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Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 6:32pm On Jun 26, 2009
Here's a very interesting article by an Igbo woman in the American Thinker. So many issues are discussed but it all centers around the person of Obama.  Enjoy the article and let's have your thoughts. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/obama_the_african_colonial.html

Had Americans been able to stop obsessing over the color of Barack Obama's skin and instead paid more attention to his cultural identity, maybe he would not be in the White House today. The key to understanding him lies with his identification with his father, and his adoption of a cultural and political mindset rooted in postcolonial Africa.


Like many educated intellectuals in postcolonial Africa, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was enraged at the transformation of his native land by its colonial conqueror. But instead of embracing the traditional values of his own tribal cultural past, he embraced an imported Western ideology, Marxism. I call such frustrated and angry modern Africans who embrace various foreign "isms", instead of looking homeward for repair of societies that are broken, African Colonials. They are Africans who serve foreign ideas.


The tropes of America's racial history as a way of understanding all things black are useless in understanding the man who got his dreams from his father, a Kenyan exemplar of the African Colonial.


Before I continue, I need to say this: I am a first generation born West African-American woman whose parents emigrated to the U.S. in the 1970's from the country now called Nigeria. I travel to Nigeria frequently. I see myself as both a proud American and as a proud Igbo (the tribe that we come from -- also sometimes spelled Ibo). Politically, I have always been conservative (though it took this past election for me to commit to this once and for all!); my conservative values come from my Igbo heritage and my place of birth. Of course, none of this qualifies me to say what I am about to -- but at the same time it does.


My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel. Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself -- those of us who know our history -- have seen this movie before. Here are two main reasons why many Americans allowed Obama to slip through the cracks despite all of his glaring inconsistencies:


First, Obama has been living on American soil for most of his adult life. Therefore, he has been able to masquerade as one who understands and believes in American democratic ideals. But he does not. Barack Obama is intrinsically undemocratic and as his presidency plays out, this will become more obvious. Second, and most importantly, too many Americans know very little about Africa. The one-size-fits-all understanding that many Americans (both black and white) continue to have of Africa might end up bringing dire consequences for this country.


Contrary to the way it continues to be portrayed in mainstream Western culture, Africa is not a continent that can be solely defined by AIDS, ethnic rivalries, poverty and safaris. Africa, like any other continent, has an immense history defined by much diversity and complexity. Africa's long-standing relationship with Europe speaks especially to some of these complexities -- particularly the relationship that has existed between the two continents over the past two centuries. Europe's complete colonization of Africa during the nineteenth century, also known as the Scramble for Africa, produced many unfortunate consequences, the African colonial being one of them.


The African colonial (AC) is a person who by means of their birth or lineage has a direct connection with Africa. However, unlike Africans like me, their worldviews have been largely shaped not by the indigenous beliefs of a specific African tribe but by the ideals of the European imperialism that overwhelmed and dominated Africa during the colonial period. AC's have no real regard for their specific African traditions or histories.  AC's use aspects of their African culture as one would use pieces of costume jewelry: things of little or no value that can be thoughtlessly discarded when they become a negative distraction, or used on a whim to decorate oneself in order to seem exotic. (Hint: Obama's Muslim heritage).


On the other hand, AC's strive to be the best at the culture that they inherited from Europe. Throughout the West, they are tops in their professions as lawyers, doctors, engineers, Ivy League professors and business moguls; this is all well and good. It's when they decide to engage us as politicians that things become messy and convoluted.


The African colonial politician (ACP) feigns repulsion towards the hegemonic paradigms of Western civilization. But at the same time, he is completely enamored of the trappings of its aristocracy or elite culture. The ACP blames and caricatures whitey to no end for all that has gone wrong in the world. He convinces the masses that various forms of African socialism are the best way for redressing the problems that European colonialism motivated in Africa. However, as opposed to really being a hard-core African Leftist who actually believes in something, the ACP uses socialist themes as a way to disguise his true ambitions: a complete power grab whereby the "will of the people" becomes completely irrelevant.


