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Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 4:09pm On Apr 03, 2016
discusant:


People of then Midwest region agreed to have Benin Republic. They gave the name Benin Republic to the new country. Biafra soldiers secured and helped them inaugurate the new country. That's how a government of Bini Republic was formed by people of then Midwest, not only by the Binis.

False! David Ejoor, The military governor of the Midwest, declared with the support of the entire people that the Midwest from its northernmost Imoga village to its Southernmost Burutu Village was neutral between Biafra and the federal forces. The assassination of Okotie-Eboh by Ifeajuna and co had already planted deep resentment in the minds of Itshekiri's and urhobo's against Biafrans. So how could the Midwest have consented to having Biafran soldiers dictate their fate? In fact Ogbemudia rejected Biafran occupation of the Midwest. The federal forces respected David Ejoor's declaration even though he was obliged to the Nigerian side by virtue of his being a member of the Nigerian Army. But the Biafran forces never respected it thus their invasion of Benin to chase away David Ejoor who escaped their bullets by whiskers. How then did Biafra secure Midwest during the war when the Benin Republic the imposed on us was crushed by the Nigerian side in less than 24 hours and Biafran soldiers chased out of the region? Remember Ojukwu even refused to make a Midwesterner the governor of the Benin Republic but brought in one Okonkwo from Enugu as governor. Is that how to free a people and secure them against domination?
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by gidgiddy: 4:22pm On Apr 03, 2016
lielbree:

I say "we" cos that's what the overwhelming majority of the Niger delta want.
The highest mistake the biafrans will make is to decive themselves into the delusion the the Niger delta would join them....
The same referendum that will create biafra is the same one that will separate the Niger delta.

Speak for your tribe and stop dragging tribes, some of who don't even know you, into your non existent Niger-Delta.

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Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by 36STATES: 5:30pm On Apr 03, 2016
lielbree:


My uncle fought in the Nigerian army! He told me.
I personally know some people who were taken as kids that survived.
I am from Bakana, who told you we relocated?? Abeg the 1960s is not that far off o.
Are you not aware that the our people were classified as traitors for supporting Nigeria??

You said you're from Kalabari, so why don't you fight for the independence of your tribe instead of joining yourself with the Urhobo, Ibibio, Ijaw etc in the name of Niger Delta created by OBJ. You said Igbos should fight alone but you append yourself to other tribes that may not like you. You know Kalabari is too insignificant to be taken serious that's why you want to hide under Niger Delter. This is exactly the stupidity of earlier leaders that sold their people to the Hausas because of federal appointment. For your information, Biafra is made up of provinces under the former eastern region with headquarters in Calabar. Before independence these nationalities came together and agreed to be in one region before the military came and destroyed it. Niger Delta is made of many nationalities including Igbos, so stop deceiving yourself about not wanting to have anything to do with Biafra. Hausa man doesn't differentiate between you and Igbos, their seeming hatred for Igbos is because they're the only ethnic nationality strong enough to withstand their desire to take over the entire region.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 5:33pm On Apr 03, 2016
MyGeneration:

LoL... All this long story simply because i told benin republic to stay on there own and stop attaching to the ss... LoL.
We are Benin.
Godbless federal republic of benin.
We know our boundaries.
We know our rivers.
We know our neighbour's.
In Benin republic we stand.

Quite funny. So the current SS is now just five states yet you Eastern Igbos rejected the granting of Anioma State claiming that it will make the SS have 7 states while the SE would still remain five? So which is then the sixth state which Anioma will be 7th to? You want Edo out of SS but want Delta in it yet you claim it is not the quest for oil that actuates your desire. You also forget that ethnically Edoid groups make up Delta and the same you Ironically want the Edoid groups in Delta to remain in your own version of SS while you cry blue murder everyday against Nigeria for excising Igboid groups like Ikwerre from the SE and merging them with SS. See original double standards and glaring hypocrisy! Una journey far well well. When you people speak the rest Nigerians just laugh at your inconsistencies. Continue in your hypocrisy that has alienated you from everyone in the past 56 years.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by 36STATES: 5:47pm On Apr 03, 2016
spanishkid:
I live in Canada but I know my roots cos my Pops is Nigerian. Allow us bother about ourselves. We dont want to form a union with you. Is that too difficult? 45% of present day Southern Nigeria trace their origin from Edo. Continue living in denial. You claim you're being marginalised but yet want to lump others into an unholy union. I really don't have time arguing with you.

