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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 11:19am On Jul 04, 2020
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I'm sorry but you are completely off, way off. I can not begin to list them biblically. In fact, I sense pride, jealously, contempt and ego in you, and an ungodly spirit that I cannot fully discern now. I'm not fully sure of that spirit now, but hopefully it gets revealed soon. And If I'm wrong, then may God have mercy, but I definitely cannot ignore my convictions about you right from very early in the thread. This is not the first time that spirit has reared its ugly head disguised as being corrective

If you want to talk biblically about why you are wrong with your wrong nitpicking of his testimony and concepts of repentance (which Charles mentioned), hardened hearts of the wicked and warfare against spirits and demons, then that's another discussion. Else, check yourself well.[may God bless u for this]
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 4:31pm On Jul 04, 2020
changedinchrist:


I'm sorry but you are completely off, way off. I can not begin to list them biblically. In fact, I sense pride, jealously, contempt and ego in you, and an ungodly spirit that I cannot fully discern now. I'm not fully sure of that spirit now, but hopefully it gets revealed soon. And If I'm wrong, then may God have mercy, but I definitely cannot ignore my convictions about you right from very early in the thread. This is not the first time that spirit has reared its ugly head disguised as being corrective

If you want to talk biblically about why you are wrong with your wrong nitpicking of his testimony and concepts of repentance (which Charles mentioned), hardened hearts of the wicked and warfare against spirits and demons, then that's another discussion. Else, check yourself well.
Yes you cannot begin to list them biblically because nowadays Christians prefer to talk without quoting bible. So let us talk without quoting bible then huh?... I am really curious to know this... apart from the Nigerian Christians (who are now imbibing Mountain of Fire ministries method) can you show me any other Christian church, minister or believer in any other country of the world that believe that we should kill witches and wizards through prayers? I hinted at this kind of believe to an Italian christian and she laughed at me to scorn. Definitely none of the churches in Europe that I know of teaches such things... I want to get at the root of this matter anyway you can prove this doctrine outside the Nigerian contexts.

But I must now warn you about the Holy Spirit. The first person the Holy Spirit killed in the new testament was a BELIEVER named Ananias and his wife called Saphira. Ananias was neither a wizard nor was Saphira a witch, but they were staunch believers when killed. Yet when the Holy Spirit encountered a sorcerer named Bar-Jesus who bewitched the people with his false teachings, He did not kill this magician through Paul but punished him a little by making him go blind temporally for opposing the GOODNEWS. In the second instance, when Peter encountered Simon the magician, who used money to ask for the power of the Holy Spirit.... Peter did not curse this man but warned him that his money WOULD perish so his life too if he refuses to repent... then Simon asked for forgiveness.

A child of God should talk about how they evangelize those who are oppressed by sorcery. God can deliver witches and wizards only when you preach and pray with them, not when you pray against them. But be warned that the Holy Spirit prefer to kill the children of God who are stiffnecked... see what God did to the Israelites who disobeyed Him. When a child of God who should know the truth, that they are God's representatives on earth to deliver and save souls, take God's mercy for granted and begin to teach what is not even scriptural in line with the plan for REDEMPTION... God will First warn them... but know that when a believer fall into the hand of the Almighty, they will not fair better a witch. Because God considers rebellion itself like the sin of witchcraft and stubbornnes like idolatry.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 4:58pm On Jul 04, 2020
And one more thing... I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOU FOUL SPIRIT COME OUT OF THIS MAN. shocked

You wrote "In fact, I sense pride, jealously, contempt and ego in you, and an ungodly spirit that I cannot fully discern now"... thank God you cannot fully discern the person in ME because we are not operating on the same page, because I know my Bible very well. HE WHO IS IN ME IS GREATER THAN HE WHO IS IN THE WORLD. When you direct such nonsense talks toward a believe who knows the Bible, you will not get the intended result of brainwashing... the spirit of error that you allowed to manifest will be fixed right. I am covered by the BLOOD OF JESUS and will not believe a LIE.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 5:13pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
Yes you cannot begin to list them biblically because nowadays Christians prefer to talk without quoting bible. So let us talk without quoting bible then huh?... I am really curious to know this... apart from the Nigerian Christians (who are now imbibing Mountain of Fire ministries method) can you show me any other Christian church, minister or believer in any other country of the world that believe that we should kill witches and wizards through prayers? I hinted at this kind of believe to an Italian christian and she laughed at me to scorn. Definitely none of the churches in Europe that I know teaches such a thing... I want to get at the root of this matter anyway you can prove this doctrine based on what Jesus and his followers did.

But I must now warn you about the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. The first person the Holy Spirit killed in the new testament was a BELIEVER named Ananias and his wife called Saphira. Ananias was neither a wizard nor was Saphira a witch, but they were staunch believers when He killed them. But when the Holy Spirit encountered a (wizard/witch) sorcerer named Bar-Jesus who bewitched the people with his false teachings, He did not kill this magician through Paul but punished him a little by making him go blind temporally for opposing the GOODNEWS. In the second instance, when Peter encountered Simon the magician, who used money to ask for the power of the Holy Spirit.... Peter did not curse this man but warned him that his money WOULD perish so his life too if he refuses to repent... then Simon asked for forgiveness.

I child of God should talk about how they evangelize those who are oppressed by sorcery. God can deliver witches and wizards only when you preach and pray with them, not when you pray against them. But be warned that the Holy Spirit prefer to kill the children of God who are stiffnecked... see what God did to the Israelites who disobeyed Him. But when a child of God who should now the truth take God's mercy for granted and cling to a lie... there is hardly any forgiveness if you fall into the hand of the Almighty.

You're unteachable because you have pride in your heart. I'm happy everyone now sees through you.

God gives grace for repentance to everyone, and He punishes the wicked for their sins(2Kings 9:32-37, Luke 12:20, 1Peter 3:12).
Grace has an expiry date if you don't know. That is why God's people always profess the sufficiency of God's grace in their lives (2Corinthians 12:9)

If you don't know all these by now, then I guess you don't know God at all.
He is a God of good and evil (Isaiah 45:7). He gives, and He takes away. He kills. And He gives life.
You can read about the enemies of Israel, who were God's enemies. See how God killed them. He is still doing it till today.

He did it with the flood, saving Noah and His family. He did it at Sodom & Gomorrah and other cities, He still does it, and He will do it again at the very END. Heaven and Earth will be wiped away, but His Word will stand. He is a Judge over all, and the wicked won't stand His judgment, they will be in hell (Psalm 1).