Barack Obama is all of the above. The only difference is that he is here playing (colonial) African politics as usual.   


In his 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father -- an eloquent piece of political propaganda -- Obama styles himself as a misunderstood intellectual who is deeply affected by the sufferings of black people, especially in America and Africa. In the book, Obama clearly sees himself as an African, not as a black American. And to prove this, he goes on a quest to understand his Kenyan roots. He is extremely thoughtful of his deceased father's legacy; this provides the main clue for understanding Barack Obama.


Barack Obama Sr. was an African colonial to the core; in his case, the apple did not fall far from the tree. All of the telltale signs of Obama's African colonialist attitudes are on full display in the book -- from his feigned antipathy towards Europeans to his view of African tribal associations as distracting elements that get in the way of "progress".  (On p. 308 of Dreams From My Father, Obama says that African tribes should be viewed as an "ancient loyalties".)


Like imperialists of Old World Europe, the ACP sees their constituents not as free thinking individuals who best know how to go about achieving and creating their own means for success. Instead, the ACP sees his constituents as a flock of ignorant sheep that need to be led -- oftentimes to their own slaughter.


Like the European imperialist who spawned him, the ACP is a destroyer of all forms of democracy.


Here are a few examples of what the British did in order to create (in 1914) what is now called Nigeria and what Obama is doing to you: 


1. Convince the people that "clinging" to any aspect of their cultural (tribal) identity or history is bad and regresses the process of "unity". British Imperialists deeply feared people who were loyal to anything other than the state. "Tribalism" made the imperialists have to work harder to get people to just fall in line. Imperialists pitted tribes against each other in order to create chaos that they then blamed on ethnic rivalry. Today many "educated" Nigerians, having believed that their traditions were irrelevant, remain completely ignorant of their ancestry and the history of their own tribes.

2. Confiscate the wealth and resources of the area that you govern by any means necessary in order to redistribute wealth. The British used this tactic to present themselves as empathetic and benevolent leaders who wanted everyone to have a "fair shake". Imperialists are not interested in equality for all. They are interested in controlling all.   

3. Convince the masses that your upper-crust university education naturally puts you on an intellectual plane from which to understand everything even when you understand nothing. Imperialists were able to convince the people that their elite university educations allowed them to understand what Africa needed. Many of today's Nigerians-having followed that lead-hold all sorts of degrees and certificates-but what good are they if you can't find a job?   

4. Lie to the people and tell them that progress is being made even though things are clearly becoming worse.  One thing that the British forgot to mention to their Nigerian constituents was that one day, the resources that were being used to engineer "progress" (which the British had confiscated from the Africans to begin with!) would eventually run out. After WWII, Western Europe could no longer afford to hold on to their African colonies. So all of the counterfeit countries that the Europeans created were then left high-and-dry to fend for themselves. This was the main reason behind the African independence movements of the1950 and 60's. What will a post-Obama America look like?

5. Use every available media outlet to perpetuate the belief that you and your followers are the enlightened ones-and that those who refuse to support you are just barbaric, uncivilized, ignorant curmudgeons.  This speaks for itself.


America, don't be fooled. The Igbos were once made up of a confederacy of clans that ascribed to various forms of democratic government. They took their eyes off the ball and before they knew it, the British were upon them. Also, understand this: the African colonial who is given too much political power can only become one thing: a despot.


