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Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by CopyLearner: 6:02pm On Jun 28, 2016
bemnickenzie:


Now you are getting it right. Catholic church condemns homosexuality and the Pope have written so many articles and homily condemning the act. Condemn the act and not the individual just as the Pope did. Just like Jesus told the adulterous woman, "...neither will I condemn you..." doesn't mean he support adultery but He welcomed her and helped her to come out of such act by telling her, "Go and sin no more". We really need to act like Christ.
yeah. I wish d pope had added the last clause though "go n sin no more". That would have made a million of difference. God help us
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Achorise: 8:28pm On Jun 28, 2016
grandstar:


Yes I am
wow! ! nice.my mum is a JW.I used to be one.you spoke very well, I didn't see religious affiliation in your comment, you sound neutral.

I used to be a strong JW.my entire family used to be, my father died been a JW, but we have all left.(smiles) but my mum is still an ardent member.

Good religion keep it up.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Achorise: 8:29pm On Jun 28, 2016
grandstar:


Yes I am
wow! ! nice.my mum is a JW.I used to be one.you spoke very well, I didn't see religious affiliation in your comment, you sound neutral.

I used to be a strong JW.my entire family used to be, my father died been a JW, but we have all left.(smiles) but my mum is still an ardent member.

Good bless you bro, keep the good.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Achorise: 8:43pm On Jun 28, 2016
grandstar:


One of my closest pals is gay! We even spoke today and told he told me that his boyfriend broke up with him.

There is this myth that because you do not support something or condemn it means you hate the doer!

That is wrong.

I hate smoking but does not mean I hate smokers.

I hate polygamy does not mean I hate Alhaji's with multiple wives. There is a line.

When I made some cash recently, I gave him some.

When he needed extra, I extended it to him without asking.

When he needed a loan, I gave him.

The bible says we should work what is good towards all especially to those related to us in the Truth.(Galatian 6:10)

Our heavenly father makes the sun rise on good people and the rain to fall on good people and those who are not good.

We must be perfect just as he is perfect (Matthew 5:43-48)

you made my day!!well spoken, you are more liberal. but at the same time be careful.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by blueAgent(m): 9:17pm On Jun 28, 2016
The pope and the Catholic Church is the mystery Babaylon the Bible talks about. they are Occultic.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by blueAgent(m): 9:17pm On Jun 28, 2016
The pope and the Catholic Church are the mystery Babaylon the Bible talks about. they are Occultic.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by filly21: 7:32am On Jun 29, 2016
misreal:
lol...mr pope if i should apologize to homosexuals,then i think i should also apologize to isis and bokoharam.because a sin is a sin..


right exactly.... smiley smiley
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by grandstar(m): 9:53am On Jun 29, 2016
Achorise:
wow! ! nice.my mum is a JW.I used to be one.you spoke very well, I didn't see religious affiliation in your comment, you sound neutral.

I used to be a strong JW.my entire family used to be, my father died been a JW, but we have all left.(smiles) but my mum is still an ardent member.

Good bless you bro, keep the good.

I have become weak because of some trials I faced. But I know this is the Truth and I am determined to rebuild my First.

I am determined to hold fast to the hope I had in the beginning down to the end.

I see you are nostalgic. There is nothing like Jehovah's organisation. It is second to none.

Jehovah wants you back (Luke 11:11-32)

Visit jw.org.

Watch videos and download songs.

You can now attend meetings with only your smartphone or tablets. Almost everything is online.

Brothers now use their phones in the field ministry by showing videos. They even transfer books etc.

Pls update yourself.

Come to the meeting. You will be welcome with open arms especially if brothers know you were once one of us.

Come and taste life's waters free!
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Achorise: 2:23pm On Jun 29, 2016
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I have become weak because of some trials I faced. But I know this is the Truth and I am determined to rebuild my First.

I am determined to hold fast to the hope I had in the beginning down to the end.

I see you are nostalgic. There is nothing like Jehovah's organisation. It is second to none.

Jehovah wants you back (Luke 11:11-32)

Visit jw.org.

Watch videos and download songs.

You can now attend meetings with only your smartphone or tablets. Almost everything is online.

Brothers now use their phones in the field ministry by showing videos. They even transfer books etc.

Pls update yourself.

Come to the meeting. You will be welcome with open arms especially if brothers know you were once one of us.

