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Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 7:05pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
olaitoro:I said I accept Nigeria is not well organised yes Now u said Biafra would make it better now am asking u how?? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by cocoduck: 7:18pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
mrvitalis:mr man read my first post about him when he was at radio biafra why did you not call to debate with him? Those that were brave to call were disgraced by his arguements. Barrister iroanya has always outlined the plans especially on electricity good a thing that it is his field of occupation, only igbo land is far bigger than SE YOU ARE NOT AN IGBO MAN 2 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by olaitoro(m): 7:20pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
mrvitalis: since Nigeria according to you is not organise, why can't we give Biafra a chance to see if we can realise our full potential as Igbo nation. I leave you with this quote "the greatest risk on earth is not taking risk"..... Bryan Tracy 2 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 7:21pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
cocoduck:I listened to nnamdi Kanu rain abuse on anyone that raised objective questions What are this plans.. . Were would the found come from... Can't u give me a link?? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 7:23pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
olaitoro:So u are saying u are not sure if Biafra would be better or worse?? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by olaitoro(m): 7:29pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
mrvitalis:Biafra has the potential of being better than worse. my brother anything that has merit most times has its own demerit. Biafra course is not an exception. 3 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by cocoduck: 7:30pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
mrvitalis:that is a bloody lie. Listen to radio biafra? No you don't, if you did, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TYPED ALL THESE RUBBISH, GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND. 3 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by amadice(m): 7:44pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
mrvitalis:..God gave u brains but you have refusevto use it..just look at these question above am so pissed...the coal in Enugu, gas reserve in ebonyi...abia...Anambra IMO is more than enough... stop exhibiting ur ignorance Igbo's are better of alone than Dis unless country call Nigeria 3 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 9:06pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
amadice:All this are in Nigeria and why don't we have 24hrs power supply Do u know how much we would need to build a coal power plant?? What will be the main revenue generating thing for Biafra.. How much do u think we can generate?? $10bn a year? ? That's will be a miracle And after we pay workers we will have - $2bn dollars remaining... so how would we build the power plants with the reserves in Biafra |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by ogmask: 10:38pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
cocoduck: Nnamdi kanu distinguished himself how? A man woke up one morning and decides to lead pple to their graves by preaching hate and telling abled body men and women that they are second class citizens in their country, that they live in a zoo and that they should abandon their multi trillion naira businesses to form a new country, that's what you call distinguished. Ddnt know it's that easy to drive pple to the edge. Let me ask you this: Is it not same kanu who hid in a hotel room with a fictitious name and a lady to cool his burning heart? Is it not same kanu with different passports and different names? Is it not same kanu that crawled into Nigeria in the dark of the night with fake names? Befor you come at me try to clear the air on my queries Biko. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by rhymaster: 12:36am On Jul 02, 2016 |
OjukwuWarBird: Last time they tried this hare-brained madness, 3 M Ibos sank permanently into the ground! You are still crying till tomorrow - if your father had sunk, would you be here for you certainly were not born then. Show an example by going to lead from the front, facing Nigeria Army next time and let us see you swim and not sink, then we will believe your garbage spewing trash talk. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 1:41am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: I feel your pains that at the mere mention of Biaf... or NK cold shiver travel down the spines of naysayers and foes. Indeed nothing good ever comes out of the rear orifices of hypocrites whose survival is dependent on lies, falsehood, noise-making, propaganda, abuse and slurs. The man who does not believe in a cause should leave those who are determined to forge ahead despite the threats and challenges. Who's NK? NK is a rare man in this generation who stood and looked your Hausa-Fulani masters eyeball to eyeball while you and your people hid under your beds. And currently, you lots are shamelessly making a living out of his struggle and at the same time senselessly shouting kill Kanu! hang him! Shoot him!...in a bid to deflect your eternal