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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by trapQ: 1:01am On Sep 05, 2016
Lmao

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 3:06am On Sep 05, 2016
VikingsOO7:

I'm just curious here, what now happens to possessed muslims?

The question isn't about possessed Muslims, its about the efficacy of the Name of Jesus. Muslims do Rukya and I am not an expert in that.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 3:13am On Sep 05, 2016
VikingsOO7:
I still remember the horrible ordeal my family went thru when this demons decided to show their power.

Tell us the gist of what happened
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 3:38am On Sep 05, 2016
Sarassin:


You say that the name of the Buddha will not cast out a demonic infestation and I say you are dead wrong. I agree that the name of Jesus is instrumental in the removal of negative influences but in dealing with exceptionally malign influences one is further ahead to invoke the Archangel Michael who is actually the Divine messenger mandated, and is more of a specialist. However, the removal of demonic infestation is not the exclusive preserve of the Christian paradigm.

There are mere emanations of the Buddha that will cast out demons effectively, and I am not talking about the psychological explorations that pentecostal ministers indulge in. There are emanations of the Buddha that are so powerful that merely to recite the verses required to seek refuge cannot be done without proper transmission, if you have ever had to seek the services of Sengdoma, the Lion-headed dakini in dispelling malign forces I doubt you would ever state that the name of Buddha cannot cast out demons.

Buddhists rarely deal directly with demons. Its more common for a Buddhist to invoke charkras (inner powers) even though in reality, they are invoking demons.

For Buddhists, everything trees, water, air, animals etc are all in sync. My meditation, you tap into there vibrational energies.

Finally, there is a difference between casting out demons and pacifying demons. A lot of what exists is in other religions is in the rhelm of pacification.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by orisa37: 5:25am On Sep 05, 2016
God made Giants. Nephilims were Giants. Specifications are The Light of God in His Humans. The Demons live and operate in Darkness. Those who operate in Darkness are usually short, ugly and have horrible features to hide. No hiding place for Giants. The World is theirs and they're usually tall, handsome and women s men. They are Angels of Light, not Demons of Darkness.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 7:29am On Sep 05, 2016
shadeyinka:


Tell us the gist of what happened
The last time I tried to explain the ordeal here on nairaland, I was called crazy and all sorta of names cheesy I had to close that account.

Its better left unsaid.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 8:12am On Sep 05, 2016
VikingsOO7:

The last time I tried to explain the ordeal here on nairaland, I was called crazy and all sorta of names cheesy I had to close that account.

Its better left unsaid.

I understand.
But I am still curious, can post the like of the old post?

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 8:16am On Sep 05, 2016
orisa37:
God made Giants. Nephilims were Giants. Specifications are The Light of God in His Humans. The Demons live and operate in Darkness. Those who operate in Darkness are usually short, ugly and have horrible features to hide. No hiding place for Giants. The World is theirs and they're usually tall, handsome and women s men. They are Angels of Light, not Demons of Darkness.

Some demons are actually extraordinary Beautiful. Many look like the average human beings and some look like hideous animals.

But in general, they are not classified by looks but by their specialization.

Have you engaged/interacted with one before? Its different from what you read in books oh.

God did NOT create Nephillims. Nephillims are Human-Fallen Ange Hybrid. They are neither Human nor Angels.

There spirits after death are called "Earth Bound". It means they are trapped here on earth until judgement time.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 10:40pm On Sep 05, 2016
shadeyinka:


Buddhists rarely deal directly with demons. Its more common for a Buddhist to invoke charkras (inner powers) even though in reality, they are invoking demons.

For Buddhists, everything trees, water, air, animals etc are all in sync. My meditation, you tap into there vibrational energies.

Finally, there is a difference between casting out demons and pacifying demons. A lot of what exists is in other religions is in the rhelm of pacification.

No sir, you are completely wrong.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 4:26am On Sep 06, 2016
Sarassin:


No sir, you are completely wrong.

Any YouTube link to share?

I am still learning
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 6:08am On Sep 06, 2016
shadeyinka:
Any YouTube link to share?

I am still learning
Hello. Do You think it's reasonable to learn "spiritual" Things via YouTube?

First of all most of what takes place in charismatic churches so called deliverance is not really the cleansing from demonic entities. It would be funny for a 100 mighty powerful beings to inhabit the weak bodies of humans as claimed by Pentecostals, where they would be so much incapacitated and paralyzed.

