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What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 2:56pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
I know a lot of stuff is preached in naija about demon possession and spiritual attacks and spiritual warfare etc etc etc. The spirits even have names. Can someone please tell me what a "familiar sprirt" is, what it does, how it was identified and named, what bible verses refer to this spirit(s), and any other spirit you might be familiar (no pun intended) with. Are there even any others? Thank u. Tudor abeg soffly soffly |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 3:30pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
The deliverance ministry is a complex arena. very complex. and yes spirits do have names! |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Ogaga4Luv(m): 3:34pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
". . .What Is A Familiar Spirit?" The word familiar is from the Latin familiaris, meaning a "household servant," and is intended to express the idea that sorcerers had spirits as their servants ready to obey their commands. Those attempting to contact the dead, usually have some sort of spirit guide who communicates with them. These are familiar spirits. To this day, familiar spirits (demons) are under the control of Our master, Satan. Some avenues through which demons, a.k.a. "familiar spirits," can gain entrance into a person's life are divination, transcendental meditation, visualization, necromancy, witchcraft, drugs, and alcohol. These are all activities i commanded even to put into life practice.Instead, we are to be filled with the Higher-power's from darkest force, with love, with joy, and with the fullness of life that comes from SATAN. We are also to be on guard. |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 3:41pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
Ogaga4Luv: Did Satan reveal this to you personally? Where does the doctrine of satanism come from? posakosa: The only name i know is familiar spirit. What are the other names? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by JeSoul(f): 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
Krayola, I didn't know either how that term came to be, it is not in the bible. So I hopped over to wiki and found this, hope it helps. Apparently the term/concept did not originate in Nigeria. A familiar spirit, imp, or familiar (from Middle English familiar, related to family) is an animal-shaped spirit who serves for witchery, a demon, or other magician-related subjects.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiar_spirit |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 4:03pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
Krayola2: Do you live in Nigeria ? Well I know many people in the deliverance ministry, Water Spirit (mami water) Snake Spirit Satan/Devil Witchcraft/Wizards spirit Spirit Husband/water Spirits in the air, land, and sea Antichrist Obangje Spirit of Death and Hell Spirit of Poverty Spirit of almost there and many more |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Tudor6(f): 6:20pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
Krayola2:Haba. . .wetin you bin expect say i go do. . .raise hell? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 11:14pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
posakosa: I don't live in Nigeria. I live in North America. posakosa: I never knew there was a separate type of ministry for deliverance. Are they the ones that diagnose what type of demon/spirit is troubling the person? posakosa: that's a lot of spirits Is there a specific bible verse or prayer and deliverance specialist for each type of spirit or is it a one-size-fits-all type thing? Sorry if i'm asking too many questions. . . just really curious about this stuff. Tudór: haha. I know say u be loose cannon. . .u no send nobody! |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 11:18pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
@ Jeseoul @ Ogaga4luv. thanks for the replies. that stuff was helpful |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by noetic2: 11:38pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
posakosa: that was hilarious. . . .spirit of almost there . . . .wetin man no go hear again! |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 11:42pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
noetic2: What is so funny about that? U don't believe in it so it's ok to laugh at it? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by noetic2: 11:43pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
Krayola2: sounds like u believe is spirits?. . . . .huh? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 11:49pm On Aug 07, 2009 |
I don't believe in spirits. But maybe i should. . . It seems like there are a lot of them You do though. . . don't u? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 12:09am On Aug 08, 2009 |
Krayola2: Well, if you live in North America, you can't really experience the deliverance ministry like that, its more prominent in Nigeria. Yes, after much counseling they provide a diagnosis. Yes, there are lots of spirits and yes, there are specific bible verses. No there is not a deliverance specialist for each spirit. A deliverance minister should be trained to address the various types of spirits. btw, How old are you ? You really have to believe in this stuff to want to "go there" because these spirits fight back. Often times many people don't believe until they experience such. |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 12:13am On Aug 08, 2009 |
noetic2: Abi now, There are some people who "almost get there" and then last minute things just fall apart. Some deliverance ministers attribute such to a spirit. It prevents people from getting to where they are supposed to be in life. |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Krayola2(m): 12:53am On Aug 08, 2009 |
