dalaman:
What is a God?

Gayjesus:
It will make sense to define God first OP,then people can contribute.

dalaman:
What is a God?

hahn:


*singing* to a non believer who don't believe in anything....

FOLYKAZE:


You should answer the question.

As an atheist who disbelieve in the existence of God, you should be able to tell us about what God is. You would have more knowledge about what God is before you can postulate your disbelieve in it.

That for that, we aint talking about god but impersonal god. Do you believe in the existence of impersonal god?

Give us reason why you think impersonal god does exist or not

plaetton:


Is god a title, a name or just a description of an idea ?
People who believe in god, especially of the abrahamic faiths, have a difficult time deciding which they mean.

This ambiguity serves them well ,because it allows them to be versatile and creative when promoting their beliefs.

I used to believe in an impersonal god when I was an agnostic. Then ,I believed that God existed, but was diffused throughout the universe as matter.

This is still true and much sense.

The only difference now is that I think that god is an Idea, an ideal, a notion, the embodiment of the sum of our highest ideals , fears and aspirations, with each individual believer adding his own mental salt and peppers.

Folykaze05:
@ Johnydon22

Thanks for the attempt to address the OP

An impersonal god is a force which created and set the universe on motion but doesn't interfare in the affair of things in it. This force also do not relate or interact with human in form of a person like personal gods.

FOLYKAZE:
Atheists are giving a new dimension and entire new meaning to what we generally understand as atheism. Some took disbelieve in Jehovah, hatred for Allah and disregard for Islam as atheism. Most likely, some took opposing of unjustified religion belief/doctrine as atheism.

Atheism generally is the disbelieve in the existence of God/deity. There is nothing more to add or remove here. However, some atheists are shifting ground when asked to define God/deity. Some define God in that context as Supreme being. Some define God as supernatural being while others take God in the context as personal God.

These atheists are therefore redefining atheism as disbelieve in the existence of personal God. Some redefined atheism as disbelieve in the existence of Supreme God, supernatural God or both.

Lets agree to their argument that they disbelieve in the existence of personal God, do they believe or disbelieve in the existence of impersonal Gods?

Buddhism negate supernatural attributes to their devas (God). Do atheists who disbelieve in supernatural God believe in non-supernatural God of buddhism?

Thousands of Gods are not supreme creator God. We have Gods, sacred kings (devaraja) and forces. Do atheists believe these non-supreme beings called God exist?

Do atheists believe in Impersonal Gods and forces?



Dalaman, johnydon22, ifeness, plaetton

frank317:


I disbelieve in God, weather personal or impersonal.
E.g of personal God: Yahweh. This is just human's effort to fill in gap of the unknown. To me it does not exist, its just am idea and cannot be substantiated.

Eg of impersonal God: sun as God: to me sun is sun and not God. If you chose to call sun God, that's god for you but for me, it is sun and not God.

johnydon22:


You see this definition can also be related to personal Gods because there are many who are asserted not to interact with human affairs... Any God depicted in the form of a person whether it interacts with humans or not is a personal God..

Now the Question continues Give me one example of an impersonal God you know..?

Or is this force another way of asserting

Gravity?
A singularity?
A quantum fluctuation?

Let us know the values you quantify as an impersonal God

Folykaze6:


Sun as God is not impersonal.

Thanks for the attempt to address the OP

An impersonal god is a force which created and set the universe on motion but doesn't interfare in the affair of things in it. This force also do not relate or interact with human in form of a person like personal gods.

Folykaze7:


This spambot is killing me seriously.

Examples are Tao

, Brahman

and Ein sof

johnydon22:
You are welcome to give me a link that describes this concept
Definition of the concept Brahman " they concur in the definition of brahman as eternal, conscious, irreducible, infinite, omnipresent, and the spiritual core of the universe of finiteness and change. " http://www.britannica.com/topic/brahman-Hindu-concept

This postulation as a concept asserts a general universal consciousness that is unknown..

Since it is an unknown unproven value, i do not believe such ideas until proven or it's actuality represented

Another way of asserting an infinite conscious value, refer to the above post..

I do not believe such assertions of infinite conscious value that are unsubstantiated... it remains an unproven claim

Folykaze8:


Dude pls i woll come back tomorrow with my main moniker. I pray this anti-spambot would have relief on me

johnydon22:
Alright then but i believe i have answered the Question of the thread at least from own part..

You have defined what you think Impersonal Gods are..

And the Question was "Do atheists believe in Impersonal Gods?"

As we have established the definition of that concept i have tendered my answer which is..

"No I don't"

FOLYKAZE:


You should answer the question.

As an atheist who disbelieve in the existence of God, you should be able to tell us about what God is. You would have more knowledge about what God is before you can postulate your disbelieve in it.

That for that, we aint talking about god but impersonal god. Do you believe in the existence of impersonal god?

Give us reason why you think impersonal god does exist or not

FOLYKAZE:


why would I define God?

Before you can tell us if there is no water on mars, you would have full understanding of what water is.

Same goes with atheism and God. Someone who claim God does not exist must understand what God is. Feigning ignorance about God and talking about the existence of what you dont know is ***.

I have tackled atheists to deffine what they mean by God and some told me personal Gods. So do they disbelieve in personal Gods to believe in impersonal Gods?