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Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Beaf: 10:15pm On Aug 24, 2009
sjeezy8:

WHY ARE USING TRIBE DID YOU SEE LAGOSIAN YORUBA PROTEST WHEN THEY SENT OYO PEOPLE PACKING? NO

If anything i can agree with is the fact lag[b][/b]osian care about Lagos state and that is the same with every state in Nigeria.

Whats your point? Have you seen Northerners protesting?
You are supportting my arguments by the very fact that you have mentioned your ethnic group were it wasn't neccessary.

Step outside yourself for a minute and you will easily see that your arguments have a strong etnic bias and more alarmingly you refer to Lagos with terms that should be reserved for a sovereign country.

A regrettable action was taken by Fashola.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 10:17pm On Aug 24, 2009
sjeezy8:

lol you are fooling yourself lol omg and that is why Nigeria poverty rate is increasing. Look at America they protect their by all means.

America as whole is half of a continent. And America is a conglomeration of many states that agreed to become a Union.

Europe after many bitter wars have finally realised that a region united by political and economic centre is more strong that smaller tiny entity.

That is the idea of ECOWAS. It is not about protecting meager resources. It is about harnessing the larger benefits of human and perharps material resouces. I know we are not America. We are Africans. If not because of Economic & political instability we would hav bn using the same currency by now just like
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 10:18pm On Aug 24, 2009
Beaf:

Whats your point? Have you seen Northerners protesting?
You are supportting my arguments by the very fact that you have mentioned your ethnic group were it wasn't neccessary.

A regrettable action was taken by Fashola.

so why did you state tribe as number 1 you make no sense
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by nex(m): 10:19pm On Aug 24, 2009
@sjeezy

you're wrong.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Beaf: 10:24pm On Aug 24, 2009
@Hauwa
Its the Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut (Russia). It should be in service by 2011 (sjeezy8 needs one to deport beggars cool).
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
I couldn't resist it, here it is again. . .

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Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 10:29pm On Aug 24, 2009
Tsiya:

America as whole is half of a continent. And America is a conglomeration of many states that agreed to become a Union.

Europe after many bitter wars have finally realised that a region united by political and economic centre is more strong that smaller tiny entity.

That is the idea of ECOWAS. It is not about protecting meager resources. It is about harnessing the larger benefits of human and perharps material resouces. I know we are not America. We are Africans. If not because of Economic & political instability we would hav bn using the same currency by now just like

Incase you didn't know this is africa and that doesn't work. Which is why Everyone is flocking to Nigeria. We dont need anymore more illiterate people who dont pay TAXES. In europe that would work because it has western education but many Africans reject education and continue to roam wherever fits them best.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by LadyT(f): 10:33pm On Aug 24, 2009
23 pages? now I need to read from page 11 *shakes fist*
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 10:42pm On Aug 24, 2009
OMG!!! SHUT UP AND DROP THE SUBJECT.

YOU ALL LOOK LIKE IDIOTS SITTING HERE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER OVER NOTHING.
WHAT IS THAT DOING ABOUT THE BEGGERS?
WHAT IS ARGUING GOING TO DO?
OR ISNT STUPID TRIBALISM AND TRIBALISTIC PEOPLE LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE WHY NIGERIA IS IN THE CURRENT STATE THAT IT'S IN?
PLEASE!!!!!!

OMG, EVERYONE JUST CLOSE THAT HOLE IN YOUR FACE.
SHEESH!
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by tarano: 10:43pm On Aug 24, 2009
LadyT you can put a report together that completely summarizes all the point pro and cons the decision of the lagos state Government. 23 pages of ideas is a place to start,
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by nex(m): 10:45pm On Aug 24, 2009
@THE AMAKA

you better be careful the way you throw insults about and restrict your radar to "your people" not everybody on Nairaland is a child. Behave yourself.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 10:48pm On Aug 24, 2009
yawn!
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 10:58pm On Aug 24, 2009
sjeezy8:

Incase you didn't know this is africa and that doesn't work. Which is why Everyone is flocking to Nigeria. We dont need anymore more illiterate people who dont pay TAXES. In europe that would work because it has western education but many Africans reject education and continue to roam wherever fits them best.

