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Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 02, 2016
guru01:

Why don't you host the project on github and let the contributions begin.
Forget it, Nigerian developers from my own experience do not contribute to open-source.

I started the framework 2009 - https://www.nairaland.com/283559/dhtml-framework-evolution - till date, no programmer that I know has contributed anything.

The usual response is - wow, this is a very good development, and all that talks. . . . . . . . .and it ends there.
Some developers have used it to do their work, some even extended it but never contributed back to the community.

So, i have padlocked it to my localhost - I shall continue to use it on selected projects sha.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 2:21pm On Jul 02, 2016
guru01:
Nice job done so far, clean interface and logo.
What the hell is my sach doing there.

I still don't understand how Nairaland work.
Thanks for the review,

Hmn, dont worry, this new version will be clear enough when it is completed.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by maekhel(m): 3:22pm On Jul 02, 2016
Jregz:


This in my opinion is wrong. Frameworks this days are nothing but packages - interoperable packages. FuelPHP, Laravel, AuraPHP, Symfony, name any.

If you feel you have to learn a particular feature and don't have the time, swap a library you know (that does the same thing) in at the cost of writing a single class (Provider for the framework) with one or 2 methods max . BAM. This is the height of productivity.

It even gets better with PSRs like the Caching interface and Http Message.. If "the inherited framework" uses guzzle/psr7 but you find it hard to use because the documentation the framework put up isn't nice enough (and you haven't used guzzle/psr7 before), switch to another implementation you know, say zend-diactoros.. BAM
Said it all.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jul 02, 2016
maekhel:

Said it all.
Yeap, lets hope that will keep the wailers quiet. . . .but i doubt it. By the way, this thread is very academic and interesting too.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by maekhel(m): 4:01pm On Jul 02, 2016
dhtml18:

Forget it, Nigerian developers from my own experience do not contribute to open-source.
You are quite right but NOT all of them oooo
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Codenister: 9:29pm On Jul 02, 2016
guru01:
Nice job done so far, clean interface and logo.
What the hell is my sach doing there.

I still don't understand how Nairaland work.

I guess it's an obsession grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by guru01(m): 10:53pm On Jul 02, 2016
Abeg what is a framework in programming context.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 7:15am On Jul 03, 2016
guru01:
Abeg what is a framework in programming context.
It is a frame that work.

Codenister:

I guess it's an obsession grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Sach obsession. Mister Sach, make sure you have completed your sach engine, so that Nairaland can use your sach api to instead of google search api that I am planning to use.

- dhtml18
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by guru01(m): 8:47am On Jul 03, 2016
Donjayzi abi na wetin u call yourself, wetin concern sach and Nairaland?
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by guru01(m): 8:49am On Jul 03, 2016
Dhtml18 pls hurry fast and finish this africoder thing, I want to use it to evangelize.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 12:30pm On Jul 03, 2016
dont worry brother, I am putting all hands on deck, I shall be uploading a test version very soon.
Then we can sach for my goat together

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Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jul 03, 2016
Jregz:


This in my opinion is wrong. Frameworks this days are nothing but packages - interoperable packages. FuelPHP, Laravel, AuraPHP, Symfony, name any.

If you feel you have to learn a particular feature and don't have the time, swap a library you know (that does the same thing) in at the cost of writing a single class (Provider for the framework) with one or 2 methods max . BAM. This is the height of productivity.

It even gets better with PSRs like the Caching interface and Http Message.. If "the inherited framework" uses guzzle/psr7 but you find it hard to use because the documentation the framework put up isn't nice enough (and you haven't used guzzle/psr7 before), switch to another implementation you know, say zend-diactoros.. BAM
Well, I don't understand what you mean by "interoperable packages" relating to the question I asked. Let's make the language simple. Are you saying a person who uses only Lavarel for instance can easily jump into a project built using FuelPHP without any struggles?
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jul 03, 2016
Ontarget:

Well, I don't understand what you mean by "interoperable packages" relating to the question I asked. Let's make the language simple. Are you saying a person who uses only Lavarel for instance can easily jump into a project built using FuelPHP without any struggles?
I understand what the dude is talking about. Take for example, I have a personal framework that most of my work is built on - it has its own templating engine that even uses smarty template engine.
When I came into codigniter, and looked at some templating engines, I decided that the fastest way was to use my own - so that I can use my former theme engine that I am used to.
It took me just few minutes to port my templating engine into codigniter, and now I have no problem with templating anymore - despite the fact that I am less than a week old in CI. And I did this without breaking CI or hacking the core files for that matter.

A long time ago, a developer on nairaland built a very powerful extension in Joomla, and wanted the same version in drupal. So i asked the dude to give me the joomla version - I looked at it, but his coding method is messed up as far as i was concerned, so i could not even figure out how the stuff works. That one no consign me, what I did was to rewrite the joomla component as a drupal module - with copy, paste and few adjustments - all that cost me like 2 hrs and I charged the dude like 50k for the job.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by ekeroyal(m): 11:25pm On Jul 03, 2016
Nice template @dhtml.
@maekhe, sound contributions.

