AbdelKabir:


You had better don't burst like a watermelon

Like I said, you are being corrected for saying nonsense, if you don't want deviants to be given terms, then the first person you should correct is the prophet himself....

nurshah:


I pity you ... Your type are those who give Islam a bad name. You come on a public forum and lack manners ..use harsh words and feel you know it all .do you even research ?

The first person I should correct ..is who !!!!!!?? Subhanallah!
May Allah forgive us all,ameen

nurshah:



Subhanallah! Who are you reffering to as infidel ? Please , let's be mindful on pur choice of words...

AlBaqir:


# Dear sir/ma, If you really want to read and learn on this forum, you need to close your eyes on some nasty comments from known nuisances one of them is the unrepentant above.

They have a usual ploy to derail threads and frustrate their opponent with abusive words especially if they have nothing academical and substantial to submit. Whoever did not buy their weird ideology is damned.

They have been programmed to hate shia/rafidha no matter what. Imagine, more than 50% of narrators of their prestigious Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (not to mention other Sunnis classical books of ahadith) were reportedly by Sunni historian, Mufassir, muhadith to be Shia/rafidha. They can never reason that the moment shia are believed (by their weird ideology) to be Kuffar, then automatically, those narrators were equally Kuffar and that alone render useless the entire books of Bukhari and Muslim which they held in very high esteem.

# Furthermore, there are several authentic records in Sunni books which exposed several Sahabah to be Shia. In fact the word " Shi'a of Ali" was used in Mutawattir hadith by the Prophet himself. Severally I have challenged these hard heartened guys on these ahadith yet they are arrogantly adamant. And that is the programming I was talking about.

# Lastly, for whoever cares: Nabi Never used bad words or name calling for anyone. Quran testified to his exalted manners to every sundry. Any hadith that present Nabi otherwise is no doubt lying upon the personality of the noble Prophet, peace be upon him and his household.


Narrated `Abdullah bin `Amr:

"The Prophet (s) never used bad language neither a "Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say "The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character." (See Hadith No. 56 (B) Vol.

Reference  : Sahih al-Bukhari 3559 
In-book reference  : Book 61, Hadith 68 
USC-MSA web (English) reference  : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 759 

www.sunnah.com/Bukhari/61

That is the illustration of my Prophet.

Wa Salam.

Empiree:
^^^
Shia are muslim and the nonsense propaganda that some of them dont believe Quran is complete is rubbish. There is no such thing. Whatever is written by some people who made the claim does not proof anything. Many sunni scholars have been to Shia headoffice (Iran). Shia ulama denied such claim.
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AlBaqir:


[s]# Dear sir/ma, If you really want to read and learn on this forum, you need to close your eyes on some nasty comments from known nuisances one of them is the unrepentant above.

They have a usual ploy to derail threads and frustrate their opponent with abusive words especially if they have nothing academical and substantial to submit. Whoever did not buy their weird ideology is damned.

They have been programmed to hate shia/rafidha no matter what. Imagine, more than 50% of narrators of their prestigious Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (not to mention other Sunnis classical books of ahadith) were reportedly by Sunni historian, Mufassir, muhadith to be Shia/rafidha. They can never reason that the moment shia are believed (by their weird ideology) to be Kuffar, then automatically, those narrators were equally Kuffar and that alone render useless the entire books of Bukhari and Muslim which they held in very high esteem.

# Furthermore, there are several authentic records in Sunni books which exposed several Sahabah to be Shia. In fact the word " Shi'a of Ali" was used in Mutawattir hadith by the Prophet himself. Severally I have challenged these hard heartened guys on these ahadith yet they are arrogantly adamant. And that is the programming I was talking about.

# Lastly, for whoever cares: Nabi Never used bad words or name calling for anyone. Quran testified to his exalted manners to every sundry. Any hadith that present Nabi otherwise is no doubt lying upon the personality of the noble Prophet, peace be upon him and his household.


Narrated `Abdullah bin `Amr:

"The Prophet (s) never used bad language neither a "Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say "The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character." (See Hadith No. 56 (B) Vol.

Reference  : Sahih al-Bukhari 3559 
In-book reference  : Book 61, Hadith 68 
USC-MSA web (English) reference  : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 759 

www.sunnah.com/Bukhari/61

That is the illustration of my Prophet.

Wa Salam.[/s]

More and more chest beating!!!

