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Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by oyinkinola: 9:08am On Mar 22, 2016
chukwuaustin:
Islam is to the northwest n east what Christianity is to the southeast they are both keen in maintaining their territories both should embrace religious tollerance
...the better!
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by Nobody: 9:54am On Mar 22, 2016
oyinkinola:

.....south-east...biafra seek seccesion as well as north-east want...islam state! from nigeria territory! they were the same.
Actually, I was refering to the South-East... and when it comes to them, your argument about religious intolerance holds no water... That's my point. Focus on important things and let go of trivial issues. Such topics are ignoble, and have the potential of stoking the already burning flame.
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by oyinkinola: 11:46am On Mar 22, 2016
Ayomikun37:
Actually, I was refering to the South-East... and when it comes to them, your argument about religious intolerance holds no water... That's my point. Focus on important things and let go of trivial issues. Such topics are ignoble, and have the potential of stoking the already burning flame.
....I learnt if you are muslim you marginalised in the east!
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by Nobody: 12:17pm On Mar 22, 2016
oyinkinola:

....I learnt if you are muslim you marginalised in the east!
Excuse me, I'm an ATHEIST...

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Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by oyinkinola: 12:24pm On Mar 22, 2016
Ayomikun37:
Excuse me, I'm an ATHEIST...
...but you believe in life? why you get lost from the tradition?
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Mar 22, 2016
oyinkinola:

...but you believe in life? why you get lost from the tradition?
What tradition?
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by oyinkinola: 12:49pm On Mar 22, 2016
Ayomikun37:
What tradition?
......what is the tradition in you home
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Mar 22, 2016
oyinkinola:

......what is the tradition in you home
Whatever that may be, what's my business with it? What does it have to do with me?
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by CyrusTheGreat: 11:00am On May 17, 2017
oyinkinola:
...religion extremism either in slam or christian is directly related to the east, contrary to the west where every home is mixed with different religion, in every home in the west there is christian, muslim and pagan in every family where every one perform their reigion with out any problem!
....even in the western world the story is not different, but in the east religion bigotry is other of the day! no wonder why peace is never reign in the east! if you love your life you do in rome as roman do, that's in the east, in case of religion, and no wonder why west is habbitable to every human being, for your full freedom of religion go the west!

Actually, this religious discrimination was the same for the Western world until about 300 years ago, when educated secular critics (religionless deists and atheists) began to criticise religious beliefs and the hold religion had over scientific innovation and society. It always makes me laugh when Islamist Theocrats and dictators refer to human rights and freedoms as a "western influence". Do you have any idea how many people had to die, how many wars that were waged with both weapons and words and marches, how many critics were silenced before secularism and religious tolerance to become commonplace in western countries? They've only really been this open for the past 50 years, after hundreds of years of agitation, wars against the nobility, wars against the church and wars against dictators.

Islam's control over societies in the Middle-East and North Africa has actually grown in societies since the 50s by contrast - and not even in the obvious examples of modernised Iran and Afghanistan and the resulting Islamist takeovers of each respective country in the 70s. In 1970s Cairo in Egypt, you'd be lucky if you even saw one woman in a Burqa/niqab or Hijab - now the opposite is true. If you time travelled back to Turkey in the 60s, you'd have found a huge number of atheists and non-religious folk. Many would exclaim that "there are no muslims in Turkey" back then - now Muslims, conservative muslims, have skyrocketed in the country and it is being lead by a dictator named "erdoghan" who is the member of an "islamist-lite" party. Indeed with the spread of Saudi Arabian funded Madrasas, the most backwards strains of Islam and illogicity are spreading throughout poor muslim communities faster than ever before.

I actually believe this rise in Islamist groups is tied with the repression of socialist movements throughout the middle-east. Many people were and still are in nasty economic/socio-political situations in those regions, and socialist movements offered a path forwards for the poor and needy. Due to many nations' rigid anti-communism at the time, they poured money and weapons into fringe groups to combat and kill the communist movements. These fringe groups were some of the first Islamic terrorists. Osama Bin Laden, before gaining international reknown as the leader of the infamous Al-Quaeda terrorist group that raped, bombed, murdered, destroyed infrastructure and drowned Afghanistan/Pakistan in their goals for an oppressive Islamic state, he was praised by Western Newspapers as a heroic soldier of freedom fighting back communism.



This is just one of many examples of western-backed Islamic fundamentalists who later became terrorist organisations and brutal dictatorial theocracies - just like the Nazi party of early 20th century, their first targets, before anyone else, were their popular arch-enemies, the socialists. The socialists, far from believing in dictatorial regimes like North Korea, Stalin's Russia or China, wanted socialism's original goal, of a classless society centered in fair labour and free-thinking, and the removal of religious bindings, and if they couldn't achieve the first thing, at the very least bring the country's infrastructure up to speed. Sadly popular support among the poor and needy for the socialists declined when, you know, the Islamists started killing them all, and the only salvation left for people to find was that of the oh so generous Imams, and the rapist salafist/wahhabist psychopaths who genuinely believe that a shitty book written in the 7th century is both true and accurate and that it's rules must apply to the modern day, who parade around towns shrieking generalised lines about colonial oppression and exploitation - lines and talking points that they stole from the socialists.
Re: West Is More Religion Tolerant Than The East!......why? by CyrusTheGreat: 11:10am On May 17, 2017
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