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Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 11:05am On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:
What's my business with Yorubas?? Am igbo... N I Don't support biafra because I think we are better off in Nigeria

It's wicked and evil to so use any silly excuse to support the continuation of this expired entity cum contraption which has hitherto been sustained by gross injustice, lopsidedness and continual bloodletting

If you're honest and sincere you'd earnestly clamour for a UN supervised referendum.

Igbos are not better off in Nigeria, you are. You and your cotravellers are better off in OduaArewanistan republic.
So leave Igbos alone to chart their collective destiny.
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 11:29am On Jul 02, 2016
99xtr69r:


It's sheer hypocrisy and for want of excuse to divert attention from the crux of the matter to inanities and begin hyping on 'hold Igbo governors accountable' as the antidote to the quest of a people seeking self-determination. It's simply diversionary and mischievous to state the least. 

Taking cognisance of the available allocations and federal government presence, which of the governors in other regions can be said to be doing excellently better than Igbo governors?

You're trying in vain to register your bitterness that many Igbos seek a separate existence from you and your cotravellers.

Igbos fare better than most tribes even with their numerous looting of the commonwealth and great federal government presence. It's an understatement to aver that the Igbo Nation has the highest concentration of middle-class citizens.

With the dwindling crude oil earnings Igbo States are the least affected largely due to the fact that their economy is not crude oil dependent. Fayose of Ekiti government had to send some of its citizens to the SE to learn a skill/trade in a bid to grow the economy of Ekiti State. 

Strange bedfellows, with irreconcilable value systems that are at best suitable for the individual selves, are not meant to be together! The 102 years of existence attest to that verdict!

The earlier you channel your energies towards consolidating OduaArewanistan republic the better for your survival.


"For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%. In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don't forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective."
- Maj. Gen Adebayo Adeyinka (rtd.)
https://www.nairaland.com/3173893/open-letter-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu
Jigawa state has better Road network than any state in south East.. .
They receive far less allocation than any south East state
Look at aba for example.. Upon all the tax being paid by those industries.. No standard roads, no water, a serious state will have built and independent power plant to bost production in Aba...
Every month all shops in Aba pay nothing less than 5000 were do this money go to... do we also blame the North for that??
All commercial transport vehicles pay over 1500 monthly
What will Biafra offer more than Nigeria...
My village have produced a house of assembly member, a local government chairman, prison controller general... yet no Road to my village...
We are our own problem
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 11:49am On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:

Jigawa state has better Road network than any state in south East.. .
They receive far less allocation than any south East state
Look at aba for example.. Upon all the tax being paid by those industries.. No standard roads, no water, a serious state will have built and independent power plant to bost production in Aba...
Every month all shops in Aba pay nothing less than 5000 were do this money go to... do we also blame the North for that??
All commercial transport vehicles pay over 1500 monthly
What will Biafra offer more than Nigeria...
My village have produced a house of assembly member, a local government chairman, prison controller general... yet no Road to my village...
We are our own problem

Now you're desperately clutching at any straw look-a-like to dare state, 'We are our own problem' and yet you're too pained that Igbos seek to have a separate existence to go sort themselves out.

Nigeria is a travesty. Ab initio the various ethnic groups have no business being in a country and so the contraption was meant not to be at all. And now it's expired already after 102 years of wild goose chase.

Dwelling on inanities with vain repetitions amounts to chasing shadows. It behoves on every sane group to find their escape routes and go fend for themselves now that the sun is still shining.

It's wicked and evil to so subtly use any trumped up excuse to support the continuation of this expired entity cum contraption which has hitherto been sustained by gross injustice, lopsidedness and continual bloodletting.

Many Igbos have decided to have a separate existence from confused hypocrites and parasites parading as One-Nigerianists.

So, if Igbos don't want to be with you any longer, then you have no business being with them. You need not shout it into my head for me to understand that I must share a country with you and your cotravellers. We are totally different in many ways and have nothing in common. Go sort yourselves out and let others be.