AbdelKabir:
^^ yet you believe the prophet "cursed" muawiyyah

Hypocrisy level 100%

nurshah:



Subhanallah! Who are you reffering to as infidel ? Please , let's be mindful on pur choice of words...

Newnas:


A person insults Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman and curses Muawiyah and Aishah the wife of the Prophet and calls some of them infidel. rodiyaLLaahu anhum. You keep mute from that and instead attack the one who calls this nonentity an infidel.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 22:
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَىٰ

That indeed is a division most unfair!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Newnas:


A person insults Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman and curses Muawiyah and Aishah the wife of the Prophet and calls some of them infidel. rodiyaLLaahu anhum. You keep mute from that and instead attack the one who calls this nonentity an infidel.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 22:
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَىٰ

That indeed is a division most unfair!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

AlBaqir:
JABATA: TARAWIH IS BID'AH (Part I)

In the Name of Allāh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful

CLAIMS

Shaykh Muḥammad ‘Alī Jabata in his taped lecture entitled Aqeedah as-Sufiyyah (Oyo, Oyo State) – part, from 01:35:38 mins – 01:40:10 mins, states:
https://voiceofthesalaf.files./2014/08/jbt-aqqsuufis1.mp3


"Firstly, what is called tahajjud is qiyām al-layl. The Prophet, peace be upon him, used to pray this qiyām al-layl, in his home. Qiyām al-layl is performed at home. What is called qiyām is: after praying al-‘Ishā, you sleep. Then you wake up at midnight, maybe 3:00 am or 2:30 am or 3:30 am. You have to wake up at midnight. Then, you do the wuḍū (ablution), and start praying that nāfilah. The Prophet used to pray eleven rak’ahs only, whether in Ramaḍān or at other times. He would pray two rak’ahs, then do the taslīm, then another two rak’ahs, then another taslīm; then another two rak’ahs, then another taslīm; then another two rak’ahs, then another taslīm; then another two rak’ahs – which you call al-shaf’ – and then another taslīm; and then a single ra’kah – which you call al-witr. Then he would end the prayer. When you are in prostration, you should make any supplication you like, as directed by the Prophet. After the taḥiyyat, before the taslīm, you are free to make any du’ā you like. This is what is called tahajjud. If it is not in Ramaḍān, it is prayed individually. In Ramaḍān, it is that same prayer which you call tarāwīḥ. It is it.

That prayer which is called tarāwīḥ is that same tahajjud and qiyām al-layl. In Ramaḍān, you have to pray it exactly as described. After finishing the ‘Ishā prayer in Ramaḍān, you go home to sleep. Then, you return to the mosque at midnight. I am telling you how the Prophet used to pray it. Then, the Imām leads the prayer. He prays two rak’ahs, followed by taslīm, four times. Then, he prays two rak’ahs, which you call al-shaf’, followed with taslīm. Then, he prays one ra’kah and does the taslīm. This is what is called tarāwīḥ. The Prophet used to pray it at midnight, not after al-‘Ishā. After al-‘Ishā, if the Imām wants to pray tarāwīḥ, do not join him. Go home. Leave the Imām to pray it alone. Go home and sleep well. Then, wake up at midnight and pray it in congregation. The Imām should come to the mosque at midnight to lead it. It is his job. Why is it that they only go to naming and marriage ceremonies, and do not come to lead you in prayer? They should be coming to pray that one. This is what has evidence.

In Ramaḍān, it is performed in congregation, and one has to go out of the house to pray it. And it is for men only. Women are excluded. This is because there is a verse which commands women, saying: “You women, stay at home! And do not come out except if there is an important reason.” [sic] Also, a woman came to the Prophet and said, “O Prophet! I wish to be praying behind you in your mosque.” Meanwhile, it is far more rewarding to pray in the Prophet’s Mosque in al-Madīnah than to do so anywhere else. Despite that, the Prophet said: “No. Go back to your house. If you pray in your house, it is more rewarding than if you pray in my mosque.” He said it to a woman. The men used to pray with the Prophet in the mosque. So, in Ramaḍān, a woman must never join the congregational prayer in the mosque. She must stay in her house and perform the nāfilah prayers there."


