TheGoodJoe:


As long as Nacho works hard and keeps perfecting his craft, he will not expire. Players do not expire like that. Ask Lukaku.

Icon4s:


O may you live long sir!

Tell TheGoodJoe that Iheanacho is deteriorating due to lack of game time now him go set karate for you.

TheGoodJoe:


Tell that to Iniesta who played regularly for Club and country at a young age. What of Xavi? Or Gerard or Scholes.

Young players have played instrumental roles in clubs. Iwobi needs to know that he needs to keep working hard to remain on top. No time for too much play.

Icon4s:


Yes Lukaku left Chelsea and became relevant.

Infact that is a fantastic example. Hahahaha

He would have expired on the drilling pitch.

Lazyerudite:

Well, it is either there is so much hype or the local teams are that bad. If you say Zesco is a big ten then I will not argue. But are they bigger than Ranger I mean, it seems our league is still growing or is outrightly poor. We don't even make any statement on the continent again. Same crap Kano pillars did some years back. It is better to say the truth even if it hurts so we can make corrections than give excuses and not improve. You can't give what you don't have. For us not have a good goalkeeper in the whole league that can step up to ikeme, or defenders and midfielders who can even stand out on the continent is not too good. How many home based players can make the current Super eagles bench? "

TheGoodJoe:


Pogba could not make match day squad a lot of time of Manchester United and hardly started a game. When he went to Juventus, he was head and shoulders over a lot of players who had regular game time.

Same goes to Pique who hardly had game time but went on loan to Zaragoza and was one of the best defenders in La Liga. He came back to Manchester United and hardly got game time, went to Barcelona and was a key player of the six title winning Barca squad.

Game time is misleading.

TheGoodJoe:


James Rodriguez, Neymar and Ozil are recent examples of young players that took the World Cup with a raging storm. Maradona and Pele are too far.

goldfish80:

Nobody is belittling anyone. Its very convenient to mention Pele and cite Maradona but truth remains that the world cup is not exactly a playing ground for young lads. Italy had to recall a certain Del Piero and Totti to pilot their 2006 world cup ambitions. Even Germany recalled Miroslav Klose for the Brazil mundial. These are facts,if our older strikers were up and doing, Kelechi would have still be playing second fiddle to them.

goldfish80:

Xavi and iniesta where never regulars for Barcelona till Deco/Ronaldinho left in 2006/07.
Gerrard was never a regular for England when he was young. He was not a regular at the 2002 world cup.
Young players easily get burnt out during the course of the season. It happens all the time. That is where you need an experienced team and manager to help pull him through.

TheGoodJoe:


The point is that he did not deteriorate. He went somewhere and with a run of games, people saw he was good. Even his doubters saw it too.

With a run of games, Pogba showed class. Same with De Bruyne. This was a result of the hard work they put in before they moved. They were good because despite lack of game time, they kept working hard. Ask Mikel before Guus Hiddink came.

goldfish80:

These guys you mentioned had experienced players who played a decoy role for them to shine. Ozil had Schweisteger at the Base of his midfield while James had Falcao and even a 40 yr old Yepes as his captain. Totally different scenario to Kelechis.

Icon4s:


Lukaku was already deteriorating. Chelsea fans were already calling him trash.

He left and revived his career.

In the same way now iheanacho should leave before he deteriorates. Bc that period when he deteriorates it will affect his performances for the national team.

We need him playing ahead of the next WC Biko nu.

TheSuperNerd:
Abeg Egbon plsss chop knuckle jare..... ur head dey dia....

daveP:
Pogba wasnt 'drilled' by sir alex giving him hope of entering starting 11. juve worked on his pass and shot accuracy and IMMEDIATELY tested him with a match, his coach just by what he saw gave him more game time and didnt stop there.(game time increased 4 pogba, even on the big stage) he moulded him til man u regretted 'letting a potential' go. SO PLS GAME TIME ISNT MISLEADING. DYU EVEN PONDER WHAT YOU WRITE SOMETIMES?

daveP:
Pogba wasnt 'drilled' by sir alex giving him hope of entering starting 11. juve worked on his pass and shot accuracy and IMMEDIATELY tested him with a match, his coach just by what he saw gave him more game time and didnt stop there.(game time increased 4 pogba, even on the big stage) he moulded him til man u regretted 'letting a potential' go. SO PLS GAME TIME ISNT MISLEADING. DYU EVEN PONDER WHAT YOU WRITE SOMETIMES?

