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Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Shalomdee(f): 1:00pm On Oct 08, 2015
After last week's shootings in Oregon, USA, policicy proposals are now being made. Many presidential candidates were asked their opinion on gun rights, Ben Carson, author of Gifted Hands and current Presidential candidate also expressed his own view.Ben Carson who is now a retired neurosurgeon defended gun rights as a safeguard against government tyranny and said that mass shootings are a psychological health issue. In a Facebook post, he wrote about how, as a physician, he has had to treat several gunshot victims, commenting: "I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away." he said.

He also added, "I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say: 'Hey, guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can't get us all."
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Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by OVI75(m): 1:14pm On Oct 08, 2015
like seriosly? I am with him on these one,cos jst one pull on the trigger wil send you straight to the world of uncertainty.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by PRYCE(m): 1:18pm On Oct 08, 2015
Lol!
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 1:36pm On Oct 08, 2015
Too sad this man's brilliance in the operating theater did'nt extend to common sense...through out his campaign, it has been one idiotic comment to the other.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 1:41pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
Too sad this man's brilliance in the operating theater did'nt extend to common sense...through out his campaign, it has been one idiotic comment to the other.

Aside from his muslim comment, I see nothing wrong in any of his
other opinions , maybe you have an axe to grind with him.
It is illegal(to some extent) to own guns in Nigeria, yet every
common criminal possess at least a pistol for their nefarious activity.
Of what use is giving criminals free hand to use weapons while the
law abiding citizens are denied the same right ?

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Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by pelezico: 1:41pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
Too sad this man's brilliance in the operating theater did'nt extend to common sense...through out his campaign, it has been one idiotic comment to the other.

I dont agree with your comments at all - wha idiotic comments are you talking about - this is someone who has articulated himself exceptionally well in regards to Islam he is 100% correct - in regards to homosexuality 100% correct - but then again Ben Carson and my worldview do not collide
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 1:43pm On Oct 08, 2015
pelezico:


I dont agree with your comments at all - wha idiotic comments are you talking about - this is someone who has articulated himself exceptionally well in regards to Islam he is 100% correct - in regards to homosexuality 100% correct - but then again Ben Carson and my worldview do not collide

"Obamacare is the worst thing to happen to America since slavery"- Ben carson
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 1:52pm On Oct 08, 2015
neocortex:


Aside from his muslim comment, I see nothing wrong in any of his
other stances, maybe you have an axe to grind with him.
It is illegal(to some extent) to own guns in Nigeria, yet every
common criminal possess at least a pistol for their nefarious activity.
Of what use is giving criminals free hand to use weapons while the
law abiding citizens are denied the same right ?
using our lawless country as a measure for your point is pathetic. Prostitution is illegal in nigeria but police officers provide protection at some brothels for a fee. Your argument is demolished by countries like the u.k and Australia who suffered from mass gun violence in the 1970's with their lax gun laws. But now, remind me the last time there was a mass shooting in those countries? The u.s is the only developed country that gun death rival that of third world countries. I know nothing will be done about it and it will continue killing the nation.

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Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 2:01pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
using our lawless country as a measure for your point is pathetic. Prostitution is illegal in nigeria but police officers provide protection at some brothels for a fee. Your argument is demolished by countries like the u.k and Australia who suffered from mass gun violence in the 1970's with their lax gun laws. But now, remind me the last time there was a mass shooting in those countries? The u.s is the only developed country that gun death rival that of third world countries. I know nothing will be done about it and it will continue killing the nation.

Are you aware that switzerland, czech republic and france also has a very lax gun laws ?
How come mass shooting in those countries are not rampant ?

Also , you fail to state the major cause of the high level of gun violence in US, in fact mass shootings
account for insignificant number of deaths when compared with those caused by illegal gun owners and gangs
even though they are the most reported. Chicago is a good case in point.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by pelezico: 2:18pm On Oct 08, 2015
neocortex:


Aside from his muslim comment, I see nothing wrong in any of his
other stances, maybe you have an axe to grind with him.
It is illegal(to some extent) to own guns in Nigeria, yet every
common criminal possess at least a pistol for their nefarious activity.
Of what use is giving criminals free hand to use weapons while the
law abiding citizens are denied the same right ?


People do not realise that America as a Nation has a different history then most Nations -

For instance the early settlers of America were those fleeing a tyrannical Europe bent on religious persecution. The original settlers were running from religious persecution (real persecution like being burnt to death bu fire) and intolerance

The early Americans developed a view that one has the right to bear arms for its protection - and that included protection from a Government that cedes its responsibilities and becomes lawless (becomes tyrannical)

I live in a feudal state called Great Britain whos history bears no resemblance to America so bearing arms is a no no here - its not ever iven a second thought -
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 2:23pm On Oct 08, 2015
pelezico:



People do not realise that America as a Nation has a different history then most Nations -

For instance the early settlers of America were those fleeing a tyrannical Europe bent on religious persecution. The original settlers were running from religious persecution (real persecution like being burnt to death bu fire) and intolerance

The early Americans developed a view that one has the right to bear arms for its protection - and that included protection from a Government that cedes its responsibilities and becomes lawless (becomes tyrannical)

I live in a feudal state called Great Britain whos history bears no resemblance to America so bearing arms is a no no here - its not ever iven a second thought -

I agree with all your points except the bold.
The early settlers were economic migrants who sought a better life in a new world.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by shiinihost: 2:26pm On Oct 08, 2015
He is a Republican, what else do you expect?
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by pelezico: 2:28pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
"Obamacare is the worst thing to happen to America since slavery"- Ben carson
He is completely right here - he is not comparing the atrocities of slavery to Obamacare but being a well read man of history he clearly sees where this is going - he realises that the ambitions of Government can now exercise its true face against freedoms that Obamacare can withdraw from the American citizen

He explains his position very well - if you are willing to listen that is. His concern, something Marxists well knew is that if you can control peoples health you can control the person. Marxist advocated this. Obamcare and its concessions do just that

He sees the parallels of failed states like Nazi Germany and policies they made being made by America - he also sees the societal changes that shaped Nazi Germany being paralleled by America.

