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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 11:36pm On Nov 12, 2015
tbaba1234:
Nnamdi's call is not to self defence.. He has repeated violent rhetoric and it was not for self defence, numerous times.

If you have Biafra now, will the Igbo elite change?? The same people in politics will not change overnight..

Every politics is local, to effect change, you look within...

Strange bedfellows are not meant to be together.
You've got freedom of association and so you're ever free to seek self-determination with any group of your choice
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 11:41pm On Nov 12, 2015
xtrorse:


Strange bedfellows are not meant to be together.
You've got freedom of association and so you're ever free to seek self-determination with any group of your choice

Yes, but freedom of association or speech has limitations. When one is calling for violence and preaching hate of others.. It is illegal in most climes.
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 11:44pm On Nov 12, 2015
tbaba1234:
Yes, but freedom of association or speech has limitations. When one is calling for violence and preaching hate of others.. It is illegal in most climes.

So, far in all these years of existence IPOB has conducted its affairs including protests peacefully.
It's the Nigerian state that has used violence to injure and kill some armless IPOB protesters.

You're not obliged to follow IPOB. Seek for your own emancipation.
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 11:53pm On Nov 12, 2015
tbaba1234:


Except you want to split up states, which are not majority Igbo... There is no way, Nigeria will allow that...

Either way, agitation can be done through peaceful means not threats of violence. We do not need more violence.

We are not calling for violence and hey, I still love and believe in Nigeria.
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 12:24am On Nov 13, 2015
EUROBOMBER:


Most likely we would take parts of the SS and even if they don't go with us, be rest assured that if the Igbos successfuly leave Nigeria the SS will follow immediately.

That aside, I think Buhari made a mistake arresting Kanu and keeping him in detention without trial.

You support Biafra?

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by ARIZONA123(m): 12:43am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:

You support Biafra?
. What of you sistam?
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 7:10am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


You support Biafra?

I do not my dear but why I do all these analysis is in case Nigeria eventually breaks up.

I still believe Igbos have a bright future in Nigeria.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 7:11am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


Yes, but freedom of association or speech has limitations. When one is calling for violence and preaching hate of others.. It is illegal in most climes.

What of the Oba's hate speech calling for an entire tribe to be drowned?
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 7:23am On Nov 13, 2015
EUROBOMBER:

What of the Oba's hate speech calling for an entire tribe to be drowned?

Oba was wrong just like anyone that engages in it... Nnamdi Kanu does it all the time...
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 8:01am On Nov 13, 2015
EUROBOMBER:


I do not my dear but why I do all these analysis is in case Nigeria eventually breaks up.

I still believe Igbos have a bright future in Nigeria.

Cool.
I'm somewhere in between.

The IPOB ideology as espoused by their leader may be crude but it sends a signal that will force every right thinking person to sit up and revaluate the nation without sentiments.

[size=1pt]HandsomeGod, 2015[/size]
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 8:13am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


Oba was wrong just like anyone that engages in it... Nnamdi Kanu does it all the time...

I do not support Kanu's crude Ideology, and this post isn't intended to hold brief for him.

However, I think you're being a tad hypocritical...(that's okay btw...hypocrisy runs in everyone)

1. Nnamdi has a platform to always air his views to which millions subscribe.

Oba Akiolu on the other hand isn't privvy to such platform...
Else, you can be sure we'd hear more of such crude and indisciplined comments from him.

2. In the eyes of the larger society, Kanu is a common man....
Oba isn't. Certain utterances are forbidden.

That said, if you'll oblige me, I wish to see a comment from you that condemns in strong terms, the genocidal comments Oba made against Igbos resident in Lagos.

Thanks and Good Morning.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 8:29am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


I do not support Kanu's crude Ideology, and this post isn't intended to hold brief for him.

However, I think you're being a tad hypocritical...(that's okay btw...hypocrisy runs in everyone)

1. Nnamdi has a platform to always air his views to which millions subscribe.

Oba Akiolu on the other hand isn't privvy to such platform...
Else, you can be sure we'd hear more of such crude and indisciplined comments from him.

2. In the eyes of the larger society, Kanu is a common man....
Oba isn't. Certain utterances are forbidden.

That said, if you'll oblige me, I wish to see a comment from you that condemns in strong terms, the genocidal comments Oba made against Igbos resident in Lagos.

Thanks and Good Morning.

Hypocritical?

By virtue of the fact that Nnamdi Kanu has the ears of people, means more responsibility. You do not have to be an oba to stoke violence

He is influential and his crime is not any better than Oba.. Any one with influence should not engage in that kind of rhetoric.. It is even worse that he uses that he has a wide medium to vomit that kind of garbage... Trust me, it is not any better

Everyone who engages in that kind of rhetoric is wrong and those with influence are worse. Whether it is Akintola in the 60s, or Nnamdi Kanu , today..

