analice107:

Thank you for the correction, but the fact doesn't change. He is dumb just like Muhammed of Arabia, like you.
Kabiru you are still writing Waec, but you ran up to defend a child who can't even reason.
Gerrarahia.

RABIUSHILE04:


You're a joke ANA_LIES, may allaah help you see the light in shaaa allaah! U no even sabi abuse sef, go learn from Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl and their likes! Them dey 'naar'

RABIUSHILE04:


You're a joke ANA_LIES, may allaah help you see the light in shaaa allaah! U no even sabi abuse sef, go learn from Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl and their likes! Them dey 'naar'

analice107:

Lol. go to bed kid.

RABIUSHILE04:


Analice..but I pray Allaah brings you to Islaam, Okay?? You will be more peaceful, modest and bashful! Try Islaam today my good fellow!

RABIUSHILE04:


You're a joke ANA_LIES, may allaah help you see the light in shaaa allaah! U no even sabi abuse sef, go learn from Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl and their likes! Them dey 'naar'

Etesam:
@analice107 you ought to be ashamed of yourself. This thread was fine until you dropped by, and someone gave you a mat in exchange for pop corn.
Now you see how we will never get to the bottom of this exchanges of opinion.
Motion for adjournment.

lexiconkabir:


The name is KABIR, the full name is ABDULKABIR, which means, servant of the Great one, you saying Kabiru is like saying VOLUME pronouncing the "eh sound" at the end, now how funny does that sound? Yeah thats same way the Arabs will laugh you so wickedly if you say Kabiru.

plappville:


The Arabs have no mouth to laugh at anyone. They are terrorists, for this They are laughed at like this. ...


Only u premitive black African see them as superior. NO wonder they hate you with passion. They hate you Even when you embrace thier religion . CAnt you see? Travel and see things.

analice107:

Oh. Wow. Lolzzzz. Okay Mr Matured guy. You are so Matured yet worships a god Who quotes Angels. Allah's words are suppose to be law, but now, he is the one quoting his own angels. Yes, Mr Matured man. Give attention to what Obadiah is posting to you becos, it's obvious Allah was referring to a deity higher than him, very soon, we shall know the the truth. Monotheist Allah, keeps referring to himself as "We", and Mr mature man compares it to 'Royal We'. I have never head the Queen of England refer to herself as "We". Mr mature man, am watching you in 3D

lexiconkabir:


Dear Nairalanders,

On behalf of the Yabaleft Mental Institution, we are very sorry for any inconveniences or damages caused by our patient plappville. We have no idea how she escaped from her cell but please be rest assured that we will not rest nor sleep until we find her & cage her once again.

Signed
Management.

analice107:

Have you noticed how Kabiru is applying derail tactics to avoid Obadiah77? He is making himself relevant to himself by believing he is a person. Imagine a Muslim telling a christian that she is a small fry to him. A Muslim oo. A matured Moon god worshipper.
A matured man who worships a god Who boasts of being the greatest of deceivers. He is so matured yet he can't see, that Satan is the world deceiver.
Just see what the Bible says here. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old 'serpent', called the" "Devil", and "Satan" , which "deceiveth" the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation:12:9. Just imagine.

Okay nah, meanwhile, take pop corn.

Contact17:


Dear Amberon, at what age did your great grand parents or even grand parents get married? Can you swear that they got married at the age of 18? Wasn't it normal and CULTURALLY acceptable for people to marry young then? Just as it was completely normal 1400 years ago for Arab women to marry young. You should also note that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) grew up in a hot country, the Arabian Peninsula. Usually in hot countries adolescence comes early and people marry early. This is how the people of Arabia were until recently. Moreover, women vary greatly in their development and their physical readiness for marriage.

Just recently (yes in 2016) Virginia in the US modified the law allowing children to marry at 12. How come no one was screaming pedophile all these years? How come is wasn't a crime when a 21 year old married a 12 year old?

Lastly, they are variety of other reasons as to why he married her specifically. If you are interested do let me know

I won't even bother with the other hadith you mentioned because I am certain no authentic hadith says such.

@ lexiconkabir please stop replying! Ignore unreasonable mentions and don't allow the thread to derail.

RABIUSHILE04:


Analice..but I pray Allaah brings you to Islaam, Okay?? You will be more peaceful, modest and bashful! Try Islaam today my good fellow!

RABIUSHILE04:


Quote for us too two things, 1. The word 'bible' in the bible.
2. Jesus saying, I'm God worship me!!!!!!

analice107:

In that case, post here a verse quoting Gabriel saying to Muhammed, " I am Angel Gabriel sent by Allah with a message for you". like he did in the Bible.
And the angel answering said unto him, I am GABRIEL, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
Luke:1:19

RABIUSHILE04:


Analice..but I pray Allaah brings you to Islaam, Okay?? You will be more peaceful, modest and bashful! Try Islaam

plappville:


She was only 13 when Islam tagged her a suicide bomber. WHy u calling analice107 to islam na?

Obadiah77:


Okay then: I will start with some obvious contradictions before asking my questions.


There or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur'an?

"Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things," (2:256).

And Allah later went on to say:

"And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,--that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith," (9:3)

And then I saw you on one thread that made fp the other day where you were vigorously campaigning for death for apostasy, does this and the 2nd verse above contradict the first verse above?

Which are we to believe?

lexiconkabir:


go and preach to the different atheist that came to nairaland as strong Christians but are no more christians......they need your help not us, even the OP is one of them, you guys arent even ashamed at all.

plappville:


This is unreasonable! Justifying Muhammed marriage with Aisha when she was 6. She was a baby still playing with her dolls when the old man married her. Very historical indeed.

true2god:
Don't mind the idiot. Anyone that justifies a man of 54 sleeping with a 9-yr old girl, just as Mohammed did to little Aisha, is a potential psychiatric patient.