Come and taste life's waters free! .Thanks dear for your sincere concern, I appreciate. But I never in this life will I be part of JW organization. I have found Something deeper and better, I'm more fulfilled now.
I have a deeper experience with God , and my eternity can not be slaughtered on the alter of religion based on principle and ideology of men.
I appreciate your concern for me.
Have you ever experienced what you preached ?
or independently go through some religious ideology and beliefs.

I appreciate the witnesses alot, you guys are good people. but Christian is not about good people.
may be one day I will know you one on one.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by charlsecy: 8:32pm On Jun 29, 2016
oaroloye:
He has no right to suggest that Christians should apologize to Homosexuals.
Hey, if you ever offended a person just because they're homosexual, you have to apologise to them. Period.

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Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:41pm On Jun 30, 2016
Laburus:
Which of the version of the Bible are you Quoting the Matthew 24:14 from? is the SV,KJV, RSV ETC?

Just Asking for a Friend. grin wink




KJV
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:51pm On Jun 30, 2016
saintmark88:


So r u justifying the killings melted out on d LGBT community carried out in a night club in Orlando.... Congrats rebuking and condemning them u know, the question is d dude who killed emm and the homosexuals, who is more righteous??.... That's a question for u to ansa.....

The church made it clear in that article that it's stance on homosexuality been a sin against God hasn't changed....so d church in any way isn't condoning the act, it's simplying saying d LGBT community shouldnt be condemned, buh in love should be received, dnt forget even Jesus himself had dinner in d house of a Pharisee...simon were he met d woman who wiped his feet with her hair, so if Jesus could accept sinners, then d Pope is right on point.

The important thing yu should understand is that bin an homosexual isn't just like any other sin, like fornication, stealing, adultery...... Homosexuality is an orientation, it's a more deeper sin, it's like someone saying am a vegetarian, "I don't eat meat".... I dnt expect u to understand the popes stand on this if u don't have Love and Mercy in you.... The important thing u must know is in d popes article, it stated that, the churches stand on homosexuality been a sin against God still hasn't changed.... I'm sure u saw tht part n decided to ignore just because u want to argue.....


I never supported the killing of anyone ooo. Thats your own rhematic escape plan to the message
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receive them and receive the devil.
Jesus dined with sinners inother to preach and save them. But what part are you and your pope playing in preaching to them? Rather u make them friends and they feel comfortable being a homo and bearing the name of christianity. You tell them about love and mercy but fail to tell them about God's judgement. Your a hypocrite. undecided

Moreover the bible mentioned "be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what CONCORD has Christ with belial or light with darkness?"
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jun 30, 2016
youngaz:
Saw diz on CNN yesterday and i was lyk WTF!.........so iz Pope Francis indirectly saying homosexuality is not a sin or we shuld just embrace dem 4 who dey are??.....well lyk me i ave 8 of mah friends dat are gays bt i dnt hate dem nor do i really associate wit dem

You have 8 gay friends and you don't hate them and you are not gay?

Is there anything you should be telling us?
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Pchidexy(m): 8:08am On Jul 01, 2016
ooshinibos:


pope stands for Catholics not for all Christian ..I believe he speaking to his fellow Catholics ..I don't believe in denominational Christianity ,its not in the Bible

Shut your dirty mouth! Christianity was preserved by the Roman Catholic church. Your new generation church derived its teaching from the same Catholic church

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Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by ooshinibos: 10:37am On Jul 01, 2016
Pchidexy:


Shut your dirty mouth! Christianity was preserved by the Roman Catholic church. Your new generation church derived its teaching from the same Catholic church

you are definitely not a Christian or you will not abuse me ...in Christianity there is no denomination and our salvation is not based on being a Baptist , charismatic , Pentecostal or whatever man has created to suit their culture ..read your Bible and you will understand ..its simple and not complicated except to a Nigeria like you :-)
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by kosovo(m): 10:50am On Jul 01, 2016
efstore:
if you have a brain and educated, you understand what we called netiquette, the ways and manner to behalf online, and act politely by commenting positively in an open global forum, check your life, something must be wrong, either your brain is washed or your life washed with blood of the devil, but as the sun, moon and star stand to give glory to God, you will serve the Lord your God not the devil, By the special Grace of God you will be among those that will depolulate the Kingdom of Darkness.

Just look at the shameless religious bigot shaming gay. Yet condeming me to hell. Without Love you are totally nothing, you are darker than a charcoal. Ask Apostle Paul... SMH, shameless deeperlifer
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by BAZETU12: 10:55pm On Jul 01, 2016
grandstar:


You may have a point.