I do not have to select one to please you.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 8:37am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


Hypocritical?

By virtue of the fact that Nnamdi Kanu has the ears of people, means more responsibility. You do not have to be an oba to stoke violence

He is influential and his crime is not any better than Oba.. Any one with influence should not engage in that kind of rhetoric.. It is even worse that he uses that he has a wide medium to vomit that kind of garbage... Trust me, it is not any better

Everyone who engages in that kind of rhetoric is wrong and those with influence are worse. Whether it is Akintola in the 60s, or Nnamdi Kanu , today..

I do not have to select one to please you.

It's not about pleasing me...
It's about proving or disproving a moral burden.

In simple terms, what was your reaction to Oba Akiolu's statement when he made it. Could you please refer us to such?

There's a need to know if your decrying Nnamdi's ideology is justified.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 8:51am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


It's not about pleasing me...
It's about proving or disproving a moral burden.

In simple terms, what was your reaction to Oba Akiolu's statement when he made it. Could you please refer us to such?

There's a need to know if your decrying Nnamdi's ideology is justified.

So unless one makes a comment on nairaland on Oba Akiolu statement, he is certainly for it..

Your reasoning is skewed.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 8:54am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:
Hypocritical?

By virtue of the fact that Nnamdi Kanu has the ears of people, means more responsibility. You do not have to be an oba to stoke violence

He is influential and his crime is not any better than Oba.. Any one with influence should not engage in that kind of rhetoric.. It is even worse that he uses that he has a wide medium to vomit that kind of garbage... Trust me, it is not any better

Everyone who engages in that kind of rhetoric is wrong and those with influence are worse. Whether it is Akintola in the 60s, or Nnamdi Kanu , today..

I do not have to select one to please you.


xtrorse:

...
Can you post ANY evidence where a prominent Igbo personality insulted or maligned your father or race?

Which ethnic group have built a better bridge than the Igbos who have exhibited more 'Nigerianness' by permeating every nook and cranny of Nigeria, peacefully building and establishing business empires, and growing the economy of the locals and that of the country at large, and some of them even getting married to the locals?

In the 90s, the NADECO's unlicensed and inciting Radio Kudirat was hitting the airwaves, did any of your elites condemn it?

Before the 2015 general elections, did you condemn the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North?

Between Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani who makes lousy, provoking noise and propaganda using every available media outfit?

In the build up to the 2015 general elections certain people made careless and careless utterances thereby heating up the polity. Is any of them Igbo

The likes of FFK, Fayose, Fashola, Tinubu, Lai, El Rufai, Junaid Mohammed, Obj and Sahara Reporters who heated the polity with their utterances, is any of them Igbo?


Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?

How many of your elites dare challenge the Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris or Yorubas for their unjust ways? How many of you dare counter the numerous killings and destruction of lives and properties that have been occurring for many decades in the North unabated? 

The Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have over the century propagated despicable, hate speeches in their mosques and still execute the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods in the North and Middle-belt. And they now have the presidency while the backstabbing Yorubas vice-presidency! Such a misnomer can only happen in the jungle! 

A number of Yorubas even go to the extent of carrying wicked lies about how Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have been peace-loving and accommodative; that it's the Igbos that always provoke their hosts in the North warranting the pogrom and other heinous crimes against the Igbos.
Yet in the same North and the Middle-belt the Christian minorities and other Southerners are maltreated, relegated to the background and even killed.

You say that Igbos are arrogant, and that they don't respect their hosts while you subtly proclaim that the Hausa-Fulanis are peace-loving and accommodative. You don’t like Igbos but you still fought and killed them to be in this fraudulent union where your likes are favoured by the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity. 
And your people even had the effrontery to castigate Igbos for seeking a self-determination! 

Many of you hold the view that Igbos should be grateful for being allowed to live in their part of the country, in the same 'One Nigeria'! You say Igbos disrespect and denigrate their host when Igbos choose to exercise their franchise right. And you don't seem to see anything wrong in Oba Akiolu's threat to drown Igbos in the Lagos lagoon if they fail to vote for his anointed candidate! The same threat was backed by many Yorubas including Dr Ariyo in the US who even called for genocide.

IGBOS HATE NOBODY EXCEPT YOU ARE A SWORN ENEMY TO TRUTH, JUSTICE AND EQUITY.
At the 2015 presidential election Igbos only exercised their franchise right just like other tribes.

If Igbos are the promoters of hate in Nigeria, can anyone tell us any instance where Igbos go about causing mayhem, killing and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?

It's only mischievous bigots in the society that turn blind eye to the evil and injustice, and permit the atrocities to flourish in the land because they gain from the lopsided arrangement in the polity. 