Yes, in the olden days our mothers marry early, like @ the ages of 16, 17 or 18. There is no any documented or oral evidence that shows that our past women/mother got married at 9, none. Our ancestors have a great sense of responsibility and mortality towards women hence cannot marry them off when they are 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 or 11. They allow women to mature both emotionally and physically so as to be able to cope with the stress of family-hood.

The Arabs/Mohammed only came to destroy African culture with respect to the sanctity of marriage between two consenting adults. A man of 51 and a little Aisha of 6 can never be a relationship of 2 consenting adults. Any African man defending Mohammed's marriage to Aisha is a fooll.

Auki:
Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/, /ˈɑːlə/ or /əlˈlɑː/;Arabic: الله‎ Allāh,

It is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh,al=the, ilah=God, literally "the God"

referring to the God in Abrahamic religions. The word has cognates in other Semitic. It is now mainly used by Muslims to refer to God in Islam, but has been also used by Arab Christians since pre-Islamic times. It is also often, albeit not exclusively, used by Bábists, Bahá'ís, Indonesian and Maltese Christians, and Mizrahi Jews.

Allah in Judaism:

As Hebrew and Arabic are closely related Semitic languages, it is commonly accepted that Allah (root, ilāh) and the Biblical Elohim
wikipedia.org
are cognate derivations of same origin, as is Eloah, a Hebrew word which is used (e.g. in the Book of Job) to mean '(the) God' and also 'god or gods' as is the case of Elohim. Elohim and Eloah ultimately derive from the root El, 'strong', possibly genericized from "El", the Northwest Semitic word meaning "god" or "deity", as in the Ugaritic ’lhm (consonants only), meaning "children of El" (the ancient Near Eastern creator god in pre-Abrahamic tradition).

In Jewish scripture Elohim is used as a descriptive title for the God of the scriptures.

Allah in Christianity:

So do we know what was the language of Jesus?? Not only Jesus but his total public ministry and his companions spoke Aramaic.

The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah". (Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for "God".) Arab Christians, for example, use the terms Allāh al-ab (الله الأب) for God the Father, Allāh al-ibn (الله الابن) for God the Son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (الله الروح القدس) for God the Holy Spirit. (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God.) Arab Christians have used two forms of invocations that were affixed to the beginning of their written works. They adopted the Muslim bismillāh, and also created their own Trinitized bismillāh as early as the 8th century. The Muslim bismillāh reads: "In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful." The Trinitized bismillāh reads: "In the name of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, One God." The Syriac, Latin and Greek invocations do not have the words "One God" at the end.
According to Marshall Hodgson, it seems that in the pre-Islamic times, some Arab Christians made pilgrimage to the Kaaba, a pagan temple at that time, honoring Allah there as God the Creator. Some archaeological excavation quests have led to the discovery of ancient pre-Islamic inscriptions and tombs made by Arabic-speaking Christians in the ruins of a church at Umm el-Jimal in Northern Jordan, which contained references to Allah as the proper name of God, and some of the graves contained names such as "Abd Allah" which means "the servant/slave of Allah". The name Allah can be found countless times in the reports and the lists of names of Christian martyrs in South Arabia, as reported by antique Syriac documents of the names of those martyrs from the era of the Himyarite and Aksumite kingdoms.

A Christian leader named Abd Allah ibn Abu Bakr ibn Muhammad was martyred in Najran in 523, as he had worn a ring that said "Allah is my lord". In an inscription of Christian martyrion dated back to 512, references to Allah can be found in both Arabic and Aramaic, which called him "Allah" and "Alaha", and the inscription starts with the statement "By the Help of Allah". In pre-Islamic Gospels, the name used for God was "Allah", as evidenced by some discovered Arabic versions of the New Testament written by Arab Christians during the pre-Islamic era in Northern and Southern Arabia. Pre-Islamic Arab Christians have been reported to have raised the battle cry "Ya La Ibad Allah" (O slaves of Allah) to invoke each other into battle. "Allah" was also mentioned in pre-Islamic Christian poems by some Ghassanid and Tanukhid poets in Syria and Northern Arabia.

Sources used: Wikipedia

So yes, Allah was known way way before Muhammad(pbuh) was born. Actually Allah Is Allah, the eternal and everlasting.

true2god:
While I might agree with you that the generic name for God in Arabic is allaahh, that does not mean that the allahh arab-christians called is the same for the allahh arab-muslims call. They are 2 different allahh but have the same name for their separate adherants.

The Yorubas called their ancestral God 'eledumare' long before Christianity was introduced to them. However after the introduction of Christian beliefs among the Yoruba, most also chosed to call the Christian God eledumare. Allahh was a pre-islamic deity worshipped by Mohammed's ancestors. Mohammed's father was a pagan named abdullah ibn abdulmutalib. Abdullah means 'slave of allahh' which shows that Mohammed didn't preach a new allahh different from his father's pagan religion, he only upgraded it to be of equal status to the Jewish monotheism by abolishing the meccan multi-religious and multi-cutural settings and gave his father's pagan religion supremacy over all other religions in his domain. Hubal was another deity worshipped in the pre-islamic Arabia, but allahh got an eminence status among the Arabs because most Arabs are Muslims who have adopted allahh as their god.

analice107:

He wants me to become a Muslim so that i can help them bomb my fathers house.
Camel piss don make am mad.