posakosa: I grew up in Nigeria, though, and I never heard about those types of spirits before. Is it a new thing or have u always known about it? posakosa: Do u know any books I can read about it? If there is a church that sells that type of literature please let me know and I can find one of their branches here and check it out. posakosa: Can u please give me an example? posakosa: I'm 20+++. posakosa: Dont worry. . I'm a bad guy!!! I sabi tae-kwon-do posakosa: Do u believe in it? I know that is kinda personal so u don't have to respond. . .but did u have to experience it to believe it? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Recognise: 2:31pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
JeSoul: @JeSoul Not in the Bible really? . . . Anyway Krayola check out these below references . . . Leviticus 19:31: Leviticus 20:6: Deuteronomy 18:10-11: 1 Samuel 28:7: 2 Kings 23:24: Isaiah 8:19: [center]"While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."[/center] |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by JeSoul(f): 5:25pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
Well I'll be damned Thanks Recognise, I haven't seen the exact phrase before because I am guilty of being an unrepentant NIV user which does not use the term 'familiar'. But yeah thanks for setting me straight. |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Recognise: 5:56pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
JeSoul: @JeSoul - JeSoul Jay its aiight! . . . Was surprised at your oversight considering your knack with the word but hey the ommission is making sense now that you admitted the NIV partiality, I use all available translations/versions to gain an almost comprehensive idea of what's usually happening . . . I lay them out in parallel, and literally "chew up the chicken & spit out the bones" if you know what I mean To be honest with you, KJV is your best bet, yep can be a pain at times to comprehend and/or follow but when used inconjunction with other translations the scales fall off By the way I've been a long admirer of your music . . . its brilliant and your postings/responses among a list of other posters, I ardently follow, check and read . . . PS: Also know you were joking but still you aint damned, and need to watch that because: Proverbs 6:2 (KJV) - Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth. Something like if you dont mean it, dont say or think it like [center]"While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."[/center] |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by mamagee6(f): 7:12pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
A spirit that you are familiar with. |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by noetic2: 7:47pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
Krayola2: yes I do. . . .but not in a superstitious way. why are u so bothered about spirits?. . . .are u convinced that u are possessed by an evil spirit? |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by JeSoul(f): 10:13pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
@Recognise, you'd be suprised at how many things I don't know . That's why we need other believers around so we can sharpen each other and you've sharpened me just a lil bit today . You're right in that the KJV is the "purest" of translations and a lot of the time the power with which certain phrases were spoken get watered down with each new translation. But I wouldn't trade the ease of understanding & simplicity of versions like the NIV for the KJV. Funny enough I was "brought up" with the KJV so I know all my memory verses in KJV lol. But yeah there's much merit to using all versions during study . . . something I should apparently do more of and I am thrilled you enjoy the music that's a blessing to hear. If you're so inclined shoot me your email address and I'll send you some. Godbless! |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 11:53pm On Aug 08, 2009 |
Krayola2: Where in Nigeria did you grow up ? These spirits are not a new phenomenon. I have always known about it. One of dad's close friends is a deliverance minister and I've always grew up around this. Makes one a curious cat you know. I think that MFM has popular books on deliverance. Like I said you have to know what you are getting into. Do I believe in it ? Of course I do. But then I also think that many of the people in Nigeria who experience such may also be considered psychiatric patients, Growing up, we had one housemaid who was a witch, its a very long story. But women in their 60s always called her "Mommy" apparently she claimed to be a big woman in the witchcraft realm and she revealed a lot of spiritual things to my momma! Goodluck in your search for knowledge, |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Nobody: 12:23am On Aug 09, 2009 |
Why do all the so called spirit exist only in Nigeria?! |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by posakosa(m): 12:42am On Aug 09, 2009 |
brein: They exist everywhere, Most Africans call it "deliverance," Europeans/Americans refer to it as "Exorcism" |
Re: What Is A Familiar Spirit? by Recognise: 1:03am On Aug 09, 2009 |
JeSoul: @JeSoul - JeSoul Why would anyone use the NIV and use it exclusively for that matter? Jay, am not quite sure how to gently drop this . . . I'll hint you anyway and give you pointers that NIV is dodgy when used all by itself . . . If you know half the story, you'll probably be wary of the NIV and likely drop it like a hot potato NIV is to be used with caution, extreme caution . . . - reiterating by "eating [center][/center] According to Wikipedia.org, the New International Bible (NIV) is the most popular Bible version today. What Zondervan Publishers won't DARE tell you is that they are OWNED by Harper Collins, who also publishes The Satanic Bible and The Joy of Gay Sex. Doesn't it seem odd to anyone and a love for Christ that the world's largest Bible publisher (Zondervan) is owned by the same company, HarperCollins, that publishes The Satanic Bible and The Joy of Gay Sex." Every pastor and Christian using the NIV are supporting these demonic publications. For an idea of the perversions of NIV (i.e. the New International PS: Kay aint got your addy & Krayola2 sorry for the temporary digression [center]"While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."[/center] |
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