Nonetheless, did he condemn homosexuality? That will be right.

As I said, the Bible also condemns homophobia.

It is self righteous hypocritical and cruel to single out gay's because they are a vulnerable minority.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by BAZETU12: 10:57pm On Jul 01, 2016
grandstar:


You may have a point.

Nonetheless, did he condemn homosexuality? That will be right.

As I said, the Bible also condemns homophobia.

It is self righteous hypocritical and cruel to single out gay's because they are a vulnerable minority.


See my freind bible condemns anything like gay?, bible saying dis bible say dat that's why i like islam more dan christian. Bible say dat bible say dis, koran always say d point
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by coolviv: 4:48pm On Jul 03, 2016
mrZENographer:


Just saying what the devil and homosexuals want you to say. It is not of God. We rebuke sinners and attempt to dissuade them from sin, whose consequence is death.
How then can you call that judge or condemnation? Its the bible that we preached that condemns them not us. We tell them what the bible says.

The strong delusion is coming, if u keeping romancing yourself with pope and the wicked, you may not escape. Which spells eternal doom. Dont fall for enticing words and propaganda from false teachers and prophets. You have been warned/...on Nairaland.

Do not consider yourself saved lest you fall. You should warn yourself. It is folly to be so prideful and sure of yourself. You might really need to remove the log from your eyes so that you can see clearly what a religious bigot you are. For real...what d hell do u mean by I'm saying what they want me to say? Like seriously...I'm saying what the bible said. Don't know any homos. ..don't really like what they do..For health and natural reasons...but I'm sure as hell not going to sit high and mighty in judgement of what I don't even understand.

When reading your bible. ..read more on love...peace with all men...and joy beyond understanding. Leave the condemnation for those in charge of it hmm?

Okay. I'm out.

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Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Felincous(m): 12:24pm On Jul 04, 2016
mrZENographer:
The point of genuine believers is to dissuade u from sin and make u understand its consequences. But because u want to remain disobedient , ignorant, a pleasure whoremonger, you and the ungodly thousands tag our sincere motive as CONDEMNATION, just so u can remain justified and comfortable in your wickedness. Now the pope just pampered you the more, so you can drench deeply and more comfortable in your atrocity.Jesus said " I judge no man. The same words that i speak will judge him on the last days"My dear, we dont need to judge u (thats ur propaganda) but educate you. The bible is the one that will judge you.Revelation 21:8 "BUT THE FEARFUL... , ABOMINABLE, WHOREMONGERS AND ALL LIARS shall have their part in the lake of fire".

I'm neva a gay nd I won't be till Jesus cmes or I die buh try nd remove log of woods in ur eye b4 castigatin others it might eventually lead u to the hell fire u re running away from.Even Jesus dat u profess to follow did nt cndm.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Kaycee7(m): 1:58pm On Jul 04, 2016
Our Lord Jesus Christ summed up the directives of living a christian life in two commandments (Note that these two commandments do not nullify the original ten God gave to Moses). Our Lord said,
" Love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your strength."
" Love your neighbour as you love yourself. "

I ask you my fellow christians,

- Will you discriminate yourself over your faults, or will you rather seek to repent and better yourself?
- Will you ostracize yourself because you commit a sin which God hates most, or will you put effort in bringing yourself closer to Him?

Was it not Jesus Christ who said, " Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you "? Have you ever offered up prayers to God for a homosexual? Have you ever asked for their forgiveness from God? Have you ever asked God to take control in their lives? Or do you just rebuke and curse them? When we pray for sinners, homosexuals are supposed to be part of those sinners we pray for.

Was it not Jesus Christ who also said, " If you have wronged your brother, leave your offering at the altar and go and obtain his forgiveness first. Then come and give your offering ". Did he say that your brother must be more righteous than you? The Pope is saying that we, The Church, have been very unchristian towards homosexuals and that is why we owe them an apology. We accommodate the adulterous, the dishonest and even the violent. Yet we have not extended the same courtesy to the homosexuals. The Holy Father is asking us to desist from this attitude. With that same heart that we use to accommodate other sinners, let us make a space for them somewhere in there.

