blueAgent:


So you will kill to protect yourself? hypocrite

So your God would kill to protect himself? Are you telling me your God kill to protect himself. Who want to kill your God? You gave an example about how your God kill to protect himself. You're giving me an example about a man protecting himself from robbers. How does this your example explain my questions? Why do your all powerful God gave Bible full of contradictions?

analice107:

LOL. That is the doctrine of the OMEGA FAITH. The New Age Religion.
Maybe you shd show where you give us a verse to hold on to. because my Bible tells me that;
Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him with which he deceived them that had received the MARK OF THE BEAST, and THE THAT WORSHIPPED HIS IMAGE. these were both cast ALIVE into the LAKE OF FIRE. burning with brimstone.

Rev20:10, And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.
Preach any kind of message, on that day, if your name is not found written in the book of life, you will go to Hellfire.
Nobody will send you there. You will go there on your own, because your name is not found where it shd be.

I Laugh! you allow people to read and understand the bible for you.

pls click and read this.



www. amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/30/t/hellfire-a-twisted-truth-untangled

seggzz:

So your God would kill to protect himself? Are you telling me your God kill to protect himself. Who want to kill your God? You gave an example about how your God kill to protect himself. You're giving me an example about a man protecting himself from robbers. How does this your example explain my questions? Why do your all powerful God gave Bible full of contradictions?

You are gulliable. i never said God will kill to protect himself. if i should ask you .who should he protect himself from? none
you dodged to answer my question .i need yes or no answer.
If you feel their are situtions that justify you to take a life which u don't know how it was made. then God himself has his own good reasons to kill those people .after all he is their maker .answer my questions and stop been a coward

seggzz:

So your God would kill to protect himself? Are you telling me your God kill to protect himself. Who want to kill your God? You gave an example about how your God kill to protect himself. You're giving me an example about a man protecting himself from robbers. How does this your example explain my questions? Why do your all powerful God gave Bible full of contradictions?

Go and look in the mirror before you accuse religeon or christainity of committing atrocites.
Apetheist have committed the most murders in this world history. go check it out than we can talk.

www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atrocities.html

seggzz:

You have not answered any of my questions. What made you think you have answered my question. You asked me of a case of robbers planning to kill you. And you have the chance to kill them will you not kill them? Is this not your question? If I can understand you, killing is permitted to defend yourself. Killing is killing no matter your intention. Are you saying there is holy killing? Or white lie?

"It is not for your righteousness or for the
uprightness of your heart that you are going
to possess their land, but it is because of the
wickedness of these nations that the LORD
your God is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the LORD
swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob. ( Deuteronomy 9:5)
Okay, how "wicked" could those people have
been? How about killing their own sons and
daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their
gods:
"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD
your God, for every abominable act which
the LORD hates they have done for their
gods; for they even burn their sons and
daughters in the fire to their gods.
( Deuteronomy 12:31)
The wickedness of these people is confirmed in
other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these
people are not quite as innocent as the atheists
would like you to believe. The fact that these
people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed
in the secular writings of the Greeks.4 Then again,
maybe those atheists believe that killing your
children is not all bad. After all, killing viable pre-
born babies is legal in this country (it's called a
choice, a.k.a. abortion). For these reasons (and
others5), God ordered the destruction of the
peoples whom the Israelites dispossessed.
Did God kill any innocent people along with the
evil ones? When God was about to destroy the
cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked
God if He would destroy the cities if there were
50 righteous people in them.6 God said no. Then
Abraham asked the same question if there were
45 righteous people. Every time he dropped the
number and got the same answer. The fact is that
God would not have destroyed those cities if
there were any righteous people in them. The few
righteous who were in those cities He warned
ahead of time to get out.7 So, God does not
destroy the righteous along with the evil.
God's judgment of people groups found in the
Old Testament actually pales in comparison to
the judgment He will render at the end of time.
According to the New Testament Book of
Revelation, God will judge and kill billions of
people who reject Him when Jesus returns,
including 200 million killed in a single battle.8
Such large armies have never existed in the
history of mankind until the last 100 years,
suggesting the this judgment could come at any
time.

blueAgent:



You are gulliable. i never said God will kill to protect himself. if i should ask you .who should he protect himself from? none
you dodged to answer my question .i need yes or no answer.
If you feel their are situtions that justify you to take a life which u don't know how it was made. then God himself has his own good reasons to kill those people .after all he is their maker .answer my questions and stop been a coward

I think now you agreed that God kill. Do you also agree your God also lie? There is no morality in any form for killing humans. Especially when you yourself disobey the law.

