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Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by texazzpete(m): 4:08pm On Jun 08, 2009
gReenmAn:

There's no naivety here.

Someone being South or Central American does not automatically infer they must be coup plotters.
That is a wildly unreasonable generalization, racial profiling if you like!

No. That's poor deductive reasoning on your part.
Central America has been infamous for armed revolution, insurgency and counter insurgency in the past. Most of these actions have had career army officer in the starring role. Now since a large amount of these officers have been trained in Fort Benning, the odds are you'll find Fort Benning graduates implicated in many of these human rights violation cases.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by tpiah: 4:10pm On Jun 08, 2009
anyway, that's the most visible school for the kind of training we're discussing here.

Doesnt mean its the only one.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Afam(m): 4:10pm On Jun 08, 2009
texazzpete:

Now, this is truly amusing.
Someone spins a tale in which he alleges that people are being trained to 'fight lions barehanded and battle with crocodiles' and you people are here wondering if the guy is credible.

There are hundreds of books written by ex SAS and US Navy SEAL commandos. all of them provide an expose on the tough physical training they receive. And NONE of them spend any time battling crocodiles or lions. Yet all these men retain their physique long into retirement. One look at the portly Abacha, and you get the feeling that this man is just pulling out this info from his ass.

As to a journalist blackmailing a millitary head of state, i leave you to judge the plausibility of that tale.

I suggest you begin to dig further for information you don't agree with rather than dismissing anything that doesn't catch your fancy.

Like I stated earlier a lot of things are just beginning to make sense to me after reading through the piece above.

Based on what I have come to know in the last couple of hours I dare say that it would even be difficult (if not impossible) to know exactly what goes on in there and it seems military secrecy is what people would rather embrace on this one.

However, I do agree that the writer may not be 100% correct in his submissions considering the fact that he claims Abacha was the only Nigerian he knows that attended the school in the early 80's where as my father was there in 1978 as a Major in the NA.

There are a whole lot of things that go on that we will never know no matter how hard we try to figure them out.

Pulling the young Kabila (by Collin Powell) out of the school after 1 year to become the president of Congo after the assassination of his father at about 32 years goes on to prove that indeed quite a number of problems in Africa can be linked to foreign interests, interference and programs. That Abacha called Powell (at least Powell stated that much) just before overthrowing Shonekan further cements this Powell connection and the school.

Now, the question remains - Why is the school still existing today? Is it to help promote an agenda of the host country?
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by gReenmAn(m): 4:20pm On Jun 08, 2009
No. That's poor deductive reasoning on your part.
Central America has been infamous for armed revolution, insurgency and counter insurgency in the past. Most of these actions have had career army officer in the starring role. Now since a large amount of these officers have been trained in Fort Benning, the odds are you'll find Fort Benning graduates implicated in many of these human rights violation cases.


To my "poor deductive" mind, the above statement is akin to saying:
Since 419 is almost always masterminded by Nigerians, especially people from the Lagos area from shady corner cybercafes,
odds are if you are a Nigerian, and are internet savvy and has ever lived in the Lagos area, you are most likely a 419er!

Think! That description fits a million and ten Nigerians. Just like you have over 50,000 Southern and Central American officers who passed through the school; they all are NOT coupists.

Again, generalizing is unfair to the innocents.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by agabaI23(m): 4:21pm On Jun 08, 2009
@Afam,
You mentioned 2 things that made me raise eyebrows.

1. When I read somewhere that Abacha called powel before his coup
2. His pulling Kabilla from the so-called school to take over from his father.

Why was that? Was the Kabilla's family the only family in that country. I remember complaining bitterly when the son took over pwer after the death of his father. I never knew the western powers were behind it.

So much! Soooooooo much to chew about!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by kshow1(m): 5:13pm On Jun 08, 2009
an interesting piece to read.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by bandely(m): 5:14pm On Jun 08, 2009
Donno what to say, and I can't believe that the whole story is truth.
BTW, why would this man reveal such things when some of those involved are still alive?
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by nethacker(m): 5:31pm On Jun 08, 2009
bandely:

Donno what to say, and I can't believe that the whole story is truth.
BTW, why would this man reveal such things when some of those involved are still alive?