This is a very wrong notion of who demons are. So you don't think there is the liberation of demonic influences in other religions, simply because you do not clearly know what demons are. At the best these are the manifestation of the human deep psyche.

But let me assure you, in most paradigm there are a set Of people who actually know how to set people free. I think that's what Sarassin is telling you perhaps in a language that's difficult to grasp.

Greetings.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 10:50am On Sep 06, 2016
LoJ:

Hello. Do You think it's reasonable to learn "spiritual" Things via YouTube?

First of all most of what takes place in charismatic churches so called deliverance is not really the cleansing from demonic entities. It would be funny for a 100 mighty powerful beings to inhabit the weak bodies of humans as claimed by Pentecostals, where they would be so much incapacitated and paralyzed.

This is a very wrong notion of who demons are. So you don't think there is the liberation of demonic influences in other religions, simply because you do not clearly know what demons are. At the best these are the manifestation of the human deep psyche.

But let me assure you, in most paradigm there are a set Of people who actually know how to set people free. I think that's what Sarassin is telling you perhaps in a language that's difficult to grasp.

Greetings.


No, I just wanted to see an example. A buhdist casting out demons on YouTube!

Demons are not as strong as we portray them. They most of the times need human cooperation to function. The more you give in to them, the stronger the control they possess over the person.

I am not a Pastor but I have some small experience with casting out demons. So, to an extent, I am talking from experience.

Pls don't get me wrong, it is possible to do an appeasement, substitution or an outright cast out of demons. On the surface, they look alike but they are not the same.

Also, multiple "gangs" of demons can exist in a person. Not all demonic afflictions are possessive in nature. Most demons work covertly in their host.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by smartn09(m): 2:13pm On Sep 06, 2016
Ganjafama:
I really don't know. But it can possess a certain power that can work for the worshipper.
lt can possess power based on the intent of the worshiper.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by smartn09(m): 2:23pm On Sep 06, 2016
shadeyinka:


Hi,
This coming from you is surprising except its just a pun. ...


That semi parallel dimension is the spirit rhelm.

Demons appear sometimes in dreams but sometime in the physical through their host.

Some of the most Bizarre behaviours of men are cause by demons: Eating Feaces, Soil, Kleptomaniacs, Beastiality, Serial Murders etc.

You are correct 95% of us are oblivious to their existence. Since they cannot be seen, we explain them away. As a rule, they prefer a human host, but they will manage some animals or objects(rings, amulets, idols etc).

They work behind the scene and do not appreciate being exposed
lf evil or devilish behaviors are to be attributed to demons, what would you say about their behavior in heaven as an angels before their fall as a fallen angels.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Immorttal: 6:37am On Sep 07, 2016
VikingsOO7:


at bolded, have You tried using those names and they did not work? Or You're just assuming?
Interesting input anyways.
Thanks.
every name works as long as you embedded a lot of energy on it. there are thousands of atheist who use affirmative words,it works.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 12:19am On Sep 08, 2016
LoJ:

Hello. Do You think it's reasonable to learn "spiritual" Things via YouTube?

First of all most of what takes place in charismatic churches so called deliverance is not really the cleansing from demonic entities. It would be funny for a 100 mighty powerful beings to inhabit the weak bodies of humans as claimed by Pentecostals, where they would be so much incapacitated and paralyzed.

This is a very wrong notion of who demons are. So you don't think there is the liberation of demonic influences in other religions, simply because you do not clearly know what demons are. At the best these are the manifestation of the human deep psyche.

But let me assure you, in most paradigm there are a set Of people who actually know how to set people free. I think that's what Sarassin is telling you perhaps in a language that's difficult to grasp.

Greetings.


Hi LoJ, I couldn't have put it better.
OP seems to have defined demons and malevolent entities through the narrow prism of a particular paradigm.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by raphieMontella: 8:48am On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


No. The name of Prophet Mohammed PBUH will not work on demons even though he is revered among Muslims. The name of Buda will not work even though the name is revered by Budists. These two religions have membership in Billions.

The name of Jesus works because it is the seal of Gods power, love and authority upon mankind.

I have been privileged to participate in deliverance ministrations, so I know what I am saying.

