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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Tochaigh: 3:03pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Eruditor: If you are not related to her, then you her insane. Driving under the influence and killing someone in the process should receive at least a 15yrs jail term. |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 3:18pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
What do you mean do not castigate her. She must be severely castigated and warned. The death of this man was 100% completely avoidable. Nobody forced her to drink. She was drunk and CHOSE to get behind the wheel of a car and drive. She was negligent and caused the death of an innocent man. This can not happen to anyone. People with decency and maturity would have known to either hail a taxi or allow someone sober to drive. To top it all off after she killed the man she fled the scene. She has not taken accountability for her actions. Don't make excusesfor this woman and say she is allowed to be human? What nonsense. She killed a human being. We must value human life. She must be held accountable for her actions. marycool18: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 3:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Are you OK in the head? You are calling her a victim? Because the law is being applied correctly? This woman drank herself to a stupor and killed an innocent man. She must pay the consequence of her action. The law says she should be punished in jail for 5 years GOOD FOR HER Her children aren't losing thier mother. She is still alive. After serving her time she will come back home and hopefully behave more responsibly. They have the option of visiting her in prison. How can you consider a fine the equivalent of a human life. She robbed a family of thier son, husband, brother, father. He will never be able to live his life again. Her being locked away from society for 5 years is barely justice. She has shown no remorse for her actions publicly that is acceptable. This man's death was 100% avoidable. Had ibinabo gotten a taxi that night or allowed a sober person to drive he would still be alive. Stop making excuses for a killer. Eruditor: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 3:43pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Actually, eyewitness reports claim that ibinabo not only fled the scene of the crime but also took with her the particulars of the car. She tried to remove evidence that would implicate her. The car she was driving did not belong to her, but a friend. In her mind if she left the particulars there the police would track down her friend who would then implicate her. So she killed someone and then ran away. She is disgusting. And the family of the victim also claim ibinabo has never to this day apologized to them face to face for her actions. She is a public figure, that is the position she has chosen for herself. She should have made a statement accepting responsibility for her actions. She should be the damn spokesperson against drinking and driving and it's dangers. BUT no instead she's carrying on as if she didn't stupidly cause the death of an innocent man. Please stop defending her. Because there is no argument you can give that makes sense. There is no sympathy for ibinabo here. If she accidentally killed this man while sober and driving reasonably responsible then a case could be made in her defense. That is not the case here. The law is the law. She is legally and morally responsible here. Emotion aside. Her actions led to the death of someone and based on eyewitness and family testimony her behaviour after the incident shows a lack of remorse and respect. Eruditor: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Tbamo(m): 4:00pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Eruditor: points to consider 1. she was drunk 2. she was driving against traffic 3. she tampered with evidence by removing documents from the car 4. your claim that the family's needs are not taking into consideration is wrong 5. brandy was not drunk and was not breaking any traffic laws 6. in the West DUIs are no longer placed under involuntary manslaughter, they are either voluntary o culpable homicides 7. the lagos AG has every right to seek further redress ( the case of the south African legless sprinter comes to mind) 8. we all know 100k as the initial punishment was a slap on the wrist 9. there are no provisions for fines for any form of manslaughter in the constitution 10. Based on the facts she should have been fined what she would have earned in a five year duration and with what we are hearing should run into millions even( if a fine was allowed) her pride also got the better of her. If she had appealed to the family earlier on they would have put in a word. that usually sways courts but even th family is pissed 4 Likes |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 4:09pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Brandy didn't go to jail because after the investigation was conducted she was not found at fault. She was not intoxicated or under the influence of drugs. They accident involved about 5 other cars. The victim of the crash was discovered to have braked quickly after rear ending the car in front of her which did not give Brandy ample time to react accordingly. So she rear ended her car. The victims car was pushed into oncoming trafic and a bunch of other cars were involved. The report is public so you can go and read it yourself. Her car was going at 65miles an hour. You can not compare the two cases. Brandy was not negligent. But she has a heart. She knew the value of a life and even though no criminal cases were charged against her due to insufficient evidence the family of the dead woman chose to sue her civilly. Most likely because out of the 5 cars involved she was the richest and most prominent. If she took it to court she would have won. There are cameras on the highway and eyewitness reports. The district attorney chose not to file because there was no case. Brandy has a heart and knows the value of a human life. She chose to settle the family out of court and compensated them monetarily. Even though she was not at fault for the death of the woman. She acknowledged that the accident took place and someone died, others were injured. In ibinabo case it