No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.

A simple referendum is all that's needed to nullify your theory of absurdity on Igbos.
A legitimate agitation by a people for a simple referendum is no way a crime.

Leave Igbos alone and face OduaArewanistan republic.

Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 12:02pm On Jul 02, 2016
99xtr69r:


Now you're desperately clutching at any straw look-a-like to dare state, 'We are our own problem' and yet you're too pained that Igbos seek to have a separate existence to go sort themselves out.

Nigeria is a travesty. Ab initio the various ethnic groups have no business being in a country and so the contraption was meant not to be at all. And now it's expired already after 102 years of wild goose chase.

Dwelling on inanities with vain repetitions amounts to chasing shadows. It behoves on every sane group to find their escape routes and go fend for themselves now that the sun is still shining.

It's wicked and evil to so subtly use any trumped up excuse to support the continuation of this expired entity cum contraption which has hitherto been sustained by gross injustice, lopsidedness and continual bloodletting.

Many Igbos have decided to have a separate existence from confused hypocrites and parasites parading as One-Nigerianists.

So, if Igbos don't want to be with you any longer, then you have no business being with them. You need not shout it into my head for me to understand that I must share a country with you and your cotravellers. We are totally different in many ways and have nothing in common. Go sort yourselves out and let others be.

No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.

A simple referendum is all that's needed to nullify your theory of absurdity on Igbos.
A legitimate agitation by a people for a simple referendum is no way a crime.

Leave Igbos alone and face OduaArewanistan republic.
I don't know If u are OK or not.. But for goodness sake... I am igbo and for the record not all igbo support biafra
Good day
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 12:37pm On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:
I don't know If u are OK or not.. But for goodness sake... I am igbo and for the record not all igbo support biafra
Good day

If you're honest and sincere you wouldn't spend a good part of your life on NL making silly assertions against the Igbo Nation for daring to seek self-determination. You'd join in the clamour for a UN supervised referendum.

And for the umpteenth time, face OduaArewanistan republic and leave Igbos alone.
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by mrvitalis(m): 12:51pm On Jul 02, 2016
99xtr69r:


If you're honest and sincere you wouldn't spend a good part of your life on NL making silly assertions against the Igbo Nation for daring to seek self-determination. You'd join in the clamour for a UN supervised referendum.

And for the umpteenth time, face OduaArewanistan republic and leave Igbos alone.
Yes if there is a referendum my people would chose to go away from Nigeria and form Biafra.. . Is that the best I don't think so
If u want me to clamor for Biafra. .. give me reason why I should support it
And don't tell me political marginalization because that's politics
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by jneutron4000: 1:33pm On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:

Jigawa state has better Road network than any state in south East.. .
They receive far less allocation than any south East state
Look at aba for example.. Upon all the tax being paid by those industries.. No standard roads, no water, a serious state will have built and independent power plant to bost production in Aba...
Every month all shops in Aba pay nothing less than 5000 were do this money go to... do we also blame the North for that??
All commercial transport vehicles pay over 1500 monthly
What will Biafra offer more than Nigeria...
My village have produced a house of assembly member, a local government chairman, prison controller general... yet no Road to my village...
We are our own problem
Very Brilliant mate. I like when I see people facing reality and saying fact. Keep it up brother because you are far better than nnamdi Kanu
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by jneutron4000: 1:40pm On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:

Yes if there is a referendum my people would chose to go away from Nigeria and form Biafra.. . Is that the best I don't think so
If u want me to clamor for Biafra. .. give me reason why I should support it
And don't tell me political marginalization because that's politics
Bro thank you so much. Me am Yoruba but I like Igbos like you that are very smart. God bless your wisdom
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by 99xtr69r: 4:58pm On Jul 02, 2016
mrvitalis:
Yes if there is a referendum my people would chose to go away from Nigeria and form Biafra.. . Is that the best I don't think so
If u want me to clamor for Biafra. .. give me reason why I should support it
And don't tell me political marginalization because that's politics

Political marginalisation or not, performing governors or not, self-determination remains an inalienable right of a people. Using diversionary tactics to attempt to deny the obvious in the polity is simply mischievous to state the least. 