Stop attaching yourself to other tribes. I don't think Ijaws, efik, Igbos in the present day Niger Delter wants to form a country with you. Niger Delta is a creation of OBJ, is not a nationality. Edo is even made up of many tribes....answer your fathers name.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 5:49pm On Apr 03, 2016
gidgiddy:


Speak for your tribe and stop dragging tribes, some of who don't even know you, into your non existent Niger-Delta.

Those called the SS have actually come to know one another ever after their SS region was created for them. They have assimilated each other and so far are enjoying the union. The speed and manner they all recently convened and rose to unanimously dissociate themselves from Biafra speaks volume of their oneness. The manner they all also rallied round GEJ, even though GEJ was just from one of the minutest tribes among them (mind you Ogbia is not an Ijaw group) speaks volume of their oneness. What actually unites the SS is that they all suffered oppression under the Eastern and Western Regions, and that there is no single overwhelming majority tribe among them to dominate others by sheer numbers. This is why they believe in their proposed SS country more than any other grouping which will surely have a single dominant tribe bullying the others. Moreover no SS tribe has ever used state military power to attack another SS tribe or spoken derogatorily of another in the history of Nigeria hence there are no inter-ethnic resentments within the SS. In fact when Victor Malu from Benue attacked Odi in Bayelsa under OBJ's command, a Delta State Native Ogomudia, took it upon himself to avenge by later on attacking victor Malu's home town of Zakibiam in Benue. That is the SS spirit of oneness that defies their ethnic plurality.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by gidgiddy: 6:04pm On Apr 03, 2016
Deadlytruth:


Those called the SS have actually come to know one another ever after their SS region was created for them. They have assimilated each other and so far are enjoying the union. The speed and manner they all recently convened and rose to unanimously dissociate themselves from Biafra speaks volume of their oneness. The manner they all also rallied round GEJ, even though GEJ was just from one of the minutest tribes among them (mind you Ogbia is not an Ijaw group) speaks volume of their oneness. What actually unites the SS is that they all suffered oppression under the Eastern and Western Regions, and that there is no single overwhelming majority tribe among them to dominate others by sheer numbers. This is why they believe in their proposed SS country more than any other grouping which will surely have a single dominant tribe bullying the others. Moreover no SS tribe has ever used state militarily power to attack another SS tribe or spoken derogatorily of another in the history of Nigeria hence there are no inter-ethnic resentments within the SS.

You are living in dream land. This 'SS' you are talking about is not even recognised in the constitution. So who created it for you? You think the Efik Man knws who Itshekiri man is? You think the Ibibio Man knows who the Bini Man is? So how can the be brothers when nothing brings them together? You people should learn to speak for your tribes instead of speaking for other tribes you have no connection with. Pure madness

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Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by gidgiddy: 6:08pm On Apr 03, 2016
lielbree:

It's like arguing on whether or not Wike is more popular than ameachi in Rivers state. I don't need to know everyone in rivers to know that Wike has the people!
I don't need to know all persons in all the tribes of the Niger delta to know WE DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA! WE WANT UNITED STATES OF THE NIGER DELTA AND REPUBLIC OF BIAFRA! OR ELSE WE WILL REMAIN IN THIS SHIT HOLE CALLED NIGERIA!

So you don't know what other tribes in this so called 'Niger Delta' want but you claim to speak for all of them? Isn't that funny. The Niger Delta is not even recognised by the constitution. Learn to speak for your tribe and leave other tribes you have no connection with whatsoever to speak for themselves
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by lielbree: 6:17pm On Apr 03, 2016
36STATES:


You said you're from Kalabari, so why don't you fight for the independence of your tribe instead of joining yourself with the Urhobo, Ibibio, Ijaw etc in the name of Niger Delta created by OBJ. You said Igbos should fight alone but you append yourself to other tribes that may not like you. You know Kalabari is too insignificant to be taken serious that's why you want to hide under Niger Delter. This is exactly the stupidity of earlier leaders that sold their people to the Hausas because of federal appointment. For your information, Biafra is made up of provinces under the former eastern region with headquarters in Calabar. Before independence these nationalities came together and agreed to be in one region before the military came and destroyed it. Niger Delta is made of many nationalities including Igbos, so stop deceiving yourself about not wanting to have anything to do with Biafra. Hausa man doesn't differentiate between you and Igbos, their seeming hatred for Igbos is because they're the only ethnic nationality strong enough to withstand their desire to take over the entire region.

