SirAlfred:
At the government establishment BSc 3rd class is superior to HND. You can't head a department or ministry with HND, but with BSc 3rd class you can head departments or ministries. It's there in the public service gazette.

ogawisdom:


They seem close on paper ie if d HND is distinction n d degree third class or pass though both r useless but if employed d third class degree man even if he has pass is rated higher.

HND is mainly for ppl who could not pass WAEC and JAMB Ndi itiboribo, nobody ever goes to polytechnic willingly na condition.

U dnt compare a diploma to a degree, degree employees r considered senior staff frm day one but HND junior staff. Most of D lecturers of HND students r first degree holders

Pimiento:
You are busy comparing certificates, what about your potentials? Let me tell you my story.
While I was about rounding up my NYSC, I attended an interview. The job requires job experience which I don't have. And am holding a HND in Purchasing and Supply. We were given a math and IQ test (with the so called Bsc. holders), and I scored highest in both. After the Oral interview, I was asked to assume office immediately after my POP as a Graduate Trainee. Five months later, I was promoted as a Sales Executive, today am in charge of training newly recruited staff in the northern zone(even the Msc. holders). And am currently under training for the position of Regional Sales Manager. Meaning not just Bsc holders, even the Msc holders will be reporting to me. All this happened in less than a year.

Someone said those of us in the Polytechnic are there cos we don't pass waec/jamb, we are there by condition. Yes to some extent you are right it's condition, but it does not necessarily mean it's waec/jamb. "If I show u my waec result, e go shock u"

Fynestboi:
Most probably, contrary to your belief, this is no fight between HND and Degree, we are just here to check and balance. Having an HND and having a Third Class BSC Degree, which one is better concerning regards for each in the employment market.

First of all, Definition of Terms for some of us who might not be so sure of what HND and Third Class BSC are :

HND Holder is one who has completed a course program at a Polytechnic in Nigeria. The certificate awarded upon completion of the program is the Higher National Diploma (HND).

BSc Holder is one who has completed an undergraduate program at a University in Nigeria. The degree awarded upon completion of the program is a Bachelor Degree (BSc).

Now, my own opinion :
Since time past the HND has always being considered inferior to the BSc. This, at least, was the idea inculcated in us by the colonial masters and this mentality is what many of us still hold onto today, which is not supposed to be.

It is also important that we know that the university is an internationally recognized higher institution of learning all around the world. As such, a third class BSc holder may sometimes have the opportunity of furthering their studies in a way that the HND holder cannot because a BSc is recognized everywhere while same cannot be said for the HND. Besides, we look down on the HND ourselves in Nigeria, why then would international bodies regard it any more than we do.

Many employers today may not even include HND as one of the qualifications required for job vacancy positions. In light of this, HND holders may sometimes get automatically disqualified before even getting a chance at interview.

Another key point is, an HND holder may secure a good job real quick compared to a third class BSc holder, but the effect of this is that in the long run, a HND holder who fails to upgrade his certificate to a BSc may find himself bowing to that third class BSc holder (who has now added to his qualifications) whom he had left behind all those years ago.

Well, not to sound bias :

Over the years, Polytechnic graduates have proven themselves to be in no way inferior to their counterparts in the university.

Today, a polytechnic student can stand shoulder to shoulder with an undergraduate in the university and even surpass him/her. Besides, Polytechnics have being known to conduct more research and practical works than the university. This prepares the students adequately for what is needed to face the outside world.

In conclusion, it would be wrong of me to declare a third class degree as better than the HND.

So here we are, what's your view.

Graduating with an HND or a Third Class BSC Degree - Which is better?


SOURCE : http://eduregard.com/hnd-holder-vs-third-class-degree-bsc-holder/

Fynestboi:
Most probably, contrary to your belief, this is no fight between HND and Degree, we are just here to check and balance. Having an HND and having a Third Class BSC Degree, which one is better concerning regards for each in the employment market.

First of all, Definition of Terms for some of us who might not be so sure of what HND and Third Class BSC are :

HND Holder is one who has completed a course program at a Polytechnic in Nigeria. The certificate awarded upon completion of the program is the Higher National Diploma (HND).

BSc Holder is one who has completed an undergraduate program at a University in Nigeria. The degree awarded upon completion of the program is a Bachelor Degree (BSc).

Now, my own opinion :
Since time past the HND has always being considered inferior to the BSc. This, at least, was the idea inculcated in us by the colonial masters and this mentality is what many of us still hold onto today, which is not supposed to be.