GENESIS OF HATRED IN NIGERIA


1* “We do not want our Southern neighbours to interfere in our development. We have never associated ourselves with the activities of these
people. We do not know them, we do not
recognize them, and we share no responsibility in their actions. We shall demand our rights when the time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this
stage, the Northern people would continue their uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa Balewa (1947)

2* “We the people of the North will continue our stated intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957)

3* "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future
- Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12,  1960

Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly uttered the aforementioned statement in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and many bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people.

4*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM

5*...barely six months after independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello was able to say with confidence in the Daily Times of May 3, 1961, the following:
I’m set and fully armed, to conquer the Action Group, AG, in the same ruthless manner as my grandfather conquered Alkalawa, a town in Sokoto province, during the last century.

6*...sometime in 2010, when upon the demise of President Umaru Y'Ardua, indications emerged that his erstwhile deputy, President Goodluck Jonathan, may contest the 2011 presidential election, a prominent chieftain of this same ACF, Lawal Kaita, who was a former Governor of old Kaduna State, threatened that the North would make Nigeria ungovernable, should Jonathan or anyone from the South win the 2011 presidential election, claiming that such would amount to denying the North it's birthright of ruling Nigeria.

7* It is in the same North barbaric statements like this were uttered in 2011:  ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. And what was the outcome - carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election?

8* That true to that threat, upon the victory of Jonathan from the 2011 presidential election, massive violence was unleashed from the North by a group which called itself Boko Haram and which repeatedly took responsibility for unending mayhem which began with the killing of Youth Corp members who worked ad-hoc for INEC in that election.

9* As the barbaric killings and destructions reigned, especially with the attack by Boko Haram on the UN Building and Force Headquarters in Abuja, the Lower Niger Congress publicly posited that the nexus between the aforementioned threat by ACF's, Lawal Kaita and the Boko Haram's bloody campaigns summarily destroyed any prospects for keeping the Nigeria Union.

10* "It was, therefore, no surprise that in October 2013, following the bold announcement by President Jonathan, presenting the sudden prospect of revisiting the master-servant constitutional arrangements of Nigeria infuriated the warmongering born-to-rule Caliphate whose cause was championed by the same ACF, and who, supported by their allies from the renegade wing of the Yoruba Southwest,  launched a vicious, frontal attack on the initiative, teaming on the floor of the Conference into a majority, and driving the Conference into its first major decision, i.e. NOT TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF NIGERIA'S UNITY. The rest of the Conference was a jamboree that provided a luxurious platform for the North/SW Alliance, parading itself as a new political party named APC, to fine-tune their violent March to the do-or-die 2015 general elections."

11* Oba of Lagos Threat on Igbos Over 2015 Governorship 
http://expressng.com/2015/04/video-oba-rilwan-akiolu-threatening-igbos-in-lagos/
Oba Rilwane Akiolu of Lagos to Igbos - Vote APC or Perish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87u255UM6Ro
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 8:56am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


So unless one makes a comment on nairaland on Oba Akiolu statement, he is certainly for it..

Your reasoning is skewed.

Your reasoning might be the skewed one here.

Did I write anywhere that it had to be a post on NL?
It could be a conversation, an FB post, a twitter update....
Anything to show that you raised your voice against such malignant and cancerous statement from the Oba.

Xtorse just posted a list of grave and incitive statements against the Igbos....
I'm sure you saw them or heard them when they all trended....
What was your reaction?

There's a burden of proof here.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 9:01am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


Your reasoning might be the skewed one here.

Did I write anywhere that it had to be a post on NL?
It could be a conversation, an FB post, a twitter update....
Anything to show that you raised your voice against such malignant and cancerous statement from the Oba.

So, I should paste my Facebook or twitter profile to please you... It is skewed logic...

I have made my position known and i do not have to prove anything to you or anyone...

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 9:04am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


So, I should paste my Facebook or twitter profile to please you... It is skewed logic...

I have made my position known and i do not have to prove anything to you or anyone...

That's why I called it a wish...a request.

For all we know, your stance is at best hypocritical.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 9:07am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


That's why I called it a wish...a request.

For all we know, your stance is at best hypocritical.

Make your profile public showing where you have condemned the language of Nnamdi and i will do same... deal? Unless you only condemn when it is against your tribe. It is a wish... a request

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 9:08am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:
Make your profile public showing where you have condemned the language of Nnamdi and i will do same... deal? Unless you only condemn when it is against your tribe. It is a wish... a request

So, far in all these years of existence IPOB has conducted its affairs including protests peacefully. 
It's the Nigerian state that has used violence to injure and kill some armless IPOB protesters.

Can you provide such credible evidence where NK threatened to kill your people for no just cause?

