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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by leye4u: 12:42pm On Jun 22, 2016
can the real Aisha Buhari ( the one who transferred the money) show her face
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by vislabraye(m): 12:42pm On Jun 22, 2016
1bkaye:
More. I really want to believe she's been hacked lol


So she's 45 years old ? shocked . It she married 30 years ago, it means she was 15 shocked. . Fear catch me O.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by MamaletASO: 12:44pm On Jun 22, 2016
Another SEASON movie..

Fayose(the Wailer a.k.a Mad-dog) VS Aisha Buhari (the St. Angel Linen)

Keep Watching! shocked shocked shocked
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jun 22, 2016
peppyluv02:
Her account wasn't hacked. She tweeted it afterall she is human so the outburst of emotion is allowed.
Besides she just exposed herself...She revealed she was a child bride at 13. She was his late daughter's friend.


It's allowed, it's just that when you're in such a position that she's in there will be certain manners expected of you to conduct yourself in, even in crises lol. People will always scrutinise/criticise anyway but you'd be helping yourself if you limit how much you give them to run with.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by terzurum(m): 12:58pm On Jun 22, 2016
doublewisdom:
Aisha is a tout and a thief! Cheap wh.ore in Aso Rock!

Oh oh I get it, networks are giving free data. No wonder! Ppl like this can comment and display manners picked from gutter.

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Mosminic(m): 1:37pm On Jun 22, 2016
I think say Ramadan still they on?
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Living4christ(m): 1:52pm On Jun 22, 2016
Fayose did nothing wrong, but only stated fact, if she said he is lying let her travel to US and come back or sue fayose for defamation. After all it was what fayose saw that he said.

His husband is currently being charged to court for forgery, which he prefer to higher SAN than to just #showushiscertificate, now they have forged another National I.D using a poor woman in the village who can not even afford N200,000. This kind family self ehn, i Wonder whether there existence is real at all!
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by skypeople(f): 1:56pm On Jun 22, 2016
Sern
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Kosy79(f): 1:57pm On Jun 22, 2016
Someone said "may GOD never ignore u like Buhari is doin to Fayose" now it should "May Mary force GOD to answer ur prayers like Aisha is doing to Buhari" lol! Nigerian politicians showing off their dirty panties for all to see. Nigerian politicians's hands are soaked with blood. Before saying u will change or fight corruption make sure u can endure and also u are free from corruption of any form make sure u are flawless cos if u have some flaws no matter how whiter ur garment is d flaws must dirty it

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jun 22, 2016
After she will say her twitter account was hacked or she's bn impersonated mumu people dem.

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Nobody: 2:52pm On Jun 22, 2016
wetin concern me
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jun 22, 2016
Pheals:
This ..... Doesn't know they are grown up

I don't believe she owns the Twitter a/c

OK Ikwokrikwo thanks I can c it's verify !
Have checked it..






Aisha buhari will force PMB to take illegal actions against fayose


WOMEN-!!




This ..... Doesn't know they are grown up

I don't believe she owns the Twitter a/c

OK Ikwokrikwo thanks I can c it's verify !
Have checked it..






Aisha buhari will force PMB to take illegal actions against fayose


WOMEN-


Please correct yourself before I faint. Thanks
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by numericalguy(m): 3:14pm On Jun 22, 2016
Who is that cow called Aisha Buhari to call an elected and sitting governor a mad dog.

Aisha Buhari is a useless banza bakawai. A who.re in asso rock.

It takes a rabid dog like Aisha Buhari to know a mad dog.

Patience Ebele Jonathan took so much insults from Amechi and others for many years but she never called any one a dog or any other name like that. How long has that who.re called Aisha been in asso rock that she's already behaving like a rabid dog and has started barking up and down.

Aisha Buhari the who.re was not brought up from a responsible home and is a colossal disgrace to the Nation as wife of President.

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Cherlene(f): 4:34pm On Jun 22, 2016
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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by numericalguy(m): 5:04pm On Jun 22, 2016
iamDiabolic:
when hell roofayi nd other apc physchopats were insultin gej nd pej,where yo as at

Don't mind those useless hypocrites and their two timing faces.

