Krystalzkris:
last time i checked,i didnt complain to you...

Timileyin008:
Last time I checked this is a public forum..

Krystalzkris:
lol.. That is not a ticket to bury yourself in the matter..

johnydon22:


I doubt the solar wind hypothesis. . . We are much closer to the Sun than Mars and so i think Solar winds should have much effect on the earth than Mars...

So If solar wind had such effects on Mars, Why is earth still hoarding an enormous amount of liquid water..

(tho waters on Mars must have been far more older than what we have on earth..)



Alongside Mars having an ancient ocean before, it is also thought mars had a much thick atmosphere like earth..

What ever murdered those Thick atmosphere took the water with it.

My best guess is a Planetary Collision, Mars might have been a bit bigger than it is now, a collision with another planetary body e.g Asteroid Can really dismantle Mars' rich atmosphere remember Asteroids react like nuclear bomb on impact.

So i think It was a collision which evaporated the Waters in the process, peeled off most of Mars' atmosphere until we are left with what we have now..

Debris from that collision must have contributed to the debris in the asteroid belt..

Take a look at the picture of Mars i put up there, You noticed the huge scar on the planets surface?..

Might be remnants from the impact.. ...

ben1daEbiri:
Don't you think it has something to do with density and gravity,since liquid water is denser than ice,thereby making it the only possible way to retain them because most of the bodies might not just have enough gravity to hold them in a liquid,if you ask me,I would say some or most of these bodies which have ice water must have had liquid water earlier or liquid water later at the right temperatures!

johnydon22:
Very nice point boss, at the same time distance from the sun is another important factor.

Most of these planetary bodies still retain liquid water beneath the icy surface due to tidal heat....

ben1daEbiri:
That's why i think sometime later [a few years or more]we would see liquid water from half or more of these bodies you mentioned...I love your work,please DON'T stop!...jeez,i just discovered i wasn't following you,I'll do that ASAP!!!

johnydon22:
CALLISTO

Here we are yet again another of the great Galilean moons, my favourite Callisto.

The moon is relatively large and has a very interesting look when picture and heavily cratered.

Callisto has a decent amount of rocks and ice and a sub surface ocean beneath of liquid water.

Quite a boring moon if you ask me, shows no form of activities like volcanic activities or tectonic movements..

Named after one of my favourite Mythical character the Callisto a nymph in hellinistic mythology... Have a huge crush on her

But who wouldn't love having this baby on our night sky as another of our moon we probably would have if jupiter was not such a greedy bastard.. hoarding all the moons to himself

I.e: Galilean moons are four main moons of Jupiter discovered in the 1600s by the esteemed Galileo Galilei using his Galilean telescope. . . Can show you how to make a Galilean telescope at home and enjoy observing the night sky...

Mailthaddeus:



Show me pls

Teempakguy:

The solar wind is actually very dangerous. and also, in space, distance doesn't matter. without atmospheric friction to reduce speed over time, things do not slow down at all. the solar wind will continue to move at the same speed . . . forever.
earth still has a lot of water because of our magnetosphere. which deflects the solar wind. like a force field.. another of those cool things.


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Mars does not have a strong magnetosphere. because of this, the solar wind is in direct contact with it. no deflection. i think the reason mars doesn't have this magnetosphere is because of that collision you mentioned. it must have jumbled up the core very badly and must have destroyed it. a planet needs to have an intact core in order to have a functioning magnetosphere.

I don't think the collision is solely responsible for the stripping of mars' liquid water because, earth has also been involved in such a collision. which gave rise to the moon. and yet, we still have water. i think the worst the collision could have done was to
1. convert a lot of the water into gaseous form, instead of liquid,
2. destroy mars' magnetosphere,

the result would be an eventual stripping of water vapour and oxygen over the millennia. transforming the planet into what we now see.

here is a picture (artistic representation) of what is going on.




Another depressing fact. in the last 200 years, the earth's own magnetosphere has decreased by 15%. so . . . get ready, the earth is going to be loosing some weight in the next 5000 years.

Teempakguy:

The solar wind is actually very dangerous. and also, in space, distance doesn't matter. without atmospheric friction to reduce speed over time, things do not slow down at all. the solar wind will continue to move at the same speed . . . forever.
earth still has a lot of water because of our magnetosphere. which deflects the solar wind. like a force field.. another of those cool things.


[b][i]

Mars does not have a strong magnetosphere. because of this, the solar wind is in direct contact with it. no deflection. i think the reason mars doesn't have this magnetosphere is because of that collision you mentioned. it must have jumbled up the core very badly and must have destroyed it. a planet needs to have an intact core in order to have a functioning magnetosphere.