Dont allow the liberal press, left or right to mess with your head - try to be more discerning
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 3:02pm On Oct 08, 2015
pelezico:

He is completely right here - he is not comparing the atrocities of slavery to Obamacare but being a well read man of history he clearly sees where this is going - he realises that the ambitions of Government can now exercise its true face against freedoms that Obamacare can withdraw from the American citizen

He explains his position very well - if you are willing to listen that is. His concern, something Marxists well knew is that if you can control peoples health you can control the person. Marxist advocated this. Obamcare and its concessions do just that

He sees the parallels of failed states like Nazi Germany and policies they made being made by America - he also sees the societal changes that shaped Nazi Germany being paralleled by America.

Dont allow the liberal press, left or right to mess with your head - try to be more discerning
spare me that rubbish! Marxist? Nazi? To use to words in your defence shows how much of a right winger you are! The affordable care act, a brainchild of the right and it's organisations like heritage is suddenly "nazi" because obama proposed it? Just look at the catastrophe other industrialised nation's like Japan, u.k, Canada,etc that has affordable healthcare for their citizens are....funny enough the u.a system obama introduced is not even close to the single payer other countries have. and less than a year after it's implementation, 90% of users are satisfied with their healthcare. Ben carson is an idiott, as a black man for using "slavery" in the same context with healthcare. What an insult to his ancestors.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2015
neocortex:


Are you aware that switzerland, czech republic and france also has a very lax gun laws ?
How come mass shooting in those countries are not rampant ?

Also , you fail to state the major cause of the high level of gun violence in US, in fact mass shootings
account for insignificant number of deaths when compared with those caused by illegal gun owners and gangs
even though they are the most reported. Chicago is a good case in point.
that is a lie! No European nation has lax gun laws that allow more than 300 million guns to be in circulation and as for Chicago which is republicans favourite talking point for gun violence, their gun laws would work better if it's neighbouring states were not such gun nuts where guns can be snuck in from at anytime.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Shalomdee(f): 3:09pm On Oct 08, 2015
I don't agree with him on this policy, why should everyone be allowed to carry a gun?
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 3:10pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
that is a lie! No European nation has lax gun laws that allow more than 300 million guns to be in circulation and as for Chicago which is republicans favourite talking point for gun violence, their gun laws would work better if it's neighbouring states were not such gun nuts where guns can be snuck in from at anytime.

Don't be close minded,
A little research will do you a great favor.
It is not about number i.e 300 million, it is
about percentage and freedom to own guns.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 3:12pm On Oct 08, 2015
neocortex:


Don't be close minded,
A little research will do you a great favor.
It is not about number i.e 300 million, it is
about percentage and freedom to own guns.
that made no sense , try again.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 3:17pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
that made no sense , try again.

You are free to tactically withdraw when cornered. grin
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by Symphony007: 3:27pm On Oct 08, 2015
neocortex:


You are free to tactically withdraw when cornered. grin
i'm here buddy! Ready to continue our discourse whenever you start making sense.
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by neocortex: 3:35pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
i'm here buddy! Ready to continue our discourse whenever you start making sense.

That is exactly my point, the moment strongly opinionated person like you
get cornered , you resort to empty statements.

Did you say continue ?
You must be joking.

We will continue when you disprove any of the fact I posted up there,
that is if you understand them
Re: Ben Carson- Presidential Aspirant Defends Gun Rights by pelezico: 6:10pm On Oct 08, 2015
Symphony007:
spare me that rubbish! Marxist? Nazi? To use to words in your defence shows how much of a right winger you are! The affordable care act, a brainchild of the right and it's organisations like heritage is suddenly "nazi" because obama proposed it? Just look at the catastrophe other industrialised nation's like Japan, u.k, Canada,etc that has affordable healthcare for their citizens are....funny enough the u.a system obama introduced is not even close to the single payer other countries have. and less than a year after it's implementation, 90% of users are satisfied with their healthcare. Ben carson is an idiott, as a black man for using "slavery" in the same context with healthcare. What an insult to his ancestors.

This has nothing to do with left or right wing - i have family in Texas who are doing rather well because they work in the oil sector yet even they were surprised at the cost of health insurance - the insurers are also saying that in 2016 they are proposing a rate hike - some people estimate between 20 and 60 %.

Subsidies for Obama care will come at a huge cost to the middle classes as the US do not have the money to pay for it. They cannot continue to print money forever - theres only so much an economy can print before meltdown.

The problem is that there ought to be a choice - allowing any Government to control health care based on by insurance is foolhardy

Ben Carson was the one of the greatest brain surgeons in this world - and you glibly called him an idiott, really. You show little respect for a man that should be an inspiration disrespecting like some house negro Uncle Tom. Sorry for using strong words here but you called for it

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