Incase you have forgotten America as a country is formed by many states, who by then have no western education. The idea of unity have nothing to do with going to school. Even in more develop society not everybody go to school. The idea of Economic Area is to develop and collective effort can yield result. India as a country is almost the same population as Africa and they are making giant strides towards development. Western education alone cannot bring development. There is need for cheap labour. Free movement of labour is central to development of any country. When you restrict movement of ppl, you restrict movement of skill
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 11:00pm On Aug 24, 2009
i thought India had over 1 billion people?  shocked shocked shocked

also what skills are we talking about here? moving to lagos to beg?
if you go to lagos have a PLAN and dont come more broke than how you left.
and dont go just to beg.
they need to be deported.
unless they were people looking for jobs or something like than then who cares where they go in the country.
but dont move just to beg, thats ridiculous.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:03pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

OMG!!! SHUT UP AND DROP THE SUBJECT.

YOU ALL LOOK LIKE IDIOTS SITTING HERE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER OVER NOTHING.
WHAT IS THAT DOING ABOUT THE BEGGERS?
WHAT IS ARGUING GOING TO DO?
OR ISNT STUPID TRIBALISM AND TRIBALISTIC PEOPLE LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE WHY NIGERIA IS IN THE CURRENT STATE THAT IT'S IN?
PLEASE!!!!!!

OMG, EVERYONE JUST CLOSE THAT HOLE IN YOUR FACE.
SHEESH!

Tribalism, which sometime I prefer to call Nationalism is necessity for ppl that have identity. There is no problem for ppl to have tribalism.  However Nepotism base on Tribalism is the problem.

You should stop whinning, if you dont want to contribute to meaningful discuss you go and sleep and do whatever you want.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:05pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

i thought India had over 1 billion people?  shocked shocked shocked

also what skills are we talking about here? moving to lagos to beg?
if you go to lagos have a PLAN and dont come more broke than how you left.
and dont go just to beg.
they need to be deported.
unless they were people looking for jobs or something like than then who cares where they go in the country.
but dont move just to beg, thats ridiculous.

We are not talking about ppl moving to Lagos to beg, we are talking about integration proper integration of West African Nation, similar to European Union both politically and economically.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 11:05pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

i thought India had over 1 billion people? shocked shocked shocked

Lol it does i dont know where this guy got his fact from.

Tsiya:

Incase you have forgotten America as a country is formed by many states, who by then have no western education. The idea of unity have nothing to do with going to school. Even in more develop society not everybody go to school. The idea of Economic Area is to develop and collective effort can yield result. India as a country is almost the same population as Nigeria and they are making giant strides towards development. Western education alone cannot bring development. There is need for cheap labour. Free movement of labour is central to development of any country. When you restrict movement of ppl, you restrict movement of skill

America is a group of states who share a common federal constitution, and they have always had western education its against the law not to attend school up til age 16. Every developed nation has people attending school so what are you saying. Cheap Labor nothing to do with free movement which is why many american companies have prodcuts produced in Asia or Africa
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Beaf: 11:05pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

OMG!!! SHUT UP AND DROP THE SUBJECT.

YOU ALL LOOK LIKE IDIOTS SITTING HERE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER OVER NOTHING.
WHAT IS THAT DOING ABOUT THE BEGGERS?
WHAT IS ARGUING GOING TO DO?
OR ISNT STUPID TRIBALISM AND TRIBALISTIC PEOPLE LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE WHY NIGERIA IS IN THE CURRENT STATE THAT IT'S IN?
PLEASE!!!!!!

OMG, EVERYONE JUST CLOSE THAT HOLE IN YOUR FACE.
SHEESH!

Stop being childish and abusing everyone indiscriminately. Make a logical contribution to the topic if you feel it is derailed, rather than derailing it with senseless rants. Avoid the caps lock key, it is rude.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 11:06pm On Aug 24, 2009
Tsiya:

Tribalism, which sometime I prefer to call Nationalism is necessity for ppl that have identity. There is no problem for ppl to have tribalism.  However Nepotism base on Tribalism is the problem.

You should stop whinning, if you dont want to contribute to meaningful discuss you go and sleep and do whatever you want.
hahahahaha! look at you.
continue to discuss and discuss and discuss. and what are you doing PHYSICALLY?
all this talk is like "wtf"

what has been done since everyone has started cutting each other's throats on this NL?
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:12pm On Aug 24, 2009
sjeezy8:

Lol it does i dont know where this guy got his fact from.

