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In A Deft Move, Buhari Gives Key Portfolios To Southern Nigeria / PDP, APC Senators In A Separate Meetings Over Amaechi / House Where Lugard Signed Amalgamation Of Northern Southern Nigeria. -PICS (2) (3) (4)
|What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Nobody: 10:08pm On May 26, 2009|
Y cant Southern Nigeria become a country of its own, even if it means balkanisation of the entire region (peacefully though). When a hand-shake goes beyond the elbow, it is becoming a wrestling match.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by ElRazur: 10:12pm On May 26, 2009|
Nigeria's constitution wont allow it.
Also there are political and influential powers that will throw many obstacle to it that would make it highly improbable, if not impossible. They are making loads of money from the current state of Nigeria, and as such wont like to see anything affect their influence and income.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by SapeleGuy: 10:21pm On May 26, 2009|
2 Words, OIL & GAS. - The petroleum in the south south produces 95% of the nations revenue.
All this stuff about constitution is mere lip service. With the current agitation, revenues have already fallen by 50%.
With regionalisation and resource control, there will be no need for the split, Nigeria will need to embrace economic diversification.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by strangleyo: 10:23pm On May 26, 2009|
Oil, and the North is afraid of becoming an impoverished, land locked desertified hellhole.
For what its worth, we are smart people (Nigerians), as Nigeria continues to democratically develop, we can use the North to extract much $$$ from the Arabs.
The north will become a cash cow for us, give it 20 years.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by asha80(m): 10:32pm On May 26, 2009|
Because southern nigerians are dumb and daft.Forget are so called education.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by vigasimple(m): 10:37pm On May 26, 2009|
something occurs to me while reading this post.
IF THE OIL IS IN THE NORTH, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NORTH WOULD HAVE DONE?
I personally think they would have asked all of us to become muslim, they would impose sharia Law and tell us down south what they are willing to offer us, and we can either take or leave it, or even they don't want us to be part of Nigeria, espeially if they also have the sea.
Shame that we can't find out as it is the south that have the blessing or 'curse' (if you prefer to call it that) of having the oil and the sea.
I am sorry to say, that the Leadership being provided by the North and the Army, and their southern cronies/accomplices is pathetic and frankly disgraceful.
I will like to hear Nairaland opinions on IF SHOES WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE- AS IN OIL AND SEA IN THE NORTH WITH THEM HAVING BETTER EDUCATION!
OVER TO YOU GUYS AND GALS
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by asha80(m): 10:42pm On May 26, 2009|
That is exactly why i posted those words above your post.
Smart educated southerners indeed.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by SubMacGun(m): 10:43pm On May 26, 2009|
look at these fools talking trash as usual. Before the Oil exploration was perfected was the north not the food basket of Nigeria. Remember the groundnut pyramids.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Becomrich: 10:51pm On May 26, 2009|
it as nothing to do with constitution. Which constitution . it is not the constitution stopping it. is bakassi still part of nigeria.
When Yar Adua removed Bakassi , It was removed by a bill to the national assembly. When Obasanjo removed some part of the north it was done by a bill.
we have written a bill to the national assembly, the president , bankole and david mark to remove Yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa borgu to benin republic. see a copy of the bill.
AN ACT TO CREATE THE NIGERIA-BENIN COMMISSION AND BOUNDARY RELOCATION AND NIGERIA-BENIN PARLIAMENT.
EGBE OMO ODUDUWA
This Bill shall amend the boundary of Nigeria. And the following state of Bayelsa, Edo, Ekiti, lagos,Oyo, Ogun, Delta, Ondo, Osun, Kwara,kogi and Borgu(niger state) [Belodok states ] shall be permanently transferred to Benin Republic with supervision of the Nigeria-Benin commission. All land, air, coastal area, land, everything inside its land and air shall belong to the Republic of Benin
NIGERIA-BENIN COMMISSION ROLE AND RULES
This bill also create the Nigeria- Benin commission, which is to be headed by the president of Nigeria and President of Benin republic in rotation. A Two year duration , shall be approved by members of the Nigeria-Benin commission. The head of the Nigeria-Benin commission shall be called President General. The position of President General is reserved for only the president of Nigeria and Benin Republic. No other member of the Nigeria- Benin commission can hold the position of President General or deputy President General apart from this two.
