One would wonder,why this is coming out now it's simply the truth. In the U.S of America majority of their past leaders served in the military, ie. (Abraham Lincoln) & this were the people that brougt America to it's world recognation as the the worlds No. 1, before this Pres. Bush jnr. destoryed their economy. Ok in Nigeria, what took Fmr. Pres. Obasanjo 2 months to accomplish, is taking Pres. Yaradua 2 Years & some months to thing about. Military men right from thier Day - 1 at N.D.A are re-modeled to be sharp,smart, & intelligent think tanks.

Leadership is a skill drilled into all soldier men. If you are educated and have decent qualification, you will be joining the army as an officer. These leadership skills are usually accompanied with other qualities like discipline, no-nonsense attitude etc.

This is true, Military men wants results, they rule with the rules and when you cant do as you are told you will be taken care of

The only problem is the freedom of speech

generalzango:

One would wonder,why this is coming out now it's simply the truth. In the U.S of America majority of their past leaders served in the military, ie. (Abraham Lincoln) & this were the people that brougt America to it's world recognation as the the worlds No. 1, before this Pres. Bush jnr. destoryed their economy. Ok in Nigeria, what took Fmr. Pres. Obasanjo 2 months to accomplish, is taking Pres. Yaradua 2 Years & some months to thing about. Military men right from thier Day - 1 at N.D.A are re-modeled to be sharp,smart, & intelligent think tanks.

is that why him and rawlings were corrupt too?

ehhh generalzango, what exactly is your point?

Carlosein:

ehhh generalzango, what exactly is your point?

Military is all about leadership and followership. Officers are trained and modelled to be officers because an officer is a leader of men be it a platoon,company, regiment, division and so on.

Civilians can be good leaders as well but the problem we have is most of our politicians lack any leadership skills and they do not have any inborn leadership qualities. They are not sincere to the people and that is a fundamnetal flaw in leadership as you have to be sincere to your followers to earn their trust.

Carlosein:

ehhh generalzango, what exactly is your point?

Good question .What took OBJ two months and taking yaradulldua over two years without results ?

1. Military have discpline which most civilians lack.

2. Disobedience in the military is a very serious matter not so in the civilian

3. Lieing to your troop is a very very serious matter in the military, as trust and order will be lost immediately. With civilian, they even begin to justify lieing.

For me, having some military type of tarining, as in Leadership, discpline is  very important in civil life BUT Listerning is also equally important.

A leader is important than  AYR A'CLUELESS.

generalzango:

One would wonder,why this is coming out now it's simply the truth. In the U.S of America majority of their past leaders served in the military, ie. (Abraham Lincoln) & this were the people that brougt America to it's world recognation as the the worlds No. 1, before this Pres. Bush jnr. destoryed their economy. Ok in Nigeria, what took Fmr. Pres. Obasanjo 2 months to accomplish, is taking Pres. Yaradua 2 Years & some months to thing about. Military men right from thier Day - 1 at N.D.A are re-modeled to be sharp,smart, & intelligent think tanks.

well , guess what, majority of Nigeria's past leaders were serving military officers, and they are DIRECTLY responsible for Nigeria's position as on of the most corrupt, poor , backward, divided, sectarian Nations on the planet earth. whatever

kindly shove that fake nostalgia you are trying to build for the wonderful days of the khaki boys where the sun don't shine.

the nigerian military may be good at winning wars, but certainly not at leading a nation. you folks had best take lesssons from Kagame of rwanda. now there's a REAL leader, not a petty thief who guouged his nation.

@poster: wat good has it done naija?

I agree to some extent, however, i am not sure if i agree with Nigerian Military men, cos we have had Buhari, Abacha, IBB, OBJ and others ruled and we never see anything good in them.
Military men are supposed to be honest, patriotic and reliable, but Nigerian Military men are not, they are uselessly useless.

Fhemmmy:

I agree to some extent, however, i am not sure if i agree with Nigerian Military men, cos we have had Buhari, Abacha, IBB, OBJ and others ruled and we never see anything good in them.
Military men are supposed to be honest, patriotic and reliable, but Nigerian Military men are not, they are uselessly useless.

And this is why the military did such a great job developing Nigeria?

They stole all the money and nearly all had private jet. Is that leadership.

bashali:

They stole all the money and nearly all had private jet. Is that leadership.