Aisha Buhari just behaved like a dog bred person. Useless who.re in asso rock.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by numericalguy(m): 5:17pm On Jun 22, 2016
dollytino4real:
I like fayose sha, bt talking to mama of nigeria like dat is not a good idea.

U dey craze. Na that rabid dog called aisha buhari u dey call mama Nigeria?
Anybody brought up in a well civilized home will not talk like that. She just a who.re in aso rock
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by lastpage: 5:34pm On Jun 22, 2016
Gbawe:



you continue to show the arrogance of Nigerians I have talked about here many times. Many can see I begged the interpretation of Lawyers and humbly submitted I am not one and would therefore welcome their input. You, despite been asked directly if a lawyer, continue to cling to some 'i am right' high ground with vague reference to the constitution when everyone knows there are grey areas that mean immunity does not confer on a person the right to go around acting lawlessly. I hinted at this when , using common sense, I suggested in an earlier post that Fayose should be immune from malicious prosecution that distracts him from doing his very important job. I also added that this does not mean he escapes sanction for his own deliberate actions aimed at impugning the name or reputation of others.

You never told us if you are a lawyer or not and i can now see why. You simply want us to accept your layman interpretation as correct when you actually don't have any professional knowledge to confirm you are 100% correct. Nigerians do this a lot. I know my people and this is why I investigated further to indeed note that i have a point. I was going on instincts related to equity and fair play initially while you just want to hide behind an "immunity is complete and final" argument to support your opinion. See below to indeed note I have a valid point. Every sensible person know you cannot have access to greater specialist legal knowledge than a Presidency, which includes a distinguished and accomplished lawyer as VP, that warned that there will be "legal consequences" against Fayose's actions. Read what is written below and take it in although I suspect you will still continue to claim you know authoritatively that Fayose is above the law as is customary with many Nigerians who are always ready to argue emotionally while never humbly submitting themselves to the opinions of those who have authority to speak decisively on the matter at hand. This is why I asked if you are a lawyer in the first place, since I had asked for the input of legal experts only, and you failed to tell us this.

Nairalanders, please judge the article below yourselves from legal affairs media Nigeria while our Nairaland Femi Falana, i.e lastpage, continues to insist otherwise. We are watching since it seems lastpage and some other Nairalanders, who are all not legal experts, know more than the Presidency which insists there will be legal consequences for Fayose's action. I think it is clear , from below, that the constitution does not give Fayose carte blanche to be "verbally reckless" as this cannot be allowed to be a "defence for defamation". We will see she.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200901230475.html


Sorry Gbawe, if you think l come across as "arrogant". I AM NOT.

I am simply stating my own opinion on the matter.
Once again, apologies for your interpretation of my personality.

No need for all those "name-calling" on your.own part! I never claimed to be "Nairaland Lawyer" and l dont know how you came about that conclusion?..... l never insulted you in anyway in my post... or did l?

I am sure if l had answered you directly on my professional leanings, you will next ask me to paste a copy of my Graduateship & Law School Certs here! This is Nairaland, It can go on and on, if your intention is to "discredit someone' opinion" by attacking their credibility.

Having explained that part, let us focus on the substance of your post and the authority you quoted

Nigeria: Immunity, Defamation And Press Freedom

Legal AffairsMediaNigeriaWest Africa

By Buchi Okoli
Immunity cannot shield any governor from verbal recklessness and cannot be a defence to defamation.

The 1999 constitution contains a clause that has become flagrantly abused and disrespected by the persons to whom it refers. The section aims at protecting the persons sought to be protected. This however does not in the least permit or encourage executive lawlessness on the part of the person with immunity. The person with immunity must have a duty not to deliberately flaunt the constitution and make nonsense of the immunity clause. Their criminal accusation of any citizen must be based on facts and not hearsay. A fact anyway must not necessarily be the truth. Immunity must be earned and not acquired by anybody. It applies to the office and not the person occupying the office. However in the new improved constitution yet to evolve, the excesses of this clause must be clogged. My only regret in this is that the National Assembly seem very lackadaisical about this constitutional review, which is a major function of their existence as per the 1999 constitution.