OK then, in Zik's voice, one Nigeria.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 6:24pm On Apr 03, 2016
gidgiddy:


You are living in dream land. This 'SS' you are talking about is not even recognised in the constitution. So who created it for you? You think the Efik Man knws who Itshekiri man is? You think the Ibibio Man knows who the Bini Man is? So how can the be brothers when nothing brings them together? You people should learn to speak for your tribes instead of speaking for other tribes you have no connection with. Pure madness

Self delusion galore.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 6:27pm On Apr 03, 2016
gidgiddy:


You are living in dream land. This 'SS' you are talking about is not even recognised in the constitution. So who created it for you? You think the Efik Man knws who Itshekiri man is? You think the Ibibio Man knows who the Bini Man is? So how can the be brothers when nothing brings them together? You people should learn to speak for your tribes instead of speaking for other tribes you have no connection with. Pure madness
Neither is your SE in the constitution. But wait a minute.......Why is it only Igbos that are so pained by the creation of SS? The Yorubas who lost Edo/Delta to the SS don't shed tears like Igbos do for losing Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom and Cross River to SS. Why?
If you yourself knows about Ibibios, itshekiris, Efiks, Binis, etc despite being Igbo, then how come you expect these people don't know one another? The Old Eastern and Western Regions have been abandoned and permanently reconfigured to have the oppressed minorities out of them. Keep living in denial and fantasy that you still have brothers among them. The earlier you face reality the better for you. SS has come to stay whether you like it or not. You claim OBJ created it, yet you contributed largely to the votes that saw OBJ into power for him to crate SS region. So whose fault?
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 7:23pm On Apr 03, 2016
Igbos have always been their own problem. As at 1900 the whole of present Benue State, the Eastern parts of the current Kogi State together the South western parts Cameroon were all grouped into the eastern parts of the Southern protectorate of Nigeria, i.e. to the side of Igbos. This is due to the fact that Benue and Eastern Kogi areas were and till now are still predominantly Christian and were therefore more culturally compatible with the South than North. All my Benue friends look, reason, speak and behave purely like Southerners.
But before 1960 Igbos had lost Benue and Eastern Kogi to the North, and in 1961 further lost Southern Cameroon to Cameroon while the Hausa fulanis even gained Northern Cameroon. What exactly did Igbos do to offend Benue, Kogi and Southern Cameroon into gravitating away from them? Had Igbos been able to retain Benue and Eastern Kogi in the South till independence and as well retained Southern Cameroon after independence the North would not have been so numerically powerful over the South as they claim today. Igbos played politics of the moment without weighing the long term implications of their choices and decisions. Now they want Benue and Kogi back in Biafra after almost 70 years of losing them to the North due to carelessness and myopic politicking.
Even the SE minorities too wanted to break off into the proposed COR Region. Zik's style of leadership did not help matters as all he was concerned with was his quest to acquire the title 'Zik of Africa' and be so worshiped. The loss of Benue and Kogi by Igbos did not bother him at all. In fact while Igbos were losing these grounds he was far away in the Western Region seeking premiership there and crying of being a victim of tribal politics when it did not materialize. IGBOS need to sit down and check themselves by way of introspection.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by ChoCandyDiamond(f): 10:13pm On Apr 03, 2016
Deadlytruth:
Igbos have always been their own problem. As at 1900 the whole of present Benue State, the Eastern parts of the current Kogi State together the South western parts Cameroon were all grouped into the eastern parts of the Southern protectorate of Nigeria, i.e. to the side of Igbos. This is due to the fact that Benue and Eastern Kogi areas were and till now are still [s]predominantly Christian and were therefore more culturally compatible with the South than North. All my Benue friends look, reason, speak and behave purely like Southerners.
But before 1960 Igbos had lost Benue and Eastern Kogi to the North, and in 1961 further lost Southern Cameroon to Cameroon while the Hausa fulanis even gained Northern Cameroon. What exactly did Igbos do to offend Benue, Kogi and Southern Cameroon into gravitating away from them? Had Igbos been able to retain Benue and Eastern Kogi in the South till independence and as well retained Southern Cameroon after independence the North would not have been so numerically powerful over the South as they claim today. Igbos played politics of the moment without weighing the long term implications of their choices and decisions. Now they want Benue and Kogi back in Biafra after almost 70 years of losing them to the North due to carelessness and myopic politicking.
Even the SE minorities too wanted to break off into the proposed COR Region. Zik's style of leadership did not help matters as all he was concerned with was his quest to acquire the title 'Zik of Africa' and be so worshiped. The loss of Benue and Kogi by Igbos did not bother him at all. In fact while Igbos were losing these grounds he was far away in the Western Region seeking premiership there and crying of being a victim of tribal politics when it did not materialize. IGBOS need to sit down and check themselves by way of introspection.
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You are just typing trash, are you high on Oshogbo weeds, you are just ridiculing yourself thinking that you are bashing Igbos, did you go to school, have you read about the history of Nigeria, what did Igbos have to do with the southern Cameroon referendum, the middle belt of Benue and Kogi and the mid western Nigeria, please stop this your rubbish write up and show of illiteracy