misery. https://www.nairaland.com/2799715/biafra-kanu-bigger-crowd-puller-than#40980839 NK, as a mover and shaker, is capable of commanding over 38 million people without money, even in incarceration. A research into the Search Engine Optimization algorithms of Google has indicated that the man’s name was one of the most googled names of 2015 in the whole world. There is indeed every reason for you and your cotravellers to live in perpetual fear as your only hope of survival is crumbling right before you. The serpent head is severely bruised already. There's no remedy. https://www.nairaland.com/3182158/release-nnamdi-kanu-end-problem-jerrygana Jerry Gana who attended the 17th anniversary of Igbo Youth Movement, June 2016; called on Muhammadu Buhari to release the leader of indigenous people of Biafr* who has done nothing but called for the restoration of Biafr*. Gana argued that Nnamdi Kanu has right to call for self-determination and believing that his arrest was uncalled for, a mistake that must be corrected. He was more concerned about the circumstance that led to Nnamdi Kanu's agitation than the agitation itself. However, he stated that Nnamdi Kanu is only responding to Nigerian as a failed state that worsened under Buhari. Nnamdi Kanu is the spark plug for Biafr* restoration and arresting him was stoking the flame of Biafr* that has left Nigeria bleeding since last year. He argued that had true federalism been implemented, Nnamdi Kanu’s agitation would not gain the 100% backing and support it has today. “Release Nnamdi Kanu and restructure Nigeria which is the only solution” he said while responding to questions. He was filled with smile and expressed satisfaction that despite being in prison, Nnamdi still command respect. He was one of those that clapped and smiled when Nnamdi Kanu’s award was announced... https://www.nairaland.com/3177479/nnamdi-kanus-love-biafra-wristband-at-court-june20-2016 https://www.nairaland.com/3166588/ipob-leader-nnamdi-kanu-receives-award The highlight of the event was presentation of awards to Messrs. Gana, Adebayo, detained Biafr* secessionist leader, Nnamdi Kanu, and Ms. Briggs. The event was also attended by former governors of Anambra, Chukwuemeka Ezeife and Peter Obi, and students from tertiary institutions in the South-East. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/205173-ankio-briggs-blasts-niger-delta-avengers-says-members-somalia.html https://www.nairaland.com/3162993/ankio-briggs-blasts-niger-delta#46524247 Foes and naysayers cannot determine for Igbos how to go about self-determination, for it is an inalienable right of a people. Take a listen to this song - ‘All Hail Biafr*’ perhaps the fiend behind the hypocrisy and lying nature will be banished forever: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7In5jpQiH8 https://www.nairaland.com/3158667/arrest-me-nigeria-burn-nnamdi-kanu https://www.nairaland.com/3145467/only-listen-nnamdi-kanu-niger https://www.nairaland.com/3122469/ipob-registered-over-30-countries.....kanu https://www.nairaland.com/3102199/nnamdi-kanu-releases-poem-detention 4 Likes |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by koladebrainiac(m): 1:52am On Jul 02, 2016 |
I think by now igbo should be leaving all the parts of the state that they din originate from. Especially Lagos n abuja n kano. investment in their local region should have trippled by now. This will allow them to focus on referendum n show that they are ready n determine. Property value in east shuould be double by now n lots of trades n services should be coming out strong from there. Its a common sense thing. They are not ready. If they gather the much attention they are given to this biafra thing to FG n call for the implementation of GEJ confab ,they would have gotten far by now. They dont know they need to go back to the drawing board n stop doing the old school way agitations . Its so clear that the nnamdi kanu style cannot work. Why not first conduct a referendum among the igbos in the east. Ask all igbos to come home n vote either to stay in the union or not. But they want FG to stop n spend money like britain n conduct referendum if they should stay or not. FG would be so foolish to have done so. This is the right time for them to decide. Not with Nnamdi. The only creative thing Nnamdi has done is to create a Biafra Radio. I believe biafra dream should be more than this. It should be bigger than Nnamdi Kanu. If they can include some trusted senators n Governors to give voices to biafra n give it clear n define meaning saying they dont want war n speak goodwill of nigeria n bear no hate,even FG would sympathize with them including yoruba n ND.. Government would never use his money n time to help u conduct a referendum weda they should stay or not. You guys have to go to ur villages town n city n call on igbos to come home n vote weda to stay or not. You will have a documented vote of those who want to stay or not. You can take the vote to FG n copy UN Britain America n Russia n Chinese. This will give clear focus on which way. You guys should know that even if FG or buhari that u think is ur enemy suddenly agrees n let u go, other super powers countries that wll buy ur goods n oil. N make foreign exchange would not want to recognize u as state. .now for the record,nnamdi style will never work. What if buhari opinion pull goes into his favour tomorrow? What if he starts working n b4 the end of his tenor he has done well for Nigeria there gradually u will begin to lose sympathy fron pipu Buhari or kings in the north are not your enemies, your real enemy is ur kind. Let them know the situation of things not biafra dream that may never come soon. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 1:53am On Jul 02, 2016 |
