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Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by mrvitalis(m): 10:38am On Jun 01, 2016
Ok
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Doncharis(m): 10:39am On Jun 01, 2016
I support it... let them pass the bill right away, any lawmaker that doesn't support it is nt education friendly.. . It applies with international best practices on education.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by darkid1(m): 10:39am On Jun 01, 2016
Makes a lot of sense. I am so happy about this. You know how hard it is for some folks out there to save towards going to tetiary institutions...My country is gradually becoming a better Nigeria.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Smartanthony: 10:40am On Jun 01, 2016
then they should b ready to build more prison that wil conten graduates unable to pay back for unemployment!
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by banmee(m): 10:40am On Jun 01, 2016
BlackMerchant:
One of the first sensible bills to be debated by the present National Assembly.

Remember that 5k promise by buhari? This is the same thing. You all don't ask sensible questions when policies are being proposed. In a normal society, this bill will be awesome when and if passed, but this is Nigeria. How are they going to fund it is the first question that comes to mind. How are they going to ensure that corruption does not overtake it's good intentions? Nigerians, for God's sake, ASK QUESTIONS. Don't let poverty cloud good judgement and common sense.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by funstufz: 10:42am On Jun 01, 2016
This is good development...

The next bill shall be Bill on Loans for the 'over-graduates'
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by goodlifehyd(m): 10:45am On Jun 01, 2016
Na wash cuz it wasnt raised by a PDP member or it wasnt during IE's tenure
CR77:
Na wash cool
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by BlackMerchant(m): 10:45am On Jun 01, 2016
banmee:


Remember that 5k promise by buhari? This is the same thing. You all don't ask sensible questions when policies are being proposed. In a normal society, this bill will be awesome when and if passed, but this is Nigeria. How are they going to fund it is the first question that comes to mind. How are they going to ensure that corruption does not overtake it's good intentions? Nigerians, for God's sake, ASK QUESTIONS. Don't let poverty cloud good judgement and common sense.

What is this one talking sef? Have you seen the content of the bill to know whether if those questions you've raised are taken care of? You just come here to rant off. Bros, park one side abeg.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Johnnyessence(m): 10:45am On Jun 01, 2016
fp pls.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by sherif4owo(m): 10:46am On Jun 01, 2016
Nice movement.. I don't trust our gov't to do it right though.

But I commend the effort of the sponsors of this bill, with a good intention, It's going to go along way in securing the future of Education in nigeria
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Nobody: 10:47am On Jun 01, 2016
So what database will you use to keep peeps in check? How will you ensure I stay in the country after school and work to repay the debts? how will you provide jobs that will repay these debts? What have you learned from the western countries like US whose debt ratio is almost twice their GDP even with the efficiency of their job creation and their vast amount of wealth? What have you learned from Japan whose debt ratio is topping three times its GDP? What measures have you taken to improve the educational system which a student will obviously spend the rest of his life paying for?

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Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Adet5(m): 10:55am On Jun 01, 2016
Change bill
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Lalaonpoint(f): 10:58am On Jun 01, 2016
Whao....this is very impressive coming from our dishonourable honourables. I pray it scales through to implementation.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by banmee(m): 11:09am On Jun 01, 2016
BlackMerchant:


What is this one talking sef? Have you seen the content of the bill to know whether if those questions you've raised are taken care of? You just come here to rant off. Bros, park one side abeg.

Did you ask? Poverty is a terrible thing. It clouds the mind.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Strawman: 11:11am On Jun 01, 2016
edlion57:
E don der reach a stage wia graduate will b proud to b address as under graduates

LOL! cheesy Guy na loan oh, you go still pay back
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by makos3k: 11:17am On Jun 01, 2016
CR77:
Na wash cool
try they talk tru sometimes...lolss.. No one go beat you
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by legendte(m): 11:21am On Jun 01, 2016
edlion57:
E don der reach a stage wia graduate will b proud to b address as under graduates
Lmao!!!!!!! like people doing NYSC twice. Guy you just dey funny. Your mind must be full of evil to think this. lol
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by techJ: 11:30am On Jun 01, 2016
banmee:


Remember that 5k promise by buhari? This is the same thing. You all don't ask sensible questions when policies are being proposed. In a normal society, this bill will be awesome when and if passed, but this is Nigeria. How are they going to fund it is the first question that comes to mind. How are they going to ensure that corruption does not overtake it's good intentions? Nigerians, for God's sake, ASK QUESTIONS. Don't let poverty cloud good judgement and common sense.