Do you know human government in Nigeria prohibited punishment by death? Can you prove if the Bible God created the humans.

blueAgent:






"It is not for your righteousness or for the
uprightness of your heart that you are going
to possess their land, but it is because of the
wickedness of these nations that the LORD
your God is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the LORD
swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob. ( Deuteronomy 9:5)
Okay, how "wicked" could those people have
been? How about killing their own sons and
daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their
gods:
"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD
your God, for every abominable act which
the LORD hates they have done for their
gods; for they even burn their sons and
daughters in the fire to their gods.
( Deuteronomy 12:31)
The wickedness of these people is confirmed in
other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these
people are not quite as innocent as the atheists
would like you to believe. The fact that these
people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed
in the secular writings of the Greeks.4 Then again,
maybe those atheists believe that killing your
children is not all bad. After all, killing viable pre-
born babies is legal in this country (it's called a
choice, a.k.a. abortion). For these reasons (and
others5), God ordered the destruction of the
peoples whom the Israelites dispossessed.
Did God kill any innocent people along with the
evil ones? When God was about to destroy the
cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked
God if He would destroy the cities if there were
50 righteous people in them.6 God said no. Then
Abraham asked the same question if there were
45 righteous people. Every time he dropped the
number and got the same answer. The fact is that
God would not have destroyed those cities if
there were any righteous people in them. The few
righteous who were in those cities He warned
ahead of time to get out.7 So, God does not
destroy the righteous along with the evil.
God's judgment of people groups found in the
Old Testament actually pales in comparison to
the judgment He will render at the end of time.
According to the New Testament Book of
Revelation, God will judge and kill billions of
people who reject Him when Jesus returns,
including 200 million killed in a single battle.8
Such large armies have never existed in the
history of mankind until the last 100 years,
suggesting the this judgment could come at any
time.

What can you say about a man who stole 200 naira to eat? This stealing is for a cause. It is either justify by his thoughts or not but the acts is STEALING. Your God kill for some many reasons as you said but what we see there is KILLING. YOUR GOD DO EVIL FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM.

blueAgent:


Go and look in the mirror before you accuse religeon or christainity of committing atrocites.
Apetheist have committed the most murders in this world history. go check it out than we can talk.

www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atrocities.html

The highest number of killings is done by religion. Check and Google the facts.

seggzz:


The highest number of killings is done by religion. Check and Google the facts.

i have done that already and given you the unbiased fact / link.

seggzz:

What can you say about a man who stole 200 naira to eat? This stealing is for a cause. It is either justify by his thoughts or not but the acts is STEALING. Your God kill for some many reasons as you said but what we see there is KILLING. YOUR GOD DO EVIL FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM.

Stealing to eat .is still Sin and wrong. God destoryed those people becos they were unrightous and God is a holy God.
I guess U wanted God to be weak and so lovely that he can not carry out Justice.
You forgot that true love will always correct and reprove.

in Genesis 15:16
God told Abraham that his decendants will be slaves in a foreign land becos the land which he wanted to give them was inhabitted by the Amorites who were very sinful. but God told Abraham that him(God) will allow the Childeren of Isreal to spend 430 yrs in exile , waiting for the Amorites to change or repent. which they did not. so God warns and forgives those who repents.
see the bible verses

New International Version
In the fourth generation your descendants will
come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure."

New Living Translation
After four generations your descendants will
return here to this land, for the sins of the
Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction."

English Standard Version
And they shall come back here in the fourth
generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is
not yet complete.”

New American Standard Bible
"Then in the fourth generation they will return
here, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet
complete."

King James Bible
But in the fourth generation they shall come
hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is
not yet full.

seggzz:

I think now you agreed that God kill. Do you also agree your God also lie? There is no morality in any form for killing humans. Especially when you yourself disobey the law.

Do you know human government in Nigeria prohibited punishment by death? Can you prove if the Bible God created the humans.

That 's why i asked you .personally to answer yes or no. would you kill or be killed .

seggzz:

I think now you agreed that God kill. Do you also agree your God also lie? There is no morality in any form for killing humans. Especially when you yourself disobey the law.

Do you know human government in Nigeria prohibited punishment by death? Can you prove if the Bible God created the humans.