My testimony is 100% GOD. If you doubt it, go back to your Bible and become teachable. You can learn from your Bible.
I don't jubilate when my enemies perish. But like David, I thank the Lord for saving me from them and using me to bring judgment on them.

The spirit of error in you will not thrive. Stop wasting our time or else the Holy Ghost will take care of you.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 5:56pm On Jul 04, 2020
THE STORY OF PEPPER THE DOG

Once upon a time, I know a lady which we all know was a wicked witch. She had a dog whom she deliberately named Pepper, a female dog, and till date I have never met a dog as evil and merciless as this one. Almost everybody in the neighbourhood were bitten by Pepper. My house was very far away but countless of times, I was chased and attacked by Pepper.

Thank God this dog lived long and saw many Christmas. When we were grown up and the dog was quite old, we remembered all the wickedness that it has committed against us, and how the wicked owner would end up chasing us away when we complain. On that fateful day, we ganged up together and came with whips and sticks. We had one mission... not to kill this evil dog, but to avenge all the miseries it has caused us. When we called the dog's name PEPPER, it came as usual rushing at us, not even minding that we were a large crowd of boys. We beat the hell out of this dog... but at the end we were highly impressed by the dog's stamina and resilience. The dog would come barking any time you call the name, no matter how much you whip her.

Anyway that was the defining moment for us and Pepper... coupled with oldage, may be, and the lessons learned that day, the dog never become that aggressive again, limiting its aggression only to when you step into her compound, even at that you may likely not be bitten once the owner, the woman, or her children, calls the dog's name.

Unfortunately, with the history of this wicked family, I ended up becoming born again with the second born son of this woman called Joseph. The persecution started against me and Joseph. She would attack me physically if she sees me step into her compound to check on Joseph. Joseph have to vacate his mum's compound and live for months with a brother called Jacob... that was how bad the persecution was. This woman was a witch that we all know about... So what did we do?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 6:41pm On Jul 04, 2020
@dencotex u haven't experienced witchcraft wickedness that have made even Christians to contemplate suicide. I used to have your type of mindset but not anymore. My once comfortable Christian parents now feed from hand to mouth. My immediate elder brother who used to be the breadwinner of my family just died few months ago. Some of us have masters degree but yet no job. God revealed a witch to me years back and ordered I cut her down. I turned around to pray for repentance for her. The damage she has done since then, i will regret it for the rest of my life. So oga if u don't know pls keep quiet and learn

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by johnnywayne(m): 6:50pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:
@dencotex u haven't experienced witchcraft wickedness that have made even Christians to contemplate suicide. I used to have your type of mindset but not anymore. My once comfortable Christian parents now feed from hand to mouth. My immediate elder brother who used to be the breadwinner of my family just died few months ago. Some of us have masters degree but yet no job. God revealed a witch to me years back and ordered I cut her down. I turned around to pray for repentance for her. The damage she has done since then, i will regret it for the rest of my life. So oga if u don't know pls keep quiet and learn


Well said ,these witches are very wicked ,I remember how they used to come into our house to torment us ,there was hardship ,nothing was working until we started praying before my sister graduated and money came for my siblings to go to school ,and funny enough these witches go to church .You can't ruin someone's life and go Scott free.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Finallydead: 7:20pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext it is very wrong and unspiritual of you to come to a thread started by a servant of God whom you know is on a mission for God and has flock here and try to "rebuke" him openly. It is very unscriptural if you want to talk about scripture(1Tim5:1) and can be no better than seen as from a wrong spirit.
Are you trying to get the angels working here angry? Be warned!
If there is even a reason to rebuke him and you were mature about it you could have sent him a mail. And if he doesn't agree with your view, why not just face what the Lord has given you.
There are diversities of operations but one God(1Cor 12:6) and we are members of one body with different functions.
I can assure you there is a place for God's wrath against sons of perdition if the Spirit of God orchestrates it which is what happened in CharlyG1 case. As a matter of fact that's exactly why the Lord sent him there. Go and read what Paul did with barjesus.
There is, of course, always the place for maintaining love towards enemies but we must follow the Spirit's leading and always be on His side
Please do not break spiritual protocol and go search your heart of what inspires you to this act because we will all give account at the Lord's tribunal.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 7:57pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
And one more thing... I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOU FOUL SPIRIT COME OUT OF THIS MAN. shocked

You wrote "In fact, I sense pride, jealously, contempt and ego in you, and an ungodly spirit that I cannot fully discern now"... thank God you cannot fully discern the person in ME because we are not operating on the same page, because I know my Bible very well. HE WHO IS IN ME IS GREATER THAN HE WHO IS IN THE WORLD. When you direct such nonsense talks toward a believe who knows the Bible, you will not get the intended result of brainwashing... the spirit of error that you allowed to manifest will be fixed right. I am covered by the BLOOD OF JESUS and will not believe a LIE.

I'm happy most people see through the ungodly false spirit in you. Better come out with your true intentions on this thread. I wanted to start a biblical refutation even after Charles' own, but after reading Charles point, I thought for a bit and just gave up adding more cos of Matthew 7:6 - the fact that learning or understanding on this thread is not your true intention (a trait of the victims Jesus refers to in that verse). When you are ready, send a PM else you need serious intervention from the holyspirit.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 8:07pm On Jul 04, 2020
Finallydead:
Dencotext it is very wrong and unspiritual of you to come to a thread started by a servant of God whom you know is on a mission for God and has flock here and try to "rebuke" him openly. It is very unscriptural if you want to talk about scripture(1Tim5:1) and can be no better than seen as from a wrong spirit.
Are you trying to get the angels working here angry? Be warned!
If there is even a reason to rebuke him and you were mature about it you could have sent him a mail. And if he doesn't agree with your view, why not just face what the Lord has given you.
There are diversities of operations but one God(1Cor 12:6) and we are members of one body with different functions.
I can assure you there is a place for God's wrath against sons of perdition if the Spirit of God orchestrates it which is what happened in CharlyG1 case. As a matter of fact that's exactly why the Lord sent him there. Go and read what Paul did with barjesus.
There is, of course, always the place for maintaining love towards enemies but we must follow the Spirit's leading and always be on His side
Please do not break spiritual protocol and go search your heart of what inspires you to this act because we will all give account at the Lord's tribunal.

Brother, this is not the first time. Go way back earlier on the thread. The former ones were even worse and suspect in nature. I knew since then that this guy has something disguised underneath, but I wasn't sure. Then he repeated it again, also worse than this and I was a little more convinced but still not sure, then again and I became convinced. Then finally this one to seal it off. I didn't bother to immediately bring up biblical points because I know that's not his true intentions. Of Course, christians have different point of views on non-damning matters , definitely and we still get along despite that.