L.E. Ikenga can be reached at leikenga@gmail.com.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by preselect(m): 7:08pm On Jun 26, 2009
both the writer of the article, and his surrogate a.k.a poster are nothing but sore loosers craving for relevance tongue

let me remind you, in case u forgot. obama is the president of the United States tongue

he dumped mrs clinton in the primaries tongue

refused to select her as VP tongue

he will rule america for the next 4yrs tongue

all his haters and fox news apologists shall continue to live in fear tongue

the fear was created by faux news, a.k.a fix news, so let them have their fear for four yrs tongue

obama will be re-elected tongue

God is on his side tongue

republicans cant campaign against him based on family values anymore tongue

infact he'll campaign against republicans using family values and religion tongue

in the meantime . . HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES tongue

not old john, not hillary the witch, not rush lumbaugh. . . an alcoholic, fat slowpoke with a history of failed marriages tongue

no apologies cool
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by tunku(m): 8:03pm On Jun 26, 2009
Crackpotism knows no race, creed, or sanity apparently.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 8:05pm On Jun 26, 2009
@pres-elect,

Your tone suggests you are the sore loser here. How can someone disagree with such dignity and here we see an apologist getting red in the face trying to protect his god, Obama. Can't you do better than just to attack personalities? You are beginning to sound very ridiculous.

Intellectual dissent is getting more and more scarce on nairaland. May God help us all.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by tunku(m): 8:09pm On Jun 26, 2009
This just smacks of self-hatred. The only proof she proffered is Obama's African heritage. That is lazy bullshit argumentations right there. I know some people, africans, who don't support Obama not for policy reasons, but because he is of African descent. I guess this idiots would deny that black can be good too. This is the most blatant case of self-projection ever. I would advise her to take up the cause of Biafra once more. Hell, I wish Africa was more communist or even more socialist. If she thinks that all these tin pot republics that sprung up in Africa were advocating socialism rather than nationlising asserts for their own benefits and not the people than she is stupider than I give her credit for. This isn't news, though, this is just some fetid ramblings of a person whose ideology has done more damage to America than they imagine Obama will ever do. If she doesn't like it let her go rot in Nigeria for all I care.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by cold(m): 8:39pm On Jun 26, 2009
Young Republican, for all the destructive criticisms u've been uploading on here for your demi-gods,can u tell me 1 thing u think Obama is doing right for the sake of objectivity.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by Ibime(m): 8:44pm On Jun 26, 2009
This stupid bitch is just dropping conjecture.

Bitch sounds like Kobojunkie.

The whole bloody article is a whole load of waffle waffle, and says nothing substantive about Obama himself, just chatting some bollocks here and there about 'African' colonials and bla bla bla. Who even told this bitch that she doesn't fit the African colonial stereotype more closely than Obama. Im sure Azikiwe is her hero, the same Azikiwe who ran to the marxists in Ghana when he was fighting for Independence.

Of course I expect Tayo-D to find reason in this nonsense. His scattergun approach to mudslinging just serves to cheapen his intellectual standing by the day. tongue


I mean look at this nonsense. . . .



Tayo-D:



Here are a few examples of what the British did in order to create (in 1914) what is now called Nigeria and what Obama is doing to you: 


1. Convince the people that "clinging" to any aspect of their cultural (tribal) identity or history is bad and regresses the process of "unity". British Imperialists deeply feared people who were loyal to anything other than the state. "Tribalism" made the imperialists have to work harder to get people to just fall in line. Imperialists pitted tribes against each other in order to create chaos that they then blamed on ethnic rivalry. Today many "educated" Nigerians, having believed that their traditions were irrelevant, remain completely ignorant of their ancestry and the history of their own tribes.

2. Confiscate the wealth and resources of the area that you govern by any means necessary in order to redistribute wealth. The British used this tactic to present themselves as empathetic and benevolent leaders who wanted everyone to have a "fair shake". Imperialists are not interested in equality for all. They are interested in controlling all.   

3. Convince the masses that your upper-crust university education naturally puts you on an intellectual plane from which to understand everything even when you understand nothing. Imperialists were able to convince the people that their elite university educations allowed them to understand what Africa needed. Many of today's Nigerians-having followed that lead-hold all sorts of degrees and certificates-but what good are they if you can't find a job?   