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Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 2:01am On Apr 04, 2016
ChoCandyDiamond:
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You are just typing trash, are you high on Oshogbo weeds, you are just ridiculing yourself thinking that you are bashing Igbos, did you go to school, have you read about the history of Nigeria, what did Igbos have to do with the southern Cameroon referendum, the middle belt of Benue and Kogi and the mid western Nigeria, please stop this your rubbish write up and show of illiteracy

Typical Igbo mentality and disease of not addressing issues raised but attacking persons and thinks whoever faults Igbo attitude of blind politicking is a Yoruba person. Very stupid mindset!
If you felt what I typed is trash then why not just disprove it with your own facts? You exactly are the one on Oshogbo weed. You are simply a misfit. Were Benue and Eastern Kogi not really originally part of Southern protectorate? Did Southern Cameroon not vote to Join Cameroon while Northern Cameroon voted to join Nigeria all in 1961? Flat empty head ignorant of history! Your Zik was busy looking for position in another man's land while his house was burning and rather than accept the truth you are here talking of Igbo bashing. Why is it that everyone else bashes only Igbo in Nigeria? It is because they rightly deserve it as they played too much of blind politics. They chanted One Nigeria when it was clear that Nigeria was not one and could never be. All those who maintained otherwise they labelled them tribalists. The same one Nigerianists are now asking for Biafra and claiming Nigeria is not one as if it was not them that started that trash. Very inconsistent people.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by 36STATES: 10:47am On Apr 07, 2016
garfield16:



I hate to quote FFK but here goes

http://www.southeastnigeria.com/who-introduced-tribalism-into-the-politics-of-the-south-the-yoruba-or-the-igbo-femi-fani-kayode/


Who introduced tribalism into the politics of the south? The Yoruba or The Igbo? – Femi Fani Kayode.
by admin on Oct 28, 2012 • 12:52 pm 54 comments
’Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time’- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Pg. 204 ‘Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria’ by Godfrey Mwakikagile). ‘It would appear that the God of Africa has created the Igbo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of ages …’ – Dr Azikiwe, President of the Pan-Igbo Federal Union. (The West African Pilot of July 8, 1949).
The first statement from Charles Onyeama, which was made in 1945, was the first overtly tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria in our history. That is where and when tribalism in the south actually started.
After that comment and as a direct reaction to it, the yoruba established the ”Egbe Omo Oduduwa” to further and protect yoruba interests and after that came the formation of the Action Group in 1948.