To my protestant brethren, we all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. We should be in unity, not in conflict. Do you think Catholics can't list fake pastors and prophets, e.t.c? We won't and we shouldn't. Remember that where there are 2 or 3 gathered in God's name, the devil is also in their midst seeking to cause confusion, to plant weeds among the crop. Yes, we have fallen priests. But are these priests not human? Should they not be given the chance to rise again? Did Peter not deny Jesus 3 times?
Yes, Pope Francis speaks for The Church whether you like it or not.
For The Church is One, Catholic and Apostolic.
God is Love. Let us show love to our fellow man. Let us sow seeds of love instead of seeds of hate.
May God continue to protect and guide his people.

#Proud2beCatholic
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:00pm On Jul 13, 2016
coolviv:


Do not consider yourself saved lest you fall. You should warn yourself. It is folly to be so prideful and sure of yourself. You might really need to remove the log from your eyes so that you can see clearly what a religious bigot you are. For real...what d hell do u mean by I'm saying what they want me to say? Like seriously...I'm saying what the bible said. Don't know any homos. ..don't really like what they do..For health and natural reasons...but I'm sure as hell not going to sit high and mighty in judgement of what I don't even understand.

When reading your bible. ..read more on love...peace with all men...and joy beyond understanding. Leave the condemnation for those in charge of it hmm?

Okay. I'm out.

OK, OK then, turn a blind eye and let your children play with fire till it burns them to death. Since you cannot tell the difference BTW rebuking them and condemning them.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:17pm On Jul 13, 2016
Coolviv kaycee7
Felincous:


I'm neva a gay nd I won't be till Jesus cmes or I die buh try nd remove log of woods in ur eye b4 castigatin others it might eventually lead u to the hell fire u re running away from.Even Jesus dat u profess to follow did nt cndm.

Wow yes Jesus did not condemn but he said in Matthew 23 'woe to you pharisees because if the gospel had been preached to the people of Sodom, they would have long repented'.

Come to think of it? Why don't you gay advocates/defenders use any other words apart from "condemning"? Like rebuke, CORRECT, chastise, WARN, instruct?
Oh I know why. It's because you people are big hypocrites. HY-PO-CRITES. Keep going to church and still believe ur a Christian. I don't blame u, I blame ur teacher who wouldn't teach undiluted word of God.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:52pm On Jul 13, 2016
Kaycee7:
Our Lord Jesus Christ summed up the directives of living a christian life in two commandments (Note that these two commandments do not nullify the original ten God gave to Moses). Our Lord said,
" Love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your strength."
" Love your neighbour as you love yourself. "

I ask you my fellow christians,

- Will you discriminate yourself over your faults, or will you rather seek to repent and better yourself?
- Will you ostracize yourself because you commit a sin which God hates most, or will you put effort in bringing yourself closer to Him?

Was it not Jesus Christ who said, " Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you "? Have you ever offered up prayers to God for a homosexual? Have you ever asked for their forgiveness from God? Have you ever asked God to take control in their lives? Or do you just rebuke and curse them? When we pray for sinners, homosexuals are supposed to be part of those sinners we pray for.

Was it not Jesus Christ who also said, " If you have wronged your brother, leave your offering at the altar and go and obtain his forgiveness first. Then come and give your offering ". Did he say that your brother must be more righteous than you? The Pope is saying that we, The Church, have been very unchristian towards homosexuals and that is why we owe them an apology. We accommodate the adulterous, the dishonest and even the violent. Yet we have not extended the same courtesy to the hom

To my protestant brethren, we all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. We should be in unity, not in conflict. Do you think Catholics can't list fake pastors and prophets, e.t.c? We won't and we shouldn't. Remember that where there are 2 or 3 gathered in God's name, the devil is also in their midst seeking to cause confusion, to plant weeds among the crop. Yes, we have fallen priests. But are these priests not human? Should they not be given the chance to rise again? Did Peter not deny Jesus 3 times?
Yes, Pope Francis speaks for The Church whether you like it or not.

#Proud2beCatholic

Pls do me a favor. Check if this is in your bible.

ROMANS 10:14 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?".

And this JAMES 5:20 "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."

And just one more pls! james 2:20 "But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

Praying(faith) for sinners repentance without preaching(works) to those you could reach out to is dead works.
Also correction pls, The Pope speaks for the Catholic Church and gays ...... not for all Christians.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Kaycee7(m): 8:52am On Jul 14, 2016
mrZENographer:


Pls do me a favor. Check if this is in your bible.

ROMANS 10:14 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?".

And this JAMES 5:20 "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."