OUR INVESTIGATIONS

We agree with Shaykh Jabata that what our Sunnī brothers call tarāwīḥ is exactly the same thing as tahajjud and qiyām al-layl. All three terms refer to the same nāfilah prayer. We also agree with him that tahajjud is not limited to the nights of Ramaḍān only. Rather, it runs continuously throughout the year. We further agree with him that the correct starting period of tarāwīḥ – in Ramaḍān or at any other time – is between 2:30 am and 3:30 am, at midnight, and not between 8:30 pm and 9:00 pm (as it is currently practised in Nigeria). Therefore, the prayer which Nigerian Sunnī Muslims perform immediately after al-‘Ishā, during the nights of Ramaḍān, is DIFFERENT from tarāwīḥ, tahajjud and qiyām al-layl. In Islam, you cannot perform any prayer before its time – whether it is obligatory or voluntary. As such, that prayer after al-‘Ishā is NOT tarāwīḥ (even though Nigerian Sunnīs wrongly call it that), and it has absolutely no evidence from Allāh and His Messenger (peace be upon him and his family). It is a clear bid’ah. Whosoever disagrees, we challenge him to:


(i) present any Sunnī ḥadīth – whether authentic or ḍa’īf – which proves that the Messenger of Allāh (peace be upon him and his family) ever led the Ṣaḥābah in tarāwīḥ immediately after al-‘Ishā for 29 or 30 nights of Ramaḍān; or

(ii) quote any Sunnī ḥadīth – whether reliable or not – which shows that the Prophet ever recommended or approved any such prayers.


No creature throughout the seven heavens or the earth can meet this simple challenge. This is where the Shaykh himself runs into trouble. We challenge him and his followers – and any Sunnī in any part of the cosmos – to show us any reliable or ḍa’īf Sunnī report which establishes that the Messenger ever performed tarāwīḥ, tahajjud or qiyām al-layl – whatever you wish to call it – in congregation, at any period of the night, for 29 or 30 nights of any Ramaḍān! There is simply no such report in any book on this planet, or in any other planet, or throughout the seven heavens! The Prophet of Allāh never did that, and you will never be able to quote even a single ḍa’īf or fabricated ḥadīth which claims that he did (2:24):

"And if you cannot do this; and you will not be able to do this; then beware the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, it has been prepared for the rejecters."

Interestingly, Shaykh Jabata himself performs tarāwīḥ in congregation for 29 or 30 nights of Ramaḍān – something that the Prophet never did, recommended or approved!

So, if we look at some Sunnī aḥādīth, the Ahl al-Sunnah can only pray tarāwīḥ in some nights of Ramaḍān, at midnight. But, even those tarāwīḥ prayers which the Messenger of Allāh performed – in congregation – in some nights of Ramaḍān were later abrogated by him. Imām al-Bukhārī has recorded in his Ṣaḥīḥ (English translation), vol. 9, Book 92, Ḥadīth 393:
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/96/21

Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) took a room made of date palm leaves mats in the mosque. Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) prayed in it FOR A FEW NIGHTS till the people gathered (to pray the night prayer (Tarawih) (behind him.) Then on the 4th night the people did not hear his voice and they thought he had slept, so some of them started humming in order that he might come out. The Prophet (peace be upon him) then said, "You continued doing what I saw you doing till I was afraid that this (Tarawih prayer) might be enjoined on you, and if it were enjoined on you, you would not continue performing it. Therefore, O people! Perform your prayers AT YOUR HOMES, for the best prayer of a person is what is performed at his home except the compulsory congregational) prayer."


Al-Bukhārī further records in his Ṣaḥīḥ (English translation), vol. 1, Book 11, Ḥadīth 698:
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/10/125

Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) made a small room in the month of Ramadan (Sa`id said, "I think that Zaid bin Thabit said that it was made of a mat" and he prayed there for A FEW NIGHTS, and so some of his companions prayed behind him. When he came to know about it, he kept on sitting. In the morning, he went out to them and said, "I have seen and understood what you did. You should pray IN YOUR HOUSES, for the best prayer of a person is that which he prays in his house except the compulsory prayers."


We know from these two reports that the Prophet led tarāwīḥ for only three nights. Then, he abrogated it, and commanded his Ṣaḥābah to perform it only at home. So, why do our Sunnī brothers perform it continuously for 29 or 30 nights in the mosque? What is your evidence for that? Rather, why pray it at all, since the Messenger of Allāh had already abrogated its congregational form before his death?

By Ansorul Mahdi Research Team
http://jabatacheck..com.ng/2016/05/jabata-tarawih-is-bidah-part-i.html

AlBaqir:



Obviously, the so-called Tarawih/Asamu is Bid'ah.

OK!!!

Next?!