On reading through, l noticed that this quote is also an OPINION of a legal body/individual.
I am sure we can both distinguish between an "OPINION"..... and a "FACT OF LAW" (something stated expressly or back-up expressly by the wordings of the Constitution .... or by PRECEDENCE JUDGEMENT).

I am also sure we both notice the "repeated use" of phrases like "Must be", "Yet to Evolve" in the expressed "opinion".... which are all FUTURE TENSES that shows these are what the legal entity making this submission ..... "hopes will be in place (in the constitution) , in the FUTURE" .

Until the such amendments he/she is expecting to be made to the constitution is made, .... the Constitution still remains what it is.


Grey Areas:
The above Opinion of a legal expert DID NOT also state the "grey areas" you mentioned.... except if you mean that by disagreeing with or having a contrary opinion to "the position/wordings of the Constitution" on a matter, constitutes a "grey area". No, it doesn't Sir.

In my own understanding, "grey areas" should mean where "The CONSTITUTION states "A" in one place... and then states the OPPOSITE "B" in another place such that "there seems to appear a CONFLICT in the wordings of the Constitution". Then, it is "grey" and needs further "legal interpretation" by the Supreme Court, being the highest court of the land



The OPINION even went further to highlight what l said in one of my previous post that "the current Assembly will rather give themselves immunity as well, rather than amend/clarify the immunity clause in such a way it can create a pathway for erring "office holders" conferred with immunity, to still face legal consequences in their own personal right, while still enjoying the "official immunity".

This is currently NOT the case.



Now, to the issue of the Presidential office/ VP:

The VP is a respected legal luminary no doubt and l dont want you to view my post as impugning on his credibility. Not in anyway.

Permit me to use an "analogy" to explain what l am about to say, as it is more of a common sense explanation... (as against a legal one )

Now, a SAN Lawyer is someone who is also versed in the Law, both experience and qualification-wise.
You and l will expect that someone with a SAN knows the Law in-and-out and can differentiate when something is lawful or not.

With the above in mind, ......In case of litigation, how do you explain a situation where both "opposing sides of the argument" are represented by a few SAN's, both claiming to be RIGHT and CORRECT at the same time?

1.) It is either one of the SAN's (one side of the argument) dont know what they are saying (the true position of the law on the matter) but
that would be preposterous, for us to even think, knowing who/what a SAN is ... or

2.) One of the side's SAN's is just "arguing and hoping" they can pull a wool over the eyes of the law while just trying to "serve their side of the argument".

Basically, what l am inferring from this example, is that "the much respected V.P, a Prof of Law, knows the truth but is just "serving his side of the argument".
Lawyers do this all the time!


Until they now go forward to institute a legal case (based on their position).... AND WIN SUCH CASE IN COURT, .....
....until then, they are simply "feeding the public" with their personal opinion
.


I dont expect the VP to come out in support of Fayose and affirm publicly that the Constitution actually gave him a "Carte Blanche" to be criminally rascally!

Sit back and think about it for a moment.
In doing so, bear it in mind that Lawyers "prove (argue) and win" a case in court not by expressing their "opinion" but by citing/quoting the relevant section of the Law which backs their argument.

For now, Section 308 of the CONSTITUTION backs my argument that Fayose cannot be successfully prosecuted (civilly or criminally) while occupying the office of a State Governor.



BTW: I agree that Immunity SHOULD NOT shield any Public office holder from verbal recklessness, the type Fayose has engaged-in, over and over again.


Have a good day.





Lastpage!

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by lastpage: 5:56pm On Jun 22, 2016
iamdstar:
ppl should read this article on this case and give their opinion. personally I want to believe Fayose on this.

http://www.post-nigeria.com/us-court-documents-reveal-aisha-buharis-involvement-in-the-atiku-jefferson-scandal/

I read the article and some paragrapgh, which l quote below, is worth "examining" for CLUES!

As indicated by the New York Times story, “she (Aisha Buhari) told him that her father was the former military ruler of Nigeria, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, and that her American friends included politicians like Mr. Jefferson of Louisiana.”