That thing up there by the poster is true, believe it or not, u can read it urself on www.9jabook.com, things don happen and r still happening shocked
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Owugal(f): 5:42pm On Jun 08, 2009
I wont mince words. I am glad Abacha is dead. I hope he does not rest in peace and I hope his bones become dust never to be discovered. I hope his children change their last name and I hope his lineage and geneology and name do not last another 5o years. and I Hope he is in in Hell right now. burning with Hitler and Idi-Amin
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Kobojunkie: 5:43pm On Jun 08, 2009
Yes oo, !!  a site called 9jabook is source of all things true!! Roflmao!!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by tpiah: 5:51pm On Jun 08, 2009
bandely:

Donno what to say, and I can't believe that the whole story is truth.
BTW, why would this man reveal such things when some of those involved are still alive?


people reveal things all the time.

However, the public is free to analyze, believe or disbelieve what they hear.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by texazzpete(m): 5:56pm On Jun 08, 2009
Further proof that this guy is a lying scumbag

1. Joseph kabila never went to fort Benning. In fact, he received his millitary education from a Chinese millitary school, the PLA National Defense University in Beijing. At the time of his father's death, he was the Army Chief of Staff of the Congolese army.
The professor's story of the guy being in the University before being plucked out of obscurity by Collin Powell are patently false.

2. Paul kagame received millitary training in Ft Leavenworth, not Ft. Benning as the lying professor would have you believe. An easy google search (as well as Wikipedia) will easily reveal this.


When you add these lies to the fairy tale of soldiers duking it out with lions and crocodiles. . .you'd have to be a really crazy person to place any weight on this guy's story.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Ndipe(m): 7:29pm On Jun 08, 2009
Vanity of all vanities!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by bandely(m): 8:34pm On Jun 08, 2009
texazzpete:

Further proof that this guy is a lying scumbag

1. Joseph kabila never went to fort Benning. In fact, he received his millitary education from a Chinese millitary school, the PLA National Defense University in Beijing. At the time of his father's death, he was the Army Chief of Staff of the Congolese army.
The professor's story of the guy being in the University before being plucked out of obscurity by Collin Powell are patently false.

2. Paul kagame received millitary training in Ft Leavenworth, not Ft. Benning as the lying professor would have you believe. An easy google search (as well as Wikipedia) will easily reveal this.


When you add these lies to the fairy tale of soldiers duking it out with lions and crocodiles. . .you'd have to be a really crazy person to place any weight on this guy's story.
You're correct bro, I just checked.
nethacker:

That thing up there by the poster is true, believe it or not, u can read it urself on www.9jabook.com, things don happen and r still happening shocked
And if I read it from www.9jabook.com, isn't it someone that post it there?
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Kobojunkie: 8:40pm On Jun 08, 2009
bandely:

Donno what to say, and I can't believe that the whole story is truth.
BTW, why would this man reveal such things when some of those involved are still alive?

The man na living James Bond oo!!! I can not believe anyone would actually swallow all that up, claiming it is true. We seem to love being deceived. lol
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Sauron1: 8:49pm On Jun 08, 2009
This is lazy journalism at it's best.
Kabila was never a student of Fort Benning.
Nigerians are so easily deceived. . . . . .Everything they read on the webspace is TRUE without tasking their brains to check.
Psssssssssssssf!!!!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by FACE(m): 9:19pm On Jun 08, 2009
Enough holes in the story to put a basket to shame.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by moxamet(m): 9:33pm On Jun 08, 2009
Owu gal:

I wont mince words. I am glad Abacha is dead. I hope he does not rest in peace and I hope his bones become dust never to be discovered. I hope his children change their last name and I hope his lineage and geneology and name do not last another 5o years. and I Hope he is in in Hell right now. burning with Hitler and Idi-Amin

Owu gal, Forgive me, but there seems to be personal tone to your comment, did Abacha do something devastating that affected you personally? More than say, OBJ?
Just asking wo, :-|
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by proudly9ja(m): 10:38pm On Jun 08, 2009
School of the Americas: School of Assassins
Maryknoll World Productions (1995: 13 minutes)
Narrated by Susan Sarandon
Transcribed by Darrell G. Moen

TRANSCRIPT

Susan Sarandon: In the late afternoon of December 4, 1980, an unmarked grave was found in a field in El Salvador. When it was opened in the presence of the U.S. ambassador, it revealed the bodies of four women: Maryknoll Sisters Mara Clark and Eda Ford, Ursaline Sister Dorothy Kazel, and lay missionary Jean Donovan.

Of the five officers later found responsible for the rape and murder of these women, three were graduates of the United States Army School of the Americas. According to the Pentagon, the mission of the school is to train the armed forces of Latin America, promote military professionalism, foster cooperation among multinational military forces, and to expand the trainees' knowledge of United States customs and traditions.