MFM is different from Christ Embassy, which is different from Winners, which are all different from Orthodox churches around the world, which is also different from Reformed Churches around the world. But what unites them is the fundamental belief in the tenets of Christianity which can never be compromised else they go against Jehovah.

The differences in non-damning doctrines like music(drums/percussion), deliverance, warfare, cessationism(tongues/healing/prophecy) etc , is definitely expected and can be discussed but you see this Decontext guy, he has a different motive. TRUST ME. I have observed him. Pride and Jealousy mostly. So I know not to even discuss on normal fronts of disagreements that many Christians have together and instead attack his foul spirit head on.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 8:23pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:
@dencotex u haven't experienced witchcraft wickedness that have made even Christians to contemplate suicide. I used to have your type of mindset but not anymore. My once comfortable Christian parents now feed from hand to mouth. My immediate elder brother who used to be the breadwinner of my family just died few months ago. Some of us have masters degree but yet no job. God revealed a witch to me years back and ordered I cut her down. I turned around to pray for repentance for her. The damage she has done since then, i will regret it for the rest of my life. So oga if u don't know pls keep quiet and learn

And the point is that the warfare is against the principalities, forces, powers, and demons of which those people cling to, not humans. So if you war against those demons which we are commanded to do, For many of them that are unrepentant, they become so attached that they refuse to part with the demons and principalities no matter what and they perish with them or undergo God's judgement with them. Also God's sovereignty is also there as he commands his children sometimes to do certain things in certain contexts according to his word as he's omniscient and knows all, the end from the beginning.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 8:33pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:
@dencotex u haven't experienced witchcraft wickedness that have made even Christians to contemplate suicide. I used to have your type of mindset but not anymore. My once comfortable Christian parents now feed from hand to mouth. My immediate elder brother who used to be the breadwinner of my family just died few months ago. Some of us have masters degree but yet no job. God revealed a witch to me years back and ordered I cut her down. I turned around to pray for repentance for her. The damage she has done since then, i will regret it for the rest of my life. So oga if u don't know pls keep quiet and learn
Hello mister, when did you give your life to Christ? I gave mine in the '80's when it was several times more difficult to be born again. I am also an ordained minister of GOD. I decided to keep talking with you because I noticed that this time around you did not say any negative words against me... that is the attitude of a child of God you exhibit now.

Now put joke aside, and argument aside, I needed answers to the question I asked you. Assuming you are in my shoes, you gave your life to Christ in the 80's and even throughout the 90's you did not hear any church anywhere else in the world teach about killing witches with prayers.

What will you do when the 3rd generations of Christians in year 2000's upward began to prayer that witches should die? The only question I wanted to ask you is whether, apart from naija Christians, any christians in any other country do uphold this kind of teaching? Please with all sincerity do not dodge my question this time. It is good to know how similar and disimilar we are based on our generational upbringing in the Lord. If you want I can tell you how we handle witches then and even now, with a lot of examples.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 8:46pm On Jul 04, 2020
changedinchrist:


And the point is that the warfare is against the principalities, forces, powers, and demons of which those people cling to, not humans. So if you war against those demons which we are commanded to do, For many of them that are unrepentant, they become so attached that they refuse to part with the demons and principalities no matter what and they perish with them or undergo God's judgement with them. Also God's sovereignty is also there as he commands his children sometimes to do certain things in certain contexts according to his word as he's omniscient and knows all, the end from the beginning.
This is the first time I noticed you were addressing me, and you started with all kinds of accusations. I will simply click on your name and ignore you forever... you will post here but I will not get to see them... if you do not correct the way you address others. I feel that it would be wrong to say any negative words against you because I barely know you. Do not take offense at my words but respect my wishes too.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 9:23pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:
@dencotex u haven't experienced witchcraft wickedness that have made even Christians to contemplate suicide. I used to have your type of mindset but not anymore. My once comfortable Christian parents now feed from hand to mouth. My immediate elder brother who used to be the breadwinner of my family just died few months ago. Some of us have masters degree but yet no job. God revealed a witch to me years back and ordered I cut her down. I turned around to pray for repentance for her. The damage she has done since then, i will regret it for the rest of my life. So oga if u don't know pls keep quiet and learn
I like your spirit and I see that you have an acute mind to learn. But however knowledge is in parts... when you do not know why you are suffering and why your family is in fixed, it would seem plausible to blame generational curse or witchcraft.

I want to be a bit academical in the way I will answer you.

1) It is quiet possible that witchcraft or generational altar could be the cause, no doubt.
2) Unlike other ministers who would quickly speak the words you want to hear, I am realistic about my knowledge in Christ... that is humility. I do not know all... but I can teach you how I fixed my own problem.
3) Thank God you have master degree... telling me about spiritual attacks and suicide attempt, is like saying my Christianity have been smooth riding so I can afford to be arrogant. I only felt that you did not know anything about me at all... so let me download some info that may encourage you.
4) You have master degree now... I gave my life in the 80's so you can only guess how old I am now! By the time I gave my life, my father technically stopped sponsoring my education... I should have gotten my first degree at UNN by 1994 in Electronic Engineering. My family members persecuted me... even my friends, especially Joseph wicked mother and others. When I had enough, I dropped out of UNN after 300 level due to ulcer and malnutrition. I suffered and had to depend on gospel music to survive for many years to come. So that was the end of education for me... I had no degree.
5) I packed my load and left home to stay in Abuja. I slept in an uncompleted church by a swamp for 3 months....mosquitoes bite me terribly. After the persecutions of being a born again in the 80's... we were the minority then and highly a cause for ridicule...carrying a bible is deemed as fanatism... so what I suffered in Abuja from 1996 upward was light for me because Jesus have made me a soldier, who have been beaten, kicked, disowned, mocked and laughed at, and toughened. My family members considered me an outlier outcast.... nothing good can come out of me. While my other brother who was not born again was the toast... who went ahead to graduate.
6) As for suicide? May be I was too born again to admit I contemplated that... but fastword to 2009 in Abuja I had not made any progress in life at all.... and my thirties was nothing to write home about. I was in debt, harrased by police because poverty did not make me return a laptop I repaired ontime. And that was then I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG MY CHRISTIANITY.
7) On 24 and 25th of December 2009, I was fasting not because I wanted to... but because I had no food at home to eat. That was the day I went the extra mile to get the answers I wanted about my afflictions.... I had to know what was wrong.