That 's why i asked you .personally to answer yes or no. would you kill or be killed .?

seggzz:

What can you say about a man who stole 200 naira to eat? This stealing is for a cause. It is either justify by his thoughts or not but the acts is STEALING. Your God kill for some many reasons as you said but what we see there is KILLING. YOUR GOD DO EVIL FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM.

The same way God warned Nineveh's. by sending Jonah.
Jonah’s Preaching and Nineveh’s Repentance
(3:1-9)
and God himself decieded not to destory them after they repented of Their Sins.

blueAgent:


Stealing to eat .is still Sin and wrong. God destoryed those people becos they were unrightous and God is a holy God.
I guess U wanted God to be weak and so lovely that he can not carry out Justice.
You forgot that true love will always correct and reprove.

in Genesis 15:16
God told Abraham that his decendants will be slaves in a foreign land becos the land which he wanted to give them was inhabitted by the Amorites who were very sinful. but God told Abraham that him(God) will allow the Childeren of Isreal to spend 430 yrs in exile , waiting for the Amorites to change or repent. which they did not. so God warns and forgives those who repents.
see the bible verses

New International Version
In the fourth generation your descendants will
come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure."

New Living Translation
After four generations your descendants will
return here to this land, for the sins of the
Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction."

English Standard Version
And they shall come back here in the fourth
generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is
not yet complete.”

New American Standard Bible
"Then in the fourth generation they will return
here, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet
complete."

King James Bible
But in the fourth generation they shall come
hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is
not yet full.

I can see you have accepted the following facts;
(1). Your Bible God KILLS though you said he killed because they were sinners.

(2). He LIED because of reasons known to him.

(3). he sent Bible full of contradictions to you.

(4). He allowed the captured of slaves.

(5). He kills(destroyed) because he made MISTAKES. **emphasizing on no (1).** The all powerful and perfect God making mistakes or regretting?



And if you don't know about the above, it means you don't know the Bible. Do actually agree with me for the above?

seggzz:

What can you say about a man who stole 200 naira to eat? This stealing is for a cause. It is either justify by his thoughts or not but the acts is STEALING. Your God kill for some many reasons as you said but what we see there is KILLING. YOUR GOD DO EVIL FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM.

The same way God warned Nineveh's. by sending Jonah.
Jonah’s Preaching and Nineveh’s Repentance
(3:1-9)
and God himself decieded not to destory them after they repented of Their Sins.

even Sodom and Gormorah .God himself came down to earth to see for himself. the sin and inquity of the people. before he destoryed them. mem practised incest , homosexuality, and other abanomiable acts.

The Lord knew that Abraham was concerned
about Sodom for personal
reasons: Lot lived there. So when the two men
turned to go to Sodom,
Abraham stood before the Lord to pray. Abraham,
God's friend, knew how
to pray to the Lord. His prayer was not based on
his own worth or
goodness. He said, "I am nothing but dust and
ashes." His prayer was
based on the righteousness of God. He said, "The
Lord is the Judge of
the earth who will surely do what is right." The
word "righteous" or
"right" is found here at least 7 times, and it is
implied many more
times.
Although God did not say in so many words that
he was going to
destroy Sodom, Abraham knew what he would
surely do. And, although
Abraham did not mention Lot in his prayer, God
knew Abraham's shepherd
heart and why he prayed so earnestly. Finally,
God agreed to spare
Sodom if as many as ten righteous men could be
found in the city.
3. The destruction of Sodom (19)
Lot lived in Sodom. He was called a righteous
man (perhaps by
comparison with the people of his times!) (2Pe
2:7,. God had agreed
to spare Sodom for the sake of ten righteous
men, and Lot was one. This
chapter clearly shows us that there were no
others.
The two angels arrived in Sodom in the evening.
They met Lot, who
was sitting in the gateway of the city. He was
sitting by himself,
apart from the other men of the city. When he
saw the strangers, he got
up to meet them. He recognized them as godly
men and he invited them to
his home to spend the night. They had readily
accepted Abraham's
invitation, but they hesitated to accept Lot's. They
sensed that his
invitation came from a sense of duty. He insisted,
however, and they
went with him. Lot prepared for them a simple
supper of unleaven
bread, but no one in his family helped him;
apparently his wife and
daughters were out--or otherwise occupied.
That night, all the men of the city came to Lot's
house to demand
that he turn the strangers over to them. They
wanted to sexually abuse
them. Lot tried to compromise by offering his
daughters instead, but he
was despised and berated as an alien and judge,
and they tried to grab
him. The angels rescued him.
Lot had come to Sodom to enjoy its material
advantages--he had not
come as a missionary. So he had no sheep and
no friends. Even his
sons-in-law-to-be laughed at him. He had tried to
live a moral life,
and he had succeeded to some extent, but when
he tried to protect his
guests from the evil men of Sodom, he exposed
his own corrupted and
compromised heart and life by offering to give
them his daughters
instead. There were not even 10 righteous men in
Sodom because Lot had
not tried to make friends for God. He had lived
there like a Pharisee,
keeping himself pure and looking with contempt
on the unrighteous
people around him. But the cultural diseases of
city life had deeply
infected him. Even when God's servants told him
that God would destroy
Sodom, he was loath to leave. His wife couldn't
bear to leave her nice
home and convenient kitchen and bathroom, so
she looked back and was
turned into a lump of salt. His daughters became
thorough-going
Sodomites. In order to solve their marriage
problems and be "like
everyone else" they committed incest with their
father and gave birth
to sons, bad seed, who later became enemies of
God's people.