The former Governor, also verified the claim by the New York Times when he said, he knows Ms. Buhari’s daughter, who is still a powerful Nigerian politician, by reputation. He also met her, he said, in 2001 when she accompanied a group of American politicians that included Mr. Jefferson to Akwa Ibom, to see oil-related pollution problems there.

“All I needed to do was ask Aisha if she knew him,” Mr. Attah recalls.

From the above, it is clear that much of the evidence linking Buhari name to the crime, is provided by the former Akwa Ibom Governor.
He is what we call a Principal Witness.


Now, only scrutinising his deposition, one would notice that:

*He knows the accused very well, in person
*He has repeatedly referred to the accused person as DAUGHTER of Buhari
*He has repeatedly alluded to the relationship between the accused and our current President as that of FATHER and DAUGHTER.


[b] It is my own conviction that, based on the provided witness depositions (FACTS, which evidence the Court has found reliable and relied upon), the relationship between the current President and the accused lady "Aisha" Buhari, is that of "Father and Daughter".

The lady that Fayose is currently accusing of being the "accused person" in the scandal, has a relationship of "HUSBAND and WIFE" with President Buhari... going over 30yrs and predating the scandal (which was between 2001 AND 2005)

Based on these FACTS (as against opinions), the President's wife cannot be the accused person, who was his daughter (adopted or biological) as shown in the witness depositions.

FAYOSE missed this one, except he can provide incontrovertible proof, that both are one and the same person.
As of this moment, he has not done that.

"the LAW is about EVIDENCE".....put before the Court".[/b]

Gbawe, what is your take?



Lastpage!

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Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by iamdstar(m): 6:25pm On Jun 22, 2016
lastpage:


I read the article and some paragrapgh, which l quote below, is worth "examining" for CLUES!



From the above, it is clear that much of the evidence linking Buhari name to the crime, is provided by the former Akwa Ibom Governor.
He is what we call a Principal Witness.


Now, only scrutinising his deposition, one would notice that:

*He knows the accused very well, in person
*He has repeatedly referred to the accused person as DAUGHTER of Buhari
*He has repeatedly alluded to the relationship between the accused and our current President as that of FATHER and DAUGHTER.


[b] It is my own conviction that, based on the provided witness depositions (FACTS, which evidence the Court has found reliable and relied upon), the relationship between the current President and the accused lady "Aisha" Buhari, is that of "Father and Daughter".

The lady that Fayose is currently accusing of being the "accused person" in the scandal, has a relationship of "HUSBAND and WIFE" with President Buhari... going over 30yrs and predating the scandal (which was between 2001 AND 2005)

Based on these FACTS (as against opinions), the President's wife cannot be the accused person, who was his daughter (adopted or biological) as shown in the witness depositions.

FAYOSE missed this one, except he can provide incontrovertible proof, that both are one and the same person.
As of this moment, he has not done that.

"the LAW is about EVIDENCE".....put before the Court".[/b]

Gbawe, what is your take?



Lastpage!





Thanks mate for giving your own take on this and I am glad we still have reasonable ppl who will comment on a post with logic and their own findings based on facts available. Well for me I just want this country rid of our corrupt leaders and it should be done soonest.

Meanwhile can you please tell me your take on this issue of the legislatures asking for immunity for their leaders just like the executive arm of the govt are enjoying?
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by lastpage: 7:50pm On Jun 22, 2016
iamdstar:


Thanks mate for giving your own take on this and I am glad we still have reasonable ppl who will comment on a post with logic and their own findings based on facts available. Well for me I just want this country rid of our corrupt leaders and it should be done soonest.

Meanwhile can you please tell me your take on this issue of the legislatures asking for immunity for their leaders just like the executive arm of the govt are enjoying?

Sir,

I share the bolded sentiments with you, in its entirety.