-------TO BE CONTINUED------

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 9:44pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
This is the first time I noticed you were addressing me, and you started with all kinds of accusations. I will simply click on your name and ignore you forever... you will post here but I will not get to see them... if you do not correct the way you address others. I feel that it would be wrong to say any negative words against you because I barely know you. Do not take offense at my words but respect my wishes too.

LOL, you would get to see my posts on this thread unless maybe you delete your account or don't visit this thread anymore. NL has no block feature else a lot of people would have been blocked by CharlyG1 the OP a long time ago.

See, I see through you and have monitored you much earlier. @OTHERS, pls go pages back to see what I'm saying. Only if you truly humble yourself before I believe you have true christ-like intentions. You have pride, jealousy and envy and you know that.

Dencotext:
I like your spirit and I see that you have an acute mind to learn. But however knowledge is in parts... when you do not know why you are suffering and why your family is in fixed, it would seem plausible to blame generational curse or witchcraft.

I want to be a bit academical in the way I will answer you.

1) It is quiet possible that witchcraft or generational altar could be the cause, no doubt.
2) Unlike other ministers who would quickly speak the words you want to hear, I am realistic about my knowledge in Christ... that is humility. I do not know all... but I can teach you how I fixed my own problem.
3) Thank God you have master degree... telling me about spiritual attacks and suicide attempt, is like saying my Christianity have been smooth riding so I can afford to be arrogant. I only felt that you did not know anything about me at all... so let me download some info that may encourage you.
4) You have master degree now... I gave my life in the 80's so you can only guess how old I am now! By the time I gave my life, my father technically stopped sponsoring my education... I should have gotten my first degree at UNN by 1994 in Electronic Engineering. My family members persecuted me... even my friends, especially Joseph wicked mother and others. When I had enough, I dropped out of UNN after 300 level. I suffered and had to depend on gospel music to survive for many years. So that was the end of education for me... no degree.
5) I packed my load and left home to stay in Abuja. I slept in an uncompleted church by a swamp for 3 months....mosquitoes bite me terribly. After the persecutions of being a born again in the 80's... we were the minority then and highly a cause for ridicule...carrying a bible is deemed as fanatism. So what I began to suffer in Abuja from 1996 upward was light to me because Jesus have made me a soldier, who have been beaten, kicked, disowned, mocked and laughed at. My family members considered me an outlier outcast.... nothing good can come out of me. While my other brother who was not born again was the toast... who went ahead to graduate.
6) As for suicide? May be I was to born again to admit I contemplated that... but fastword to 2009 in Abuja I had not made any progress in life at all.... and my thirties was nothing to write home about. I was in debt, harrased by police because poverty did not make me return the laptop I repaired ontime. And that was then I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG WITH EITHER GOD OR ME AND MY CHRISTIANITY.
7) On 24 and 25th of December 2009, I was fasting not because I wanted to... but because I had no food at home to eat. That was the day I went the extra mile with God to find all the answers I wanted about my afflictions....

-------TO BE CONTINUED------

During one of your previous suspect posts way back, you did this same thing, narrating past, and then later telling somone about you being ordained and could rebuke the person as a minister for not taking your words seriously (someone you only know online and not physically and not under you in any setting).

Guys, be careful with all his words. Unless he becomes humble, tread carefully.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 9:47pm On Jul 04, 2020
@dencotex, I don't believe its about when one comes to Christ. Witchcraft wasn't as widespread and deadly in the 80s as it is now. God opened my eyes last year to see a large number of children chased to the front of my gate by my neighbor at night. She used to be the one hosting the children party in the estate before her husband died. Am sure that was y they went there first. Now these children will start to develop that wicked spirit from that age and become terror themselves. See the woman I talked about previously that God warned me about is not a casual Christian but a woman that God used to heal mad people and even raise half dead people. She is well known. A wife of a minister. So I kept questioning my vision when God showed her to me. She is very close to me hence my hesitation. And then last year so unexpectedly she came for my life. She and her cohort and God made me see her,her daughter and their cohorts and delivered me that night. I am also happy that thier judgement has started. I have suffered enough.Yes, 'the jealous look and pretence smile' like Charly said is their signature and they also lie a lot. Now to answer your questions, I have been in the ministry and I can tell u that some souls are beyond redemption. Right in the church wickedness is prevailing. I have seen a woman who is a marine witch hold a whole church to ransome. U come in wealthy and leave wretched. Every new pastor that comes is bought over by food and gift and he becomes spiritually blind. I have seen so many prayerful and spiritually active children in bondage and poverty owing to witchcraft bondage. I still pray for so many that they won't fall owing to operation of this powers. So many true Christians have lose their life in this battle. See, this world is deep and wickedness abound. God wants His children to be free. With this your gentleman attitude u have, u might not cope in the ministry back here o. The atmosphere has changed and the battle is fierce my brother. The devil is not smiling so neither should we o. I have experienced attacks that make me marvel at the height of wickedness we are facing. So let the violent take it by force

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 10:08pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
I like your spirit and I see that you have an acute mind to learn. But however knowledge is in parts... when you do not know why you are suffering and why your family is in fixed, it would seem plausible to blame generational curse or witchcraft.

I want to be a bit academical in the way I will answer you.

1) It is quiet possible that witchcraft or generational altar could be the cause, no doubt.
2) Unlike other ministers who would quickly speak the words you want to hear, I am realistic about my knowledge in Christ... that is humility. I do not know all... but I can teach you how I fixed my own problem.
3) Thank God you have master degree... telling me about spiritual attacks and suicide attempt, is like saying my Christianity have been smooth riding so I can afford to be arrogant. I only felt that you did not know anything about me at all... so let me download some info that may encourage you.
4) You have master degree now... I gave my life in the 80's so you can only guess how old I am now! By the time I gave my life, my father technically stopped sponsoring my education... I should have gotten my first degree at UNN by 1994 in Electronic Engineering. My family members persecuted me... even my friends, especially Joseph wicked mother and others. When I had enough, I dropped out of UNN after 300 level due to ulcer and malnutrition. I suffered and had to depend on gospel music to survive for many years to come. So that was the end of education for me... I had no degree.
5) I packed my load and left home to stay in Abuja. I slept in an uncompleted church by a swamp for 3 months....mosquitoes bite me terribly. After the persecutions of being a born again in the 80's... we were the minority then and highly a cause for ridicule...carrying a bible is deemed as fanatism... so what I suffered in Abuja from 1996 upward was light for me because Jesus have made me a soldier, who have been beaten, kicked, disowned, mocked and laughed at, and toughened. My family members considered me an outlier outcast.... nothing good can come out of me. While my other brother who was not born again was the toast... who went ahead to graduate.
6) As for suicide? May be I was too born again to admit I contemplated that... but fastword to 2009 in Abuja I had not made any progress in life at all.... and my thirties was nothing to write home about. I was in debt, harrased by police because poverty did not make me return a laptop I repaired ontime. And that was then I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG MY CHRISTIANITY.
7) On 24 and 25th of December 2009, I was fasting not because I wanted to... but because I had no food at home to eat. That was the day I went the extra mile to get the answers I wanted about my afflictions.... I had to know what was wrong.