I guess by Nigerian standard, they are good leader, but i say they are $hit head.

its a myth

mikeansy:

its a myth

It is not a myth, if you look into how the Military ought to be, but just not applicable to Nigeria, cos our own military is Nigerian branded.

No doubt, the military destroyed Nigeria and i still believe they are all Pots of Mess, BUT the civilians (YaraDULLa and co.) are not doing anything to prove this point.

With peeps like YaraDULLa still holding the mantle, the military will keep laughing at we civilians, and all our posts we put here condemning the military would just be mere assumptions.

They are all same bunch in Nija, see the rate at which the ex service men are joining political parties in nigeria.
Well, i cant blame them, a nation where u hold the sit of ordinary councilor for one year and don hammer.

Lol!

Fhemmmy:

I agree to some extent, however, i am not sure if i agree with Nigerian Military men, cos we have had Buhari, Abacha, IBB, OBJ and others ruled and we never see anything good in them.
Military men are supposed to be honest, patriotic and reliable, but Nigerian Military men are not, they are uselessly useless.

And come to think of it it was the military men in naija eg: IBB and ABACHA

that brought us to our knees. You have to wonder where they they were

when lesson in discipline, honesty, patriotism and reliability were being taught.

Anyway OBJ was an odd exception but i tell you what; i will definately not be voting for IBB

or Buhari in an election though they are ex- service men. God forbid bad thing!!!

Being a politics student, according to Nigeria history and books have read and series of questions tackled on this issue. I agree and believe the military has achieved and developed 9ja than their civilian counterpart. Lets delete the likes of IBB, buhari n abacha but the likes of Gowon my man,idiagbon, obj then, murtala are good eggs among them. All leadership is corrupt but military are best to rule 9ja if fundamental human right is not deprived i believe in the khaki boys. God bless 9ja

@ElRazor.
GBAM!!

The only thing I believe a leader needs is confidence to lead which military men having held guns before and have had juniors kiss their feet before have. If you attend a good Univ. like Havard you'll have confidence not only because of the prestigious name but because it will be taught to you.
Don't forget most of these military guys think they are above the law anyway and that gives them confidence and I'm sure you'll rather follow a 'confident loser' than a 'hesitant go- getter'. You think if I believe I'm unstoppable I'll let anything stop me? I'll go on till the constitution prevents my third term and thats if I can't help it!

Of what good is your leadership skills, when you are leading in the wrong direction?

Fhemmmy:

I agree to some extent, however, i am not sure if i agree with Nigerian Military men, cos we have had Buhari, Abacha, IBB, OBJ and others ruled and we never see anything good in them.
Military men are supposed to be honest, patriotic and reliable, but Nigerian Military men are not, they are uselessly useless.

It's ur mouth, u can use it to chew shit the way u like

It depends on your definition of leadership, if you define LEADERSHIP as the ability to perpertrate babarity, behave like zombies, Fraud, Insubordination(Coup de Tat), bastardize the whole system, promote massive corruption , subvert the aspirations of the people , destroy the Educational system and bring the country to the brink , then NIGERIAN MILLITARY leaders are the best.
But what proponents of this stupid and i mean stupid idealogy fail to understand is that Nigeria has made more pogress in 10 years of civilain rule than in 30 years of Military rule.
They also perhaps forget that some of the best leaders in History were never in the Millitary, Examples are Moses(Bible), Martin Luther King, Mahatma Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reegan, Nelson Mandela, Bill Clinton and yes Barack Obama.
Pls end this stupid debate with fallacious reasoning.how can you use a leader that was not the mandate of the people to judge leadership.

I agree with the poster, but I'll add that:

1. Those past  leaders in the US were not serving military men. In Nigeria why the military do what they do is because they have the guns at their disposal. They rule by the guns.

2. Once a retired military man with discipline vies for a political position, and his aim is not to plunder the benefits of his office, then what he had learnt in the military should enable him lead his people to eldorado.

3. Nigeria has grown to a country that only BRUTE FORCE can bring about change. (The reason OBJ can be said to be successfull and Yar'Adua not

obviously.if you have a soldier as a father or blood brother,his level of discipline is amazing.i however do not support military rule.

Re: Ex- Military Men Have Leadership Qualities Than Civilians.

oh well, they also have er spoken/written english than civilians