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|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Myde4naija(m): 3:27pm On Feb 14, 2016|
Rayhut:at one point the Benin people will say oduduwa has no connection with Benin and your own version is even hilarious, all I know is that your people are trying to rewrite your story is good for you anyway.......I still maintain my stand, Benin should stop using OBA because it is purely from Yoruba language.
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|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by tonychristopher: 8:33am On Feb 15, 2016|
Same as edo
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Nobody: 10:50am On Feb 15, 2016|
The same Yoruba obas Tinubu said are useless except for one or two?
The ones who collected bribe from Abacha and sold Abiola?
The same obas who beg for nomination from politicians before they are elected obas? Common !
No Yoruba Oba is worth a toilet paper, anyone one with d right backing and finance can ascend any of the two kobo throne in yooribaa land.
Ya'all claim Oba must get approval from Ife right and ask from who? The kneeling Ooni?
Even AjayiCrowther stated that the origin of Yoorooba is distorted and an identity must be given to those without one. Hence the name Yoruba which is derogotory was adopted from Usman Bello's book.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by bayulll01(m): 12:31pm On Feb 15, 2016|
iPob why don't u face your uselessss over that tie wrapper like a woman round the village,most u comment on Yoruba thread
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 5:26pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:All you have just done is to rant than provide evidence to back up claim that bini lost bastard was Oduduwa!
Since no bini has been able to provide it, then we can all say those are just dog's poo! Same way there haven't been any evidence to show bini was an empire as opposed to the Yorubas cutting across the West to Togo and Benin replublic!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 5:28pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:Still no evidence though!
What a set of clowns!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 5:45pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Diademk07:Ok, show us your evidence.
Your selfie with Lamidi abi na Lamudu, father of Oduduwa.
Some people cannot see beyond their nose because of tribalism.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 6:04pm On Feb 15, 2016|
That shows your historical shallowness.
The first Ogiso of Igodomigodo (old name of Edo/Benin) was Oba-godo, by about 40BC. Among other titles.
There is also poor education system in 9ja that gives very shallow education. Hence the comments some make here lack depth & analysis.
Benin, Yoruba, Igbo, Fon, Ewe, etc are East Kwa/Volta-Benue branch of Niger-Congo language family. Simple philology. No, I'm no philologist or classicist or linguist per se.
In a place with quality education, amidst dissecting bodies, clinics etc, I had enough motivation gain an arts qualification alongside: philosophy, ethics, theology, languages and others covered.
Oba in Edo & Yoruba, and Obi in Igbo is co-incidence. Though in the distant past, Niger-Congo languages come from a proto language with certain words preserved.
Amen in all three languages are similar too: Ise, ase, ise!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 6:24pm On Feb 15, 2016|
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 6:31pm On Feb 15, 2016|
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 6:35pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Areafada2, are all those listed correlated with the Binis? I ask again, show us evidence that Oduduwa was a bini!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 6:37pm On Feb 15, 2016|
My brother, I believed those Egypt theories long ago, not anymore.
What makes it impossible for Egyptians to have migrated from Emure-Ekiti, Afikpo or Gboko?
All these Jews & Egypt story somehow re-enforces our inferiority complex. That any high culture, sophistication, complex government or society couldn't have been developed by we Africans ourselves, right where we are now. That somehow, people brought mythology & others from some distant lands.
No shred of logic in it.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 6:43pm On Feb 15, 2016|
So attire are your evidence, hahahahahaha!
These are no evidence whatsoever.
We developed our cultures right here. That royal insignia happen to bear some resemblance is no evidence whatsoever.
Ododuwa was said to come from Arabia. All these cultures you mentioned were not Arabic.
How does antiquity Egypt suddenly turn Arabic? Egypt was not Arabic until 7th century.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 6:48pm On Feb 15, 2016|
If all these conjecture are your evidence, then you simple know nothing about scientific rigor or scrutiny.
Ancient history, re-enacted at ceremonies, and passed on in songs and stories as a fabric of our culture are far more reliable.
Unless you have radio-carbon dated specimens linking Ododuwa to Arabia, forget it.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 6:50pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:Yoruba are not from Egypt though. However Oduduwa was! He was described as someone knowledgeable, aristocratic and powerful! All these were the reason he was made a ruler and all the influences he left behind could be linked to those in Egypt!
Yeah, we have culture and all but that doesn't negate the fact that oduduwa also influenced some of it! That's our heritage and we are proud of it! Hence, no bini man was made king in Yorubaland! Find your bastard somewhere else!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 7:00pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:Oduduwa wasn't an Arab man! He was supposed to be among the clans fleeing Egypt due to Arab attacks on the Egyptians!
Oduduwa was described as an hamite (the old egyptians) I.e, Tall and fully black and not like the Arab who are semite!
Am I supposed to remind you that the Arabs don't have diplomatic approach on their host than to visit them with attacks and to colonise them? That wasn't the case with Oduduwa!