As per my previous post on genesis of inflammatory remarks, can you show such credible evidences where you and your people rose in unison to condemn the dastardly acts, especially by your masters, going on for many decades now?
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 9:12am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


Make your profile public showing where you have condemned the language of Nnamdi and i will do same... deal? Unless you only condemn when it is against your tribe. It is a wish... a request

I will show you...
But i will have to blot out private details.
Like the person I held the convo with.

I will also show you my posts on NL where I have decried such.

On this condition, your request will be granted.
Deal?

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 9:19am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


I will show you...
But i will have to blot out private details.
Like the person I held the convo with.

I will also show you my posts on NL where I have decried such.

On this condition, your request will be granted.
Deal?

You want to give me work this early morning (3am here) to start digging into my profile...

"All ethnic nationalities are important in Lagos. Lagos remains a yoruba homeland but many tribes have contributed to the development of Lagos and hold a claim to Lagos. I am not yoruba but I was born in Lagos and had most of my education in Lagos.
Igbos are an integral part of the life and economy of Lagos and many know no other home but Lagos. Born and bred.
Lagos remains the only place that holds real potential for the unity of the Nigerian Nation. It is a real tragedy that someone who is supposed to benefit from such diversity is driving a wedge.
I am happy that I am from an ethnic minority because it seems members of the major tribes carry around such hatred and baggage for each other. When does it end?? What is the solution?"

This Is an old post from my page...

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 9:23am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:
You want to give me work this early morning (3am here) to start digging into my profile...

"All ethnic nationalities are important in Lagos. Lagos remains a yoruba homeland but many tribes have contributed to the development of Lagos and hold a claim to Lagos. I am not yoruba but I was born in Lagos and had most of my education in Lagos.
Igbos are an integral part of the life and economy of Lagos and many know no other home but Lagos. Born and bred.
Lagos remains the only place that holds real potential for the unity of the Nigerian Nation. It is a real tragedy that someone who is supposed to benefit from such diversity is driving a wedge.
I am happy that I am from an ethnic minority because it seems members of the major tribes carry around such hatred and baggage for each other. When does it end?? What is the solution?"

This Is an old post from my page...

xtrorse:
So, far in all these years of existence IPOB has conducted its affairs including protests peacefully. 
It's the Nigerian state that has used violence to injure and kill some armless IPOB protesters.

Can you provide such credible evidence where NK threatened to kill your people for no just cause?

As per my previous post on genesis of inflammatory remarks, can you show such credible evidences where you and your people rose in unison to condemn the dastardly acts, especially by your masters, going on for many decades now unabated?
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 9:41am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


You want to give me work this early morning (3am here) to start digging into my profile...

"All ethnic nationalities are important in Lagos. Lagos remains a yoruba homeland but many tribes have contributed to the development of Lagos and hold a claim to Lagos. I am not yoruba but I was born in Lagos and had most of my education in Lagos.
Igbos are an integral part of the life and economy of Lagos and many know no other home but Lagos. Born and bred.
Lagos remains the only place that holds real potential for the unity of the Nigerian Nation. It is a real tragedy that someone who is supposed to benefit from such diversity is driving a wedge.
I am happy that I am from an ethnic minority because it seems members of the major tribes carry around such hatred and baggage for each other. When does it end?? What is the solution?"

This Is an old post from my page...

This is how we do proofs.
https://www.nairaland.com/2555203/why-construction-second-niger-bridge/6#37384922

I am taking the private convo down in 2 minutes.

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by tbaba1234: 9:53am On Nov 13, 2015
MizMyColi:


This is how we do proofs.
https://www.nairaland.com/2555203/why-construction-second-niger-bridge/6#37384922

I am taking the private convo down in 2 minutes.

Your signature is contradictory because the whole IPOB movement is based on hate.. Listen to the rhetoric...

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Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by Nobody: 9:54am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:
Your signature is contradictory because the whole IPOB movement is based on hate.. Listen to the rhetoric...


xtrorse:
So, far in all these years of existence IPOB has conducted its affairs including protests peacefully. 
It's the Nigerian state that has used violence to injure and kill some armless IPOB protesters.

Can you provide such credible evidence where NK threatened to kill your people for no just cause?

As per my previous post on genesis of inflammatory remarks, can you show such credible evidences where you and your people rose in unison to condemn the dastardly acts, especially by your masters, going on for many decades now unabated?
Re: Biafra: British High Commissioner Visits Kanu In DSS Prison by MizMyColi(f): 9:58am On Nov 13, 2015
tbaba1234:


Your signature is contradictory because the whole IPOB movement is based on hate.. Listen to the rhetoric...

That is a screenshot, and I posted the link to the thread where I made the comment, so you can see for yourself.

The IPOB ideology as espoused by their leader may be crude but it sends a signal that will force every right thinking person to sit up and revaluate the nation without sentiments.

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