America is a group of states who share a common federal constitution, and they have always had western education its against the law not to attend school up til age 16. Every developed nation has people attending school so what are you saying. Cheap Labor nothing to do with free movement which is why many american companies have prodcuts produced in Asia or Africa

America as a state didnt wake up just found themselves everyone going to school. In US it is more recently that Black ppl are allowed to vote and aspire to achieve their potentials. It is more recently that women are allowed to vote and even aspire to their aspirations. The idea of a country isolating itself because it feels it have more potentials or resources than other nations is repugnant to human development. We as a black ppl cannot complain as being maltreated in foreign countries (Europe/China/Ameria) if we continue to view within ourselves as one Nation/Tribe is better and more superior than another. And we cannot succeed as Africa as a whole if we continue to shield ourselves from ourselves. We have to collectively work.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 11:12pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

hahahahaha! look at you.
continue to discuss and discuss and discuss. and what are you doing PHYSICALLY?
all this talk is like "wtf"

what has been done since everyone has started cutting each other's throats on this NL?

there nothing wrong with dscussion or debate
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 11:15pm On Aug 24, 2009
NOW its turning back into a debate

about 5 pages back and about for 10 or more pages it was nothing but tribal bashing for one another.
all this hate came from discussing BEGGERS.
na wa
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:17pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

hahahahaha! look at you.
continue to discuss and discuss and discuss. and what are you doing PHYSICALLY?
all this talk is like "wtf"

what has been done since everyone has started cutting each other's throats on this NL?

Im not new to Nairaland. You may not understand that sometimes what someone said will make an impact on how u view your life and the whole world. You should free ur mind of any prejudice because no one have monopoly of wisdom. Allow ppl to talk and if you hav nothing to contribue dont attack the personality of other ppl.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by presido1: 11:17pm On Aug 24, 2009
What if Kaduna State had rejected the panhandlers? what could have been their faith or did Lagos State consult Kad State b4 the deportation?
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:19pm On Aug 24, 2009
THE AMAKA:

NOW its turning back into a debate

about 5 pages back and about for 10 or more pages it was nothing but tribal bashing for one another.
all this hate came from discussing BEGGERS.
na wa

It is very important to discuss BEGGERS. Do you know that Barack Obama was on a system synonymous to begging at one point in his life?
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by THEAMAKA(f): 11:22pm On Aug 24, 2009
what the hell are you talking about?
i didnt say you shouldnt discuss the beggers.
im saying all this tribal hate started from talking about beggers.


i dont see how beggers involves igbo vs yoruba, AGAIN.
anyway, im out!!
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 11:23pm On Aug 24, 2009
@tsiya

Blacks have been voting since 1868, they actually started voting before WHITE women so what are you saying.

Thats not recently

America England and China have closed borders and they are doing fine, it has nothing to do with isolation if you have proper documentation and are a TAX PAYER you can stay. One who doesn't pay taxes cannot enjoy the perks without paying tax in America.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:24pm On Aug 24, 2009
Amaka, you need to watch your language . . . . if this is how you speak in real world, you might oneday turn around and find non of ur friends.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 11:25pm On Aug 24, 2009
@tysia

What system was barack obama ever on?

his family was always well educated so stop lyin and sayin wrong info
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by presido1: 11:25pm On Aug 24, 2009
sjeezy8:

@tsiya
Blacks have been voting since 1868, they actually started voting before WHITE women so what are you saying.
Thats not recently
America England and China have closed borders and they are doing fine, it has nothing to do with isolation if you have proper documentation and are a TAX PAYER you can stay. One who doesn't pay taxes cannot enjoy the perks without paying tax in America.
Which documentation are you refering to here and do all the alayes at mile2 and ojota pay tax?.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by sjeezy8: 11:27pm On Aug 24, 2009
@ presido we are discussing foreigners and migraters

not all people pay taxes in Nigeria and have proper documentaion but fashola is pushing for everyone to wisen up

AND PAY TAXES
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:32pm On Aug 24, 2009
There is difference between voting right and actual voting. . . .untill the Civin movements of 50s and 60s there have bn widespread isenfranchisement of voting rights to black ppl in the US. That is what the Voting Right Acts of 1965 is all about. You can google that and read on any credible website.

The UK is not isolated. Every European have the right to move in and out of UK anytime without the need for a visa or visitation permit. UKs boarder is not close to its neighbours. Is is open. China is 1/6 of the world population, highly dense population they need to let ppl out not move in some ppl.
Re: Lagos “deports” 160 Northern Beggers by Tsiya(m): 11:39pm On Aug 24, 2009
The vast majority of Nigerian doesnt pay taxes. Unlike in other countries, even those that pay taxes they pay the same rate.

Are wages and tax laws are screwed to cheat the government. Wages in Nigeria are broken into 2: Basic Salary and Allowances. The basic salary is usually about 10 - 15% of take home pay and that is what govt tax. The govt doesnt tax the so-called allowances which are also part of the take home.

Documentation of West Africans in Nigeria is violation of treaty and laws that set up ECOWAS. Our boarders are open that is why Nigerians move freely in all African countries. I will categorically tell there are more Nigerians in any African country than there are foreigners in Nigeria.

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