The position of President General shall be rotated between the president of Nigeria and Benin republic. While the position of deputy President General shall be rotated between the president of Nigeria and Benin republic. With Nigeria President Umar Yar Adua starting first.
The Nigeria-Benin commission shall have 17 members. There are
The president of Nigeria.
The president of Benin republic
The president of Nigeria-Benin parliament
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament (Nigeria)
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament(Nigeria)
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament(Nigeria)
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament(Benin)
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament(Benin)
The Deputy president of Nigeria-Benin parliament(Benin)
The senate president of Nigeria Senate
The Deputy senate president of Nigeria senate
The President of the Nigeria house of representative
The deputy President of Nigeria house of representative
The senate president of Benin Senate
The Deputy senate president of Benin senate
The President of the Benin house of representative
The deputy President of Benin house of representative
All serving governor, members of the senate, house of representative, chairman of local government, all elected position shall retain their position either transferred from Nigeria to the New Republic of Benin or in Nigeria.
There would be one currency in Nigeria and Benin republic with one central bank in each country. The currency shall be knew as Nibe. From the first two letter of the name of Nigeria and Benin Republic.
Nigeria and Benin Republic would financed the Nigeria-Benin commission and Nigeria-Benin parliament base on a 70% for Nigeria and 30% Republic of Benin ratio.
And an open boundary with no immigration officers expect at the boundary with other nation apart from Nigeria and Benin Republic.
All citizen of both Nigeria and Benin shall have right of resident in both country.
Nigeria and Benin republic shall still remain separate sovereign nation
This bill is based on the willingness of Benin republic accepting the Belodok state, if in an otherwise case the Belodok states shall become sovereign nation and all refers to Benin republic in this bill shall be replaced by Belodok, including the commission and parliament.
The Nigeria-Benin commission role is an executive role , while the Nigeria-Benin parliament is a legislative role.
All non physical assets of Nigeria including money and external reserve and other should be divided and transferred with a ratio 70% for Nigeria and 30% for Benin Republic.
Nigeria and Benin Republic shall contribute military force to Ecowas, Africa union and United nation if need be.
All office, officer and position either in the military or civilian retain in the Nigeria shall be transfer over to Benin republic and shall all retain the same position expect if in conflict. All personel should not be sacked. And most retain their position or be created.
All physical military position and assets of Nigeria including money, weapon, ships, tanks and others and other should be divided and transferred with a ratio 70% for Nigeria and 30% for Benin Republic.
All military personel in Nigeria of the New Republic of Benin origin shall be transfer to the Republic of Benin and retain the same military position and rank expect if there is conflict.
All civilian personel in Nigeria service of the New Republic of Benin origin shall be transfer to the Republic of Benin and retain the same position and scale expect if there is conflict.
All physical assets outside of Nigeria should be divided and transferred with a ratio 60% for Nigeria and 40% for Benin Republic.
All physical properties, document and other in The New Republic of Benin should be transfer by Nigeria. Include Airport, stadium, universities, roads, railway, seaport, etc belonging to Nigeria but is located in the New Republic of Benin shall be transfer to the Republic of Benin.
Each countries shall monitors its territory according to international law.
All international agency should be inform of the change in boundary and the establishment of the Nigeria-Benin commission including Ecowas, Africa union, the United Nation, European Union, USA, UK, Canada, China, India, Japan, Germany France, south Africa and other countries.
Nigeria-Benin commission headquarter, activate and site shall be located not in the capital of both country but on both countries bank of the River Niger at Mokwa in Niger state and Jebba in Kwara state. While Abuja would still remain the capital of Nigeria.
Nigeria-Benin commission duty include to execute law and rule set for it by the Nigeria-Benin parliament.
NIGERIA-BENIN PARLIAMENT ROLE AND RULES.
Nigeria-Benin parliament official languages shall be in English and French
Nigeria-Benin parliament headquarter, activate and site shall be located not in the capital of both country but on both countries bank of the River Niger at Mokwa in Niger state and Jebba in Kwara state. While Abuja would remain the capital of Nigeria.
The present Nigeria and Benin republic senate and house of representative would be merge on both level to create the initial Nigeria-Benin parliament.
