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Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by johnpalmer774(m): 10:01am On Nov 25, 2015 |
Stoical: You have a very Good Point but you need to understand something that we are not the same in our way of thinking , Some voted for Party while some voted for personalty for example during 2015 general Election in my Area after voting for Buahri i voted for all others APC Candidates without even know their Names that means i voted for PARTY not the Candidates , another example When Governor Fayose left PDP to contest as Senatorial candidate under LP he didn't win despite his Popularity but he came back to PDP and win the Governorship Election that means no matter how Popular you may be Party is still play some Major role , Agbaje would have won in Lagos if he came out under APC because Lagosians didn't vote for Ambode instead they voted for APC. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Alhajipaulo(m): 10:03am On Nov 25, 2015 |
And none of them know the LAW ;DAnd none of them know the LAW |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Glare247(m): 10:04am On Nov 25, 2015 |
macfarland:. May I know which part of d constitution or electoral law support ur claim,stop reasoning with emotion,u can liken ds issue to ameachi case den in pdp,d court ruled in favor of ameachi nd d court said d votes were for pdp not d candidate, |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Ahmeduana(m): 10:06am On Nov 25, 2015 |
seunmsg:IS ITLEGAL OPINION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE OR LEGAL PRECEDENCE? |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Chirokusko: 10:09am On Nov 25, 2015 |
gare:Let the PDP candidate die and he too can be replaced. And bear itn your mind, law is not common sense. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ODUBEZE: 10:11am On Nov 25, 2015 |
BabaO2:Fixed! Your problems are too much. I will not even dignify it with an answer! |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ODUBEZE: 10:16am On Nov 25, 2015 |
DTaj: |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ODUBEZE: 10:16am On Nov 25, 2015 |
DTaj:Fixed! |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Martyr601: 10:17am On Nov 25, 2015 |
I am not a political fan, let not be sentimental in presiding over key issues that will/might have a bizarre effect on our generation just because we need an instant appraisal of political dominion.. my Question is, what stopped the AGF And the INEC to organise a fresh election and allow the APC to feature their new candidate..? If the APC Believes in their new candidate,propaganda and manifestos, I see no reason taunting a fresh Election to determine the political will an choice of the masses by conducting a fresh election rather than transferring the mandate of the dead to the living in the middle of an election. Let the political franchise of th masses exercise to choose who they want to govern them an let see if they actually voted the party or the deceased candidate.. Let's not transfer an electoral blunder to our generation because of selfish and egocentric interest. Lets not make a caricature of the constitution of FRN.. A fresh free and fair election is obviously needed in Kogi state to avenge the existence of the rule of law. deen4real7902: |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by crackhouse(m): 10:18am On Nov 25, 2015 |
seunmsg:u need a brand new sense. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ShowYourCertificate: 10:18am On Nov 25, 2015 |
contigiency:True 2. Rather, section 33 of the electoral act gave political party power to substitute a nominated candidate in a case of a death of the nominated candidate or where the candidate voluntarily withdrew from the election. Which means the party can do that if the event ocured either before the election proper or the election is process just as this one. So in this case the APC nominated candidate died and the natural thing to do based on the stated electoral act is for the party to substitute him.False, especially concerning the bolded. I want both you and the AGF to check section 36(1) of the electoral act. It clearly stated that substitution of a nominated candidate is done BEFORE THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE POLL, not after. 