₦airaland Forum

aswani:
Phillip Effiong is not part of your Biafra, rumour has it that he is the one that did the surrender because it would have looked bad if an Ndigbo did it.

Effiong and his people never got a referendum to see if they wanted to be part of Biafra. All the celebrations they showed when the Nigerian Army chased the Biafran army out of their towns and cities suggests they were forcefully co-opted into a madcap Ndigbo project.

Ndigbo Biafrans dare not try it on his people nowadays.

Also, Ndigbo were not massacred by Ndi Yoruba at any time. They were welcome back with open arms and their monies restored in Ala Yoruba.

Behave yourself with the rewriting of history.

Badassniggga:
As in ehn, it was the coup forced us apart and sowed this seed of distrust amongst us.

For country polarized and made up of different ethnic groups, everything has to be done with fairness to EVERYONE otherwise some groups will find it difficult to accept resulting outcomes.

All the coup plotters needed to do was to take out Azikiwe and others from East as well for the coup to seen as "FAIR" against corruption that has no tribe. But juveniles like Ifeajunana ruined it by letting Azikiwe and others from his side breathe because they were from his "TRIBE"

zero8zero:
So, a six year old would forget a brutal murder of a family member or a fearsome incident that happened several years ago?.
A six year old of today will lose his memory in 60 year's time?. So, you are so dumb that you can't recall any events when you were six years old?

Godwin4444:
because the agreement was to pave way for an Igbo n we had aguiyi ironsi

richie240:
Hehehehe when e favour una, una go say ss igbós are igbós, but when e nor favour una una go reject them.

The present 'king' of igbós, (ohaneze), where is he from biko?

stuffs2002:
First of all, I do not dread the Fulani
Second, SE have never been smart nor intelligent in their actions because they are controlled by their emotions and hate
Thirdly, Igbos would be very very very mad to attack the British. Even you sef your brain dey leak to think Igbos would have taken on the British
Lastly, your attempt at changing history is not just lame but laughable.

codemaniacs:
the coup did not fail..

the coup plotters only allowed a senior igbo military officer called ironsi take over..

and ironsi could have released Awolowo in the 6 months he ruled for if the lie that Awolowo was the reason for the coup was true.. because i:gbos have herd mentality just like the obi:dient movement that made them focus on 1 goal.

the goal of the coup was to stop igbos from losing federal jobs the british gave them.

codemaniacs:
the coup did not fail..

the coup plotters only allowed a senior igbo military officer called ironsi take over..

and ironsi could have released Awolowo in the 6 months he ruled for if the lie that Awolowo was the reason for the coup was true.. because i:gbos have herd mentality just like the obi:dient movement that made them focus on 1 goal.

the goal of the coup was to stop igbos from losing federal jobs the british gave them.

codemaniacs:
if I inform you that people are coming to kill your parents would you stand and watch them kill your parents?

casualobserver:
And what is the relevance of what you just wrote?

zero8zero:
Your usual line of domination, when did SS tell you they're one with you?. After telling you so many times that they're not the same with igbos, better respect yourself.

flokii:
It's common knowledge that Yorubas fought and won the biafra war for Nigeria.. likes of Murtala and the other Northerners were kust losing soldiers as biafra forces were annihilating them..

The only Military advance defuct biafra republic had was led by a Yoruba man by name Victor Banjo.. seeing his Military prowess made the Igbos jittery and they lied to Okukwu that Banjo was a sellout working for Nigeria which wasn't even enough reason for Ojukwu to have him killed .. what followed after was total destruction for Ojukwu and his biafran army (including foreign mercenaries from France, South Africa and likes).

Benjamin Adekunle a.k.a Black Scorpion was a fearsome and gallant Yoruba warrior that did exploits.. God continue to rest his soul.

casualobserver:
But 6 months was enough to alter the trajectory of the country forever with laws like the unification decree? I hope you know it is not the coup that has set us backwards but the single most important reason is the loss of federalism and who did that? But apparently 6 months is not long enough.

The coup was not an ibo coup. I state that will full chest. That does not mean certain ibo did not and still do not have an agenda. Like I stated in my post earlier, the consequence of the failed coup is that it handed over power to the group of expansionist ibos.

I have said it many times already, the problem is not the coup. It wasn’t an ibo coup but if my brother kills your brother and I neither apologize to you, show any remorse and act in a manner that seems to be in sympathy for the actions of my brother then I can’t blame you for holding me responsible for the death of your brother, whether I knew about it or not. Perception is reality.