I don't think the collision is solely responsible for the stripping of mars' liquid water because, earth has also been involved in such a collision. which gave rise to the moon. and yet, we still have water. i think the worst the collision could have done was to
1. convert a lot of the water into gaseous form, instead of liquid,
2. destroy mars' magnetosphere,

the result would be an eventual stripping of water vapour and oxygen over the millennia. transforming the planet into what we now see.

here is a picture (artistic representation) of what is going on.




Another depressing fact. in the last 200 years, the earth's own magnetosphere has decreased by 15%. so . . . get ready, the earth is going to be loosing some weight in the next 5000 years.

Jay5000:
"Our eyes and experience tell us the Earth is flat and motionless, and everything in the sky revolves around us. When we cease to believe our own eyes and experience we must prostrate ourselves at the feet of the very pseudo-scientists who blinded us, to treat them as "experts," astronomical "priests" who have special knowledge only they can access, like the Hubble telescope. By brainwashing us of something so gigantic and fundamental, it makes every other kind of lesser indoctrination a piece of cake!
Earth being the flat, fixed center of the universe, around which everything in the heavens revolves denotes a special importance and significance not only the Earth, but to us humans, the most intelligent among the intelligent designer's designs. By turning Earth into a spinning ball thrown around the Sun and shot through infinite space from a Godless Big Bang they turn humanity into a random meaningless, purposeless accident of a blind, dumb universe! It's trauma-based mind-control! They beat the divinity out of us with their mental manipulations. "
Galileo,NASA and their ilk have done a fantastic job.
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-globe-earth-lie.html

Dawdy:
All these things are speculations, assumptions conjunctions. Recently, some people have Emerged in America. They call themselves earth-flaters. They said people have been lied to by Nasa. They said earth is flat and No body has ever been to the moon, It all hoax.
The said apolo moon landing is hoax because no one can never pass through the van allen belt to the moon, it is very deadly. You can watch them on youtube.com to confirm their convincing evidences.

Teempakguy:
I have a theory that the reason why mars doesn't have much water on it's surface is because of solar winds blowing away liquid water away from the planet over the millennia. i need someone to work it out mathematically.

my evidence is er . . . well, mars only has dense gases on it's surface right now. and a lot of sand. that is weathering. how did that happen? how is it possible for the surface of a planet to be so full of sand if there wasn't a consistent weathering system? and i recently read of how mars had all the lighter gases in it's atmosphere blown away by solar wind because it's magnetic field is very weak.

it follows that as the gases were being blown away, water must have evaporated due to the decrease in temperature.. these would have then being blown away as well.

johnydon22, what do you think of this?

sukkot:
you are always talking rubbish. like wtf is the bolded ? mathematically work wetin ? drunk man teempak. orijin master

johnydon22:


I doubt the solar wind hypothesis. . . We are much closer to the Sun than Mars and so i think Solar winds should have much effect on the earth than Mars...

So If solar wind had such effects on Mars, Why is earth still hoarding an enormous amount of liquid water..

(tho waters on Mars must have been far more older than what we have on earth..)


Alongside Mars having an ancient ocean before, it is also thought mars had a much thick atmosphere like earth..

What ever murdered those Thick atmosphere took the water with it.

My best guess is a Planetary Collision, Mars might have been a bit bigger than it is now, a collision with another planetary body e.g Asteroid Can really dismantle Mars' rich atmosphere remember Asteroids react like nuclear bomb on impact.

So i think It was a collision which evaporated the Waters in the process, peeled off most of Mars' atmosphere until we are left with what we have now..

Debris from that collision must have contributed to the debris in the asteroid belt..

Take a look at the picture of Mars i put up there, You noticed the huge scar on the planets surface?..

Might be remnants from the impact.. ...

Teempakguy:

Riggghtt . . . just like you who says you don't believe in gravity. yet came to write bullshit on the gravitational waves thread about how gravity is pulling souls into some crap place. talk about blatant contradiction of conviction.

Go and sit down one place. You have no understanding of the universe you live in. The people I'm talking to know what I'm talking about.

sukkot:
you are drunk on orijin lol. earth which is much closer than mars to the sun still has water but you come up with this your yeye theory that it is solar winds. walahi talahi teempak you need to leave that ekiti weed alone

sukkot:
you do know in october 2014 there was a HUGE collision by comet siding spring C / 2013 A1 with mars. very huge collision. it fried some of NASA roving equipment on mars. point being thats a very good guess cuz mars is always getting hard collisions.