so God pleads and warns people before he destroys them

seggzz:

I think now you agreed that God kill. Do you also agree your God also lie? There is no morality in any form for killing humans. Especially when you yourself disobey the law.

Do you know human government in Nigeria prohibited punishment by death? Can you prove if the Bible God created the humans.

That 's why i asked you .personally to answer yes or no. would you kill or be killed .?

If not God who else.made the Universe?

blueAgent:


That 's why i asked you .personally to answer yes or no. would you kill or be killed .?

Which brought about the word, "would you kill or be killed"?

Who brought evil and suffering to the world? God is the creator of everything as you said. Who created the jealousy thoughts in Satan? That is if you mentioned Satan.

Gr8Adedayo:
by the mercy of Jesus christ, you will not know about the reality of hell after your demise. May God have mercy on you and me too. Hell is real, run for your life, heaven is real, strive to enter. Shalom!

My father is the owner of United States of America, and I can take you to the white house. Just PM and all your problems will be solved!

Did I sound ridiculous? That is how you just sounded.

How do you know heaven is real and hell is real?

blueAgent:


The same way God warned Nineveh's. by sending Jonah.
Jonah’s Preaching and Nineveh’s Repentance
(3:1-9)
and God himself decieded not to destory them after they repented of Their Sins.

Do you think that if a man commits a crime that killing his infant, especially by smashing the child's head against a rock is justified?

seggzz:

Which brought about the word, "would you kill or be killed"?

Who brought evil and suffering to the world? God is the creator of everything as you said. Who created the jealousy thoughts in Satan? That is if you mentioned Satan.

Lol....guy You are sick. go get a brain doctor. u sound depressed.

blueAgent:


Lol....guy You are sick. go get a brain doctor. u sound depressed.

Are you saying my point is the the fact? I know this insult is not for me. Does the insult you typed here has a reason? I'm surprised that God has put insults spirit to you like as he put lying spirit into his prophets(lol). Is this the only way you can defend your points? Through insults? The verses you gave are either Contradicting themselves or supporting God crimes. For example, you gave the destruction(killing) of Sodom and Gomorrah. Don't give me insults!!! Give me facts. Address my questions one by one. Don't defend your God wrongly.

seggzz:

Are you saying my point is the the fact? I know this insult is not for me. Does the insult you typed here has a reason? I'm surprised that God has put insults spirit to you like as he put lying spirit into his prophets(lol). Is this the only way you can defend your points? Through insults? The verses you gave are either Contradicting themselves or supporting God crimes. For example, you gave the destruction(killing) of Sodom and Gomorrah. Don't give me insults!!! Give me facts. Address my questions one by one. Don't defend your God wrongly.

You are sick. i have defended all your points and you keep insisting on your blind argument. what facts? that God should not punish people who offend him. but you can or is that God allowed a false spirit of lie to decieve someone who wanted to be decieved .

Note
Ecclesiastes 8:11 - When a crime is not
punished quickly, people feel it is safe
to do wrong.

Go and read the book of Jonah 1:1-end

seggzz:

Which brought about the word, "would you kill or be killed"?

Who brought evil and suffering to the world? God is the creator of everything as you said. Who created the jealousy thoughts in Satan? That is if you mentioned Satan.

God gave all his living creations freewill to choose between good or bad.
and that's why you have the capacity to make this argument. it is your freewill or are you compelled by God?

seggzz:

I can see you have accepted the following facts;
(1). Your Bible God KILLS though you said he killed because they were sinners.