Based on the principle of Separation of Powers, each arm of Government should be independent and able to discharge it duties without fear or favor from another arm of Govt.
Such fear would arise from issues of threat to "starve them of fund" (Executive => Judiciary and legislature), prosecute them (Executive => Legislature), with-hold the passing of financial legislation to run the Govt (legislature => Executive), Unfounded threat of impeachment (legislature => Executive) e.t.c

Immunity is a PROTECTION from Prosecution, while occupying a designated office.
But as has been identified above, such Immunity has to be assumed with a sound character, responsible personality and not abused to commit and act with impunity! fayose is a good example of the latter parts!

On the Legislature, we should ask ourselves: Why do they need Immunity? What level of "protection" do they currently have? and finally? What is their antecedents, that makes them a candidate for such immunity?

On a general note, everyone who occupies a Public office cannot enjoy immunity from prosecution because it is a very powerful constitutional protection!

1.) the legislature already enjoys "financial immunity" such that whether salary are not paid or Nigeria earns only ten Naira in a financial year, their own ALLOCATION from the Nation's purse is guaranteed! Yes, they would get their MONEY if me and you cannot be paid for work done to the public service, whether Hospitals cant buy Oxygen to attend to surgery patients, whether teachers cant get salary, e.t.c

This is explained a few months back when the Senate President, Bukola Saraki bought close to 50 Vehicles (cant remember the exact number now) at #36Million Naira each, as GIFT for his fellow Senators who followed him to the CCT tribunal ..... in a country that was so broke that majority of States were going abroad to borrow money to pay backlog of salaries to public servants!
He claimed that money was the money left from the previous years Budget..... but one might ask if unspent Budget are not supposed to be returned to the nations treasury and used judiciously?

The Executive Arm of Govt could have seized the money but then, the NASS money is under IMMUNITY! grin

Again, we know that a lot of our former Governors simply "transformed to Senators" by brazen rigging and using state funds to buy elections!

Question is why would someone who has governed a State for 8years, seek to become a Senator (Not even a Minister?)
The answer lies in the "partial protection" they enjoy (a sort of mini-immunity) as Senators!

Our own Senators want to use the Senate to "protect their criminality"..... as opposed to use it to make laws that better the citizens and protect the weak!
Thieves and treasury looters clamour to become Senators just so they can be shielded from their past crimes!
If the Govt agency tries to prosecute a former Governor (now Senator) who has looted his state's treasury (like most ex-Governors).. he will simply brandish the "they want to muzzle Legislative Arm of Govt Card"... so his mates can rally around him!
You know their is "protection/honor between thieves"! grin

Many Governors who are now Senators have killed people or organised assassinations of their political opponent! Remember Bola Ige was the nations Attorney General when he was murdered in his bedroom?

Now, imagine if such people are given constitutional immunity from ALL PROSECUTIONS, like the Governors! It would be MAYHEM on earth!

Finally, the 'reason detre' behind giving Federal and state Executives "immunity' was to prevent them from being subjected to frivolous, legal distractions which would prevent them from adequately discharging their responsibility to the Public (everyone will sue the President or Governor, if they can!)
It was not construed to be used as an instrument of oppression or abuse of office or to commit and cover-up crimes!... which is what it is mostly being used for, by some of those enjoying it now, despite their number being limited.

I have predicted before now that the first thing Fayose will do just before his immunity expires, is to become a Senator!
he wants to shield himself form answering for whatever crime he has been accused of!

So, if you give Senators immunity, Senators who by their antecedents have shown that they dont err on the side of the Citizens?
Senators who blatantly increase their own Salaries and Allowances when the same Govt is asking the citizens to "tighten and already tight belt"?
Senators who are known to collect Bribes and pervert the course of Justice?
Senators who collect salaries for doing virtually NOTHING, some dont even attend sessions and only do so when there is money to be shared?
Senators who cannot purge the criminals amongst themselves?


My point is you dont accrue such "absolute power" to irresponsible and very selfish people!
Everyone accused of a crime should be willing to go to the court to prove their innocence and defend their integrity. Even sue for Libel/Defamation/Character assassination.

No one should be able to say "I dont want to be charged o court", in the absolute sense..... Not even the President (though he gets "impeachment" on his neck, to checkmate him, something Senators dont get)!