In future the Nigeria-Benin parliament shall be made of members 60% of Nigeria and 40% of Benin Republic members.
The Nigeria-Benin parliament shall formate law leading to the unity of both economy
Nigeria-Benin parliament shall have one President and 6 deputy President. Three each from Nigeria and Republic of Benin
Nigeria-Benin business licensing board shall be created to licence business in the Nigeria-Benin parliament area.
All business licence shall be merge.
All members of Nigeria-Benin parliament shall be eligible for election to the office of President or deputy president of Nigeria-Benin Parliament.
The President or deputy president of the Nigeria-Benin parliament cannot combine his duties with any post expect ecowas related.
The President shall reside at the seat of the Parliament.
Before every round of voting at the Nigeria-Benin Parliament, the list of candidates for the post of President or deputy president shall be submitted to the Oldest Representative in term of age who shall read it out to the Parliament.
The President shall be elected by a two-thirds of Members of Parliament at the first round of voting, by an absolute majority of voting members at the following rounds at which only two (2) candidates who obtained the highest number of votes shall be presented.
As soon as the President has been elected, the oldest Representative shall vacate the Chair as acting President of Nigeria-Benin Parliament .
Only the elected President of the Nigeria-Benin Parliament may deliver an opening address.
Election of Deputy President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament
Six (6) Deputy President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament would be elected. Three each from Nigeria and republic of Benin.
Six (6) Deputy President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament shall then be elected separately. The candidate obtaining the majority of the votes cast on the first ballot shall be declared elected.
Should the number of candidates elected be less than the number of seats to be filled, a second ballot shall be held under the same conditions to fill the remaining seats.
Should a third ballot be necessary, a relative majority shall suffice for election to the remaining seats.
New nominations may be introduced between ballots during the election of Deputy President
Deputy Presidents to Nigeria-Benin Parliament shall take precedence in the order in which they were elected and, in the event of a tie, by age,
The term of office of the President or Deputy President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament shall be one time term of two years
The term of office of the President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament shall be rotated between Nigeria and Benin Republic.
The term of office of the all members of the Nigeria-Benin Parliament shall be four years.
The Parliament may, on the basis of the report of a special committee, remove the President or Deputy President to Nigeria-Benin Parliament by a vote of two-thirds majority of the members, for serious shortcomings in the management of the affairs of the Parliament .
The special Committee may be set up at the request of a parliamentary group or at least twenty (20) Members of Parliament. The decision to set up the Committee shall be approved by a simple majority of the Members of Parliament of Parliament.
When a Representative changes parliamentary group he shall retain, for the remainder of his term of office, any seat he holds in the Nigeria-Benin Parliament.
Should a vacancy for one of these positions occur before the expiry of his term, the Representative elected shall serve only for the remaining period of his predecessor's term of office.
Should it be necessary for the President, a Deputy President or any other member of the Nigeria-Benin Parliament to be replaced, his successor shall be elected in accordance with these rules.
A newly elected Deputy President shall take the place of his predecessor in the order of precedence.
Should the President’s seat become vacant, the first Deputy President shall act as President until a new President is elected.
Duties of the President
The President shall direct all the activities of Parliament and its bodies under the conditions laid down in these Rules. He/she shall enjoy all the powers necessary to preside over the proceedings of Parliament and to ensure that they are properly conducted.
The duties of the President shall be to open, suspend and close sittings, to ensure observance of these Rules, maintain order, call upon Presidents, close debates, put matters to the vote and announce the results of votes, and to refer to Committees any communications that concern them.
The President may speak in a debate. Should he wish to take part in a debate, he shall vacate the Chair and shall not reoccupy it until the debate is over.
Parliament shall be represented in international relations, on ceremonial occasions and in administrative, legal or financial matters by the President, who may delegate these powers.
Duties of the Deputy President
Should the President be absent or unable to discharge his duties, or should he wish to take part in a debate pursuant to Rule , he shall be replaced by one of the Deputy Presidents, in order of hierarchy.
Duties of Treasurers
The Treasurers shall be responsible for administrative and financial matters directly concerning Members of Parliament, pursuant to guidelines laid down by the Nigeria-Benin Parliament.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by MaiSuya(m): 10:53pm On May 26, 2009|
WT. . . Southern Nigeria as a separate Nation? How then will they be able to blame to all their woes on Northerners? make una no try am o!