4. Lie to the people and tell them that progress is being made even though things are clearly becoming worse.  One thing that the British forgot to mention to their Nigerian constituents was that one day, the resources that were being used to engineer "progress" (which the British had confiscated from the Africans to begin with!) would eventually run out. After WWII, Western Europe could no longer afford to hold on to their African colonies. So all of the counterfeit countries that the Europeans created were then left high-and-dry to fend for themselves. This was the main reason behind the African independence movements of the1950 and 60's. What will a post-Obama America look like?

5. Use every available media outlet to perpetuate the belief that you and your followers are the enlightened ones-and that those who refuse to support you are just barbaric, uncivilized, ignorant curmudgeons.  This speaks for itself.


America, don't be fooled. The Igbos were once made up of a confederacy of clans that ascribed to various forms of democratic government. They took their eyes off the ball and before they knew it, the British were upon them. Also, understand this: the African colonial who is given too much political power can only become one thing: a despot.


L.E. Ikenga can be reached at leikenga@gmail.com.
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Is she now accusing the British Government of the late 19th century of also being marxist?

Hw can this stupid bitch accuse Obama of marxism, then turn around and accuse him of implementing the same policies as a Conservative Britain?

The idiot even left her email. l'll get my goons to spam it.  grin
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 8:48pm On Jun 26, 2009
@cold,

I don't understand what you mean by destructive criticims. I have genuine reservations about what Obama stands for and his policies. I am just not gonna let racial solidarity blind me to the greater good.  Besides, political leaders need to be watched more closely when they have popular support. The feeling across the globe is that Bush used the global solidarity that America got after 911 to commit the most heinous attrocities. Obama like Bush is human. That mistake should not be repeated.

By the way, I am not the only one who feel this way about Obama. When his policies are tabled before the American people, they never go beyond the 50% thereshold approval and yet Obama as a person enjoys consistent approval ratings of 60%. Why is that so?

Before I itemise what I like about Obama, maybe not his policies, I'll appreciate if you can distance Obama from the five points that the lady itemised in her article. Maybe we should start from there and not get too attached to personalities.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 8:51pm On Jun 26, 2009
@Ibime,

Of course I expect Tayo-D to find reason in this nonsense. His scattergun approach to mudslinging just serves to cheapen his intellectual standing by the day.
Mudslinging? Where? Maybe I should find articles of Obama supporters who don't support his policies. Will that make you happy?
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by Ibime(m): 8:57pm On Jun 26, 2009
Tayo-D:

@Ibime,
Mudslinging? Where? Maybe I should find articles of Obama supporters who don't support his policies. Will that make you happy?


No, the emphasis is on scattergun.

Your criticisms of Obama have no common underlying thread. You just throw a lot of mud to see what sticks.

This particular critique is the worst of the bunch. This bitch cannot make an argument to save her life, just clutching at straws like a pregnant cow. She would be tossed out of court for making such haphazard arguments. I have just pointed out her inconsistencies. At the start of her article, she accuses Obama of Marxism. At the end of the article, she accuses Obama of implementing the policies of a Conservative Britain. Are those two arguments congruous? This bitch is just dense.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by sosisi(f): 8:58pm On Jun 26, 2009
Tayo -D,I know we diagreed heavily on Obama during the elections.
Now I regret voting for the guy and encouraging others to do so
He's been nothing but a huge disappointment in my opinion
He's trying so hard to erase the ancient landmarks
I am no longer a fan of his
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 9:03pm On Jun 26, 2009
@osisi,

Tayo -D,I know we diagreed heavily on Obama during the elections.
Now I regret voting for the guy and encouraging others to do so
He's been nothing but a huge disappointment in my opinion
He's trying so hard to erase the ancient landmarks
I am no longer a fan of his
shocked shocked shocked shocked
To say I am shocked is an understatement. If no be say I know you better, I for talk say you wan eliminate Mitchell so you can have Obama to yourself. That is how much I thouhgt you love the guy.