In the same way you hold Awo responsible for not supporting Ojukwu when he pulled out of Nigeria, despite the fact that Federal troops were in the western region, the federal govt was in the western region, Yorubas were underrepresented in the army as the army then was seen as a profession for lowlifes. Neither can you show where Awo said the west would fight against the federal, all he said was if they go, we go. It didn’t stop you from saying and continuing to say Awo betrayed you did it?


The problem the ibo man faces, is not the coup but their actions after the coup failed and which continues till date. I don’t know how many times I can say this.

codemaniacs:
igbos that hate Yorubas with passion will attempt a coup to free Awolowo a Yoruba man... You igbos must think Yorubas are dull and lack sense to be spreading lies...

Awolowo was in Calabar prison... if they wanted to release him they would have done it after the coup during the 6 months they ruled for..

you igbos always lie hiding behind pan-africanism, ironsi abolished regionalism because he wanted access to funds in Western Nigeria while Northern Nigeria funds would have just been bonus because they were never a rich region..

codemaniacs:
stop spreading stupid lies..

if military guys from the SW were informed do you think they would have agreed to kill the Premier of Western Nigeria..

what concerns Eastern region with the politics of the Western region..

so there were no corrupt igbo politicians for the coup plotters to kill in the Eastern region?

to the you and the coup plotters only Western region and Northern region were filled corruption while the Eastern region was and is filled with angels.

gbemishile:
He made d coup fail??
U need history lessons
And when he got into power,he did not do what his tribe went to war for.

Badassniggga:
I'll ask just one question:

Why were leaders in the North and South killed but ABSOLUTELY no leader from the East extraction was killed??

I'm waiting... Patiently waiting for you to come tell me there was no one from the Igbo extraction amongst those calling the shots in leadership at that time..

I'm still waiting for you to reply me intelligently and not with jargons that holds no water.

codemaniacs:
stop spreading stupid lies..

if military guys from the SW were informed do you think they would have agreed to kill the Premier of Western Nigeria..

what concerns Eastern region with the politics of the Western region..

so there were no corrupt igbo politicians for the coup plotters to kill in the Eastern region?

to the you and the coup plotters only Western region and Northern region were filled corruption while the Eastern region was and is filled with angels.

Guestmale:
Whatever the reasons for the coup and what transpired that singular coup changed the destiny of Nigeria till today and which I'm not sure it can be reverted except by divine intervention.

43Ronin:
FFK, your snitching father & akintola aided by tafawa balewa rigged western election that awolowo won, leading to crisis & subsequent jail term for awolowo.
Yet the bitter truth is that if the new head of state, General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, who himself happened to be Igbo, had done the right thing and actually prosecuted the ringleaders of the coup namely Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, Major Anufuro, Major Ademoyega, Major Timothy Onwuatuegwu, Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi, Captain Okafor, Captain Ben Gbulie and all the other young officers that planned and executed the mutiny of January 15th 1966 after it was crushed, there would have been no northern revenge coup six months later.
You said he did nothing, but later said he imprisoned the couple plotters You also carefully forgot to say that the coup-plotters were being tried by a military tribunal & that major nzeogwu still had control of the military in the north(basically breaking away the north) & it was only after negotiations that he surrendered.

Badassniggga:
LMAO no mind them. Them think say Dem wise pass other Nigerians and don't want everyone else to see the obvious they've done. . Glad we're in the internet age now and it'll be pretty difficult to distort or withhold information

We agree for a fair coup. You, kill the leaders in the North. you, kill those in the East. You, kill those in the West.

I killed those in the West and North but almost no leader from the East was maimed and somehow, the officers that carried out the heinous crime that resulted in those fatalities were from one certain region.

E reach Ifeajunana turn to do the do, e turn philosopher and couldn't do it because the leaders are from his ethnic group. So many only Northern and Western leaders una like kpai abi? ..

I'm just so glad the Northern officers didn't let it slide and carried out their own bloody counter coup. They drew first blood and results were unfair in the eyes of everyone which led to serious retribution, now Dem dey shout say the civil war they brought upon themselves and Nigeria as a whole was too much for them

codemaniacs:
igbos never had it all..

in some countries.. government jobs are exclusively for the indigenes, that's the point Bello and Akintola were trying to make..

from the early 1900s even before Nigeria's almagation of northern and southern Nigeria.. Nnamdi Azikwe's father was working for the Bri:tish as a secretary and hundreds if not thousands of other i:gbos were also working for the bri:tish all over Nigeria because the Bri:tish favored them not because other tribes were not qualified and un-educated until 1960 when the Bri:tish left..

their white collar employment had nothing to do with Ahmadu Bello and Balewa. since they already had those jobs before independence and continued on the jobs after independence so Ahmadu Bello, Akintola were working towards replacing i:gbos who had federal jobs in the north and western Nigeria...

having jobs is different from controlling the companies or institutions that create those jobs...