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by ElRazur: 10:54pm On May 26, 2009|
It sucks when people can't debate without some how bringing oils and what not in to it.
I remember from my social studies days and Agriculutral science, those ground nuts images. They really do look like pyramid from the Pharaoh era
In fact, here is one link:
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Kobojunkie: 10:55pm On May 26, 2009|
You dey mind them? Up till the early 80's, majority of the food in that country came from the north oo!!!
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by ElRazur: 10:57pm On May 26, 2009|
Can I ask an off-topic question please. Do anyone actually take "Becomerich" serious? I have developed a habit of skipping his post after I made a mistake of taking him serious once, what a load of baloney.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by yicob(m): 11:29pm On May 26, 2009|
Err . . . . .I once read his post, but i never read it again !
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Becomrich: 11:29pm On May 26, 2009|
Elruzar take me serious, we hope to meet one of the former president of another country next week .
see a copy of the bill sent via email to the clark of the house, senator david mark, bankole and president yar adua. we are not joking. you can see fox new and abc and other news email too.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Lamidiobi1: 11:31pm On May 26, 2009|
let south go. we r tired of ibo and yoruba criminal killing our image
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Tornadoz(m): 11:33pm On May 26, 2009|
What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation?
The small matter of civil war.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by naijaking1: 11:41pm On May 26, 2009|
19 northern governors still hold their meetings. Southern governors are not allowed to meet, even governors of the old eastern and western Nigeria are not even allowed to meet seperately.
Who said equal rights under the law
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Becomrich: 11:43pm On May 26, 2009|
A civil war is the reason why it is not possible for the south . but there are other reason. Some ethnics group in the southern niger benue of nigeria may not want to go with the igbos too. alot of southerner do not trust the igbos.
But it is possible for the Yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa to leave. because majority of northerner would approve it to make themself majority and have 70% of the oil.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by yicob(m): 11:47pm On May 26, 2009|
Ko lo mu da omu iya e gbe (lets divide and everyone goes his way)
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Becomrich: 11:49pm On May 26, 2009|
An ojukwu, oheneze, dora akunyuli and most igbos leader are ready to stay in nigeria with the north. so we Yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa leaving would not result in a civil war.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by SapeleGuy: 12:39am On May 27, 2009|
Very, very funny, the reason they stacked the pyramids that high was because the bloody things weren't selling quickly. On the subject of contributions pre oil boom. The south has always outperformed the north hands down because the cash crops planted in south namely palm oil, cocoa, rubber & palm kernel oil always fetched more than groundnuts on the international market.
So can we please stop peddling this nonsense about groundnut pyramids.
Lets assume that this assumption of the north being the food basket of the nation is correct and not propaganda like 'giant of africa', the north didn't give this food away free. The south worked hard and BOUGHT this food. It was not an act of charity nor was it the dependency / parasite syndrome that is currently being exhibited.
May be una food come from the north but my starch, banga soup and fresh fish nah Delta e come from!
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by FACE(m): 12:45am On May 27, 2009|
I didn't realise that southerners received free food allocation from the north in the past and my papa had the effrontery to complain about cost of yam and co. Thanx for exposing him; now , I need to ask him why he lied that he was paying for all those onions that came from the north when he received them free of charge.
On the other hand, if he was paying for the food stuff he bought; should he give special thanx to the trader who just took his money off him in exchange for food stuff ? Or maybe, next time he should just buy from the Cameroonian who realises the importance of his custom .
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by sosisi(f): 12:52am On May 27, 2009|
I never benefited from their groundnuts.
How much groundnut can a little 6 year old eat ?
was the east not producing perm kernel and the western Nigeria, cocoa at the same period
why can't we say something before being reminded that the north produced peanuts
are they the only ones that had cash crops?
they should go back to the peanuts then and leave the ND alone
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by SapeleGuy: 12:55am On May 27, 2009|
LOL - Bros, you know you get to follow protocol. As you know Eyadema came to the ancient city to take permission from the Oba of Benin before changing Dahomey to the Benin Republic. Do you have clearance for this plan of yours?
