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Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by Emekamex(m): 8:50am On Apr 14, 2016 |
I will be seriously disappointed if after the project is approved amid all these controversies and the government fails to complete it or abandon it as other numerous proposals (2nd Niger Bridge is a case study) |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 8:52am On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala:You are devoid of sound reasoning. Every argument has to be turned into party affiliations. Why don't we have a rail line that will encompass and transverse the SE included in that damn budget? That spurs you keep yapping about that will connect Onitsha , why did it double back instead of meeting the coastal line at Aba through Nnewi and Owerri? We are talking about change here, interjecting Jonathan on every discussions shows how low and unreasonable you are. This is something that should've been thought through by a reasonable government who entered through a change mantra if equality and fairness should be maintained. Stop defending the indefensible. It is very corrosive to the ears. What are you on about? Why are you so rabid and always hyperventilating when Igbo's and SE are mentioned? You haven't seen anything, the wailing have just started and you will continue to defend. Better on the offensive than defensive. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by asha80(m): 8:54am On Apr 14, 2016 |
TheArchangel:just wasted my time on a knuckle head if you cant see ccecc the construction company in charge of building that project is the one that produced the map(check the down right hand corner of the pic for verification) Obailala I actually think that my map is the actual map..i am not sure what amaechi was defending there when he mentioned Onitsha unless he was talking general railway master plan as it is supposed to be like the benin-agbor-asaba-Onitsha -enugu-abakiliki or the detour onitsha-nnewi-owerri-aba corridors...these routes have not been awarded or discussed 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by Ebukaobi: 8:58am On Apr 14, 2016 |
You are IPOB What is your business with issues in Nigeria? Go and concentrate on your Biafrat dreams and let us focus on Nigeria Biko uduak2016: 9 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 8:58am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Goke7:We have been demanding and what do we get in return. The situation is really unfair. We need a deep seaport, railroad that will transverse the SE, a river port along the Niger river, construction of Enugu-Onitsha road, Ibaka seaport, Enugu-PH road, Nnewi-Owerri road, second Niger bridge and many !ore. Other regions can list theirs too. 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 9:02am On Apr 14, 2016 |
asha80:You called me a knucklehead when it is obvious you are the knuckle head. Your political master is saying something else and you are defending something else. Are you appealing to him or what. Smh. I do not want to be scam in believing that the coastal rail line will cross Onitsha as it is being bandied about. The map you posted is believable but the one Obalaila is yapping about is total hogwash and he knew it, I knew it and you knew it. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by kenny987(f): 9:18am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Goke7: Yes! That is only fair. If things are to be done they should be done right! 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 9:49am On Apr 14, 2016 |
TheArchangel:Well, sorry, you can't have it all. Everybody would like a rail line to pass their door-mouth and in fact, have a station right outside their gates. But that is impossible, the rail connectivity project must start from somewhere and the phase we are in right now is the Lagos-Kano and Lagos-Calabar lines. Obasanjo did the Ajaokuta-Warri standard gauge line, GEJ did the Abuja-Kaduna standard gauge line, Buhari hopes to start the Lagos-Calabar and Lagos-Kano standard gauge line. I see nothing wrong with the plan and I know one day, it will get to every major city of Nigeria. The last time I checked, Buhari is the president of Nigeria and not you so you have no right to tell him what to do or how he will do it (Besides, this is just fulfilling a rail modernisation master-plan which has been in existence since OBJ's first tenure so it is not even Buhari's plan). Now to get your exact point, are you suggesting that the present Lagos-Calabar line plan be scrapped because it passes more SS cities than SE cities?.... Are you by any chance suggesting that the SS people are irrelevant and don't deserve a robust high speed rail system in their domain or are you suggesting that the SS doesn't deserve a modern rail system until after a rail has been passed through every major city in the SE?.... Is this just a case of diabolic self-centredness or is this just a case of you wailing and protesting because you feel you have a duty to oppose any and everything Buhari proposes? 8 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 9:59am On Apr 14, 2016 |
TheArchangel: TheArchangel: asha80:My bad, I didn't see the map posted earlier, I was only quoting the statement by the minister for transport at 05:20min in the video below where he stated there would be a spur from Benin-Onitsha. But come to think of it, why should I even believe a map (which is probably old) over a most recent statement by the minister?... Even if the rail crosses only Aba, @TheArchangel, are you suggesting that the SS (which feeds the entire nation) doesn't deserve a modern rail system traversing its domain because no modern rail has passed through several SE cities?... You need to grow up and stop being self-centred. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KE2XYj9Id4 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by OfoIgbo: 10:02am On Apr 14, 2016 |