The School of the Americas originated in 1946 in Panama. Now, it is located on the grounds of Fort Benning, Georgia. The school teaches commando operations, sniper training, how to fire an M-16, and psychological warfare. Since no major declared war between Latin American countries has occurred in decades and the communist threat has vanished, why provide this kind of training?

Representative Joseph Kennedy: If you look at the course ranges that are offered to these inividuals, they in fact are a dedicated way of teaching military leaders in foreign nations how to subvert their local communities.

Susan Sarandon: Since it opened, more than 55,000 military officials from 23 Latin American and Carribean countries have trained at the school. About 2,000 students a year. As facts have emerged about the school and its graduates, it has drawn the attention of a growing number of human rights activists, such as Maryknoll Father Roy Bourgeois.

Maryknoll Father Roy Bourgeois: Just down the road here is the School of the Americas. It's a combat school. Most of the courses revolve around what they call "counter-insurgency warfare." Who are the "insurgents?" We have to ask that question. They are the poor. They are the people in Latin America who call for reform. They are the landless peasants who are hungry. They are health care workers, human rights advocates, labor organizers. They become the insurgents. They are seen as "the enemy." They are those who become the targets of those who learn their lessons at the School of the Americas.

Susan Sarandon: What has been learned about the lessons taught at the school? In the 1980s, the civil war in El Salvador became a focal point for human rights activists throughout the world. Death squads operated freely, often killing 50 people a night. There were so many cases that on March 23, 1980, Archbishop Oscar Romero in San Salvador made a plea to the military leaders of his country.

Archbishop Oscar Romero: I would like to make an appeal in a special way to the men of the army. In the name of God, in the name of the suffering people whose laments rise to the heaven each day more tumultuous, I ask you, I order you in the name of God, stop the repression.

Susan Sarandon: While celebrating mass the next day, Archbishop Romero was assassinated. A number of years later, the National Security Archives in Washington D.C. made an important discovery when they obtained a copy of a declassified cable, Cape Dole. Woman working at the National Security Archives: These two cables are both from the American Embassy in El Salvador.

One is from Dean Hinton, who was then Ambassador to El Salvador in 1981. And it discusses a meeting during which Roberto D'Aubuisson plans the murder of Archbishop Romero. During the meeting, there is described a lottery that the people who are attending the meeting hold to see who would draw the "right" to kill Romero himself.

Susan Sarandon: D'Aubuisson was trained at the School of the Americas. Also trained at the school were two of the three officers directly responsible for the assassination. December 11, 1981: El Mazote, a small village in El Salvador,

Rufina Amaya (survivor of the El Mazote massacre): First, they forced everyone out of their houses and made us all lie face down in the street, both men and women. There were soldiers on both sides. Then, they moved away to see the women kneeling down on the ground to pray. They killed all of them. Not a single one of them survived, just me by the grace of God. I hid under a tree. When I heard the screams of the children, and I knew which ones were mine, they were crying, "Mommy, they're killing us."

Susan Sarandon: Over 900 men, women, and children were massacred. Virtually the entire population of the village and the area surrounding El Mazote. Out of 143 bodies identified in the laboratory, 131 were of children under the age of 12, including three infants under the age of three months. Ten of the 12 officers cited as responsible for the El Mazote massacre were graduates of the School of the Americas.

They were members of the Atlacatl Battalion, a part of the El Salvador Army. November 16, 1989: San Salvador. Six Jesuit priests, their housekeeper, and her 15-year-old daughter were slaughtered. To get the facts about this incident, a U.S. Congressional Investigation began, led by Representative Joseph Mokely.

Representative Joseph Mokely: I went down [to El Salvador]. I talked with the Embassy, talked with the military, talked with the unionists. I had meetings set up in very dingy places to talk with people who didn't want to talk to me in public. And we gathered enough information that we pushed the investigation to the degree that it was concluded and the people who perpetrated the crime were found guilty. The killing was done by the Atlacatl Battalion which is the crack [best] battalion in that country. And these are the people, some of them had just returned from the United States, where they were taught a course on "human rights" amongst other things.

Susan Sarandon: Nineteen of the 26 officers implicated in the Jesuit murders were graduates of the school, including Yushi Renee Mendoza, the lieutenant in charge of the squad that killed the Jesuits and the two women. He attended a commando course a year before the massacre took place.

Representative Joseph Mokely: The Truth Commission to the U.N. substantiated everything that I had brought forward.

