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Clear Cut Difference Between The Bible And The Holy QURAN. Bible Is Changed. by muhamadnur: 8:45am On Jun 07, 2016 |
The Bible is a collection of
writings by many different
authors. The Qur'an is a
dictation. The speaker in the
Qur'an - in the first person - is
God talking directly to man. In the Bible you have many
men writing about God and
you have in some places the
word of God speaking to men
and still in other places you
have some men simply writing about history. The
Bible consists of 66 small
books. About 18 of them
begin by saying: This is the
revelation God gave to so and
so… The rest make no claim as to their origin. You have for
example the beginning of the
book of Jonah which begins
by saying: The word of the
Lord came to Jonah the son of
Elmitaeh saying… quote and then it continues for two or
three pages. If you compare that to one of
the four accounts of the life of
Jesus, Luke begins by saying:
“many people have written
about this man, it seems
fitting for me to do so too”. That is all… no claim of saying
“ these words were given to
me by God here they are for
you it is a revelation”, there is
no mention of this. The Bible does not contain self-
reference, that is, the word
'Bible' is not in the Bible.
Nowhere does the Bible talk
about itself. Some scriptures
are sometimes pointed to in the Bible, say: Here where it
talks about itself, but we
have to look closely. 2nd
Timothy 3:16 is the favourite
which reads: “All scripture is
inspired of God” and there are those who would say, here is
where the Bible it talks about
itself, it says it is inspired of
God, all of it. But if you read
the whole sentence, you read
that this was a letter wrote by Paul to Timothy and the
entire sentence says to
Timothy: “Since you were a
young man you have studied
the holy scriptures, all
scriptures inspired by God” and so on… When Timothy
was a young man the New
Testament did not exist, the
only thing that stems he was
talking about are scriptures –
which are only a portion of the Bible - from before that
time. It could not have meant
the whole Bible. There is at the end of the Bible
a verse which says: “Let
anyone who takes away
from this book or adds to this
book be cursed”. This to is
sometimes pointed to me saying: Here is where it sums
itself as a whole. But look
again and you will see that
when it says: Let no one
change this book, it is talking
about that last book, number 66, the Book of Revelation. It
has too, because any reference
will tell you that the Book of
Revelation was written
before certain other parts of
the Bible were written. It happens today to be stacked
at the end, but there are other
parts that came after, so it can
not be referring to the entire
book. It is an extreme position held
only by some Christian groups
that the Bible – in its entirety -
cover to cover is the revealed
word of God in every word,
but they do a clever thing when they mention this, or
make this claim. They will say
that the Bible in its entirety is
the word of God; inerrant (no
mistakes) in the original
writings. So if you go to the Bible and point out some
mistakes that are in it you are
going to be told: Those
mistakes were not there in
the original manuscript, they
have crept in so that we see them there today. They are
going on problem in that
position. There is a verse in the
Bible Isaiah 40:8 which in fact
is so well known that some
Bibles printed it on the inside front cover as an introduction
and it says : “ The grass
weathers, the flower fades,
but the word of our God
stands forever”. Here is a claim
in the Bible that the word of God will stand forever, it will
not be corrupted, it won't be
lost. So if today you find a
mistake in the Bible you have
two choices. Either that
promise was false that when God said my word wont fade
away, he was mistaken, or
the portion which has the
mistake in it was not a part of
the word of God in the first
place, because the promise was that it would be
safeguarded, it would not be
corrupted. these are just few you name. THE QURAN come back to the
Qur'an, and as I mentioned the
speaker in the Qur'an is - in the
first person - is God. The book
claims throughout that it is
the word of God. It names itself 70 times as the Qur'an. It
talks about its own contents.
It has self-reference. The
Qur'an states in the first Sura
after Fatiha that “This is the
book, there is no doubt in it, it is a guidance for those who
are conscious of God” and so
on and so on… It begins that
way and continues that way
stressing that. And there is
one very amazing statement in the Qur'an when you come
to the fourth Sura 82nd Ayah
which says to those who say
Qur'an is something else than
the word of God. It challenges
them saying: “Have they not considered the Qur'an, if it
came from someone other
than God they will find in it
many mistakes”. Some of you
are students, would you dare
to hand in a paper after you completed a research work or
something at the bottom you
put down there “You wont
find mistakes in this”. Would
you dare to challenge your
professor that way?. Well the Qur'an does that. It is telling:
If you really think you know
where this came from then
starts looking for mistakes
because you wont find any.
Another interesting thing the Qur'an does is that it quotes all
its critics. There has never - in
hundreds of years - ever been
some suggestion as to where
that book came from but that
the Qur'an does not already mention that objection and
reply to it. Many times you
will find the Ayah saying
something like: Do they say
such and such and so, say to
them such and such and so. In every case there is a reply.
More than that the Qur'an
claims that the evidence of its
origin is in itself, and that if
you look at this book you
will be convinced. So the difference in
Christianity and Islam comes
down to a difference of
authority and appeal to
authority. The Christian wants
to appeal to the Bible and the Muslim wants to appeal to the
Qur'an. You can not stop by
saying: This is true because me
book say it is, and somebody
else would say something else
is true because my book says differently, you can not stop
at that point, and the Qur'an
does not. The Christians may
point to some words that it is
recorded Jesus said and say
this proves my point. But the Muslim does not simply open
his book and say: No, no the
Qur'an says this, because the
Qur'an does not simply deny
something the Bible says and
say something else instead. The Qur'an takes the form of a
rebuttal, it is a guidance as the
opening says (Huda lil
mutakeen). So that for every
suggestion that the Christian
may say: My Bible say such and such, the Qur'an will not
simply say: No that is not
true, it will say: Do they say
such and such then ask them
such and such. You have for
example the Ayah that compares Jesus and Adam.
