ifenes:
Be warned the Jesus e warriors italo,HCpaul,vooks,Ebuka will shoot you for this! You have dragged their messiah through the mud.

Interesting thread tho. I also heard he may have headed to India at some point too. The illusion of feeding 5,000 men with few loaf of bread says it all.

But do tell me more about is Roman father? I am open minded.

ayoola2002:
@OP, U r a fo ol, stop posting wht u dont know, there is a surat in Quran call Mariam (mary). She is a blessed woman, mind u am, am a muslim by birth, believe in Jesus Christ ( Isa). Merry Xmas

lawani:

If you have been following the news sir, you would have known that Quran copies were found that were dated to when Mohammed was around 5 years old. For a man that killed a man and raped his wife thesame day, attacked people for not following his procedure of worship, plagiarism would be a virtue. Isn't it self evident that the Quran is not an original work? Given that it is based on the Jewish and Christian narratives with negligible originality? Cool down, no need to be scared stiff of hell fire. Don't take God for a mad man.

lawani:
THE STORY OF JESUS CHRIST
A certain young lady in Israel named Mary [s]who was probably less than 15 years of age at that time[/s], was betrothed to a much older man named Joseph[s], a man that was probably around 70 years of age at the time, after a fashion still practiced today in some cultures where older men marry little girls young enough to be their granddaughters.[/s] Mary was bethrothed to Joseph [s]and Joseph was away on a journey, by the time Joseph returned to formalise and climax his marriage, he found Mary to be evidently with child. Being a gentleman, his disposition was to quietly put her away, but then it may have meant that the poor girl would be stoned to death for adultery according to Jewish law, so Joseph accepted to take her in with the child. Afterall, what is the big deal in taking in and caring for a young girl who is pregnant. It really means nothing to an old man. So[/s] he married Mary who gave birth to a baby boy she named a name like Yeshua or its representation in the Bible, [s]Joshua as Y and J are interchangeable in the Aramaic just like in Yahweh and Jehovah.[/s]

[s]The story would have ended there but such stories never end there because of onlookers consisting of friends, family and neighbours of Joseph and Mary who were all there when a certain Roman soldier was flirting with the young Mary, when Joseph returned to take his wife and met her in an unmistakeable state of pregnancy. They knew he agreed to marry her to cover her shame and they knew the name of Yeshua's biological father, a Roman soldier named Pantheras who was later re-posted to Europe. There are many interesting theories about the identity of this Pantheras which I will not go into here.
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As would be expected, Yeshua grew to become a man [s]and he found out that he was born out of wedlock, according to Jewish accounts,[/s] he travelled to Egypt and[s] learnt magical powers which Egyptians pride themselves on possessing. An account said he had incisions on his body, of initiations into Egyptian cults or fraternities.[/s] He returned to Israel and became a preacher, [s]preaching doctrines the Jews considered as heretic, concepts gotten from Egypt which he attempted to fuse into Judaism, some accounts claim him and his followers were sometimes violent.[/s] In the Bible accounts, he equated himself with God, pointing out to his followers that his mother was impregnated by God, that he was greater than David, Moses and etc and one with God.[s] The Bible recorded four instances when mobs picked up stones to stone him to death but he always escaped in strange ways until he was reported to the Roman authourities by the Jews on a charge of inciting the people according to some accounts.[/s] The Roman authourities examined him and were favourably disposed to releasing him but the Jewish authourities would have none of that, so the Romans delivered him to them and the Jews convicted him of blasphemy or heresy. [s]Some accounts say he escaped to India, others say to Germany and that he married Mary Magdalene and one other woman later, gave birth to three children and died at over 70 years of age.[/s] [s]In the Talmud, written in the first century, Jesus Christ is consistently referred to as ben Pantheras, meaning son of Pantheras or ben Stada after maybe his mother's family[/s].

Meanwhile after his exit or supposed execution, depending on who you listen to, his followers insisted he had risen from the dead and that they had seen him, it became a big problem. [s]Rising from the dead was not new in Israel, some earlier Messiahs had thesame claim made of them. [/s][s]Messiahs are men who Jews believe will restore the dignity and independence of their nation by freeing them from Gentile rule. A certain Messiah named Simon from Peraea, modern day Jordan was crushed by the Roman General Varus who decapitated him and left his body to rot in a gully. His followers maintained he rose up again spiritually after three days. That was thesame tradition adopted by Jesus' followers after his exit which became a problem for those who thought they had seen the end of the matter by executing him or chasing him away from Israel as the case may have been.
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The followership began to spread, first among Jews, then among the Gentiles.

vooks:

M0ron,
Merry Christmas

Scholar8200:
Indeed the pharisees are not all dead. The op has given us a sophisticated rendition of one of the many false accusations against the LORD JESUS CHRIST. When even Pilate penetrated the diaphanous veneer of religion and patriotism displayed by the accusers and saw that they were motivated by ENVY!