I can entertain your questions if you have any.
no bro!
This is wrong..they dont use the terms ''demons and angels'' but they have their own style of it..
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 8:56am On Sep 08, 2016
I don't believe in demons, therefore they don't exist undecided tongue
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 9:02am On Sep 08, 2016
raphieMontella:

no bro!
This is wrong..they dont use the terms ''demons and angels'' but they have their own style of it..

Don't get me wrong, Muslims perform what is called Rukya (that is what Christian will term deliverance) on Jinns(demons).

They use mainly some special recitations from the Quran (some use in addition special waters, oils etc). But generally some verses are recited fro the Holy Quran.

The namebof Prophet Mohammed is NOT invoked as a means to free a person from Jinns.

Muslims in the house can come in and substantiate or castigate this
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 9:50am On Sep 08, 2016
smartn09:
lt can possess power based on the intent of the worshiper.

Demons have specialities. A demon that causes a form of cancer cannot give weather to the adherents. Neither is a demon of protection from cutlass do the work of enchantment.

However, the bottom line remains that there is a HIGH COST and payment to be PAID. No one determines what demons will take in exchange for their help...it could even be your life.

Its like a Help fro Shylock!

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 9:53am On Sep 08, 2016
smartn09:
lf evil or devilish behaviors are to be attributed to demons, what would you say about their behavior in heaven as an angels before their fall as a fallen angels.

Demons are not fallen angels. They are Hybrids - neither Human nor Angels. That is why they have so many human and animal characteristics. Theybare trapped here on earth till judgment day.

They hate humans with a passion
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 9:55am On Sep 08, 2016
Immorttal:
every name works as long as you embedded a lot of energy on it. there are thousands of atheist who use affirmative words,it works.

Sorry! You are not correct. Even Atheists will disagree with you based on this your theory because atheists do not believe in the existence of spirits.

How can one control that which doesn't exist?
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 9:58am On Sep 08, 2016
Sarassin:


Hi LoJ, I couldn't have put it better.
OP seems to have defined demons and malevolent entities through the narrow prism of a particular paradigm.

Yes that is true..but surprisingly he seems to have a better grasp than many Christians. He isn't 60% correct anyway but I give him a pass mark
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 10:00am On Sep 08, 2016
CrazyQuinn:
I don't believe in demons, therefore they don't exist undecided tongue

Just like an Ostrich who buries her head in the sand.

I don't believe in Atoms thereforebthey don't exist! What an argument.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Nobody: 10:03am On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


Just like an Ostrich who buries her head in the sand.

I don't believe in Atoms thereforebthey don't exist! What an argument.
believing is seeing not the other way around, what you don't believe you wont see, that's way the universe works, we are free to believe anything tongue
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by raphieMontella: 11:55am On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


Don't get me wrong, Muslims perform what is called Rukya (that is what Christian will term deliverance) on Jinns(demons).

They use mainly some special recitations from the Quran (some use in addition special waters, oils etc). But generally some verses are recited fro the Holy Quran.

The namebof Prophet Mohammed is NOT invoked as a means to free a person from Jinns.
at the end the person becomes free...it doesnt have to be by name..
A name of a god is not a standard for delivering the supposed demons..
U catch?

Muslims in the house can come in and substantiate or castigate this
the style of the practise of your religion is not a standard for religion!
So thats their own style...
Like budhists..they use meditation etc to achieve the level of manipulating ''chi energy'' for healing etc..thats thier own form of healing laid out by budha...it doesnt have to be budha's name...
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by smartn09(m): 12:29pm On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


Demons have specialities. A demon that causes a form of cancer cannot give weather to the adherents. Neither is a demon of protection from cutlass do the work of enchantment.

However, the bottom line remains that there is a HIGH COST and payment to be PAID. No one determines what demons will take in exchange for their help...it could even be your life.

Its like a Help fro Shylock!
Hahahaha....... I would want to let you know that every successful human on earth is or has worked with groups of demons to achieve their positive ends, they are under the authority of man . They are not evil as you think unless you, as human, who dishes out instructions to them is evil. They are fallen angels and they want to regain most of their natural gift by serving human neither do they serve us for any payment. I'm a conjurer , if you would want an ancient knowledge on demon , spirits and demonology , l think we may discuss it outside the forum. Not even the pontiffs performs their work successfully without demon assistance. They are the gods of the earth and everything therein.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 4:53pm On Sep 08, 2016
CrazyQuinn:
believing is seeing not the other way around, what you don't believe you wont see, that's way the universe works, we are free to believe anything tongue

..and for many, denial is equated with Truth. Yes we are Free to believe anything even a LIE!
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 5:10pm On Sep 08, 2016
raphieMontella:

at the end the person becomes free...it doesnt have to be by name..
A name of a god is not a standard for delivering the supposed demons..
U catch?