But I ma not shocked really. Many people I know who voted for him are expresing the same sentiments. Warren Buffet who publicly supported Obama and still claims he does, has slammed almost every action taken by the guy. I just dn't se what he is doing that will help America on the long run.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by sosisi(f): 9:05pm On Jun 26, 2009
I still have a small minute crush grin
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 9:09pm On Jun 26, 2009
@Ibime,

No, the emphasis is on scattergun.

Your criticisms of Obama have no common underlying thread. You just throw a lot of mud to see what sticks.

This particular critique is the worst of the bunch. This bitch cannot make an argument to save her life, just clutching at straws like a pregnant cow. She would be tossed out of court for making such haphazard arguments. I have just pointed out her inconsistencies. At the start of her article, she accuses Obama of Marxism. At the end of the article, she accuses Obama of implementing the policies of a Conservative Britain. Are those two arguments congruous? This bitch is just dense.
Obama did not pass the smell test at the very go.  I just could not get myself to rally behing him no matter how hard I tried. Very little was known about him and I was really weary of the effort and the extent the media was going to sell his candidacy.

As to the being incongrous, I will advise you read the article again. She was not talking about the same person in both instances. The first was Obama's father while the second was Obama! Cool down small and try to see beyond your bias. I am trying to do same.  grin
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by cold(m): 9:17pm On Jun 26, 2009
Tayo-D:

@osisi,
shocked shocked shocked shocked
To say I am shocked is an understatement. If no be say I know you better, I for talk say you wan eliminate Mitchell so you can have Obama to yourself. That is how much I thouhgt you love the guy.

But I ma not shocked really. Many people I know who voted for him are expresing the same sentiments. Warren Buffet who publicly supported Obama and still claims he does, has slammed almost every action taken by the guy.  I just dn't se what he is doing that will help America on the long run.
Like what exactly,the same Buffet you talk abt just said a couple of months ago that 'i doff my hat to the present administration' based on Obama's policies.U're trying really hard to discredit the man while GOP continues to crumble like a house built on sand.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by cold(m): 9:25pm On Jun 26, 2009
Truth be told if another election were to be held today,Obama would win by a landslide.Tell me 1 republican that is capable of presenting a formidable opposition.Ur arguement just smacks of hatred no matter how u try to gloss it over with intellectual(isms)
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 9:26pm On Jun 26, 2009
@cold,

Like what exactly,the same Buffet you talk abt just said a couple of months ago that 'i doff my hat to the present administration' based on Obama's policies.U're trying really hard to discredit the man while GOP continues to crumble like a house built on sand.
A couple of months ago? The guy said yesterday that the economy was in shmbles. He reiterated his point a few months ago that the Administration should ocncentrate on the economy and not attempt to ush too many things down American's throat.

I am not interested in changing your position of this matters. The facts do not need to get in the way of your bias.

The same Buffet that is against card check?

He slammed the Cap and Trade bill just yesterday.  This is the bill that the House up in the house for a vote now.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 9:29pm On Jun 26, 2009
@cold,

Who is talking about voting now? We are talking about what the guy stands for - his policies. You may start another thread to discuss the outcome of an election.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by DrDWelz(m): 9:31pm On Jun 26, 2009
I want back the 10 minutes of my life I wasted reading that absolutely baseless and incoherent article. There is as much sense in that article as one would expect if one jumbled up 1000 letters and splattered them all over a page. Her facts and assertions about Africa, the British, Post-colonial Africa, Obama,  are very wrong, or at best deeply misguided. I can't begin debunking them, because it daunting figuring out where to start from. Give us a well thought intellectual critique rather than a page of bollocks, and you'll get a reasoned response.
Ibime:

  just clutching at straws like a pregnant cow.

Lol! I'll have to agree with that sentiment.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by Ibime(m): 9:35pm On Jun 26, 2009
Tayo-D:

As to the being incongrous, I will advise you read the article again. She was not talking about the same person in both instances. The first was Obama's father while the second was Obama! Cool down small and try to see beyond your bias. I am trying to do same.  grin

Nonsense. .  . she is directly linking Obama to his pops when she says this:

The key to understanding him lies with his identification with his father, and his adoption of a cultural and political mindset rooted in postcolonial Africa.