3. That section 221 of Nigerian constitution states that in an election, vote cast by the electorates are in favour of political party and not for the candidate nominated by the party. Just like in the case of Amechi vs INEC/Omehia. And that section has not been amended even as we speak. It goes to say that all the vote casted that day was for APC and because the party is empowered by the above quoted electoral act to make substitution in the case of a death of a nominated candidate, they will simply do that. so its not INEC or the AGF view that is being applied in this case but that of the provided laws. Unless Metu is saying that those quoted sections are not in our constitution and electoral act, or that there are other sections that countered them, then the best he should do is to state whatever section/s that prohibits the action that INEC is about to take to the general public.False. Section 221 says and I quote: "No association, other than a political party, shall CANVASS FOR VOTES FOR ANY CANDIDATE AT ANY ELECTION...." The watch word is canvass for vote which also could mean campaign for vote. This doesn't mean that votes casted on the day of election is in favour of the party ONLY. The votes casted is in favour of the party and the candidates as well (both governorship candidate and his deputy). Yes, the deputy-governorship candidate is equally entitled to the votes cast just like the governorship candidate and the party as a whole. Even the Supreme Court recognises the relevance of the Deputy-Governorship candidate. That was why it ruled in favour of Boni Haruna (the deputy governor candidate) when Atiku (the governorship candidate) deserted his ticket to become Vice-President. But in all of this, one question that is very important that we need to answer is; would anyone have sugested for the cancellation of the election if the dead person were any of the candidates that scored insignificant votes since no winner has emerged?Of course, the insignificant party that lost will seek cancellation in the court if their candidate died while election was ongoing. And no party is insignificant in the eye of the law . However, I'm personally against cancellation. Faleke should have been allowed to fill in for Audu. That was why he was made a Deputy, to fill in for the main person if the main person is incapacitated. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Hakeem3(m): 10:21am On Nov 25, 2015 |
gare:Where is your own brain bro.!? Did I hear u ya or give it to PDP?? Mehn ... I tink u should always think bfore commenting ... |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Hakeem3(m): 10:26am On Nov 25, 2015 |
[quote author=Warlord3000 post=40376359]PLEASE ABEG WHAT DOES PDP REALLY WANTS TO HAPPEN COS AM SURE NO DECISION WILL MAKE THEM HAPPY EVEN IF THE DEPUTY WAS GIVEN THE MANDATE.. SO THEY ONLY WANT WADA GIVEN THE MANDATE DESPITE BEING ON THE LOSING TRAIL ABI JOKERS[/quote Don't mind PDP they av been wailing since time immemorial! |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by criminalmindz: 10:40am On Nov 25, 2015 |
Remii:SHUT UP. DIDNT YOU READ THE PART WHERE THE SAME SUPREME COURT STATED THAT THE AMAECHI SCENARIO SHOULDNT BE USED AS A PRECEDENT IN ANOTHER CASE IN THAT SAME JUGEMENT. APC IS JUST SO LAWLESS. THIS A LAWLESS GOVERNMENT AND VERY SOON IT WILL BE OVERTHROWN BY THE MILITARY |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by WOCKHARDI(m): 10:42am On Nov 25, 2015 |
seunmsg:NO. What INEC should do is to go to court and get a legal backing and pronouncements on what to do. The AGF is not a Court and can never tell INEC what to do. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Martyr601: 10:44am On Nov 25, 2015 |
I Stand out with you...I term this as having a carnal knowledge on the rule of law..A democratic rape and a political bipolar disorder ... INEC and the AGF should wake up from the delusions.. quote author=macfarland post=40377986]WAHALA DEY O! If this rape on democracy going on in Kogi and orchestrated by INEC and the Attorney General of the Federation is allowed to stand, and the citizens accept it, then we have really entered a dark era. If you don't speak out now, don't complain when it reaches your doorstep. What section of the Constitution did INEC and the AGF rely on to arrive at the conclusion that APC can present a fresh candidate for the re-run elections and credit that candidate with Audu 's votes? If una like, make una keep silent. Me I don talk my own. My conscience don free.[/quote] |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ODUBEZE: 10:48am On Nov 25, 2015 |
gfullmoon:My brother, your assertions are quite right. However, I will disagree with your view that most people vote for the party and not individual. If that is the case the individual need not do any campaign cos the party would do it for them. --- Most of these candidates go out there to convince people base on character, achievements and electoral promises! --- It is when people are convinced that they in turn want to know the party. This explain the moral standard where people frowns at crimes. Especially with candidate with questionable character. --- You will agree with me that most party would not file in a candidate with questionable character because they would loose except in a case where rigging is assured because of the CANDIDATE commitment s in the party be it financial or otherwise. --- As for those voting for the party, it's likely to be few individual paid by the party. --- However I feel that Omehia case is quite different to Audus! we are taking about death! If the law is interpreted correctly in this matter then there is need for constitution review when the case matter involves death. --- It is also worthy to note that I am not a member of any political party but have interest in the politics of this country as it affects me and other people at large. --- In conclusion, having observed the trend for a while, I am not in support of any party dominating but rather in support of opposition because it is healthy for our democracy. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 25, 2015 |