-------TO BE CONTINUED------

I never contemplated suicide but I have met Christian with much worse situation who do. u see things differently now because u r in a different place and the storm has passed. This storm is unending for some. What do u think would have happened to a Christian in that place who is not as spiritually vibrant and matured like Charlyg1? Speak with wisdom sir

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 10:09pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:
@dencotex, I don't believe its about when one comes to Christ. Witchcraft wasn't as widespread and deadly in the 80s as it is now. God opened my eyes last year to see a large number of children chased to the front of my gate by my neighbor at night. She used to be the one hosting the children party in the estate before her husband died. Am sure that was y they went there first. Now these children will start to develop that wicked spirit from that age and become terror themselves. See the woman I talked about previously that God warned me about is not a casual Christian but a woman that God used to heal mad people and even raise half dead people. She is well known. A wife of a minister. So I kept questioning my vision when God showed her to me. She is very close to me hence my hesitation. And then last year so unexpectedly she came for my life. She and her cohort and God made me see her,her daughter and their cohorts and delivered me that night. I am also happy that thier judgement has started. I have suffered enough.Yes, 'the jealous look and pretence smile' like Charly said is their signature and they also lie a lot. Now to answer your questions, I have been in the ministry and I can tell u that some souls are beyond redemption. Right in the church wickedness is prevailing. I have seen a woman who is a marine witch hold a whole church to ransome. U come in wealthy and leave wretched. Every new pastor that comes is bought over by food and gift and he becomes spiritually blind. I have seen so many prayerful and spiritually active children in bondage and poverty owing to witchcraft bondage. I still pray for so many that they won't fall owing to operation of this powers. So many true Christians have lose their life in this battle. See, this world is deep and wickedness abound. God wants His children to be free. With this your gentleman attitude u have, u might not cope in the ministry back here o. The atmosphere has changed and the battle is fierce my brother. The devil is not smiling so neither should we o. I have experienced attacks that make me marvel at the height of wickedness we are facing. So let the violent take it by force

@divine2020 Another point to consider regarding deliverance/warfare and instructions in certain contexts regarding wicked unrepentant people, anti-christ people or rebels to buttress your story-
Paul directed the church to give some people up to satan for the destruction of their flesh so they would learn as they were harmful to the church and wouldn't change. Infact he did it twice one for the church and one for wicked people against God's work, the latter to bring infirmities, discipline or even death

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by JourneytoEL(f): 10:22pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
Yes you cannot begin to list them biblically because nowadays Christians prefer to talk without quoting bible. So let us talk without quoting bible then huh?... I am really curious to know this... apart from the Nigerian Christians (who are now imbibing Mountain of Fire ministries method) can you show me any other Christian church, minister or believer in any other country of the world that believe that we should kill witches and wizards through prayers? I hinted at this kind of believe to an Italian christian and she laughed at me to scorn. Definitely none of the churches in Europe that I know of teaches such things... I want to get at the root of this matter anyway you can prove this doctrine outside the Nigerian contexts.

But I must now warn you about the Holy Spirit. The first person the Holy Spirit killed in the new testament was a BELIEVER named Ananias and his wife called Saphira. Ananias was neither a wizard nor was Saphira a witch, but they were staunch believers when killed. Yet when the Holy Spirit encountered a sorcerer named Bar-Jesus who bewitched the people with his false teachings, He did not kill this magician through Paul but punished him a little by making him go blind temporally for opposing the GOODNEWS. In the second instance, when Peter encountered Simon the magician, who used money to ask for the power of the Holy Spirit.... Peter did not curse this man but warned him that his money WOULD perish so his life too if he refuses to repent... then Simon asked for forgiveness.

A child of God should talk about how they evangelize those who are oppressed by sorcery. God can deliver witches and wizards only when you preach and pray with them, not when you pray against them. But be warned that the Holy Spirit prefer to kill the children of God who are stiffnecked... see what God did to the Israelites who disobeyed Him. When a child of God who should know the truth, that they are God's representatives on earth to deliver and save souls, take God's mercy for granted and begin to teach what is not even scriptural in line with the plan for REDEMPTION... God will First warn them... but know that when a believer fall into the hand of the Almighty, they will not fair better a witch. Because God considers rebellion itself like the sin of witchcraft and stubbornnes like idolatry.
I hope you know Europeans burnt nothing less than 1000 witches alive!! Those generations experienced what real witchcraft was. That it snows in New York does not mean it snows it lagos. If you have experienced witchcraft in Nigeria, you will understand the meaning of spiritual wickedness in high places(Eph 6:12) and suffer not a witch to live. The present crop of Europeans think of witches as palm readers and tarot cards. Personally, I used to think the same way till 2yrs ago when I witnessed how wicked they can be. Most will rather die than repent. Besides, who made the present Europeans the standard for Christianity. We are talking of people who have gay priests and support abortion

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 10:36pm On Jul 04, 2020
-----THE CONTINUATION-----

And after the desperate soul searching for answers in December 2009, what did I find out? What I found out was the cause of my suffering made me so ashamed... God has only one main answer... DISOBEDIENCE shocked

Although I arrived in Abuja in 1996, I only want to mention two part of my life for analysis, starting from the year 2000 to 2010 in Abuja when God made me know that disobedience does not pay. And 2010 to 2020 now that I am in Europe.

1) From the year 2000 to 2010, I had no job to write home about, had to retake WAEC again to be candid, was a university dropout, had zero savings, and eventually had to live in my younger sister's house.