Richirich713:


What copies of the Quran?

I Ask cuz it looks like u just make claim after claim without any evidence.

Scholar8200:
Indeed the pharisees are not all dead. The op has given us a sophisticated rendition of one of the many false accusations against the LORD JESUS CHRIST. When even Pilate penetrated the diaphanous veneer of religion and patriotism displayed by the accusers and saw that they were motivated by ENVY!

lawani:


You can also research for yourself. Everything is at your fingertips. When you become free is when you realise God is not a mad man.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216627/Koran-Birmingham-thought-oldest-world-predate-Prophet-Muhammad-scholars-say.html

Gayjesus:


How were you able to tell which of the many stories was true. You never lived there and I am sure you do not understand their language and custom. It seems you would prefer the fictional part over the possible part. You should ask yourself why Jesus never really gave a ? about Joseph, his step dad when he died.

lawani:

There was a real need to keep toxic beliefs at bay just like that need exists now, it existed back then. Humans can be very fickle minded, impressionable and etc, see the monster religion has become. So the Jews were right and people really should not be allowed to be hypnotising others with charms and etc with some learned tricks. The romans being polytheists, laughed it off but the Jews saw the vision of the confusion such egotistic claims of being God or son of God can bring with it and they were right. We are all equal. No one is anything other people are barred from.

oglalasioux:
The writer of this post is not only a genius but should not be afraid of any repercussions because there's not gonna be any. This is the truth. The worst thing mankind has ever invented is religion especially Christianity and Islam. Together they have caused more wars and unnecessary deaths and suffering than all natural disasters put together. Very good research.

Scholar8200:
And atheist movements has surpassed them both! (death motivated {sometimes ostensibly} by religion =100million deaths; death motivated by atheist movements = 250 million deaths)

Scholar8200:
And atheist movements has surpassed them both! (death motivated {sometimes ostensibly} by religion =100million deaths; death motivated by atheist movements = 250 million deaths)

KingEbukasBlog:


Nowadays , the atheists say more bullshit and claim they are facts then call you ignorant when you spoon feed them with true facts . The lies spewed by the op with no credible source are already embraced as truth by the atheists . They dont believe in the supernatural but they quickly believed(agreed) Jesus got his magical powers from charms and tricks he got from Egypt .

KingEbukasBlog:


Nowadays , the atheists say more bullshit and claim they are facts then call you ignorant when you spoon feed them with true facts . The lies spewed by the op with no credible source are already embraced as truth by the atheists . They dont believe in the supernatural but they quickly believed(agreed) Jesus got his magical powers from charms and tricks he got from Egypt .

oglalasioux:

Back your view with evidence. You can consider these while doing so;
1. The Jews killed everyone on their path from Egypt to the so called promise land.
2. The movement of Jesus Christ after 70AD incited wars and terrorism in the middle east till the times of Islam.
3. Islam killed and incited wars when their religion is not accepted.
4. The crusades killed millions in the middle east in the name of 'our lord'.
5. The Jihad killed more in the name of Allah.
6. The inquisition in Europe killed millions including scientists whose works helped to make I and you chat on the internet today.
7. Religion played a major part in the two world wars. (the Muslims asked Hitler to murder 6 million Jews).
8. The instability in the world today is perpetrated by religions who are claiming superiority.
9. Shekau said he received instructions from God to murder as many Nigerians as he wishes.
10. Last week, Muslims started killing themselves in Zaria Kaduna state.
I'm waiting for your points.

KingEbukasBlog:


Google Mao Zedong and have fun reading his exploits

oglalasioux:

Chaiman Mao, Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler actually wanted to open the minds of the people about the stupidity of religion. For your information, China wouldn't have been where it is today if Mao Zedong didn't force them to work. It was Mao that demystified the emperors and kings of China and made everyone work!

Scholar8200:
Egypt He left as a toddler!!! That's serious!

KingEbukasBlog:


Please stop the digression and focus on the argument . From your research , how many people did the atheist Mao Zedong kill ?

oglalasioux:

Back your view with evidence. You can consider these while doing so;

1. The Jews killed everyone on their path from Egypt to the so called promise land.

2. The movement of Jesus Christ after 70AD incited wars and terrorism in the middle east till the times of Islam.

4. The crusades killed millions in the middle east in the name of 'our lord'.

6. The inquisition in Europe killed millions including scientists whose works helped to make I and you chat on the internet today.

7. Religion played a major part in the two world wars. (the Muslims asked Hitler to murder 6 million Jews).

10. Last week, Muslims started killing themselves in Zaria Kaduna state.
I'm waiting for your points.

oglalasioux:

How many people did the inquisition and the crusades kill? Please do your research too.

KingEbukasBlog:


Exactly ! Then the story continued when he was 12 - He might have arrived backed home even earlier .