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by bawomolo(m): 1:06am On May 27, 2009|
this board needs an ignore function. A way to block the posts of posters u are not interested in.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Kobojunkie: 1:55am On May 27, 2009|
I don’t know how old your father is or where he lived, but I remember quite clearly that my monthly allowance in primary school could buy me up to 6 solid tubers of yam with no sweet. Back then, 10 kobo bought you good solid bread. I lived in Lagos, and we bought bread directly from the bakery at 10 kobo each during the break or in the mornings.
The north was in charge of food in that country and they did a good job supplying the country. Problems started when government started paying too much attention to oil and less on farming.
So, yeah!! Ask him why he lied to you.
FACE:That is up to your dad to decide.
By the way, It was not just peanuts that came from the north back then. Wheat, Sorghum, Rice, Tomatoes, Onions, Yam, Cheese etc came from the northern states back then.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by FACE(m): 10:04am On May 27, 2009|
Hmmm, I didn't realise that he was only bragging when he insisted on "Akaeze" rice from Afikpo or Abakiliki rice or Abakiliki and Afikpo yams. Those ohaji farmers must have been selling fake yams too. All those garri must have come from the north too. Too bad the south can not produce any of the three main staple foods in Nigeria.
Oh my gosh, they even imported plantains, bananas, egusi, ugu, ukazi, bitterleaf, okro, crayfish, fish, chicken and palm oil from the north .
Umuahia was a major railway town because it was a major palm oil depot in Africa. I guess they were just selling water in pretence. As far as I knew, ogbo mmanu (oil depot) in Umuahia formed a large chunk of the town back in the days but maybe my eyes were deceiving me.
Cashew, rubber, timber and Coacoa also came from the north.
I also bought bread at 10k. In fact my 50k lunch time money got me a combination of bread, coke + egg or bread, coke + groundnuts. N4.00 also took me back home from kaduna to Owerri at the end of the term. I also used to watch my mum hand over N1 in exchange for 54 cups of garri, which probably came from the north. Why the north had to stop planting eggs, bread and coke, I can never tell.
O.K that was in mid 80s, but by the time I left UNN in 96, N3 still got me a meal while my chilled bottle of star only set me back by N5.
Silly me, I thought I could do all those things because the economy was good and Naira had some value. I did not realise that those prices were possible because the north gave away free food to the south.
I did not realise that the cost of petrol rose from 70k/litre to N3.50 and then to N11 / N22 (days of parallel pricing) to what ever it is now because the north stopped supplying food to the south and stopped planting petrol as well !!! What do you expect from me when I shunned economics for further maths at secondary school. The errors of my ways, just moi to blame !!!
Lesson taught, lesson learnt; the high cost of things has nothing to do with the fall of Naira from N7 to $1 in 1990 to whatever it is now. Nothing to do with non-functional lnfrastructure and incessant petrol scarcity. Nothing to do with high cost of manufacturing as a result of unsteady power supply, leading to collapsed factories, which makes Nigeria more dependent on imports which adds even more pressure on the already weak naira. Once the north stopped being the food basket, everything went to pieces.
Thanx for unschooling me in just one day !!! What a feat.
Every section of the country has something to offer if they apply themselves to do so and I am an advocate of a united Nigeria, but that Nigeria has got to be fair to all.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by SubMacGun(m): 10:15am On May 27, 2009|
You get head for Neck and rest of headless chicken wey dey nairaland who cant think ( well them no get head sef ) It is symbotic relationship even with state of decay in nIgeira a large chunk of the food still comes from the north. Tanker drivers coming from the northern part to load petrol from NNPC in Rivers state bring down a large quantity of Yam tubers into the state and that is just one example.
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by asha80(m): 10:27am On May 27, 2009|
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Afaukwu: 10:39am On May 27, 2009|
The coal used in part, to grow the economy before oil come on board was obtained from where? Now talking about oil, are Imo and Abia not oil-producing states?
|Re: What Is Stopping Southern Nigeria From Becoming A Separate Nation? by Afaukwu: 10:41am On May 27, 2009|
Becomrich, the feeling other Nigerians have for the Igbo (as you claimed) is mutual. That is why the North has been able to ride the south roughshod so far.
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