rhymaster: Here comes a confused being from the land of cow9rds whose forbears were severely beaten and bruised by the Dahomey women. The land whose men join the military with the sole aim of becoming army generals just to weep, kneel and beg subordinates for survival. Read the message from one of your Fulani masters: "...We also captured Ilorin, killed their local King and installed our Fulani Emir. We took that ancient town away from the barbarian Yoruba and their filthy pagan gods. We liberated all these places and all these people by imposing Islam on them by force. It was either the Koran or the sword, and most of them chose the Koran..." - Alhaji Aliyu Gwarzo Remember how Afonja betrayed his people and your people and sold you as perpetual slaves to the Fulanis. And till date Ilorin remains an Islamic caliphate... 1 Like |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 2:05am On Jul 02, 2016 |
@koladebrainiac, the man whose people are barely surviving cannot dictate to Igbos how to go about self-determination. It's even an aberration for a man whose people rarely stand for anything good to begin to make baseless postulations for the Igbo Nation. The mere thought of NK is making many foes and naysayers go bananas... Bays.water post: That's the sentiments we keep applying, us Yorubas will not attend to the log of wood in our eyes, we are busy acting like all is well with us claiming to be Nigeria's messiah. Oju yin ma to jaa, eyin Oponu gbogbo. Bays.water post: We always think we are the most sophisticated, that other tribes should bow to us; some think it is superiority complex but I think it's darn plain stupidity. 1 Like |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by ChimaAdeoye: 2:48am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Folks should not expect Brexit without some guerrilla action. ...and it does not have to be in the SE. Hit Abuja a few times and the Brexit option will be more appetizing. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by AAinEqGuinea: 5:07am On Jul 02, 2016 |
koladebrainiac: I agree that Nnamdi's approach has been questionable, but he's been the most effective and devout in raising global awareness of the Biafran cause. Biafra speaks loudly and accurately to what is currently wrong with the Black state of mind; our complacency with dark-age mentalities, defeatist and inferior complexes, to encourage Africans and anyone who shares its DNA to aim to be 21st century without losing themselves. I dont support Biafra to curtail anyone's faith in a recovering Nigeria and I deeply care for sub-Sahara Africans and Nigerian people but I've never expected talks of Biafra to get as vitriol as it has been, to the point of Nairaland's arbitrary censorship of those promoting the idea. I've seen on here and met many Nigerian Americans who are deeply vexed by any mention of Biafra, and it caught me by surprise. I have a high expectation of nuanced and well-articulated views from Nigerians, so to see the topic Biafra bring out their ugly is a bit disheartening. I understand that Biafra is deeply associated with Nnamdi and his slander of tribes, so people will take offense to Nnamdi/Biafra. I support Biafra because when I speak or see any remnants of colonialism it reminds me of Blacks' acceptance of inferiority. Blacks yet again willing to kill others they claim to share African solitary with if they dare attempt to leave a colonial box created for them. Businesses threatened and relationships severed, that primal sh!t. Ultimately, Biafra is an African issue but I share Nnamdi's attitude surrounding my fellow African Americans. The Zoo-West, and also our inability to keep up with the 21st century and how these animals have accepted this. I'd do anything to create my own Biafra away from the majority of AA's. The way Nnamdi describes the unapologetically barbarianism and backwardness of Africans, I see the same thing in AA's. Nnamdi gets it. If I could spend the rest of my life in the prison cell with Nnamdi I would, just to hear the Nnamdi perspective everyday. "My goodness me" Nnamdi is needed to show the world that African matters will be peacefully settled on their own, at the very least as fellow Africans attempt to escape colonialism. Nnamdi is needed to hold Nigerian leaders accountable and remind them that in democracy people can say what they want. Nnamdi is needed to NOT save the entire Black race (Afrocentrism), but to encourage us to weed out black dead weight so we can grow. I dont have to tolerate the AA disgrace here and Nigerians shouldnt have to tolerate the endemic and unmitigated problems of Nigeria. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 6:05am On Jul 02, 2016 |
99xtr69r:U are still yet to answer my question What is his plan for my igbo land |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 6:26am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: Tell your readership how you intend to survive in OduaArewanistan republic when there will be no more free flow of crude oil wealth from the East, and at the same time being faced with total islamisation. You can call it double jeopardy.