You're trying to bury your head in the sand of hypocrisy to deflect the evils against the Igbo Nation.
This is no matter of delving into the subterranean to garner cheap likes from your Yoruba folks. You need to stop lying to yourself and acknowledge the real situation in the polity.

You and your Yoruba folks enjoy seeing Igbos get killed and you're still dying to have Igbos in the same country.

You and your cohorts are desperately trying all tricks at your disposal to have Igbos in the same country with you and yet you callously sanction the great injustices and evils being perpetrated in the polity. Yet you approve and hail the criminalisation and killings of peaceful IPOB protesters.

You and your cohorts hate Igbos more than Boko-Haramists and the Islamic Jihadists. You're more worried with the clamour for self-determination than the systematic ethnic cleansing and the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives in the North and South by the Jihadists and marauders.

No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.

Come to think of this: Why do you think the government and those who have criminally benefitted and still benefitting from this contraption are quick to threaten war and resort to violence as a means to quelling a genuine agitation as against opting for a simple referendum?


What does 'One Nigeria' mean?
A deceit where you are empowered to share my crude oil and wealth as 'One Nigeria' while I am considered a migrant to your State whom you're just merely accommodating and may perish in the lagoon at your command.

It is a chaotic situation where the Oba of a place would invite the representative of a people for discussion in his palace as regards a market leadership dispute only to set an ambush for him and unleash hundreds of thugs to flog and disgrace him.

It is an unjust situation where you're licensed to use foul means to destroy my business in your State with outrageous taxes. You can close my business premises at will while your elites continue to shout 'One Nigeria' to cover up the evils and injustices prevalent in the land. And you still expect me to be docile and continue to suffer silently as your hate and envy for my progress soar high.

For the past 46 years you lots championed and implemented anti-Igbo policies, targeting of Igbo economy and businesses, insitutionalised discrimination, Igbo careers in federal institutions, lopsided citing of federal infrastructures and investments, killings of Igbos in non-Igbo States and destruction of Igbo means of livelihoods.
Money is criminally collected from SE and SS people via institutions collectively built with the commonwealth and it is selectively used to give to free education to certain parasitic region.


Over the decades in the South-West, the Yorubas have systematically burnt Igbo shops as a guise to hijacking the markets from Igbos.

Shops are demolished without compensation and someone will still say the traders were given sufficient notice of vacation as if the alternative is affordable. The proposed alternative shops are oftentimes so exorbitant and out of reach by the common man.

Igbos are made to develop barren locations and thereafter chased away to an undeveloped area or a complex beyond the reach by the common man.
Many a time the destruction of shops are selectively done exempting where Yorubas sell agbo, weed and fake medicine just like in Oshodi where Electronic shops belonging to Igbos were demolished.

It takes a callous government to destroy livelihoods just to justify beautification of a city at the expense of people's economic empowerment.

Now, do you have any case for unity - fake or imaginary?

If you have there would no need fooling and playing to the gallery and shouting 'One Nigeria'. Or have you ever heard 'One Great Britain', 'One United States of America', 'One Germany'?
That shows that something is fundamentally wrong which many have been shying away from.

Is it a crime for any person/group to choose to opt out of a relationship?

Strange bedfellows, with irreconcilable value systems that are at best suitable for the individual selves, are not meant to be together! The 102 years of existence attest to that verdict!

Remember that soon after the civil war you lots connived and robbed Easterners of their hard earned money in banks and gave £20 to only those who could prove they had bank accounts.

You lots proceeded to use the stolen funds to buy up the numerous companies established by the colonial masters, looting the companies and rendering them bankrupt. And that was the beginning of the collapse of the Nigerian economy. Till date the economy is yet to recover.