Now the solution to my problem.... Let me be very very very clear... God did not explicitly said I should tithe, but when I reviewed my life and why I was suffering... just as you are doing now and blaming it on witches... realized after reviewing my giving habits that I have done everything spiritually correctly but was not fateful in that aspect. This I blamed myself for doubting God and believing in what others say about giving. I saw that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob tithed when the law of Moses was not in existence. WHen IT CAME INTO BEING, God said something special about two types of giving... that when a man tithe and also when a man gives firstfruit, Moses and AARON should consider this as HOLY (and separate) UNTO GOD. I now got what God have been pointing out in the book of Malachi ALL ALONG, and I now understood God's behaviour that day. That you can give to man or church anything you want, but if you want to honor God, not man or church, again this is your wish nobody is forcing you, it cannot be less than your tithing or firstfruits. The choice is yours... the book of Malachi then taught us how kind God was... on December 25, 2009... not minding how skeptical many have become about tithing.... I had to believe bible... Malachi says we rob God in tithing and offerings... however if we can only bring all our tithings.... Malachi did not even mention offerings anymore.... that would be the minimum conditions to merit all the windows of heaven being opened for you. And I have proved this but soon discover that when the windows of heaven is opened, a tither does never lack to give offerings also if they so wished because they would be so blessed.

Let me mention ABEL and CAIN. These were the first two men ever who wanted to present gifts to God... I mean to honor God directly, not church or man. God accepted Abel gifts which were the firstfruits of his lambs and the choice portion and rejected that of Cain. The only reason being that God would give us His firstborn Jesus in future... so anyone that give the firstfruit or first born of anything have a HOLY resonance with God. Cain gifts were not firstfruit (QUALITATIVE GIVING) or equivalent to a tithe (QUANTITATIVE GIVING) so God rejected it.... the bible never stated that Cain did anything wrong till he begain to plan to kill Abel.

2) From 2010 to 2020.... all I simply did was to honor God with my tithing... you have to choose whether to present your tithing in cash or, material or crops or whatever .... to me, I evaluate my wealth base on the money I am earning......God loves a cheerful giver... I am not making a doctrine about this.... may be just imagining that you purpose in your heart to give nothing less than your 10% to God, just as the government of Italy taxes everybody forcefully to give up to 23% or more... God does not force anybody.

So to cut a long story short, I am completely ashamed to mention what God have done from 2010 to 2020 in my life when nothing happened much between 2000 to 2010. It has nothing to do with my effort or intelligence or skills or know how... it is so embarrassing that most time I do not struggle to get these things, although I worked hard nevertheless to earn them.... but the opportunities came on a platter of gold. I have cried severally because I felt so small before God.

To be candid I am a millionaire right now if I convert my monetary worth in Europe and all the benefits I have now. And lastly, I got into a university in 2010, got a bachelor degree in 2015... in fact two degrees... and now will soon graduate for my master degree, being left with only my final thesis.

Before I get misunderstood again, I am not saying that witches may not attack people. I am saying here that.... or let me say I believe that since I began to obey God by tithing faithfully, may be He kept these witches at bay, I won't be so spiritual about that... but I noticed that I have become super lucky... Italians would call it... BUONA FORTUNA.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by JourneytoEL(f): 10:50pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
Hello mister, when did you give your life to Christ? I gave mine in the '80's when it was several times more difficult to be born again. I am also an ordained minister of GOD. I decided to keep talking with you because I noticed that this time around you did not say any negative words against me... that is the attitude of a child of God you exhibit now.

Now put joke aside, and argument aside, I needed answers to the question I asked you. Assuming you are in my shoes, you gave your life to Christ in the 80's and even throughout the 90's you did not hear any church anywhere else in the world teach about killing witches with prayers.

What will you do when the 3rd generations of Christians in year 2000's upward began to prayer that witches should die? The only question I wanted to ask you is whether, apart from naija Christians, any christians in any other country do uphold this kind of teaching? Please with all sincerity do not dodge my question this time. It is good to know how similar and disimilar we are based on our generational upbringing in the Lord. If you want I can tell you how we handle witches then and even now, with a lot of examples.
many american preachers like Kenneth Hagin, Frank Hammond, John Lake were God's generals in spiritual warfare. Infact they were the ones who taught Nigerian pioneers like Idahosa how to combat spiritual battles.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 10:54pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:

I never contemplated suicide but I have met Christian with much worse situation who do. u see things differently now because u r in a different place and the storm has passed. This storm is unending for some. What do u think would have happened to a Christian in that place who is not as spiritually vibrant and matured like Charlyg1? Speak with wisdom sir
Thank you for saying I am in a different place and the storm have passed. But wait ooo... when I began to obey God faithfully I had a dream... and God spoke to me the name of the city... and now that I am here have the storm have passed? shocked kiss

At least I am way better than when I was in Nigeria. People respect accomplishments... if I send just only 200 euro to your account now you will smile... but for the first time make I yab some people... one chap here dey busy dey say I dey arrogant, have pride, and so on... I think he will have a very long long way to go in life. Man if you stay humble and God places me in a position and you need help I could assist you.... but please stay humble and be polite if you want to go far in life and travel.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 11:09pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
-----THE CONTINUATION-----

And after the desperate soul searching for answers in December 2009, what did I find out? What I found out was the cause of my suffering made me so ashamed... God has only one main answer... DISOBEDIENCE shocked

Although I arrived in Abuja in 1996, I only want to mention two part of my life for analysis, starting from the year 2000 to 2010 in Abuja when God made me know that disobedience does not pay. And 2010 to 2020 now that I am in Europe.

1) From the year 2000 to 2010, I had no job to write home about, had to retake WAEC again to be candid, was a university dropout, had zero savings, and eventually had to live in my younger sister's house.

Now the solution to my problem.... Let me be very very very clear... God did not explicitly said I should tithe, but when I reviewed my life and why I was suffering... just as you are doing now and blaming it on witches... realized after reviewing my giving habits that I have done everything spiritually correctly but was not fateful in that aspect. This I blamed myself for doubting God and believing in what others say about giving. I saw that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob tithed when the law of Moses was not in existence. WHen IT CAME INTO BEING, God said something special about two types of giving... that when a man tithe and also when a man gives firstfruit, Moses and AARON should consider this as HOLY (and separate) UNTO GOD. I now got what God have been pointing out in the book of Malachi ALL ALONG, and I now understood God's behaviour that day. That you can give to man or church anything you want, but if you want to honor God, not man or church, again this is your wish nobody is forcing you, it cannot be less than your tithing or firstfruits. The choice is yours... the book of Malachi then taught us how kind God was... on December 25, 2009... not minding how skeptical many have become about tithing.... I had to believe bible... Malachi says we rob God in tithing and offerings... however if we can only bring all our tithings.... Malachi did not even mention offerings anymore.... that would be the minimum conditions to merit all the windows of heaven being opened for you. And I have proved this but soon discover that when the windows of heaven is opened, a tither does never lack to give offerings also if they so wished because they would be so blessed.