There are those who may say
that Jesus must have been
God (Son of God) because he
had no father. He had a
woman who was his mother, but there was no human
father. It was God that gave
him life, so he must have been
God’s son. The Qur'an reminds
the Christian in one short
sentence to remember Adam - who was his father ? - and in
fact, who was his mother ? He
did not have a father either
and in fact he did not have a
mother, but what does that
make him? So that the likeness of Adam is the
likeness of Jesus, they were
nothing and then they became
something; that they worship
God. So that the Qur'an does not
demand belief - the Qur'an
invites belief, and here is the
fundamental difference. It is
not simply delivered as: Here
is what you are to believe, but throughout the Qur'an the
statements are always: Have
you O man thought of such
and such, have you considered
so and so. It is always an
invitation for you to look at the evidence; now what do
you believe ? The citation of the Bible very
often takes the form of what
is called in Argumentation:
Special Pleading. Special
Pleading is when implications
are not consistent. When you take something and you say:
Well that must mean this, but
you don’t use the same
argument to apply it to
something else. To give an
example, I have seen it in publications many times,
stating that Jesus must have
been God because he worked
miracles. In other hand we
know very well that there is
no miracle ever worked by Jesus that is not also recorded
in the Old Testament as
worked by one of the
prophets. You had amongst
others, Elijah, who is reported
to have cured the leper, raise the dead boy to life and to
have multiplied bread for the
people to eat - three of the
most favourite miracles cited
by Jesus. If the miracles
worked by Jesus proved he was God, why don’t they
prove Elijah was God ? This is
Special Pleading, if you see
what I mean. The implications
are not consistent. If this
implies that then in that case it must also imply the same
thing. We have those who
would say Jesus was God
because he was taken up in
the heaven. But the Bible also
says the a certain Einah did not die he was taken up into
the heaven by God. Whether
it is true or not, who knows,
but the point is if Jesus being
taken up proves he is God,
why does not it prove Einah was God? The same thing
happened to him.
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Re: Clear Cut Difference Between The Bible And The Holy QURAN. Bible Is Changed. by malvisguy212: 9:02am On Jun 07, 2016 |
Who change it ? When was the bible corrupted ? Why will allah ask you to make confirmation from a corrupted book ? Op read this thread and reply: https://www.nairaland.com/2381817/contradictions-analyzed-bible-quran THE QURAN GIVES AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE: The Qur’an, itself, the highest authority for all Muslims, gives authority to the Bible, assuming its authenticity at least up to the seventh-ninth Centuries. Consider the following Suras: Surah 2:136 points out that there is no difference between the scriptures which preceded and those of the Qur’an, saying, “ …the revelation given to us…and Jesus…we make no difference between one and another of them .” Surah 3:2-3 continues, “Allah…He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…as a guide to mankind .” Sura h 4:136 carries this farther by admonishing the Muslims to, “ …Believe… and the scripture which He sent before him .” In Surah 5:47,49,50,52 we find a direct call to Christians to believe in their scriptures: “ …We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel… Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein, if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel…” Again, in Surah 5:68 we find a similar call: “People of the Book!…Stand fast by the law, the Gospel, and all revelation that hath come to you from YOUR LORD. It is the revelation that has come to thee from THY LORD.” To embolden this idea of the New and Old Testament’s authority we find in Surah 10:94 that Muslims are advised to confer with these scriptures if in doubt about their own, saying: “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee. The truth had indeed come to thee from thy Lord .” And as if to emphasize this point the advice is repeated in Surah 21:7, stating; “ …the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. If ye realize this not, Ask of those who possess the message .” Finally, in Surah 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying; “And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you.” If there is anything in these Suras which is clear,it is that the Quran emphatically endorses the Torah and the Gospel as authentic and authoritative revelations from God. This coincides with what Christians believe, as well. In fact, nowhere is there any warning in the Qur’an that the former scriptures had been corrupted, nor that they were contradictory. If the Qur’an was indeed the final and complete revelation, if it was the seal of all former revelations the Muslims claim, than certainly the author of the Qur’an would have included a warning against that which had been corrupted in the earlier scriptures. But nowhere do we find even a hint that the Bible was contradictory, or indeed that it was corrupted. WHY WILL A FINAL REVELATION NOT GIVE WARNING OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE FORMER REVELATION? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Clear Cut Difference Between The Bible And The Holy QURAN. Bible Is Changed. by Samunique(m): 9:47am On Jun 07, 2016 |
@malvisguy212, Kudos to you sir, may day lord continue to strengthen u for your good work on this forum. However, the OP u answered did not deserve it, he's not here for knowledge but argument, i guess he's new here bcs some of the points he raised have been answered time without number here, so i guess u should do ur best here not for the sake of the OP but those who might visit this thread . Shalom sir ! |
Re: Clear Cut Difference Between The Bible And The Holy QURAN. Bible Is Changed. by Nobody: 9:54am On Jun 07, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Sometimes I wonder how Muslims think. They just gain partial knowledge and then start showing off with a morsel of wisdom not as strong as a simple thinking. Abeg I dey feel you jare Malvis. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Clear Cut Difference Between The Bible And The Holy QURAN. Bible Is Changed. by Samunique(m): 9:54am On Jun 07, 2016 |
@malvisguy212, Kudos to you sir, may day lord continue to strengthen u for your good work on this forum. However, the OP u answered did not deserve it, he's not here for knowledge but argument, i guess he's new here bcs some of the points he raised have been answered time without number here, so i guess u should do ur best here not for the sake of the OP but those who might visit this thread . Shalom sir ! And another point is that, we do not need the Koran to validate the bible and Christian faith, they are the ones who need the previous scriptures ( Torah and Injil ) to validate their Allahh' revelations. Surat 10:94 3 Likes 1 Share |
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