(2). He LIED because of reasons known to him.

(3). he sent Bible full of contradictions to you.

(4). He allowed the captured of slaves.

(5). He kills(destroyed) because he made MISTAKES. **emphasizing on no (1).** The all powerful and perfect God making mistakes or regretting?



And if you don't know about the above, it means you don't know the Bible. Do actually agree with me for the above?

Explian to me how U and this world came into existenence

blueAgent:


God gave all his living creations freewill to choose between good or bad.
and that's why you have the capacity to make this argument. it is your freewill or are you compelled by God?

That's what I have been telling you. Your God created FREE WILL and still want to punish us for the way he wants us to think, ehn? Your God broke the law and still punish others who broke the law like him. Is it not injustice?

For example, would you like it if a corrupt one punish your father for just lying. Whereas it's globally known that this corrupt one is a serial killer. And he just hanged or roast your father for just lying, will you like it?

Another example, you're a father and you allow your child to take either dollar(bad) currency or naira(good) currency, FREE WILL. And your daughter decided to take the dollar currency. Has she committed any sin for taking what you presented to her? Will you roast your daughter in fire for taking such decision? A kind and merciful father would not punish his children for this reason.

blueAgent:


Explian to me how U and this world came into existenence

Was your Bible God created? Tell me, who created your Bible God?


If you answer these questions then I will give you a logical answer about the existence of the universe.

blueAgent:



You are sick. i have defended all your points and you keep insisting on your blind argument. what facts? that God should not punish people who offend him. but you can or is that God allowed a false spirit of lie to decieve someone who wanted to be decieved .

Note
Ecclesiastes 8:11 - When a crime is not
punished quickly, people feel it is safe
to do wrong.

Go and read the book of Jonah 1:1-end

You haven't defended my points logically and correctly. Do you agree that your Bible God put lying spirit in his prophets? There your God LIED.

You said I should read the book of Jonah. The following are my observational questions;

(1). Does God repent?
"And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and GOD REPENTED OF THE EVIL, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not"-Jonah:3:10

(2). Who casted Jonah into the sea, sailors or God?

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seggzz:

You haven't defended my points logically and correctly. Do you agree that your Bible God put lying spirit in his prophets? There your God LIED.

You said I should read the book of Jonah. The following are my observational questions;

(1). Does God repent?
"And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and GOD REPENTED OF THE EVIL, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not"-Jonah:3:10

(2). Who casted Jonah into the sea, sailors or God?

I have told you before you have low IQ and understanding. if you can not use your discrection to know that . the repent in God's case is not becos God has sin . but means deep regret or dissappiontment .please this is not an insult.
God casted jonah into the water by causing the storm. and so?
You sound like God is owing you.

seggzz:

Was your Bible God created? Tell me, who created your Bible God?


If you answer these questions then I will give you a logical answer about the existence of the universe.

No . he is the begining and the end. The Alpha and Omega. their is no begining without him.

seggzz:

That's what I have been telling you. Your God created FREE WILL and still want to punish us for the way he wants us to think, ehn? Your God broke the law and still punish others who broke the law like him. Is it not injustice?

For example, would you like it if a corrupt one punish your father for just lying. Whereas it's globally known that this corrupt one is a serial killer. And he just hanged or roast your father for just lying, will you like it?

Another example, you're a father and you allow your child to take either dollar(bad) currency or naira(good) currency, FREE WILL. And your daughter decided to take the dollar currency. Has she committed any sin for taking what you presented to her? Will you roast your daughter in fire for taking such decision? A kind and merciful father would not punish his children for this reason.

I am talking to a kid? You forget that every chioce has consequences. The wages of Sin in death .even the grass in heaven knowns that.

you can make a chioce to touch a live electric wire with bare hands or you can choose to wear gloves. but either way you bear the consquences. so you see without consequences chioce will not exist in the first place.

analice107:

LOL. That is the doctrine of the OMEGA FAITH. The New Age Religion.
Maybe you shd show where you give us a verse to hold on to. because my Bible tells me that;
Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him with which he deceived them that had received the MARK OF THE BEAST, and THE THAT WORSHIPPED HIS IMAGE. these were both cast ALIVE into the LAKE OF FIRE. burning with brimstone.

Rev20:10, And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.
Preach any kind of message, on that day, if your name is not found written in the book of life, you will go to Hellfire.
Nobody will send you there. You will go there on your own, because your name is not found where it shd be.

Have you read the site i gave to you.