I do not want to speak for Muslims. I stated what I know.
The discussion was about the Efficacy of the Name of Jesus which I concur because I have used it and I know it works.

The second issue was that ANY revered name works and I said NO. The Name of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) will not work. My submission is that Even Muslim Clerics who perform Rukya don't use the name of prophet Mohammed (pbuh).

I do not want to be dragged into an interreligious debate. I have explained earlier that there are three major means of solving a person demonic problems
1. Substitution
2. Appeasement
3. Eviction

I can speak about Christianity, we neither Substitute nor Appease Demons. We EVICT demons. As a proof, ask the average Christian the question: Are there any good demons?

In religions where Substitution or Appeasement is done, there are Good and Bad Demons

raphieMontella:

the style of the practise of your religion is not a standard for religion!
So thats their own style...
Like budhists..they use meditation etc to achieve the level of manipulating ''chi energy'' for healing etc..thats thier own form of healing laid out by budha...it doesnt have to be budha's name...

Demons can only be forcefully ejected. They are like parasites that infest a host.

I guess you have no personal experience in this field, you talk too much theory. What you read in books is different from reality.

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Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by Immorttal: 6:38pm On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


Sorry! You are not correct. Even Atheists will disagree with you based on this your theory because atheists do not believe in the existence of spirits.

How can one control that which doesn't exist?
atheism simply is a disbelieve in God or gods, jehovah, zeus ,ekin, amadioha etc i do not believe the universe was created by any known god so i own no reverence or adulation to any imaginary God. i went thru your previous mentions and realised you misinterpreted my stance or believe . you found it so hard to embrace the reality that a certain atheist believe in unseen energies, witches and wizards,"demons", astral plane and consciousness that survives physical existence [after life]and many more but refuses to acknowledge Gods existence. there are no gods that created humans or the entire universe, but there are other realms hidden from the human eyes. satan,jesus or god was an invention to balance the book [opposer and proposer],they do not exist actually. i,m ready to engage in a constructive arguement with you. keep them rolling.
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by raphieMontella: 8:04pm On Sep 08, 2016
shadeyinka:


I do not want to speak for Muslims. I stated what I know.
The discussion was about the Efficacy of the Name of Jesus which I concur because I have used it and I know it works.
ifa''ogun's name is also alledgedly efficient..so?

The second issue was that ANY revered name works and I said NO.
traditionalists...grab?


I guess you have no personal experience in this field, you talk too much theory.
i live in a world of physicality..
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences...
.
What you read in books is different from reality.
this is an absurd claim tho!
Budhists do not ''manipulate chi''?
Psychology..u see the brain is highly prone to deceit....and subject to a lot of cognitive biases...even something as little as a variation of the size of a plate used in serving food can decieve this ''powerful brain''...
So basically..
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences
Re: Demonology 101: 25 Facts About Demons by shadeyinka(m): 10:50pm On Sep 08, 2016
Immorttal:
atheism simply is a disbelieve in God or gods, jehovah, zeus ,ekin, amadioha etc i do not believe the universe was created by any known god so i own no reverence or adulation to any imaginary God. i went thru your previous mentions and realised you misinterpreted my stance or believe . you found it so hard to embrace the reality that a certain atheist believe in unseen energies, witches and wizards,"demons", astral plane and consciousness that survives physical existence [after life]and many more but refuses to acknowledge Gods existence. there are no gods that created humans or the entire universe, but there are other realms hidden from the human eyes. satan,jesus or god was an invention to balance the book [opposer and proposer],they do not exist actually. i,m ready to engage in a constructive arguement with you. keep them rolling.

No need to engage in any argument. Yours is a different form of the classical definition of Atheism.

I I understand you correctly, You believe that non physical entities eg demons exist in paralel to man but you don't believe that any god created the universe.

Congratulations!

One day you will stand with your "friends" who by choice you chose over the One who loves you. Its not yet too late for you!

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