And just one more pls! james 2:20 "But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

Praying(faith) for sinners repentance without preaching(works) to those you could reach out to is dead works.
Also correction pls, The Pope speaks for the Catholic Church and gays ...... not for all Christians.
Please do me a favour. Find the Pope's speech on the internet and read. Then, tell me if he said we should not preach to them.
Tell me, which preacher will draw more souls to God? The one who treats you like a human being while preaching? Or the one who treats you like a condemned criminal while preaching?
The Pope never said and is not implying that we should not preach to them and neither am I. The Pope is simply telling us to treat them as fellow human beings and if we have in any way meted out inhuman treatment to them, then we need to apologise.

mrZENographer:
Coolviv kaycee7
Wow yes Jesus did not condemn but he said in Matthew 23 'woe to you pharisees because if the gospel had been preached to the people of Sodom, they would have long repented'.
Come to think of it? Why don't you gay advocates/defenders use any other words apart from "condemning"? Like rebuke, CORRECT, chastise, WARN, instruct?
Oh I know why. It's because you people are big hypocrites. HY-PO-CRITES. Keep going to church and still believe ur a Christian. I don't blame u, I blame ur teacher who wouldn't teach undiluted word of God.
I don't understand your question ie the bolded. Could you re-phrase?
And I'm not a gay activist/defender. Just trying to help people understand the Pope's message.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Ubenedictus(m): 10:48pm On Jul 31, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
And here again the pope wrong, with due respect to him. Religion must take a position as it concerns sin like it did during the time of Sodom! The Pope is simply trying tooo hard to patronise the west!
Do u treat d fornicator u know same way u wil treat a gay?
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by N1sms: 6:27am On Aug 01, 2016
This is nothing but the need for FREEDOM FIRE
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:26pm On Aug 01, 2016
Kaycee7:
Please do me a favour. Find the Pope's speech on the internet and read. Then, tell me if he said we should not preach to them.
Tell me, which preacher will draw more souls to God? The one who treats you like a human being while preaching? Or the one who treats you like a condemned criminal while preaching?
The Pope never said and is not implying that we should not preach to them and neither am I. The Pope is simply telling us to treat them as fellow human beings and if we have in any way meted out inhuman treatment to them, then we need to apologise.

I don't understand your question ie the bolded. Could you re-phrase?
And I'm not a gay activist/defender. Just trying to help people understand the Pope's message.

The bible is never favourable for people who don't want to repent and still turn a blind eye to God's warning.

Telling them about God's love and acceptance irrespective of who or what they are is a great trick that only itching ears will endeavour to accept.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by mrZENographer: 5:30pm On Aug 01, 2016
Kaycee7:
Please do me a favour. Find the Pope's speech on the internet and read. Then, tell me if he said we should not preach to them.
Tell me, which preacher will draw more souls to God? The one who treats you like a human being while preaching? Or the one who treats you like a condemned criminal while preaching?
The Pope never said and is not implying that we should not preach to them and neither am I. The Pope is simply telling us to treat them as fellow human beings and if we have in any way meted out inhuman treatment to them, then we need to apologise.

I don't understand your question ie the bolded. Could you re-phrase?
And I'm not a gay activist/defender. Just trying to help people understand the Pope's message.

The bible is never favourable for people who don't want to repent and still turn a blind eye to God's warning.

Telling them about God's love and acceptance irrespective of who or what they are is a great trick that only itching ears will endeavour to accept.

Show me a place on internet where the pope rebukes the sin of homosexuality? Instead hes always on transit waving hands to them, every while they feign before him. Spare the rod and spoil the child.
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by Klare(f): 5:31pm On Aug 01, 2016
mrZENographer:


The bible is never favourable for people who don't want to repent and still turn a blind eye to God's warning.

Telling them about God's love and acceptance irrespective of who or what they are is a great trick that only itching ears will endeavour to accept.

Show me a place on internet where the pope rebukes the sin of homosexuality? Instead hes always on transit waving hands to them, every while they feign before him. Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Klare:
pls sir help Fynestboi. I vote Fynestboi cc nljega on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3261218/mr-nairaland-contest-2016-elimination/36
Re: "Christians Should Apologise To Gays" - Pope Francis by frubben(m): 10:28pm On Aug 01, 2016
ValentineMary:
After reading comments on this thread, I realised how ignorant many Nigerian christians are. Upon all ur holy holy Nigeria is rated the most unsafe place for kids to live as a result of sexual abuse. With such mentality displayed by xtians, the world can't make progress if they are the majority. The dark age is a fine example.


U are d only one hear whose brain is still functioning very well. Upon all the bible dey read.

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