Susan Sarandon: The United Nations Truth Commission Report released on March 15, 1993, cited specific officers for committing atrocities during the El Salvador civil war. At School of the Americas Watch just outside Fort Benning, Georgia, Vicky Imerman matched the names cited in the U.N. Report with names in a United States Government document.

Vicky Imerman: What I did was I took these officers, all the officers listed in the report and I looked them up in list of graduates of the School of the Americas which we received through the Freedom of Information Act. What I found were 49 of the 60-some officers listed were graduates of the School of the Americas. These officers attended the school both before and after they committed atrocities. Francisco Del Cid, right here, was on the Commandant's List a couple of years after he ordered the massacre of about 16 civilians and had their corpses burned.

Susan Sarandon: El Salvador is only part of the school's story. In the entry area of one of its main buildings are photographs of those the school honors, its so-called Hall of Fame. At the top of the list, Hugo Banzer, former dictator of Bolivia, a graduate of the school. Some of the others similarly honored are the former dictators of Honduras, Ecuador, and Argentina. And generals from eight other Latin and Caribbean nations, many cited by human rights groups for involvement in human rights abuses in their own countries.

Among other graduates, Manuel Noriega, former president of Panama, currently in prison in the United States. Four of the five ranking Honduran officers who organized death squads in the 1980s as part of Battalion 316, are graduates. Half of the 250 Columbian officers cited for human rights abuses attended the school. The three highest ranking Peruvian officers convicted in February 1994 of murdering nine university students and a professor were all graduates. Also, the Peruvian army commander who brought out tanks to obstruct initial investigation of the murders.

During the dictatorship of the Somoza family [in Nicaragua], over 4,000 National Guard troops graduated from the school. Many of them later became known as the "Contras," responsible for the deaths of thousands of Nicaraguan peasants in the 1980s. The general in charge of Argentina's so-called "Dirty War" was a school graduate. During that internal conflict in the late-1970s and early-1980s, an estimated 30,000 people were tortured, disappeared, and murdered.

General Hector Gramajo of Guatemala was the featured speaker at the school's graduation ceremonies in 1991. Human rights groups claim he is the architect of strategies that legalized military atrocities in Guatemala resulting in the death of over 200,000 men, women, and children.

Maryknoll Father Roy Bourgeois: As a Catholic priest, as a U.S. citizen, I really feel a responsibility to speak out against that because of this [school]. This does not lead to healing, it leads to death and suffering. In a way, this is a death machine. And this, I want to say, is very close to home because it's in our backyard. It's not out there in El Salvador. This is not in South Africa. We're talking about a school of assassins right here in our backyard being supported and financed through our tax money. It's being done in our names.

Susan Sarandon: $30 million of U.S. taxpayer money was recently spent to renovate school headquarters and these housing units for soldiers attending the school.

Vicky Imerman: It's an outrage. It's the use of our tax dollars, American tax dollars, for what I think your average American feels is a distinctly un-American purpose.

Susan Sarandon: On September 30, 1993, the School of the Americas was debated by Congress for the first time in its history. It happened when an amendment to the Defense Department budget was introduced by Congressman Joseph Kennedy.

Congressman Joseph Kennedy: Mr. Speaker, my amendment would reduce the Army operation and maintenance account by $2.9 million, the amount dedicated to running the Army School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia. The intent of this amendment is to close the school.

Representative John Lewis: Why should we continue to fund and condone military-inspired murder? Why should we continue to train thugs to kill their own people? Vote for peace. Vote for non-violence. Vote for harmony. Vote for the Kennedy Amendment

Susan Sarandon: 174 voted in favor, 256 against.

Congressman Joseph Kennedy: We're only 30 or 40 votes short of winning. That means that if people around the country hear about this and write their congressman, we can win.This is an issue that we can win on.

Maryknoll Father Roy Bourgeois: And what's very important right now I feel is to let out voices be heard. Bishop Romero said it best before he was assassinated by someone who trained at the School of the Americas. He said, "We who have a voice, we have to speak for the voiceless." I realize that we here in this country have a voice. We can speak without having to worry about being dissappeared or tortured or being picked by [by the police or military]. We can speak, and I just hope that we can speak clearly and boldly on this issue.

Susan Sarandon: In April 1994, a group of human rights activists from around the country began a 40-day fast on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. They were there to make their case for shutting down the School of the Americas. The day before the fast ended, Congressman Kennedy joined them in a press conference.