is evident she was at fault. The sentence is coming late because she refused to accept her sentence and kept appealing. Had she done her time when the initial 5 years was given she would have completed it by now Eruditor: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 4:10pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Brandy didn't go to jail because after the investigation was conducted she was not found at fault. She was not intoxicated or under the influence of drugs. They accident involved about 5 other cars. The victim of the crash was discovered to have braked quickly after rear ending the car in front of her which did not give Brandy ample time to react accordingly. So she rear ended her car. The victims car was pushed into oncoming trafic and a bunch of other cars were involved. The report is public so you can go and read it yourself. Her car was going at 65miles an hour. You can not compare the two cases. Brandy was not negligent. But she has a heart. She knew the value of a life and even though no criminal cases were charged against her due to insufficient evidence the family of the dead woman chose to sue her civilly. Most likely because out of the 5 cars involved she was the richest and most prominent. If she took it to court she would have won. There are cameras on the highway and eyewitness reports. The district attorney chose not to file because there was no case. Brandy has a heart and knows the value of a human life. She chose to settle the family out of court and compensated them monetarily. Even though she was not at fault for the death of the woman. She acknowledged that the accident took place and someone died, others were injured. In ibinabos case it is evident she was at fault. The sentence is coming late because she refused to accept her sentence and kept appealing. Had she done her time when the initial 5 years was given she would have completed it by now Eruditor: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 4:15pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Why are you so steaddast in your ignorance here.nkbody is on your side. Sit down and think about it man. A man is dead and you're saying she should be considered? Are you kidding me. 5 years is a soft jusgement for someone who murdered an innocent human being. What are you saying. If she did her time when the initial 5 year judgement was given she woukd have been out by now Eruditor: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by naheem8307(m): 4:35pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
dammytosh: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Chuksyno(m): 5:05pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Souljeezy:oboy you funny die but you get time o |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by trappatoni(m): 5:05pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Joygalore:that's the most annoying part, she even got drunk again at the AMVCA. SHE' S NOT JUST TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER ACTIONS. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by aribisala0(m): 7:48pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Eruditor:The law often can be a Mechanical tool. It is called Mandatory Sentencing Tariff. Where a Mandatory Tariff is set the trial judge has NO DISCRETION whatsoever. This case therefore is important for several reasons even beyond the subject here. The appeal court has helped affirm that absence of or LIMITS TO discretion as a principle of our Jurisprudence and so one can be certain that this case will be cited often in that regard. I hope she takes the matter to the Supreme Court so that that particular point of jurisprudence is "settled". Unfortunately for her it does not appear that her lawyers appealed the guilty verdict and she indeed accepted it and paid the fine.That was a mistake. A very big one indeed. I do not know if it is too late to do that now but that should have been the focus of her team. I suspect it may be as she PAID THE FINE With regard to the actual tariff the Magistrate had no power to issue a fine and that has been overturned ,rightly in my view,by the higher court. The actual sentence of 5 years seems harsh particularly in Nigeria where people get away with such things virtually daily and so I Can only take a spiritual /deterministic view . I do not think she set out to kill anyone but the law takes a very dim view of criminally negligent behaviour in general and uses a form of words like "Reckless or heedless as to the consequences" of one's actions to capture scenarios where there is no malicious intent but merely a "lack of due care or concern". The following scenarios would be considered in the UK as having a HIGHER LEVEL of culpability attracting very severe fines between 4-7 years 1. Driving impaired by PRESCRIBED MEDICATION KNOWN to cause sedation 2. Attention distracted e.g by use of mobile phone 3. Driving when knowingly suffering from medical condition which impairs skills 4. Failure to adequately maintain vehicle Other factors taken into consideration are Irresponsible behaviour at time offence (n) behaviour at the time of the offence, such as failing to stop, falsely claiming that one of the victims was responsible for the crash, or trying to throw the victim off the bonnet of the car by swerving in order to escape (o) causing death in the course of dangerous driving in an attempt to avoid detection or apprehension (p) offence committed while the offender was on bail.’ The list of aggravating factors was followed by one of mitigating factors, as follows: ‘(a) a good driving record; (b) the absence of previous convictions; (c) a timely plea of guilty; (d) genuine shock or remorse (which may be greater if the victim is either a close relation or a friend); (e) the offender's age (but only in cases where lack of driving experience has contributed to the commission of the offence), and (f) the fact that the offender has also been seriously injured as a result of the accident caused by the dangerous driving. Those with technical interest can see Regina V Cooksley and also related sentencing guidelines http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/death_by_dangerous_driving/ |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by fortune1968: 8:29pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