ODUBEZE: Ignorance is not an excuse in law |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 25, 2015 |
gare: I support APC but i think they should start elections afresh. INEC should nullify d elections due to circumstances not provided for in the constitution. Its a wate of money but its d best option. They should update d laws on this issue going forward but the best step dt will limit court cases IS FRESH ELECTIONS. Its d only option dt shows good faith. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ibnjarir93(m): 10:52am On Nov 25, 2015 |
gare:Brain? "Cancel election or give it to PDP"? How can PDP change its governorship candidate when Wada has not withdrawn, isn't dead or permanently incapacitated? If not for the inevitable do you think the question of substitution would have aroused? Go get your brain first. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ziccoit: 10:57am On Nov 25, 2015 |
tuniski: The Supreme Court saw that Umehia replaced Amaechi two weeks to election and still won. It then decided that Umehia wouldn't have been the one people voted but the PDP. That decision alone brought the case of party but not individual being voted for. Now, since APC in Kogi is not dead or withdraw form the election, by using Amaechi case, the party was voted last Saturday not Audu. That is how the law would see it. The precedence was set by PDP impunity and mago-mago in government. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ODUBEZE: 10:58am On Nov 25, 2015 |
agabusta:Noted! |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by tuniski: 11:05am On Nov 25, 2015 |
ziccoit:they are never the same in spirit and letter! This is an unprecedented case. The supreme court will give a new position that will be Audu's law. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ipreach: 11:10am On Nov 25, 2015 |
Metuh should not worry because tribunal will soon open afterall |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by WOCKHARDI(m): 11:11am On Nov 25, 2015 |
efilefun:Amaechi did not replace Omeha half way into the election. PDP had already won the election and since Amaechi won the primaries, the law recognised him as the party candidate hence the Supreme Court decision. The situation here is entirely different, Mr Judge. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ldpele(m): 11:12am On Nov 25, 2015 |
ziccoit:the apex court have time without numbers told Nigerians and lawyers that the case of ameachi shouldn't be cited any longer, because it was a real travesty of justice. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by HaneefahRN(f): 11:13am On Nov 25, 2015 |
PDP definitely has no case here. What's there business if the APC candidate is substituted or the deputy gov candidate upgraded to the gov? The people voted for the party not the candidate, the candidate is dead but the party is still alive. INEC shld conclude the election and declare the winner, cest finite.Although this is an unprecedented case so let's see what actions the Supreme court takes. But they should stop making noise and go to court if they think they av a case. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ldpele(m): 11:15am On Nov 25, 2015 |
I think the AGF actually showed to Nigerians how partisan he is. He could av rested this case once and for all by approaching the Supreme Court for an interpretation on this lacuna rather than give us what he thinks is right. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by adolfs01: 11:17am On Nov 25, 2015 |
Oga, what's the basis of your argument? gare: |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by ldpele(m): 11:19am On Nov 25, 2015 |
HaneefahRN:i agree with u partial, I totally disagree with the idea of PDP been mute on issues like this, we are in democracy and one expect the government to adhere strictly to the constitution, not what an AGF feels who have already proven to be partisan. |
Re: Kogi Poll: Resign Now, PDP Tells AGF, INEC Chair by arcnomec(m): 11:27am On Nov 25, 2015 |
Remii: Your assertion just proved that you are not inform about the happenings in Nigeria........Haven't you read or heard that Ameachi's and Omehin's case shouldn't be cited in any electoral matter in court or any where.....So no section of the electoral act backed this conclusion of AGF and INEC |
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