Congressman Joseph Kennedy: The so-called Hall of Fame in Georgia is nothing more than a Hall of Shame for the people of our country. We, as a nation and as a people have a right and an obligation to say what we believe in in terms of how our dollars are going to be spent. What we are saying unequivocably is that we do not want to be associated with the kinds of individuals that are torturing, maiming, and killing innnocent people throughout Latin America. That's what this bill is all about and that's what your commitment is all about, and we commit to working until this bill is passed.

Susan Sarandon: The next day, Congressman Kennedy's second effort to shut the school was defeated by a smaller margin than his first one. 175 voted for his amendment, 217 against.

Unidentified El Salvadoran woman: I'm not very educated, but in my simple words I think that the only thing the School of the Americas has accomplished is the destruction of our countries in Latin America. Don't give us any more of that military aid. It would be better to help the poor who are in need.

Maryknoll Father Roy Bourgeois: We need the voices of others, and we also need those letters to congressional leaders. To let them know that we will not allow them to use our money to run a school of assassins.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13436.htm
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by texazzpete(m): 6:41am On Jun 09, 2009
~Sauron~:

This is lazy journalism at it's best.
Kabila was never a student of Fort Benning.
Nigerians are so easily deceived. . . . . .Everything they read on the webspace is TRUE without tasking their brains to check.
Psssssssssssssf!!!!

It's sheer laziness. They read up something on the internet and they swallow it hook line and sinker without even engaging their grey cells. I hate to generalize, but it seems to be a particularly severe affliction where Nigerians are concerned.

See people rapidly revising their opinions about Dele Giwa because of the opinions of one rabble rouser.
if there's one thing Nigeria has taught us, most of the time Professors and Politics don't mix with good results!!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by FBS: 7:53am On Jun 09, 2009
Me don talk am. . .such scripts are only meant for the movies. Nollywood. grin
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Afam(m): 8:10am On Jun 09, 2009
agabaI23:

@Afam,
You mentioned 2 things that made me raise eyebrows.

1. When I read somewhere that Abacha called powel before his coup
2. His pulling Kabilla from the so-called school to take over from his father.

Why was that? Was the Kabilla's family the only family in that country. I remember complaining bitterly when the son took over pwer after the death of his father. I never knew the western powers were behind it.

So much! Soooooooo much to chew about!

Seems that the story on Kabila may not be true after all based on the reproduced post below. I have not been able to cross check any of the information made available other than the simple fact that the school does not promote any positive thing and as someone who had his father sent there (31 years ago as a Major in the Nigerian Army) you can understand why this story is more than a story to me.

texazzpete:

Further proof that this guy is a lying scumbag

1. Joseph kabila never went to fort Benning. In fact, he received his millitary education from a Chinese millitary school, the PLA National Defense University in Beijing. At the time of his father's death, he was the Army Chief of Staff of the Congolese army.
The professor's story of the guy being in the University before being plucked out of obscurity by Collin Powell are patently false.

2. Paul kagame received millitary training in Ft Leavenworth, not Ft. Benning as the lying professor would have you believe. An easy google search (as well as Wikipedia) will easily reveal this.


When you add these lies to the fairy tale of soldiers duking it out with lions and crocodiles. . .you'd have to be a really crazy person to place any weight on this guy's story.

Thanks for pointing out some of the inconsistencies in the writer's piece as it is now clear that though he has some concrete information some of the things he put down don't add up.

I am extremely very happy that this story came out as I am beginning to understand some things I never bothered to figure out maybe for the interest of all the parties involved in the case of my father.

Knowing what I know now I believe I now understand why he was treated as hero and has remained someone whose name continues to ring a bell in the Defence HQs. I only wish more information can come out in the open.

On the school proper

It is clear that this school does not serve any useful purpose for the US even though it is situated there unless of course it is used to train military officers that will help do the bidding of the US in their respective countries as it is very clear that most (if not all) of the students are drawn from foreign nations, trained in US soil and these officers turn out to be extremely bad people in their own respective countries.

Put differently, I have this believe that the US can and will support (financial, technical etc) any willing participant to take over the government of his country and in return would grant access to the US whatever the country can offer in return from contracts to crude oil.