It is spurious at best. We might as well link her to Nyerere and his marxists because her father as an Igo man is probably a fan of Azikiwe, hence she must be too.

To be honest, I expect intellectual discussions on here, not some nonsense cooked up by some halfwit. Even her style of writing is wack. She does not present her story well, her command of the English language is poor, and she makes too many spurious links throughout the article.

I do understand that Obama may have some history with British colonialists or whatever cos they imprisoned his grandfather and bla bla bla, but I expect better from writers. I dont know how anyone can find reason in this semi-literate woman's nonsense. Writing disfavourably about 'African Colonials' is insulting to me, as it presents African Independence fighters as enemies of the American State. She uses it throughout the article, and imparts subliminal negative thoughts into the mind of the reader about 'African Colonials'. She almost shows a disdain for the 'African Colonials' who fought for her Independence. I find it very offensive. Secondly, she does not have to label 'African Colonials' as marxists. Most Africans are naturally Conservative, and most of these guys formed alliances with the Socialists (the only group who would support their cause), not because they were socialists themselves, but it was a marriage of convenience.



Now I disagree with many of Obama's modus operandi, but can we have a common thread in our critique, not a scattergun approach?


Eg, I dont know what Obama is doing acting all conciliatory to some Middle East States. He doesn't seem to realise that the weight of enmity is well entrenched and his smiles and charm will not change that. I also loathe how the media deifies him, covering sturvs like him swatting a fly and such nonsense. I wish he would stop smiling all the damn time and act serious. etc etc etc.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 9:41pm On Jun 26, 2009
@Ibime,

I don't think she has any disdain for them. I think her point is just that while they may have foought against the enslavement of their people, they turn around and use the same tactics to enslave the same people they fought for. You can't but agree with such point when you consider people like Mugabe and co. Her problem is not with the person, but with the same system now recycled, repackaged and readministered.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by JeSoul(f): 9:56pm On Jun 26, 2009
$osisi:

Tayo -D,I know we diagreed heavily on Obama during the elections.
Now I regret voting for the guy and encouraging others to do so
He's been nothing but a huge disappointment in my opinion
He's trying so hard to erase the ancient landmarks
I am no longer a fan of his
  shocked  shocked  shocked  shocked I was reading along quietly until I saw this, Osisi was Obama's biggest fan on NL  shocked  shocked  shocked
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by MrCrackles(m): 9:57pm On Jun 26, 2009
$osisi:

Tayo -D,I know we diagreed heavily on Obama during the elections.
Now I regret voting for the guy and encouraging others to do so
He's been nothing but a huge disappointment in my opinion
He's trying so hard to erase the ancient landmarks
I am no longer a fan of his

My first clash with you was for peppering the forum with everything Obama! grin
I cant believe you typed the above OSISI!! shocked shocked shocked shocked grin cheesy
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by oyinda3(f): 10:06pm On Jun 26, 2009
her writing is very interesting and very ridiculous at the same time.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by Ikomi(m): 10:35pm On Jun 26, 2009
@Topic

What a lousy write up, more like a personality attack than it is on policy.

His origin, and how that links with colonialism and Marxism?

Maybe she sees an opening in the Republican party, all you need to do now to get a place in the party is attack Obama.

Who gets the position is who attacks him the best, so she took an area most Americans might not be looking at or have forgotten. "Oooohhhhhhh you guys should look, I found out he is a black man and his from Kenya, where blacks aren't doing too well".

Only an idiot would find this intresting and make a topic of it.

Av always called him one from the very first read of his first post, he is just making my job easier portraying his utmost stupidity.  angry
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by No2Atheism(m): 10:37pm On Jun 26, 2009
$osisi:

Tayo -D,I know we diagreed heavily on Obama during the elections.
Now I regret voting for the guy and encouraging others to do so
He's been nothing but a huge disappointment in my opinion
He's trying so hard to erase the ancient landmarks
I am no longer a fan of his

@osisi am sorry that u voted for him.