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Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99100(m): 6:35am On Jul 02, 2016 |
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Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by ProfyJay(m): 6:40am On Jul 02, 2016 |
First Biafran agitation to me still feel more than a joke as such a comparison with th brexit cannot in any way hold water! The United Kingdom already has a system that works for them, the brexit has just opened doors for the other regions like Scotland that voted vehemently for a remain would have no choice than hold a referendum to leave UK. Which other regions might follow suit and the name United Kingdom fades away and remain 'Great Britain'. No offence op but you cannot make such a comparison with the Nigerian counterpart. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99100(m): 6:44am On Jul 02, 2016 |
zendy:Well said. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by Caseless: 6:45am On Jul 02, 2016 |
quid:did u read the article at all? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by Nobody: 6:48am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Caseless:ermm which article again? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 8:00am On Jul 02, 2016 |
99xtr69r:What's my business with Yorubas?? Am igbo... N I Don't support biafra because I think we are better off in Nigeria |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by OjukwuWarBird: 8:10am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: What do you have to say about the illegal recruitment of more Northerners into the civil service since you believe in Nigeria. |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 8:11am On Jul 02, 2016 |
OjukwuWarBird:Imo has the highest number of civil service workers and that's a fact. .. go check it out |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by OjukwuWarBird: 8:14am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: I said the new recruitment and not old ones. What do you have to say about the illegal recruitment containing more Northerners |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 8:27am On Jul 02, 2016 |
OjukwuWarBird: Were is the links?? Really that is not my problem, North have had more president and yet are they better than us?? Bayelsa was in the presidency for 8 years yet no airport or seaports What we should do is to hold our leaders accountable to give us basic amenities, draw investors to ur region and develop our selfs... If all igbo investment in Nigeria were in our region we would be the most developed... Look at aba.. . Who made it undeveloped? ? North or west?? We need to change our mindset and let politicians do their politicking When imo had the highest number (Imo is my state) did anyone complain?? The national football team that u have more igbos. .. Did anyone complain?? The main question is.. . Is Biafra the solution to our problems?? 1 Like |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by OjukwuWarBird: 8:30am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: You keep dodging the question to your detriment. I can never believe in a country like Nigeria where nepotism and tribalism hold sway |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 8:34am On Jul 02, 2016 |
OjukwuWarBird:Bro there is no way u can have a recruitment and it be equal in all the regions.. . Get that.. . At some point south will have more, at some. Point North will have more... That's the truth.. . Even in ur state... When civil service recruit do all local government get same number?? |
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 11:04am On Jul 02, 2016 |
mrvitalis: It's sheer hypocrisy and for want of excuse to divert attention from the crux of the matter to inanities and begin hyping on 'hold Igbo governors accountable' as the antidote to the quest of a people seeking self-determination. It's simply diversionary and mischievous to state the least. Taking cognisance of the available allocations and federal government presence, which of the governors in other regions can be said to be doing excellently better than Igbo governors? You're trying in vain to register your bitterness that many Igbos seek a separate existence from you and your cotravellers. Igbos fare better than most tribes even with their numerous looting of the commonwealth and great federal government presence. It's an understatement to aver that the Igbo Nation has the highest concentration of middle-class citizens. With the dwindling crude oil earnings Igbo States are the least affected largely due to the fact that their economy is not crude oil dependent. Fayose of Ekiti government had to send some of its citizens to the SE to learn a skill/trade in a bid to grow the economy of Ekiti State. Strange bedfellows, with irreconcilable value systems that are at best suitable for the individual selves, are not meant to be together! The 102 years of existence attest to that verdict! The earlier you channel your energies towards consolidating OduaArewanistan republic the better for your survival. "For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%. In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don't forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective." - Maj. Gen Adebayo Adeyinka (rtd.) https://www.nairaland.com/3173893/open-letter-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu |
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