TheGoodJoe:


The point is that he did not deteriorate. He went somewhere and with a run of games, people saw he was good. Even his doubters saw it too.

With a run of games, Pogba showed class. Same with De Bruyne. This was a result of the hard work they put in before they moved. They were good because despite lack of game time, they kept working hard. Ask Mikel before Guus Hiddink came.

TheGoodJoe:


It is this kind of talk that made me Kung-fu one coach in Tokyo.

TheSuperNerd:

Sir DaveP.... leave the ring now!!!!!!

don't worry... I will fight on your behalf ... Oya Sir GoodJoe... touch am ... make I see....

**Yara Yara... get the karate girl and the action kids ready**

daveP:




Thanks alot for the self-contradiction. you made my day!!!

TheGoodJoe:


How many matches has Iwobi played this season for Nigeria that it is the reason for him burning? Young players have seen games and remained at a high level. They are plenty. Players like Modric, James Rodriguez, Neymar etc.

TheGoodJoe:


What are you saying? Do you know how many years Sir Alex Ferguson and his crew worked on Pogba. He was constantly groomed to become a king in Manchester United’s midfielder. You fill a few weeks at Juventus can create a monster like Pogba?

Pogba walked into Juventus first team. Pogba was already scoring long Rangers in Manchester United junior teams and giving brilliant passes in his early teens.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not abuse women and children physically. If not I would have cracked ya skull with one fast kick.

TheSuperNerd:

Sir DaveP.... leave the ring now!!!!!!

don't worry... I will fight on your behalf ... Oya Sir GoodJoe... touch am ... make I see....

**Yara Yara... get the karate girl and the action kids ready**

daveP:
Dont make me laugh pls. worked on him asin how? sotey you just said he "waltzed" straight into juve team? funny. just like manucho was worked on ba? pls, his long rangers and he was considered not good enough for a future man u that he wasnt fought over when juve came knocking? he was so good at juve that the black kid broke epl's transfer record 4a black player.

daveP:
No need, il just do a raiders of the lost ark for him aka watch him display his skill and end it with a bullet

BascoVanVeli:


Rangers had not won the league in 32 years u can't compare them to Zesco who have won 5 of the last 10 league trophies. The NPFL has great talent but Salisu might not have the talent of finding diamonds in the rough.

TheGoodJoe:


Pogba was always considered good enough. Alex Ferguson never wanted him to go. Manucho was already grown when he joined Manchester United. Pogba was a kid. I think thirteen. Two different scenarios. There was a lot of work in Pogba. There was eve a battle to secure his signature before he joined Manchester United.

Juventus benefited from the hard work Ferguson put in Pogba.

TheSuperNerd:
Wow!!!!! wow!!!! chop knuckle My Good man....


So you recall that scene in that Indiana Jones movie so well.... I love that part so much!!!!!


When I have a gun why will I waste time fighting you who got all the skills and moves on the world... a bullet to your head will just do...

Chaaaiiiiii... and I never thought I will meet someone who recalls that scene as much as I do ..... wow!!!!!

TheGoodJoe:


What concerns me is Iheanacho becoming a better player in the near future. If rushing him to a team that will diminish him in the name of looking for goals and assists, I am wholeheartedly against it.

The whole game time thing has been blown of the map with Iwobi and Ighalo deteriorating with game time. It is misleading.

What is most important is Iheanacho's continuous development.

daveP:
Lol. never bring a sword to a gunfight. see on the previous page. he said game time isnt necessary to know how a player develops. now he is changing mouth with the term "run of games" chai