- I do not support either of the candidates neither republican nor democrats , cus they are just the same coin but merely different side of the coin.
- obama was put forward by the NWO controlling the USA (e.g. Geogre Soros and co) because of his exoticness, skin color, anger against the republicans, anger against Bush and all other favourable reasons.
- In all reality there is little difference between Bush and Obama in terms of policy implementation e.g. some of the security and secrecy issues created by bush are still being used by him.
- I am glad that people are starting to wake up to the deception known as Obama.
- The Bankers broke the economy, and then Obama goes ahead to hire the same bankers connected to the scandal to try and fix the same problem created by them (Timothy Giethner and co).
- Bush was a pawn.
- Obama is also a pawn. He is just a black pawn.
- The fact that the state of isreal can call the bluff of the USA President is reason for u to realise that Obama is there is execute some people's programs and not necessarily do things that benefit people.
- yes the original post is a little bit ridiculous at times, but there a slight element of truth to it.
- Africans need to realise that Europeans have never done anything that benefits Africa, their actions are based on ulterior motives and greed towards a longterm benefit for Europe. So long as Africans keep looking to Europe for solutions, we would still continue to be backward, until we iron out our own problems and pick ourselves up just like the Chinese and Japanese (who were also once decimated/dominated by European power at one time or another).
- IRS keeps extorting people and yet they are not even a government institution (yep they are private).
- Federal Reserve has caused 2 markets crashes till date, have benefited from them and yet they also are not a goverment institution (yep they are private)
- The truth is that no party affiliated politician can be trusted, even wen it looks like they are innocent, cus they would never be in their position if they were not team players.
- The best thing and closest thing to having a trusthworthy politician is if the policitian is an independent.
- The solution to debt management is not more debt instead it is less debt, yet here u have Obama and most of the politicans advocating for TARP and other stimulus packages that only the wealthy people actually benefit from and which the poor people and their future generations have to pay for. Yes i have heard people claim that the wealthy pay more tax than the poor, well if u consider that in value yes , but in terms of cash flow, not really, cus the rich have the means to get back wat they paid via other means. Hence while the poor pays the tax and sees it no more , the rich however can still get back a percentage of the tax via cash flow towards him through other areas.

@jesoul

wats ur opinion
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 10:42pm On Jun 26, 2009
@Ikomi,

Only an idiot would find this intresting and make a topic of it.

Av always called him one from the very first read of his first post, he is just making my job easier portraying his utmost stupidity.
You know, one would think the writer of this article was also a prophetess.  Seeing that the dogs have woken up to go back to their own vomit in fulfillment of exactly what she said:  "5. Use every available media outlet to perpetuate the belief that you and your followers are the enlightened ones-and that those who refuse to support you are just barbaric, uncivilized, ignorant curmudgeons. This speaks for itself."

The same hypocrite calling others names for attacking people's personalities (which is not the case here), is here practicing the same.  I guess fools will always be fools.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by oyinda3(f): 10:49pm On Jun 26, 2009
Dr D-Welz:

I want back the 10 minutes of my life I wasted reading that absolutely baseless and incoherent article. There is as much sense in that article as one would expect if one jumbled up 1000 letters and splattered them all over a page. Her facts and assertions about Africa, the British, Post-colonial Africa, Obama,  are very wrong, or at best deeply misguided. I can't begin debunking them, because it daunting figuring out where to start from. Give us a well thought intellectual critique rather than a page of bollocks, and you'll get a reasoned response.
Lol! I'll have to agree with that sentiment.