This is not a promise, but an action that is already in process. It is done in the UK and other developed countries to help citizens who can't really afford proper education. In fact, it will even compel government to create more jobs since you can only pay back when you are working and paying back means the funds will be available for others who also need such facility.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by fejicruz(m): 11:57am On Jun 01, 2016
What of a Bill for An Act to Give the Graduates Employment After Graduation? Abi na photocopy of certificate them go take pay the loan?
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by ndat(m): 12:06pm On Jun 01, 2016
chinchong:
....and after graduating from school, they will join the long que of unemployed youth in roaming the street of Ajegunle .

instead of granting loan to young entrepreneur they are passing bill that will indirectly increase the number of unemployed youth.

Awon wayre dede!
I think it will go along way securing them job.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by saintkeppy(m): 12:11pm On Jun 01, 2016
edlion57:
E don der reach a stage wia graduate will b proud to b address as under graduates
. Alias GHOST STUDENTS. Nigeria ma kontry i hail una.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by saintkeppy(m): 12:18pm On Jun 01, 2016
Any bill for Graduate loan who intend to go for post Graduate, Master's degree here in Nigeria or abroad? Since work no dey for person to do. That Nigerian Education Bank 4 make sense if established.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Nobody: 12:25pm On Jun 01, 2016
A nice move, I just hope the politician will not see this as an avenue to embezzle again oo!!!
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by imohrol(m): 12:29pm On Jun 01, 2016
I am in total support of that bill. and pls it should b based on merit. not man know man...
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Azeez532(m): 12:47pm On Jun 01, 2016
Excellent bill if you ask me, at least, relative to the previous bills that i have had about. Talk about building huge mass of talented human resource, this bill, if passed, would give access to the poorest of the poor the opportunity of an higher education which would invariably lift so many out of poverty.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by jojothaiv(m): 12:48pm On Jun 01, 2016
MadCow1:
This is a tricky bill o!!



The U.S already gives out Student loans to undergraduates for school fees and stuff and the problem remains paying back those loans. Especially with the low unemployment in the Nation.

This bill may sound like the ideal bill, but it can come back to bite you all in the asses and you will be the ones complaining about your debt profile in the future.
Gladly give you a loan today, takes back your house if you can't pay tomorrow...

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Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by banmee(m): 12:49pm On Jun 01, 2016
techJ:


This is not a promise, but an action that is already in process. It is done in the UK and other developed countries to help citizens who can't really afford proper education. In fact, it will even compel government to create more jobs since you can only pay back when you are working and paying back means the funds will be available for others who also need such facility.

You talk as if you are talking about Germany. Have you ever heard of state bursaries? It was almost the same thing. Guess how it ended. Bad planning and corruption. Nothing has changed in Nigeria to suggest this will not happen again. In fact it has gotten worse.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Favben(m): 12:56pm On Jun 01, 2016
Okay, since it's a loan and whoever borrows would have to pay back, no problem; but I don't think that it's the most pressing need right now given that tertiary education in Nigeria is tuition free.

Annual fees charged by Nigerian higher institutions for maintenance and management services to students range from 15k to 70k in federal universities. This is not remitted to the federal government. Note that this is not tuition fees. The federal government is yet saddled with payment of lecturers salaries and other compensations.

Essentially we are enjoying free education in Nigeria at the tertiary level. A look at what is obtainable in other advanced countries, better economies than Nigeria will show you that we have it too good.

But, how good is it really when we talk about the quality of education?

Tertiary education requires massive funding that cannot be footed by government, tuition fees, or industry, each acting alone.

A secondary school student spends more in fees for three terms than a university students annual fees. This stops education of the abjectly poor early on or at best makes them settle for a quality of education that would not turn them out as sound as is safe for society.

This favour the federal government of Nigeria is doing her citizens is obviously not working. A compulsory preliminary education that is either free or affordable to all up to SSCE level should be adopted instead because I believe their is a relationship between the average level of education of citizens and the social vices we see in our nation (Tribal and religious terrorism, militancy, butchering herdsmen, herdsmen butchering, highway robbery, kidnapping, deliberate crude oil spillage and irreversible destruction of one's habitat, bombing and destruction of public property, jungle/street justice).

We cannot all be graduates.