Despite i:gbos having most of the federal jobs all over Nigeria the regional jobs and institutions were controlled by the indigenes and Western Nigeria created more regional institutions, companies and agencies than other regions and i:gbos like Azikwe were covetous towards Western Nigeria's institutions and wanted control of Western Nigeria and its regional institutions which i:gbos till date are still trying to grab control of states in the SW...

raumdeuter:
Actually there was need for the Ibos

1959 to 1964 was a NPC(mainly North) and NCNC(Mainly East) alliance which ruled and formed the cabinet. By 1964 Akintola already broke away from the AG and formed his NNDP. Akintola already reasoned that this alliance was to the detriment of Yorubas since all the good positions were cornered by the Ibos and Hausas. To the level where even the Vice Chancellor for UNILAG and UI both in Yorubaland were Ibo men Eni Njoku and Kenneth Dike.
(I listened to Akintolas campaign speech of 1964)
The initial alliance between the NPC(Balewa) and NCNC(Azikwe) was broken and Akintolas NNDP became the new partner with NPC to form the NNA alliance. The NNA Alliance won the election thus Balewa and Akintolas party would be forming the new govt and the Ibos would be pushed into opposition. Akintola started replacing Ibos in the former govt with Yorubas from his NNDP. An example, At that time the tenure of Eni Njoku expired as UNILAG VC and Akintola ensured that Prof Saburi Biobaku was made the VC. This was too much for the Ibos to take and they reacted which meant Akintola had to be killed and those in the new NNA alliance

cerpvad:
The question still remains why were large percentage of the January 1966 coupists made up of Igbo tribes? Why did they spare the lives of Igbo prominent leaders such as Nnamdi Azikwe, Ironsi, Ojukwu etc?

Occurstaem:
That's why we must start educating Yorùbá youths about the history of politics in this "mere geographical expression" experiment.

Deadlytruth:
How come they stepped in to restore government yet their stepping in put in place a military junta as against the democratic government that was in place? What then is the meaning of restoration?

Deadlytruth:
How come they stepped in to restore government yet their stepping in put in place a military junta as against the democratic government that was in place? What then is the meaning of restoration?

casualobserver:
Excuse me it is the same mistake they are making with the Obidient movement. Even captain Gbuli admitted with the benefit of hindsight that he wouldn’t have staged the coup. There is nothing more dangerous than young people who think they know it all.

I didn’t miss the point. It is irrelevant because the coup failed. I think you missed that point. If you stage a coup and you fail, the consequence is death, no one cares about your intention. The consequence of the coup failure in this case was the handing over to Igbo centric section of the country even though it was never their intention and it was exactly what they were fighting against. But nobody cares about your intention. People only remember the effects, results and consequences.

I repeat in case you missed it that I don’t believe it was an Ibo coup but the consequence of it was to hand over to Igbo centric leadership. I think you miss that point.

raumdeuter:
What did Sardauna Bello, Okotie Eboh, Ademulegun, Sodeinde, Pam, Lagerma Maimalari etc have to do with the crisis in the Western Region

garykoeman:
Ok, only northerners and southwest leaders were corrupt and deserve to be killed.

casualobserver:
I actually believe the coup was not an Ibo coup as such. I sincerely beleive they were a bunch of overzealous immature, deluded misguided but sincere young men who saw themselves as patriots. The problem is that it failed and as a result of its failure, all we witnessed was the unintended effects.

I also believe there has always existed and still exist a band of Ibo expansionists whose views are represented by the Dady Onyeama declaration at the Ibo conference and unfortunately for the coup plotters, they are the ones who took over after the failed coup and started to act in an Ibo centric manner for instance by not trying their coup plotting kinsmen and enacting laws that suggested an Ibo supremacy/conquering agenda.

1: Whether by commission or by omission, the major actors in the coup were Ibos.
2: whether by commission of by omission the major causalities were non Ibos.
3: whether by commission or omission those who got away were the Ibos. Not only were Ibo politicians spared but the Ibo coup plotters were not tried.
4: if my brother kills your brother and I do not offer my apologies for or distance myself from his behavior then it is natural for you to conclude he had my approval.
5: the nature of some of the deaths/murders are unconscionable.
6: the fact that Ibos have never dissociated themselves from the coup but more importantly apologized and also carry on today like a people intent on conquering others only to perpetuate the idea that it was an Ibo coup.

Like I said, with what I know now. I have 98% certainty it was not an Ibo coup. It was just a series of unfortunate coincidences by young revolutionaries and Yorubas at the time looked down on joining the army, so naturally there would be more Ibos involved.

It was not who staged the coup that continues to be the problem but the actions thereafter.