It is also important that we know that the university is an internationally recognized higher institution of learning all around the world. As such, a third class BSc holder may sometimes have the opportunity of furthering their studies in a way that the HND holder cannot because a BSc is recognized everywhere while same cannot be said for the HND. Besides, we look down on the HND ourselves in Nigeria, why then would international bodies regard it any more than we do.

Many employers today may not even include HND as one of the qualifications required for job vacancy positions. In light of this, HND holders may sometimes get automatically disqualified before even getting a chance at interview.

Another key point is, an HND holder may secure a good job real quick compared to a third class BSc holder, but the effect of this is that in the long run, a HND holder who fails to upgrade his certificate to a BSc may find himself bowing to that third class BSc holder (who has now added to his qualifications) whom he had left behind all those years ago.

Well, not to sound bias :

Over the years, Polytechnic graduates have proven themselves to be in no way inferior to their counterparts in the university.

Today, a polytechnic student can stand shoulder to shoulder with an undergraduate in the university and even surpass him/her. Besides, Polytechnics have being known to conduct more research and practical works than the university. This prepares the students adequately for what is needed to face the outside world.

In conclusion, it would be wrong of me to declare a third class degree as better than the HND.

So here we are, what's your view.

Graduating with an HND or a Third Class BSC Degree - Which is better?


SOURCE : http://eduregard.com/hnd-holder-vs-third-class-degree-bsc-holder/

sammyscholar:
well, I blame polytechnic students for this. Bring a first class student in any repute University in Nigeria and let's engage ourselves. Then, we can know which is better. Forget why poly was established in the first instance and Let us face the present day reality.

emperorgoke:
Typing from experience, in Engineering sphere, Poly graduates are far far ahead nd better than B.tech, in fact, ND2 students engineering are better than 400l University students. While in social sciences and management, University is the best, that is when we can compare 3rd class B. Sc with HND.

kayol2012:
I try as much as possible to stay off topics like this " comparing HND and BSC". I have HND in Accountancy and also doubles as Chartered Accountant with years of experience. Im confident no Bsc graduate can intimidate me in my profession because i have consistently proven and assiduously tried to develop myself both mentally and in all spheres. I see HND as a means to an end and does not define my target, ambition and vision. I have on several occasion headed department littered with Bsc and at times 2nd degree. I am the pioneer staff of the company i work with in Nigeria with a company i work with and this happened after having interviewed countless BSc graduates. You can not outgrow your mentality. Succinctly put, If a HND holder strongly limits and believe he/she is inferior to BSc then so be it. Do not generalize the issue of 4 or 5 credits as i have A, b's and never failed a subject in waec. Self believe, continuous development and HND/Bsc would not define me.

hotwax:

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Let me explain how it works. I am not the employer of Labor.

There is HR department...

And there is my department. I must ensure whoever HR department is bringing possesses technical abilities required to deliver projects.

Cooked up story or not. Ask any IT employer around you. Same is the story.

HND/BSC does not count when it comes to Engineering and Technology.

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timawoku:
3rd class is still far better especially if na correct university you go.(Like OAU, UNILORIN) HND bawo?

vickylala239:


I have HND and also a chartered accountant. Worked with 3 multinationals and 3 indigenous companies in the space of 6 years. You guys should stop deluding yourselves about this BSC. Read this and change your mindset about BSC http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/206737-nigerian-universities-fail-make-list-worlds-top-1000.html. When you say HND is cheaper to recruit, i laugh is foreign language. Are you speaking from your point of view or generalizing? My brother that was a fallacious and misleading statement. I am the highest earner in my company with BSC and even second degree in UK Hull University to be precise. Be cautious when you are making a general statement and argue like a graduate. Always use a caveat and put you stand to be corrected. Im cautious when i debate issues with your ilk.











Your view sound bias and you know that....

One can easily tell that you hold HND...

Well Why then do you Ppl Dnt advertise for HND only...

Why then do top companies root for uni...

You are of a small firm,but bigger firm root for uni,it means you are yet to see What does bigger firms are seeing.... What this means is that a bigger firm cnt require your services only the small as you are not up to their standard...

Hnd is sometime cheaper to recruit as they do not attract Mega pay,unlike Bsc who could leave for a bigger shot later...

I put it to you that if you were holding uni degree,u probable culd be wrking in a bigger firm to day...you services is required in a smaller firm Cuz they cn afford you....

Only that an average Nigerian will deny all this as u abt to do so...

cindybaby22:

not in govt establishments.
during my nysc, the vp couldn't attain the position of a principal because he had hnd.