Instead of developing the Eastern region after the war subsequent evil governments diverted Gowon’s 3Rs to your regions for rapid development while neglecting and under-developing the Eastern region.
Right now the government has earmarked $133 million to reconstruct the Boko-Haram ravaged NE, and for 46 years nothing was done to reconstruct the East after the devastation by the federal government.

However, the gross injustice and wickedness against the Igbo Nation have not deterred the Igbos from doing excellently and even competing on the world stage.


You and your cotravellers should cease dictating for other people how to live their lives.

A legitimate agitation by a people for a simple referendum is no way a crime.

Freedom seekers seek freedom until it's achieved. They don't allow others define them to suit their interest and narratives, or permit the oppressors and abusers of human rights to teach them, the oppressed what human rights are.

https://www.nairaland.com/2967153/explosive-secret-1914-amalgamation-document


https://www.nairaland.com/2768847/ethnic-cleansing-nigeria-customs

https://www.nairaland.com/2886318/senate-probes-lopsidedness-police-promotions


https://www.nairaland.com/2938194/10-unarmed-peaceful-pro-biafra-shot

National High School, Aba Massacre - 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRCBZXRoVBo

https://www.nairaland.com/2929377/evidence-nigeria-army-brutality-unarmed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO7iibKi7Kw

https://www.nairaland.com/2930290/kill-us-end-biafra-come

https://www.nairaland.com/2924060/biafra-6-ipob-members-shot

https://www.nairaland.com/2924850/graphic-photos-pro-biafra-protesters-shot

https://www.nairaland.com/2874300/graphic-photo-one-killed-during

https://www.nairaland.com/2874156/biafra-how-much-more-blood

https://www.nairaland.com/2873830/breaking-news-heavy-gunfire-happening

https://www.nairaland.com/2874201/obj-offered-us-huge-sum

https://www.nairaland.com/2875132/biafra-8-ipob-members-killed

https://www.nairaland.com/2877074/pro-biafra-killings-british-mp-angela

Aba Jan 15: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwX9dkOIEJ8

https://www.nairaland.com/2727742/fearless-biafrans-protest-despite-being
This is a one on one confrontation between Soldiers and Pro Biafran protesters, The army tried to stop them and they resisted and the next thing was serious gunshots into the air from the soldiers, Some of them initially refused to run and I could hear a man shouting ''Kill me''...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1DRG7j3FG0

https://www.nairaland.com/2775185/4-unarmed-ipob-confirmed-dead

https://www.nairaland.com/2776547/blood-sister-killed-today-biafra
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by tck2000(m): 11:53am On Jan 18, 2020
mrvitalis:

And u list the plan nnamdi Kanu has please??
How will Biafra get electricity (because the capacity in the igbo land is not upto 500mw)
How will we import. ..
Were will even be the capital
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by kettykings: 12:31pm On Jan 18, 2020
mrvitalis:

And u list the plan nnamdi Kanu has please??
How will Biafra get electricity (because the capacity in the igbo land is not upto 500mw)
How will we import. ..
Were will even be the capital

Biafra will get electricity from the numerous gas deposits in Anambra basin and ukwa basin abia.

Biafra will align with neighboring countries to clear goods and do a transshipment to trawlers that would use the opobo section of the Atlantic to move goods to Azumini and by rail to Aba and other parts of biafra.

The capital will not be an issue because biafra will run the truest form of federalism where each domain will exist on its own terms can decide to have its currency and can decide to exit biafra at any time and can decide to have its own judiciary and constitutional.

Biafra will be fine tuned to be an African state all Africans look upto


Please this is a fiction story about what Igbos think based on online information
Re: A Plan Without A Plan (can Biafra Learn From The Brexit?) by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jan 18, 2020
mrvitalis:

And u list the plan nnamdi Kanu has please??
How will Biafra get electricity (because the capacity in the igbo land is not upto 500mw)
How will we import. ..
Were will even be the capital
Never give audience to anyone that insult you online. You should know from all indications that such individual is still under is parents. No point exchanging words with a secondary school student.

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