Greetings to all other bosses and bossets.

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Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 03, 2016
Thanks people, a lot of work is going on in the background. I am now working on the backend.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nmeri17: 5:53am On Jul 05, 2016
Mediocre peeps be like .....

maekhel:
A thing I has come to realize in software/web development is that some people thinks by building stuffs from scratch(without a framework) approves them being a better programmer/developer. But it doesn't always work that way. There are lot of advantages working with frameworks will give you aside allowing you to follow best standards.


And mind you nobody actually does build from scratch, we all use one library or the other. The jQuery and the likes nko?!
^^^ Imagine the drivel. This is the kind of "realization" you get from engineers equating their fledgling prowess to the from-scratch guys.
Oga, so where you come from, they taught you that libraries and frameworks are roughly the same thing. smh. Nna, we give up! cry
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 6:56am On Jul 05, 2016
Errr, they are not the same thing literally speaking mind you

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Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ontarget:

Well, I don't understand what you mean by "interoperable packages" relating to the question I asked. Let's make the language simple. Are you saying a person who uses only Lavarel for instance can easily jump into a project built using FuelPHP without any struggles?
Iteroperable packages are libraries that are framework agnostic.. They can be used anywhere. A good example are the packages the PHP League releases.

Donjayzi already gave an answer, a practical one.. If you need to validate a form in FuelPHP but you can't learn the stuff, throw in Laravel's validation library or any other..

I saw one video - symfony conference - that talks about this same topic, I'm on mobile now, would update this post when I find it.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 05, 2016
^^^donjayzi === dhtml18, i was banned at that time.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jul 05, 2016
Jregz:

Iteroperable packages are libraries that are framework agnostic.. They can be used anywhere. A good example are the packages the PHP League releases.

Donjayzi already gave an answer, a practical one.. If you need to validate a form in FuelPHP but you can't learn the stuff, throw in Laravel's validation library or any other..

I saw one video - symfony conference - that talks about this same topic, I'm on mobile now, would update this post when I find it.
Ok. So what you are saying is if you are asked to edit a project created using FuelPHP and you don't understand the framework you can throw in Laravel library to do the editing. But how would you know what to edit when you don't understand fuelPHP itself? You will need to first understand fuelPHP before knowing what to edit.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by maekhel(m): 3:56pm On Jul 05, 2016
Nmeri17:

Oga, so where you come from, they taught you that libraries and frameworks are roughly the same thing. smh. Nna, we give up! cry
And who mentioned them being the same thing?
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ontarget:

Ok. So what you are saying is if you are asked to edit a project created using FuelPHP and you don't understand the framework you can throw in Laravel library to do the editing. But how would you know what to edit when you don't understand fuelPHP itself? You will need to first understand fuelPHP before knowing what to edit.

You don't get the drift..That's usually a last resort and BTW you were the one complaining of productivity, I said that as another option.... I'm outta this thread unless there's cookies
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 05, 2016
dhtml18:
^^^donjayzi === dhtml18, i was banned at that time.
Hehe.... A hundred and twenty accounts
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Codenister: 10:27pm On Jul 05, 2016
Jregz:

Hehe.... A hundred and twenty accounts
a hundred and twenty-one, actually
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jul 05, 2016
Jregz:

Hehe.... A hundred and twenty accounts
Hahaha, seun has banned many of them - i have just 20 left unfortunately
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 3:19pm On Jul 06, 2016
I am still igniting the codes dudes, I appreciate all the support so far.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by guru01(m): 11:19am On Jul 12, 2016
I am tired of waiting ooo, nl is very boring with boring topics.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 11:27am On Jul 12, 2016
Guys guys, the new Nairaland is moving at great pace. Since i am new with codigniter, i am pretty slow.
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by guru01(m): 2:00pm On Jul 12, 2016
dhtml18:
Guys guys, the new Nairaland is moving at great pace. Since i am new with codigniter, i am pretty slow.
Are you saying we have to wait till 2017 cry
Alright how long do we have to wait?
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by maekhel(m): 2:11pm On Jul 12, 2016
guru01:

Are you saying we have to wait till 2017 cry

Haba it won't be 2017

Alright how long do we have to wait?

It should be ready by 31-12-2016 grin

Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by onedayatime(m): 9:11pm On Jul 12, 2016
I will have to take a look at your framework, africoder but as for me, I love to re-invent the will anytime as it makes me understand more of the language
Re: What PHP Framework Do You Consider As The Best by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jul 12, 2016
The old deprecated one is www.Nairaland.com (you can visit and troll there for now though it is deprecated).

For this new one, i have migrated some extensions from my framework into codigniter - thereby making my work faster.

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