Why would the tax payers in the US use their money to fund this type of school when there is no clear benefit to the US?
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by bandely(m): 8:34am On Jun 09, 2009
Afam:

Why would the tax payers in the US use their money to fund this type of school when there is no clear benefit to the US?
I'm sure they are/will benefit from it, like you mention about the crude-oil stuff and even other things.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Nezan(m): 10:32am On Jun 09, 2009
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Pepeye(f): 11:00am On Jun 09, 2009
Abacha was just a figure head the brain behind him and his killings then was Mustapha
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by muhsin(m): 11:33am On Jun 09, 2009
I enjoyed reading the piece.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Epiphany(m): 12:00pm On Jun 09, 2009
The article was a good one. It was both movie and bestseller material and could probably, have some truth to it. Further to the evidence, that the article is NOT REAL, there could still be SOME TRUTH IN IT. I say so because the Prof, journalist or reporters (in their usual fashion) may or may not have been blown out of proportion to make it 'sweeter' to the readers. The name of the school may not even be known as 'School of Assasins'. It may just be another American Militrary Academy or millitary/policy institute (like NIPSS) that is nicknamed 'school or assasins'

The article however points out that our country was in trouble, is in trouble and will be in trouble in the near future. The atrocities committed by our past leaders in the name of fun, friendship, greed and manipulation cannot go without repercussions. Tie this story in with what El-Rufai has been revealing about the emergence of Yar'Adua as president and how it happened just shows that in our country, ANYTHING GOES and EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. A lot of nonsense happens behind the stage that has shocked and will continue to shock us.

I have also seen so much arguements concerning the realness of the school of assassins and whatnot. Let us not forget that the Americans are a 'crazy' bunch. They can do and undo. They have been fingered in all kinds of things, from assasinations to the starting of civil wars. They have dis-stabilized countries for their selfish gains as well as put their puppets in power to manage those countries. Yes, Colin Powell himself, said that Abacha warned him that he was taking over governement. Questions like, "Where did he meet Abacha to gain his (Abacha's) confidence for Abacha to confide in him (Powell)"? "Why would Abacha confide in Powell without feeling that Powell would support him" or "Was Abacha counting on the support of America because of a pre-planned or ordained script?" Questions, questions, questions!

A lot has happened that we may not really believe. Let us however, enjoy the articles that people chose to write.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by stmanpule(m): 12:11pm On Jun 09, 2009
so there's a school of assasins.
http://librarybookshome..com
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by texazzpete(m): 1:07pm On Jun 09, 2009
@Afam
I'm not going to try to hold brief for the US in any way. but in an attempt to answer your question, remember that at the end of WW2 the US was faced with the rise of yet another enemy: Communism. all over the world, communist agents were everywhere spreading the words of revolution and rebellion. We all know how that revolution took hold in China, in Vietnam, in Laos, in Korea.
Seeing the rise of communism in South and Central America, it's not too hard to see why the US would stand to gain much from training and equipping their neighbours with the tools needed to suppress the communist movements. Also there was the side benefit of training extremely promising, intelligent and ambitious career officers who stood a reasonable chance of attaining power and influence in their countries and who could be counted on to be pro-american.

Meanwhile, i've got some information that says we have a lot more in common than you think grin
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by ayobase(m): 4:16pm On Jun 09, 2009
Thats Tight!!!
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by ifele(m): 7:04pm On Jun 09, 2009
Dele Giwa is not an evil criminal , his wife is innocent. ha mafioso yu are one evil rat.
Re: "abacha Was A Student Of School Of Assassins" ? by Afam(m): 7:26pm On Jun 09, 2009
texazzpete:

@Afam
I'm not going to try to hold brief for the US in any way. but in an attempt to answer your question, remember that at the end of WW2 the US was faced with the rise of yet another enemy: Communism. all over the world, communist agents were everywhere spreading the words of revolution and rebellion. We all know how that revolution took hold in China, in Vietnam, in Laos, in Korea.
Seeing the rise of communism in South and Central America, it's not too hard to see why the US would stand to gain much from training and equipping their neighbours with the tools needed to suppress the communist movements. Also there was the side benefit of training extremely promising, intelligent and ambitious career officers who stood a reasonable chance of attaining power and influence in their countries and who could be counted on to be pro-american.

The content in bold refers, another discussion with my younger brother on what he knows about this has thrown up shocking information that makes it clear that participants are very carefully selected and a lot has to do with history, antecedents and intelligence with the hope that they will end up doing the bidding of the US.

Whatever the reason for setting up that school all the evidence based on the products of that school shows that the school is doing far more harm than any good it promises.

texazzpete:

Meanwhile, i've got some information that says we have a lot more in common than you think grin

If it is not SITP then I am all ears because I knew when you came on board on the general forum.

Enjoy the rest of the week.

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