Let me mention ABEL and CAIN. These were the first two men ever who wanted to present gifts to God... I mean to honor God directly, not church or man. God accepted Abel gifts which were the firstfruits of his lambs and the choice portion and rejected that of Cain. The only reason being that God would give us His born Jesus in future... so anyone that give the firstfruit or first born of anything have a HOLY resonance with God. Cain gifts were not firstfruit (QUALITATIVE GIVING) or equivalent to a tithe (QUANTITATIVE GIVING) so God rejected it.... the bible never stated that Cain did anything wrong till he begain to plan to kill Abel.

2) From 2010 to 2020.... all I simply did was to honor God with my tithing... you have to choose whether to present your tithing in cash or, material or crops or whatever .... to me, I evaluate my wealth base on the money I am earning......God loves a cheerful giver... I am not making a doctrine about this.... may be just imagining that you purpose in your heart to give nothing less than your 10% to God, just as the government of Italy taxes everybody forcefully to give up to 23% or more... God does not force anybody.

So to cut a long story short, I am completely ashamed to mention what God have done from 2010 to 2020 in my life when nothing happened much between 2000 to 2010. It has nothing to do with my effort or intelligence or skills or know how... it is so embarrassing that most time I do not struggle to get these things, although I worked hard nevertheless to earn them.... but the opportunities came on a platter of gold. I have cried severally because I felt so small before God.

To be candid I am a millionaire right now if I convert my monetary worth in Europe and all the benefits I have now. And lastly, I got became to a university in 2010, got a bachelor degree in 2015... in fact two degrees... and now will soon graduate for my master degree, being left with only my final thesis.

Before I get misunderstood again, I am not saying that witches may not attack people. I am saying here that.... or let me say I believe that since I began to obey God tithing faithfully, may be He kept them at bay, I wontt be spiritual about that... but I noticed that I have become super lucky... Italians would call it... BUONA FORTUNA.
Wowwwww that's great. No wonder u sound pompous. 'I blame it on witchcraft' because u never read where I said God told me. You are Even teaching me to tithe. I feel like am talking to a baby Christian. In these last days God is raising up Elijah-like sons for decimation of the kingdom of darkness. Who like Elijah would not hesitate to exact vengeance with thier swords for Gods children and free the captives of the mighty. They will not have misplaced priority of saving the enemies head like King Saul. 2 Thessalonian 1:6 "seeing that it is righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble u. " God bless u @Charlyg1. Your ministry here has been of great help to me.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 11:13pm On Jul 04, 2020
Dencotext:
Thank you for saying I am in a different place and the storm have passed. But wait ooo... when I began to obey God faithfully I had a dream... and God spoke to me the name of the city... and now that I am here have the storm have passed? shocked kiss

At least I am way better than when I was in Nigeria. People respect accomplishments... if I send just only 200 euro to your account now you will smile... but for the first time make I yab some people... one chap here dey busy dey say I dey arrogant, have pride, and so on... I think he will have a very long long way to go in life. Man if you stay humble and God places me in a position and you need help I could assist you.... but please stay humble and be polite if you want to go far in life and travel.

LOL, see where you are running to. So typical. You don't know anyone online personally or their achievements so your talk is worthless. But to not let this thread digress carnally, I would not even go there. I just hope you have known that people can see through you and learn to be humble to discuss doctrinal disagreements rightly and scripturally. That's my issue with Christians who pretend. I never take issue with doctrinal arguments when done rightly to divide the word of truth biblically. i have monitored you. Your history is there for everyone to see. So discuss your doctrinal positions rightly and with humility and innocence

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by changedinchrist: 11:14pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:

Wowwwww that's great. No wonder u sound pompous. 'I blame it on witchcraft' because u never read where I said God told me. You are Even teaching me to tithe. I feel like am talking to a baby Christian. In these last days God is raising up Elijah-like sons for decimation of the kingdom of darkness. Who like Elijah would not hesitate to exact vengeance with thier swords for Gods children and free the captives of the mighty. They will not have misplaced priority of saving the enemies head like King Saul. 2 Thessalonian 1:6 "seeing that it is righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble u. " God bless u @Charlyg1. Your ministry here has been of great help to me.
God bless you

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 11:26pm On Jul 04, 2020
changedinchrist:


@divine2020 Another point to consider regarding deliverance/warfare and instructions in certain contexts regarding wicked unrepentant people, anti-christ people or rebels to buttress your story-
Paul directed the church to give some people up to satan for the destruction of their flesh so they would learn as they were harmful to the church and wouldn't change. Infact he did it twice one for the church and one for wicked people against God's work, the latter to bring infirmities, discipline or even death
Very true.Many Ministers of God are no longer concerned with Gods will but their own pocket in these days. They hardly hear God speak to them

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:32pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:

Wowwwww that's great. No wonder u sound pompous. 'I blame it on witchcraft' because u never read where I said God told me. You are Even teaching me to tithe. I feel like am talking to a baby Christian. In these last days God is raising up Elijah-like sons for decimation of the kingdom of darkness. Who like Elijah would not hesitate to exact vengeance with thier swords for Gods children and free the captives of the mighty. They will not have misplaced priority of saving the enemies head like King Saul. 2 Thessalonian 1:6 "seeing that it is righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble u. " God bless u @Charlyg1. Your ministry here has been of great help to me.
Isaiah 54:17 No weapon formed against me shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against me in judgment I condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me,” Says the LORD.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:52pm On Jul 04, 2020
dvine2020:

Very true.Many Ministers of God are no longer concerned with Gods will but their own pocket in these days. They hardly hear God speak to them

Common guy, your pranky scheme disgust me. Do not let me expose you. If you keep up trying to use trolls to intimidate me, this is my 3rd degree in computer science, I will respond appropriately and flood this forum with trolls and you wont like it. Because I am honest does not mean I am foolish. I will take my leave now... but mind you I have unlimited internet here. I have warned you what I intend to do if you continue at this....
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 12:13am On Jul 05, 2020
@dvine2020, changedinchrist, finallydead, JourneytoEL..
Nice reponses. Very true.

The Lord hates witchcraft with a passion. He warned the Israelites about it severly.

And yes, there are those who are lost because they are unrepentant and have hardened their hearts towards God, and they'll rather die than repent.

I know of a person(Ms A) who I started deliverance for. I knew her through another friend (Ms B) that also needed deliverance. But this person (Ms A) I started deliverance played along and acted like she had repented of witchcraft. She (Ms A) pretended so as not to blow her cover, so that her friend (Ms B) wouldn't know she had been doing the witchcraft consciously because her assignment was to stick close to Ms B and continue to tie her down. So she grudgingly accepted to undergo deliverance. How smart.