I was thinking the same and don't know why anyone would agree with the stuff she wrote. lol
I find it quite interesting to read though. lol at the AC "african colonial"
but the article is very messed up all the same
sort of reminds me of those afrocentric, afrikka articles and threads you'll find in the tribalism section. very dumbfounding to say the least.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by Ikomi(m): 11:10pm On Jun 26, 2009
@ Topic And to whom it may Concern.

"If it happens the first time its an accident,
if it happens the second time its a plan,
if it happens the third time its a program"


The poster has finally chossen the path of stupidity, and why should anyone in his right sences be afraid to say so? undecided
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by TayoD1(m): 11:20pm On Jun 26, 2009
Ikomi:

The poster has finally chossen the path of stupidity, and why should anyone in his right sences be afraid to say so? undecided
The same stupidity that follwos you around to this thread?

If you have nothing to say, why not keep quiet. A fool can be mistaken for being wise if he keeps quiet.  In your case, you open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I am glad you have kept up with your attack on personalities.  Your inability to reason on your own suggests it is your best course of action.  I doubt anyone can learn from a self-proclaimed expert who thinks a Shiite is a member of a tribe in Iraq!
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by JeSoul(f): 12:28am On Jun 27, 2009
No2Atheism:

@osisi am sorry that u voted for him.

- I do not support either of the candidates neither republican nor democrats , cus they are just the same coin but merely different side of the coin.
- obama was put forward by the NWO controlling the USA (e.g. Geogre Soros and co) because of his exoticness, skin color, anger against the republicans, anger against Bush and all other favourable reasons.
- In all reality there is little difference between Bush and Obama in terms of policy implementation e.g. some of the security and secrecy issues created by bush are still being used by him.
- I am glad that people are starting to wake up to the deception known as Obama.
- The Bankers broke the economy, and then Obama goes ahead to hire the same bankers connected to the scandal to try and fix the same problem created by them (Timothy Giethner and co).
- Bush was a pawn.
- Obama is also a pawn. He is just a black pawn.
- The fact that the state of isreal can call the bluff of the USA President is reason for u to realise that Obama is there is execute some people's programs and not necessarily do things that benefit people.
- yes the original post is a little bit ridiculous at times, but there a slight element of truth to it.
- Africans need to realise that Europeans have never done anything that benefits Africa, their actions are based on ulterior motives and greed towards a longterm benefit for Europe. So long as Africans keep looking to Europe for solutions, we would still continue to be backward, until we iron out our own problems and pick ourselves up just like the Chinese and Japanese (who were also once decimated/dominated by European power at one time or another).
- IRS keeps extorting people and yet they are not even a government institution (yep they are private).
- Federal Reserve has caused 2 markets crashes till date, have benefited from them and yet they also are not a goverment institution (yep they are private)
- The truth is that no party affiliated politician can be trusted, even wen it looks like they are innocent, cus they would never be in their position if they were not team players.
- The best thing and closest thing to having a trusthworthy politician is if the policitian is an independent.
- The solution to debt management is not more debt instead it is less debt, yet here u have Obama and most of the politicans advocating for TARP and other stimulus packages that only the wealthy people actually benefit from and which the poor people and their future generations have to pay for. Yes i have heard people claim that the wealthy pay more tax than the poor, well if u consider that in value yes , but in terms of cash flow, not really, cus the rich have the means to get back wat they paid via other means. Hence while the poor pays the tax and sees it no more , the rich however can still get back a percentage of the tax via cash flow towards him through other areas.

@jesoul

wats ur opinion


  Me I just like to sit back and listen when my elders are talking in here  cheesy but yeah I'm a registered Independent and did not drink the Obama kool aid when it was the PC thing to do. I do actually agree on a lot of the points you make above and you're right to say Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter, left wing or right wing - they're both wings of the same corrupt bird. All the hope and change nonsense . . . lol, politicians are all the same. They have only 2 jobs - 1. Get Elected, 2. Stay Elected.
Re: Obama, The African Colonial by blackspade(m): 2:20am On Jun 27, 2009
After reading that entire article, I only have on thing to say: PARANOID.

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