I would rather Judges have immunity (and they also do to a little extent, in their own Court..... and the Judicial Council is also a disciplinary body for them..... whereas there is nothing like that to discipline Senators!)

As of now, only the Legislative arm of Govt (out of the three Arms) does not have a "check and balance" body to discipline them!
They cant even be recalled by their constituency or removed when they "jump ship" after being elected on the platform of a political party.

Its this bad already!


Do you also remember the Senator Farouk Lawan-Gate scandal? was he prosecuted or disciplined in anyway? NO!

Now, imagine adding immunity to the protection of such criminals!

Infact, if you ask me, l would suggest that the Senate be abolished "as it is" now, turned to a "part-time" body (where they are paid only a stipend as sitting allowance and can do their daily jobs elsewhere) while making laws for the country.

There is too much "money and power" attached to these political offices, that is why it has become a do-or-die affair and Criminals are attracted to it ......more than intelligent, patriotic people!


The IMMUNITY thing should even be restricted to the President alone and the V.P should only have it when they are acting in capacity as President
Forget giving it to Senators. That should NEVER happen!


The above is my opinion.

Thank you.





Lastpage!

PS: I was writng this while watching 2016 Euro Championships at the same time, so the idea might be disjointed a bit. forgive me.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Fryzi(m): 8:31pm On Jun 22, 2016
And someone who is less educated wrote dis 4 her cause dis isn't her so doing. Again, insulting Fayose who is more older than her is not ideal. Ma take
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Alezy(m): 9:13pm On Jun 22, 2016
LordVarys:
Despite Rotimi Amaechi's relentless attacks on Mama Peace, she never responded to him instead leaving it to her subordinates and minions to handle. The First Lady should take the high road and keep her dignity.
good comment.

Amechi did worse on PEJ, she never said anything. She just did her thing underground.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Alezy(m): 9:14pm On Jun 22, 2016
LordVarys:
Despite Rotimi Amaechi's relentless attacks on Mama Peace, she never responded to him instead leaving it to her subordinates and minions to handle. The First Lady should take the high road and keep her dignity.
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by Drbarmes(m): 11:15pm On Jun 22, 2016
doublewisdom:
Aisha is a tout and a thief! Cheap wh.ore in Aso Rock!


What u see in other people is in u
Re: Aisha Buhari Calls Fayose A Mad Dog; Nigerians On Twitter React by iamdstar(m): 8:45am On Jun 23, 2016
lastpage:


Sir,

I share the bolded sentiments with you, in its entirety.

Based on the principle of Separation of Powers, each arm of Government should be independent and able to discharge it duties without fear or favor from another arm of Govt.
Such fear would arise from issues of threat to "starve them of fund" (Executive => Judiciary and legislature), prosecute them (Executive => Legislature), with-hold the passing of financial legislation to run the Govt (legislature => Executive), Unfounded threat of impeachment (legislature => Executive) e.t.c

Immunity is a PROTECTION from Prosecution, while occupying a designated office.
But as has been identified above, such Immunity has to be assumed with a sound character, responsible personality and not abused to commit and act with impunity! fayose is a good example of the latter parts!

On the Legislature, we should ask ourselves: Why do they need Immunity? What level of "protection" do they currently have? and finally? What is their antecedents, that makes them a candidate for such immunity?

On a general note, everyone who occupies a Public office cannot enjoy immunity from prosecution because it is a very powerful constitutional protection!

1.) the legislature already enjoys "financial immunity" such that whether salary are not paid or Nigeria earns only ten Naira in a financial year, their own ALLOCATION from the Nation's purse is guaranteed! Yes, they would get their MONEY if me and you cannot be paid for work done to the public service, whether Hospitals cant buy Oxygen to attend to surgery patients, whether teachers cant get salary, e.t.c

This is explained a few months back when the Senate President, Bukola Saraki bought close to 50 Vehicles (cant remember the exact number now) at #36Million Naira each, as GIFT for his fellow Senators who followed him to the CCT tribunal ..... in a country that was so broke that majority of States were going abroad to borrow money to pay backlog of salaries to public servants!
He claimed that money was the money left from the previous years Budget..... but one might ask if unspent Budget are not supposed to be returned to the nations treasury and used judiciously?