She was so spiritual and anytime deliverance began, demons would speak through her saying all manner of things. The demons would tell me of their rights to stay in her. Though the Holy Spirit still moved and many were casted out, something didn't sit right.

After so many events and revelations. The Lord later exposed the "chief spirit" in her, and let me know what it was actually planning. The plan was to draw me in through "deliverance prayers" and attack me spiritually, emotionally and otherwise.
The demon working in this lady was a spirit that had serpents in its head, and it would throw the serpents at me as soon as I began to bind/cast it.

I never knew that this girl had a conscious agreement/covenant with this spirit, and had not really repented from her witchcraft. Though all the traits of pride, quick anger, bitterness, jealousy were all there. But because of God's love in my heart to see her through the deliverance, I ignored all that. But God was teaching me.

In the revelation, only when a false prophet/prophetess came would the spirit remain calm and do nothing. It wouldn't go, but pretend it had left.

This was the main revelation I received from the Lord about this person. And the Holy Spirit had instructed me to let her go.

It was the intention of her to come and control me and lure me into darkness, and kill me spiritually. But I thank the Lord.

This is a case of a wicked person. There are others who would repent genuinely and some who would not.

Witchcraft of today, now transforms to whatever form it's victim desires. If the victim is a man or woman of God, the witch/wizard will come to the person as a Christian brother or sister.
If the victim loves immorality, the witch/wizard comes in a sexual and seductive way. Etc.


Witchcraft has ascended to another level now. It is very subtle that no one would know except through discernment or God exposing the witch or wizard through dreams and revelations.

Witches and Wizards now feel comfortable in many churches where there is no fire. They preach, they are in the choir, they are among the church leaders, they are everywhere. These people even prophesy and see visions. That's how deep this thing is. They deceive lots of people.

The spirit behind witchcraft in the church is the "Jezebel Spirit". A serpent spirit used by Satan to capture God's people. The spirit is behind fashion trends, homosexuality, fornication etc.

The spirit hates the things of God and hates authority.

I don't hate witches and wizards, but I hate their witchcraft like the Lord does. God won't show you a revelation exposing a witch or wizard in your life for you to come and show the witch "love". He showed you that revelation to pray against that person's witchcraft so that your life can move forward.

Anyone who counters this is either a witch/wizard or simply ignorant.

I thank God for those who are willing to learn here. May God open your eyes to the things of the Spirit even more. Amen

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by sholay2011(m): 12:21am On Jul 05, 2020
Dencotext:


Common guy, your pranky scheme disgust me. Do not let me expose you. If you keep up trying to use trolls to intimidate me, this is my 3rd degree in computer science, I will respond appropriately and flood this forum with trolls and you wont like it. Because I am honest does not mean I am foolish. I will take my leave now... but mind you I have unlimited internet here. I have warned you what I intend to do if you continue at this....
shocked sad
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by dvine2020: 12:24am On Jul 05, 2020
CharlyG1:
@dvine2020, changedinchrist, finallydead, JourneytoEL..
Nice reponses. Very true.

The Lord hates witchcraft with a passion. He warned the Israelites about it severly.

And yes, there are those who are lost because they are unrepentant and have hardened their hearts towards God, and they'll rather die than repent.

I know of a person(Ms A) who I started deliverance for. I knew her through another friend (Ms B) that also needed deliverance. But this person (Ms A) I started deliverance played along and acted like she had repented of witchcraft. She (Ms A) pretended so as not to blow her cover, so that her friend (Ms B) wouldn't know she had been doing the witchcraft consciously because her assignment was to stick close to Ms B and continue to tie her down. So she grudgingly accepted to undergo deliverance. How smart.


She was so spiritual and anytime deliverance began, demons would speak through her saying all manner of things. The demons would tell me of their rights to stay in her. Though the Holy Spirit still moved and many were casted out, something didn't sit right.

After so many events and revelations. The Lord later exposed the "chief spirit" in her, and let me know what it was actually planning. The plan was to draw me in through "deliverance prayers" and attack me spiritually, emotionally and otherwise.
The demon working in this lady was a spirit that had serpents in its head, and it would throw the serpents at me as soon as I began to bind/cast it.

I never knew that this girl had a conscious agreement/covenant with this spirit, and had not really repented from her witchcraft. Though all the traits of pride, quick anger, bitterness, jealousy were all there. But because of God's love in my heart to see her through the deliverance, I ignored all that. But God was teaching me.

In the revelation, only when a false prophet/prophetess came would the spirit remain calm and do nothing. It wouldn't go, but pretend it had left.

This was the main revelation I received from the Lord about this person. And the Holy Spirit had instructed me to let her go.

It was the intention of her to come and control me and lure me into darkness, and kill me spiritually. But I thank the Lord.

This is a case of a wicked person. There are others who would repent genuinely and some who would not.

Witchcraft of today, now transforms to whatever form it's victim desires. If the victim is a man or woman of God, the witch/wizard will come to the person as a Christian brother or sister.
If the victim loves immorality, the witch/wizard comes in a sexual and seductive way. Etc.


Witchcraft has ascended to another level now. It is very subtle that no one would know except through discernment or God exposing the witch or wizard through dreams and revelations.

Witches and Wizards now feel comfortable in many churches where there is no fire. They preach, they are in the choir, they are among the church leaders, they are everywhere. These people even prophesy and see visions. That's how deep this thing is. They deceive lots of people.

The spirit behind witchcraft in the church is the "Jezebel Spirit". A serpent spirit used by Satan to capture God's people. The spirit is behind fashion trends, homosexuality, fornication etc.

The spirit hates the things of God and hates authority.

I don't hate witches and wizards, but I hate their witchcraft like the Lord does. God won't show you a revelation exposing a witch or wizard in your life for you to come and show the witch "love". He showed you that revelation to pray against that person's witchcraft so that your life can move forward.

Anyone who counters this is either a witch/wizard or simply ignorant.

I thank God for those who are willing to learn here. May God open your eyes to the things of the Spirit even more. Amen

very true sir

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 12:28am On Jul 05, 2020
I'm not surprised with all the drama going on.

That testimony must have angered Satan and his demonic hosts, no doubt.

The same night I shared the testimony, I had a vision of this same "Former Landlord", where one of the children was angry and trying to get at me. I still defeated her in the dream. Praise God.

The gates of hell will not prevail over the church, no matter what.

* Anyone that genuinely seeks for deliverance from God will surely find Him.

* Anyone that battles God's people will surely lose.

Glory to God.

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