all convicted armed robbers,murderers, thieves have also learnt their lesson and let prisons doors be thrown open ! silly idea ! 5 years is too small for the recless woman ,left to me ,20 years imprisonment ! |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 9:17pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
I agree with you and dammytosh. This should serve as a lesson to the so called yeyebrities who think they are demi gods and can get away with anything....they should keep in mind that GEJ's tenure is over. newgroom: 2 Likes |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by jamjo: 9:42pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
newgroom: I don't know this lady in person and will not judge her , But i hope the authority will not let this lady out . Until we Nigerians understand that no one is above the law and DUI a serious .. |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by fieldmarshal001(m): 11:02pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Eruditor:can you compare losing a loved one till eternity to just not seeing a loved one always as it used to be but will definitely see that loved one back again after a while? Pls be sincere. She's only going for 5 years during which her family has the priviledge of visiting her regularly but can the doctors family do the same? |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by PweshyNonny: 11:41pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Styms I read d comments pple make n begin to wonder, r dis guys reali human beings? C dem all comin to judge s1 4 a murder she committed unintentionally. Niggas whether or not she killed d man, d man was destined to die dat day. Dis happnd 11yrs ago 4 pit sake nt yesterday. It's an accident mehn nt a murder case infact. U guys yan as if she murdered d man in a cold blood 4gettting dat we all kill pple n ain't judged. D earlier pple here start acting lyk literates d beta 4 us all. |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by PweshyNonny: 11:42pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
fieldmarshal001:. Are u reali sure u went to skul @ all? |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by kazman117: 4:09am On Mar 13, 2016 |
irunooboo:Under his shoe |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by kazman117: 4:14am On Mar 13, 2016 |
PweshyNonny:Go n read d story 4rm begining. Actually d killing was unintentional bt is an offence 2 drive under d influence of alcohol and dere is penalTy 4 dat |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by dantedante: 6:04am On Mar 13, 2016 |
President Buhari is on a revenge mission on those actors and actresses that were paid to campaign for Goodluck |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by fieldmarshal001(m): 7:08am On Mar 13, 2016 |
PweshyNonny:now I know I'm talking to an educated illiterate. My bad. |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Bigchief46(m): 11:30am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Eruditor:I am late to comment because I did not want to comment; reason being that I don't usually comment on legal issues when I don't have all the facts of a matter as what you get in the media is sometimes unreliable or out rightly false. I would however like to just say this: your reference to a burst tire shows you don't appreciate the issues. If she had a burst tire that led to an accident from which someone died; she won't be found guilty of manslaughter in the first place unless she was speeding excessively to the point that a burst tire would inevitably lead to the car swerving off to another lane or summersaulting. As you know, not all bust tires lead to swerves, etc. The point is that manslaughter connotes some form of negligence (such as DUI). To give an example: if I shoot my gate man with my pistol because I caught him on top of my wife, that is murder. If I accidentally shoot my gateman while trying to clean my pistol because I did not take the precaution of first putting the safety on & removing any bullet in the chamber, then that is manslaughter. Even if there is no DUI involved but only excessive speeding for instance or breaching traffick lights which leads to an accident from which death results, it is still manslaughter. I have not taken the time to look at the Criminal Code (which is at the office while I am home this Sunday) but if it is true, as some say, that the punishment for the offense is five years without option of fine; the the Appellate Court is right to set aside the sentencing by the trial Court and in its place impose the penalty prescribed by Statute |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Memejem: 2:21pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
You are a very ignorant person. She killed someone unintentionally which is called manslaughter. She knew the risks of driving while intoxicated and it resulted in his death. It is a crime that any reasonable person would not have committed. She was recklessly. The reason it's taking to long is that she continues todelay and refuses to accept her sentencing to go to jail. Had she accepted she would have been out of jail 6 years ago. Nobody is above the law. She killed someone and should pay for it. You have no respect for human life. I bet you when they find a politician that has stolen billions of naira from the Nigerian public you will also stand and argue that his sentence j jail for corruption is unjust. People with your mentality is why nigeria is a laughingstock to all civilized countries. You won't allow for the law to reign. PweshyNonny: |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 10:50am On Mar 16, 2016 |
Eruditor: In case you are trained to read good and lengthy write-ups, please do http://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2016/03/exclusive-sister-of-late-doctor-killed.html#more |
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by yetdam4ril: 9:05pm On Mar 26, 2016 |
Trash upon trashes, go get brain abeg Emotive trash. You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day? Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him? So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum? I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy? The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing. She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.[/quote] |
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