I repeat find your bini lost bastard somewhere else!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 7:09pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:All these your hogwash doesn't dispute the fact all the influences made by Oduduwa is that of the Egyptian and not bini!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:11pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Oh, Ododuwa is no more Arabic but Egyptian. You prefer your Egyptian bastard instead of local one? Hahahaha.
First, you lack historical perspective of Egypt & Ododuwa.
Do you even know Egyptian Kingdoms & dynasties? Which King started what dynasty? And when? I know you don't.
No, don't go googling it up because anybody can write any rubbish online.
Ododuwa lived in the 12th century AD. That was during Abbasid era. Long long after Egyptian Pharaonic dynasty ended.
Even the foreign Greek/Macedonian one ended in 30BC. Actual indigenous dynasty ended 300 years earlier.
By 12th century, all vestiges of Pharaoh dynasty had been lost.
How did Ododuwa now come into a small village (Ife) mythically from Egypt under Abbasid Muslim Caliphs with Pharaonic pomp & regalia? Over 12 centuries later?
Pride is a very funny thing. It prevents people from re-examining themselves. They put pride over probity. Your pride of being Egyptian founded on inferiority complex is pathetic.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:12pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Year right, flying with a broom from Egypt. I can see why ACN/APC use broom as a symbol.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:16pm On Feb 15, 2016|
This attack happened in which century? Then he passed all the big cities in East Africa and flew with Heli-Odua aircraft to Ife, bah? Dude, get a grip. Copying and pasting conjectures from various ethno-centrists impresses nobody.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 7:18pm On Feb 15, 2016|
State where I said he was an Arabian to begin with!
Bini are towing the ibo lies pathway already!
That being said! Can you provide evidence that shows all the hamites of Egypt had been wiped out and had been replaced by the Semites?
Bini lies are even cringeworthy! No wonder we can't even verify the phantom bini empire today! LOL!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:27pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Chai, Benin's historical influence pains many people o. You know a jealous person will try put you down, like a bully.
Benin Empire is known to educated people. Your ignorance doesn't make it less true.
A freed slave, Olaudah Equiano wrote in the 17th century in London " I'm Ibo by tribe and a citizen of Benin Kingdom". In his Autobiography. I can bet my last penny you don't read such books that might contain any truth.
Benin territory in Eastern Yorubaland is well known. I still have relatives there. But hey, Benin has moved on. We all suffer 9ja problems together today.
@Diadem, I have many of your ilk sparing with me here, even 50 of you cannot impress me.
Each of you coming with different versions of Oduwa, many say Arabic, Jewish, now u say Egyptian. Maybe North Korean or American Indian next time. Keep trying.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 7:29pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:Whether he flew through the moon or not, the basis is he was found in a forest in ife and all the influences left by him were that of the Egypt! Am I to remind you how powerful these men were? These were men that could vaporised into thin air to reappear anywhere!
Have you heard about Sango, the Yoruba ruler born of Nupe's mother? Even Wole Soyinka isn't left out!
Abeg, comot from my face!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:32pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Hahahahaha! After reading this, I give up! No need.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 7:42pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:Ask Wole Soyinka and the OPC na!
Better still come to my Ondo kingdom! You will see a sharp knife cutting through a skin without any wound made or guns shot without any effect on a body! My bunki in Uniben, a bini guy even attested to the fact when he saw what his former neighbours did in their neighbourhood after they came back from a village in Ondo kingdom! He said and I quote "I can't have anything to do with Ondo people, they are too diabolical"
Just come na and you will know say power pass power!
That being said, the reality is still that all Oduduwa's influences were that of an Egyptian and not bini!
Simple as ABC!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:46pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Diademk07:You want to educate me about a place I have some of my roots?
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Nobody: 8:00pm On Feb 15, 2016|
Who among your obas is worth more than toilet paper. Aboki slave!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Diademk07: 8:03pm On Feb 15, 2016|
AreaFada2:You know ogun isoye and others ba?
Don't worry, you would see the villages this time around and we would confirm there and then if all these thing are real or not!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by safeguide: 3:15pm On Feb 16, 2016|
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Tequilah: 4:41pm On Feb 19, 2016|
Bros, you can lie, sha! Who are the Bini people that see Igbo like their family? In which planet did that one happen? Speak for yourself, pls. Bini people do not subscribe to the idea of seeing Igbo like their family.
Thank you, o! The guy who made all those false assertions obviously knows next to nothing about the interaction of Bini and other Edo communities, with the Yoruba people over the past several decades.
Thank God say you sef see am! I don laugh tire, since I heard the ipob boy trying to claim that Bini people regard the Igbo as their family. LWKMD!
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Tequilah: 4:45pm On Feb 19, 2016|
The guy you are responding to is not even Bini. He is an an Ipod chap.
|Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by safeguide: 9:11am On Feb 20, 2016|
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