Teempakguy:
Dude, shut . . . up.
Johnydon22, whom I was talking to, raised the same argument. And I explained to him that the closeness of the earth the sun is of no consequence. as there is no friction or atmospheric resistance in space. and as such. solar winds do not slow down over time. it doesn't matter how far you are, they will get to you at the same speed.
I also explained that the reason why earth still has a lot of water is because the solar wind does not interact with the atmosphere at all. but rather the magnetosphere which shrouds the earth and is produced by the earth's molten core. as a result, eroding effects of the solar wind is greatly diminished. for _fucks sake. I even put a picture to illustrate my point. what more do you want?

Also, are you now telling me earth is closer to the sun than mars? what . . . now you believe in the solar system? or you just make up crap and adhere to beliefs as you go along to fit with your personal insecurities?

Teempakguy:
I thought you don't believe NASA? or anything they say?

or you now do? what exactly is going on here?

Also, the comet did NOT collide with mars. at all. I don t know where you get your crap from.

sukkot:
leave that ekiti weed alone brah. its the constant collisions of planets with mars that fried that planet. for some weird reason the trajectory of many comets is in the path of mars. this collision just 2014 fried it even more. the whole planet lit up in fire

sukkot:
i believe nasa on some things but they are also a propaganda outfit for the west

Teempakguy:
Selective disbelief.

honestly, you can't expect me to take you seriously when you have selective disbelief. that makes you an extremely illogical and irrational person. so you don't believe NASA's images of a round earth. but you believe it's images of a comet hitting another planet. the hell?

Teempakguy:
lit up in what? dude, what are YOU smoking?

1. mars cannot "burn" or "lit up in fire" because it's atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide and sand. both of which are literally fire extinguishers. and which are stable compounds. hence cannot react with oxygen in a stable reaction. i.e fire.

2. There is no wierd reason. in fact, earth and other planets also get hit by stuff. earth gets hit by meteorites equalling several thousand tons every single year. in fact, the moon itself is theorized to have formed from a collision.

3. that comet did not hit mars. it performed a flyby.

MrMister:
Flat Earth truthers are funny people. Why deny the wonder and the majesty that exists in the universe for the unconfirmed, baseless theory that the Earth is flat?

Please, this is a fantastic thread, and people beware of unnecessary, conspiratorial theories like the ones quoted below.

sukkot:
dude i watched the live show, i swear it was colliding atmospheres. the collision between both atmospheres ignited and lit up both atmospheres of mars and the comet. it was like an atomic bomb explosion. i watched it live. see, i have been on this celestial quest for a long time. let me see if i can find a video of someone who recorded it live

i found the video. watch mars get fried when siding spring collided with it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Bm7blbkBI

" . . . an incredible video . . . shows the atmosphere of mars exploding as the comet siding spring passes by within 87000 miles of the red planet . . .

Jay5000:

Calling people names like flat earthers or conspiracy theorists or wailing wilers does not negate fact. It is however a very clever and effective way of discouraging people from examining evidence by trying to discredit the school of thought. The approach of an educated mind to a hypothesis is to research and examine the evidence before coming to conclusions. Unfortunately, our educational system now only offers workforce training and a near zero capacity for critical thinking or research.
You were taught that the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 460 meters per second--or roughly 1,000 miles per hour, and that earth spins round the sun at 67,000km per hour and you believed it without question. How much research did you do before deciding to believe that story? My guess - none. If you didnt research that, i'm sure you didnt research this. If youre not interested in researching the evidence, that's fine. My post was actually meant to stimulate the mind to ask questions and seek truths.

One of the motivations for researching this topic was mainly because i am an educated Christian and this argument conforms with the biblical description of this earth. I hope you find some motivation to do some research on this - even if it's just to prove that flat earthers are talking trash.

. If the Earth is the center of the Universe, then the ideas of God, creation, and a purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars in billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation, and a specific purpose for Earth and human existence become highly implausible.

johnydon22:


I doubt the solar wind hypothesis. . . We are much closer to the Sun than Mars and so i think Solar winds should have much effect on the earth than Mars...

So If solar wind had such effects on Mars, Why is earth still hoarding an enormous amount of liquid water..

(tho waters on Mars must have been far more older than what we have on earth..)



Alongside Mars having an ancient ocean before, it is also thought mars had a much thick atmosphere like earth..

What ever murdered those Thick atmosphere took the water with it.

My best guess is a Planetary Collision, Mars might have been a bit bigger than it is now, a collision with another planetary body e.g Asteroid Can really dismantle Mars' rich atmosphere remember Asteroids react like nuclear bomb on impact.

So i think It was a collision which evaporated the Waters in the process, peeled off most of Mars' atmosphere until we are left with what we have now..

Debris from that collision must have contributed to the debris in the asteroid belt..

Take a look at the picture of Mars i put up there, You noticed the huge scar on the planets surface?..

Might be remnants from the impact.. ...