The second statement from Zik, which was made in 1949 (and which clearly shows that the great Zik of Africa had forgotten that the NCNC was not an igbo party at the beginning and that it had in fact been established by an upper class and very well educated yoruba man by the name of Sir Herbert Macauly, one of the famous ”Black Victorians” from the Lagos Colony, and who, at his death bed, was gracious enough to hand over the leadership of the party to him even though he was igbo) confirmed that tribalism was here to stay in the south and that ever since that time the igbo had an agenda to dominate others. This sentiment and this unfortunate igbocentric attitude is what cost Zik the Premiership of the Western Region in 1953 when the NCNC narrowly lost to the Action Group.
It is clear from this that if you want to know who started tribalism in southern politics and the politics of the southern protectorate of Nigeria it was not the yoruba or the southern minorities but the igbo. The excesses of the Igbo State Union and their treatment of the southern minorities and the yoruba from 1943 till 1967 was completely unacceptable. The rest of the south were prepared to accept the igbo as equals with open arms but they were not prepared to be politically dominated or conquered by them.
Worst still the first coup in the history of Nigeria, which was the Jan 15th 1966 coup d’etat led by Major Ifejuana and Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, was essentially an igbo coup and an igbo grab for power. I say this because 95 per cent of those that took part in it were igbo and 99 per cent of the political and military leaders that were brutally murdered during it’s execution were non-igbo. It was this coup and it’s sheer brutality that led to the even more brutal northern officers counter-coup of July 1966 (in which 300 igbo officers were killed in one night including the igbo Head of State, Gen. Aguiyi-Ironsi, and his yoruba host, the Military Governor of the Western Region, Gen. Adekunle Fajuyi who sought to protect him), the pogrom of igbos in the north (in which over 100,000 igbo civilians were killed in a few weeks) and the Nigerian civil war (in which 2 million Nigerians and Biafrans died). These are the facts of our history. Live and learn.
If you want to know who introduced tribalism into southern politics, it was the igbo. If you want to know who carried out the first coup in our country it was the igbo. Having done the painstaking research over a number of years these are my findings and this is my conclusion.
Femi Fani Kayode
- See more at: http://www.southeastnigeria.com/who-introduced-tribalism-into-the-politics-of-the-south-the-yoruba-or-the-igbo-femi-fani-
kayode/#sthash.W8go0DNi.dpuf



How did a Kenyan get hold of a statement made by Igboman in 1945 and no Nigerian knew about it? FFK had to quote a Kenyan, but had no other reference in Nigeria? Do you know that Nigeria was run by the white man until 1960? Do you know that Nigeria was a regional system with full autonomy of the regions? No Igboman made such statement, or at best it was a statement from a beer parlour which people always make.

FKK is a tribalist with rabbid obsession with anything Igbo. They said he has always hired Igbo cooks and never misses Calaber/Igbo food. This is information from someone that slept under his roof for 5 yrs.

That of Zik is nothing to respond to. It is even a credit for him. This is the kind of statement that comes in a speech to motivate your people to strive harder. That is why every culture has a religion and believes that the world originated from them. The purpose is to uplift their spirit.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by IamAtribalist: 11:28pm On Apr 07, 2016
cool I should read this cool
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by christopher123(m): 9:25pm On Apr 17, 2016
Deadlytruth:


Quite funny. So the current SS is now just five states yet you Eastern Igbos rejected the granting of Anioma State claiming that it will make the SS have 7 states while the SE would still remain five? So which is then the sixth state which Anioma will be 7th to? You want Edo out of SS but want Delta in it yet you claim it is not the quest for oil that actuates your desire. You also forget that ethnically Edoid groups make up Delta and the same you Ironically want the Edoid groups in Delta to remain in your own version of SS while you cry blue murder everyday against Nigeria for excising Igboid groups like Ikwerre from the SE and merging them with SS. See original double standards and glaring hypocrisy! Una journey far well well. When you people speak the rest Nigerians just laugh at your inconsistencies. Continue in your hypocrisy that has alienated you from everyone in the past 56 years.

So Igbo hbe the power of creating states ...nawa
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by Deadlytruth(m): 4:43am On Apr 18, 2016
christopher123:


So Igbo hbe the power of creating states ...nawa

A committee was set up by GEJ to look into the agitation for states creation and headed by an Igbo man who disapproved the idea of creation of Anioma State claiming that such would make the SS have 7 states. Go to Anioma/Igbo issues website and you'll see it there.
Re: Let’s Break Nigeria, Amalgamation Erroneous – Methodist Bishop by christopher123(m): 6:46am On Apr 18, 2016
Deadlytruth:


A committee was set up by GEJ to look into the agitation for states creation and headed by an Igbo man who disapproved the idea of creation of Anioma State claiming that such would make the SS have 7 states. Go to Anioma/Igbo issues website and you'll see it there.

Is that so?

Pls tell us the name of the committee and the Igbo that was in charge and pls tell us the recommendation and remember to tell us members of this committee
Then finally tell us the requirement before you get a state

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