The Executive Arm of Govt could have seized the money but then, the NASS money is under IMMUNITY! grin

Again, we know that a lot of our former Governors simply "transformed to Senators" by brazen rigging and using state funds to buy elections!

Question is why would someone who has governed a State for 8years, seek to become a Senator (Not even a Minister?)
The answer lies in the "partial protection" they enjoy (a sort of mini-immunity) as Senators!

Our own Senators want to use the Senate to "protect their criminality"..... as opposed to use it to make laws that better the citizens and protect the weak!
Thieves and treasury looters clamour to become Senators just so they can be shielded from their past crimes!
If the Govt agency tries to prosecute a former Governor (now Senator) who has looted his state's treasury (like most ex-Governors).. he will simply brandish the "they want to muzzle Legislative Arm of Govt Card"... so his mates can rally around him!
You know their is "protection/honor between thieves"! grin

Many Governors who are now Senators have killed people or organised assassinations of their political opponent! Remember Bola Ige was the nations Attorney General when he was murdered in his bedroom?

Now, imagine if such people are given constitutional immunity from ALL PROSECUTIONS, like the Governors! It would be MAYHEM on earth!

Finally, the 'reason detre' behind giving Federal and state Executives "immunity' was to prevent them from being subjected to frivolous, legal distractions which would prevent them from adequately discharging their responsibility to the Public (everyone will sue the President or Governor, if they can!)
It was not construed to be used as an instrument of oppression or abuse of office or to commit and cover-up crimes!... which is what it is mostly being used for, by some of those enjoying it now, despite their number being limited.

I have predicted before now that the first thing Fayose will do just before his immunity expires, is to become a Senator!
he wants to shield himself form answering for whatever crime he has been accused of!

So, if you give Senators immunity, Senators who by their antecedents have shown that they dont err on the side of the Citizens?
Senators who blatantly increase their own Salaries and Allowances when the same Govt is asking the citizens to "tighten and already tight belt"?
Senators who are known to collect Bribes and pervert the course of Justice?
Senators who collect salaries for doing virtually NOTHING, some dont even attend sessions and only do so when there is money to be shared?
Senators who cannot purge the criminals amongst themselves?


My point is you dont accrue such "absolute power" to irresponsible and very selfish people!
Everyone accused of a crime should be willing to go to the court to prove their innocence and defend their integrity. Even sue for Libel/Defamation/Character assassination.

No one should be able to say "I dont want to be charged o court", in the absolute sense..... Not even the President (though he gets "impeachment" on his neck, to checkmate him, something Senators dont get)!

I would rather Judges have immunity (and they also do to a little extent, in their own Court..... and the Judicial Council is also a disciplinary body for them..... whereas there is nothing like that to discipline Senators!)

As of now, only the Legislative arm of Govt (out of the three Arms) does not have a "check and balance" body to discipline them!
They cant even be recalled by their constituency or removed when they "jump ship" after being elected on the platform of a political party.

Its this bad already!


Do you also remember the Senator Farouk Lawan-Gate scandal? was he prosecuted or disciplined in anyway? NO!

Now, imagine adding immunity to the protection of such criminals!

Infact, if you ask me, l would suggest that the Senate be abolished "as it is" now, turned to a "part-time" body (where they are paid only a stipend as sitting allowance and can do their daily jobs elsewhere) while making laws for the country.

There is too much "money and power" attached to these political offices, that is why it has become a do-or-die affair and Criminals are attracted to it ......more than intelligent, patriotic people!


The IMMUNITY thing should even be restricted to the President alone and the V.P should only have it when they are acting in capacity as President
Forget giving it to Senators. That should NEVER happen!


The above is my opinion.

Thank you.





Lastpage!

PS: I was writng this while watching 2016 Euro Championships at the same time, so the idea might be disjointed a bit. forgive me.






Bro you've been absolutely spot on about this. God bless your sound mind and intelligence. My own take now is that we need CONSTITUTION AMMENDMENT so that this immunity of thing can be either removed OR changed from "Absolute immunity" to "conditional immunity"

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