naijapips02: Anambra has two of the most promising manufacturing bases in the country, yet a rail project that is meant to enhance the economic wellbeing of the country has been wickedly made not to traverse Onitsha and Nnewi and you hope Igbos will support a project that won't benefit them at all. Igbo politicians should instead be backing the establishment of seaports in the SS and Obuaku. This Calabar-Lagos rail project effectively castrates both the SS and SE, as exportation of goods will only be through Lagos, thus shackling the two southern regions to the whims of Oba Akiolu et al. This rail project also forces eastern businessmen from establishing businesses in Igboland, thus destroying the industrialisation plans meant for the SE. It must be opposed. The SS will derive more benefit from seaports in terms of finances accruable to host state governments from shipping activities than from mere tracks meant to tie the eastern economic fortunes to the west. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 10:08am On Apr 14, 2016 |
OfoIgbo:Okay, this coastal rail project benefits the SS more than the SE so the entire opposition of ipob youths for this project is beginning to make sense. You don't give a damn if it benefits the SS, and you don't give a damn if part of the future plans is to have a spur from benin to onitsha, the project must not continue as long as it benefits the SS (which feeds the nation) more than the SE, bravo!!!. But I wonder how your online opposition will stop the SS from benefitting from this if it comes to pass. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by Nobody: 10:20am On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala: My dear, am from the Niger Delta. Our priority now is a deep seaport so that we can emancipate our people from poverty. A seaport will create thousands of jobs and will spur the growth of businesses. Not that I oppose the rail line, but it is NOT an urgent need. How many jobs will it create? And please stop making it look like the igbos oppose the project that will benefit the SS, because in reality; the project only benefits the SW. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by seunajia: 10:20am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Honestly, these iPod guys are totally irredeemable! This is not "ordinary eyes" o. These guys here are actually saying no to development! Wow wow. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by LMFashions: 10:23am On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala: I dey watch u |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by PRXPERT: 10:36am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Realman87:Good response! now people are reasoning!!! This is pure economic politics!!!I'm so happy that our people are waking up.. we see through these hypocrites that are rambling up and down.. 5 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by PRXPERT: 10:37am On Apr 14, 2016 |
seunajia:No they are becoming smarter by the day! they're exposing your tricks! that's why you hate them!! you want them to continue to import through lagos... 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 10:44am On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala:No I am not suggesting that please, they deserve it and much more. People has been insinuating how it crosses the whole length and breadth of SE and even going to extent of claiming how specifically S Easterners and their senators are opposing it. I am self-centered the same way every other regions are, check the chairman of appropriation committee that allocated 4.1b to his constituency. And listen here sir, if you have any connection in any of the federal clinics, hospitals or the likes PLEase just get me a job. Thanks. |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 10:50am On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala:You've started interjecting and insinuating. Very divisive second paragraph you have there. Diabolic self centeredness ...haha what will you call the floating billions that they were trying to merge to Lagos-Kano rail to the detriment of Lagos -Calabar rail. I rapu isi ji I na ama mbazu na ala. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by kayfra: 11:23am On Apr 14, 2016 |
uduak2016: Ladies and gentlemen. Don't be as daft as the OP. Don't cut your nose to spite your face. 6 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 11:25am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Realman87:It is this bit of the reasoning that completely dumbfounds me. Kindly tell me how a rail line going from Calabar-Uyo-IkotEkpene-Aba-PH-Yenagua-Ughelli-Warri-Sapele-Benin-Lagos will benefit the SW more than the people of the SS and SE?... This reasoning is equivalent to saying the East-West road or the Onitsha-Benin-Lagos road benefits or is used more by SW people than the SS and SE. Is there really any written rule somewhere that says Nigerians must try to tribalise everything because we mostly end up making a mockery of ourselves in the process? Nobody argues that a seaport isn't useful, but just like the seaport, the importance of a modernised rail transport system can never be downplayed; there is a reason why a robust modern rail system is a typical feature in developed economies. 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by NwabekeyiSimeon: 11:36am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Some people are truly cursed, envy and hatred has make them insane. Cutting your nose to spite your face. Smh 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 11:47am On Apr 14, 2016 |
TheArchangel:That is exactly my point, I am shell shocked at the reactions of 'some' people who claim to be from the SE and SS and who claim to be defending the interests of the zones since this saga broke. I am very much opposed to the fact that the coastal rail project is being jeopardised and the funds diverted to the Lagos-Kano rail. I expected people of the SE and SS to naturally fight for this injustice to be immediately reversed, and the budget for the coastal rail returned. But that obviously is not the case, most have turned it into a Yoruba vs Igbo tribal war and I am greatly shocked at the reactions I have seen so far which drives me to wonder how any normal human would chose to cut their head off to spite their nose. If the project funds were diverted to fund seaports or other viable projects in the regions, then it is understandable, but for crying out loud, the funds were diverted to the Lagos-Kano line and some silly constituency projects in the north. My dear, the proverb you dropped is more suited for you and your colleagues who aren't speaking in favour of the reversal of this mess. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by scorpio2013: 12:03pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Come to think of it, what is the volume of trade or even human traffic between south south and south west.What can you take from Calabar to south west to justfy this project?quote author=uduak2016 post=44681147]I have seen numerous doctored drawing of the Lagos-Calabar Rail route supposedly crossing into SE...THIS IS A LIE! SW people are employing this shenanigan to resurrect the project by deceiving SE people that the Rail will cross into SE..precisely at Onitsha! This is a fathom Lie! I'm getting accurate information from someone at the National Assembly that the real reason why they excise the project from the primary budget is...MARGINALIZED SE; WILL NOT CROSS INTO SE. Indirectly speaking, when you marginalized SE, you marginalize SS economically as both regions trade more compared to other regions. So rather, they moved to Supplementary Budget...explanation below! You people have to understand how Federal Budget works...Every region has a stipulated amount cap they can submit in the budget; If SS primarily and SE did allow this project into the main budget, then SS will be short-changed heavily... why? Because 80 Billion Naira cost; China footing 20 billion naira actually, if apportioned between SW and SS is a huge cost for SS... when compared to SW, where Federal Budget for Lagos only is total of all SS; The senators having done their cost-benefit analysis of the project for SE and SS, came to the conclusion that it wasn't feasible and will not be beneficial to SE and SS. So rather than have the project in the main budget which will mean removing critical, life-changing projects in SS in order to accommodate it, they agreed and chose to move it to the supplemental budget at no cost to SS, where the president by discretion/executive leverage chooses projects to fund with federal funds...more like earmarked funds! The question now becomes...Will Buhari include the project in his supplementary budget? I doubt because he would have to remove 80 billon naira worth of projects in the North for his people to include it because he has a cap too...that's what SS and SE senators want him to do...Lol! Smart game by Eastern senators as it would be a win-win for the region! Even Ameachi consented to this by moving it to the supplemental! To SW people...stop selling lies to us. Please stop! The project wasn't removed as has been circulating online with deceptive doctored route into SE but rather was moved from main budget to supplementary. We are not against the project, we...SW, SS and SE all want the project but has to be funded via supplementary budget only in order not to bankrupt SS...SE is just looking after SS! Below is the actual image of the Lagos-Calabar Rail route by the Nigeria Coastal Railway...as you can see, it doesn't cross into SE as they are claiming. Their intent behind this deceptive, doctored supposed rail crossing into SE...is to deceive SE to support the project! Our SE and SS senators are not stu$pid...they analyzed the project critically on its benefits to SE and SS. None for now to have it in the main budget! [/quote] |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 12:13pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala:Do not behave as if didn't see my appeal for job somewhere. The long epistles can wait when I get the job. |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by TheArchangel(f): 12:14pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
obailala:Do not behave as if you didn't see my appeal for job somewhere. The long epistles can wait when I get the job. |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by raumdeuter: 12:42pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Since the rail doesn't pass through Oyo Osun and Ekiti states, senators from those places too should oppose it In 20yrs time buhari would be gone amaechi would be gone probably there would be no PDP or apc. Then your children would ask why there's a rail to kano but none to Calabar 6 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by obailala(m): 12:49pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
TheArchangel:My dear, silver nor gold nor job links, I have none. But all I can do is to wish you good luck and also tell you that it will not be long before you get the right job which you could never dream about. 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by JuliettaBitch(f): 1:12pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
God bless th Op for this! Ndi ofe mmanu, una see una life? |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by seunajia: 1:12pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
PRXPERT: You mad bro? A rail line that'd transverse the length and integrate southern Nigeria is a trick. Come, dem dey follow you? Do you know the impact of having train stations/stops in towns? Tourism, agriculture, human transport? You know what, don't bother. Contunu, you're doing yasef. 3 Likes
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Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by kayfra: 1:35pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
JuliettaBitch: Smh. How humans can't use their God given organs amaze me. The brain is meant for thinking and I am sure you have the capacity to think. Think! 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by PRXPERT: 2:36pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
seunajia:I think the meme should be for you! The project will make south south a consuming region!!! I know what I'm saying!!! for example, go to any shop in bayelsa! 80percent of the contents are either foreign or from lagos, then this time around, it will be 100percent! this will kill every indigenous company in bayelsa.. we Igbos reason with our innermost brain that is designated for business, that's why we are seeing through this joke of a project... it were Abakaliki enugu onitsha Asaba akure sagamu lagos, we will still oppose it.... we know what you are capable of doing... 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Calabar Supposed Rail Route Crossing Into SE Is A FAT LIE!!! by kayfra: 2:41pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
PRXPERT: Fresh fish caught in Bayelsa will be available for sale in Lagos in 3 hours. Containers of "stuff" from Aba will be available for sale and export in Lagos within a few hours. Having a brain is not a luxury. Use yours. 3 Likes |
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