We can however all be educated intelligent citizens filling each, a different niche and thriving.

Some would learn a vocation after a compulsory basic education (ssce level), others a trade or craft.

This same system is adopted by the U.S and the U.K and has recorded tremendous success. Parents in those locales plan and contribute to a college fund for a selected child who they think would thrive best in further education.

Sometimes paying more is good. If I pay more, I would demand that a commensurate quality of service is rendered. Citizens who pay would make demands for what it's worth and this is really what is needed to keep the educational system on it's toes while helping provide the funding it needs.

We have to kill the apathy that comes with, the fees is not much so we don't expect much.

Let education rather be free to SSCE level and tertiary education tuition charged as obtainable elsewhere.

Students being sponsored through school would perhaps take learning more seriously.

Parents would perhaps take their wards open day more seriously.

Poorly performing lecturers would perhaps loose their jobs to an active feedback system.

That we may have the capacity to pay our lecturers better.

Then perhaps we can attract more great minds from all around the world to lecture in Nigerian Institutions.

And produce better graduates that Nigeria needs for technological advancement necessary to get her out of her economic woes in the 21st century.

With restored confidence in the educational system, more industry participation, funding and partnership to drive research would be possible.

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Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Lordxeer(m): 12:59pm On Jun 01, 2016
Let's not be too negative about this bill, at least its objective. Considering the norms.
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by ElCapone(m): 1:01pm On Jun 01, 2016
CR77:
Na wash cool
lol yhu never believed anything from APC can be gud. wailer spotted!!!!!
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Lordxeer(m): 1:08pm On Jun 01, 2016
Favben:
Okay, since it's a loan and whoever borrows would have to pay back, no problem; but I don't think that it's the most pressing need right now given that tertiary education in Nigeria is tuition free.

Annual fees charged by Nigerian higher institutions for maintenance and management services to students range from 15k to 70k in federal universities. This is not remitted to the federal government. Note that this is not tuition fees. The federal government is yet saddled with payment of lecturers salaries and other compensations.

Essentially we are enjoying free education in Nigeria at the tertiary level. A look at what is obtainable in other advanced countries, better economies than Nigeria will show you that we have it too good.

But, how good is it really when we talk about the quality of education?

Tertiary education requires massive funding that cannot be footed by government, tuition fees, or industry, each acting alone.

A secondary school student spends more in fees for three terms than a university students annual fees. This stops education of the abjectly poor early on or at best makes them settle for a quality of education that would not turn them out as sound as is safe for society.

This favour the federal government of Nigeria is doing her citizens is obviously not working. A compulsory preliminary education that is either free or affordable to all up to SSCE level should be adopted instead because I believe their is a relationship between the average level of education of citizens and the social vices we see in our nation (Tribal and religious terrorism, militancy, butchering herdsmen, herdsmen butchering, highway robbery, kidnapping, deliberate crude oil spillage and irreversible destruction of one's habitat, bombing and destruction of public property, jungle/street justice).

We cannot all be graduates.

We can however all be educated intelligent citizens filling each, a different niche and thriving.

Some would learn a vocation after a compulsory basic education (ssce level), others a trade or craft.

This same system is adopted by the U.S and the U.K and has recorded tremendous success. Parents in those locales plan and contribute to a college fund for a selected child who they think would thrive best in further education.

Sometimes paying more is good. If I pay more, I would demand that a commensurate quality of service is rendered. Citizens who pay would make demands for what it's worth and this is really what is needed to keep the educational system on it's toes while helping provide the funding it needs.

We have to kill the apathy that comes with, the fees is not much so we don't expect much.

Let education rather be free to SSCE level and tertiary education tuition charged as obtainable elsewhere.

Students being sponsored through school would perhaps take learning more seriously.

Parents would perhaps take their wards open day more seriously.

Poorly performing lecturers would perhaps loose their jobs to an active feedback system.

That we may have the capacity to pay our lecturers better.

Then perhaps we can attract more great minds from all around the world to lecture in Nigerian Institutions.

And produce better graduates that Nigeria needs for technological advancement necessary to get her out of her economic woes in the 21st century.

With restored confidence in the educational system, more industry participation, funding and partnership to drive research would be possible.

that's spot on brother!
Re: Bill On Loans For Undergraduates Passes Second Reading by Henrichemeka(m): 1:32pm On Jun 01, 2016
How will the loan be paid back? Is it by working for government after your graduation or what?

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