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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:34pm On Feb 02, 2017
jakeporeshenko:

Okay thanks for the write up so confirm one last thing, the LCA MK1A will be the most advanced variant ?

no, LCA MK2 will be the most advanced variant

LCA MK2 will have the more powerful General Electric F414-GE-INS6 engine with 98 kN of thrust and refined aerodynamics.

LCA MK2 will have a length of 14.2 metre (1 metre more than that of the LCA MK1, for incorporating a stretched nose section and a modified fuselage section aft of the cockpit for housing an expanded complement of mission avionics LRUs), height of 4.6 metre (as opposed to 4.4 metres of the LCA MK1, to accommodate an enlarged vertical tail-section) and a wingspan of 8.2 metres, same as that of the LCA MK1, however with an increased wing area.

External stores capacity will be boosted to 5,000 kg (as opposed to 4,000 kg for the LCA MK1), while the twin internal air-intake ducts will be minimally enlarged to cater to the increased airflow requirements of the 98 kN thrust F414-GE-INS6.

The Mk2 will also see the incorporation of a new electronic warfare suite which is being jointly developed with Israel. This is to have a new glass cockpit with larger displays. The LCA MK2 will have some 25-30 percent commonality in parts with the LCA MK1 and these parts are already in production.

LCA MK2 will incorporate an IRST, AESA radar, IFR , sensor fusion etc etc

personally i can say this that some of RAFALE sub-systems/technologies will get into LCA MK2 under the MII scheme.

also lot of things mentioned above might change as the development progresses , like the local kaveri engine might get in.

plus there r rumors of a single engined 5 generation light stealth aircraft , for now let it remain as rumors grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by ITCareer: 2:49am On Feb 03, 2017
Hello Gadget Lovers,

Is anyone interested in purchasing a Raytheon PALM IR 250 Thermal Camera? Can be used for hunting, ghost investigation or surveillance. Only N550k. Purchased in the U.S military liquidation auction

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by overhypedsteve(m): 10:45am On Feb 03, 2017
ITCareer:
Hello Gadget Lovers,

Is anyone interested in purchasing a Raytheon PALM IR 250 Thermal Camera? Can be used for hunting, ghost investigation or surveillance. Only N550k. Purchased in the U.S military liquidation auction
why will i now want to go and be hunting Ghost? nice Gadget though. do you have wireless xbox pc pads for sale?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:30am On Feb 03, 2017
overhypedsteve:
why will i now want to go and be hunting Ghost? nice Gadget though. do you have wireless xbox pc pads for sale?

say what if the ghosts come hunting for u grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 12:21pm On Feb 03, 2017
Let me just leave this here! I notice e wars are ever more frequent and that's how the original thread went totally FUBAR!


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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 12:38pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:
@henry240 , kikuyu1 , jakeporeshenko , MikeCZA , bidexiii , giles14 , tdayof , Odunayaw , jln115 and others

just wanted to know how many of u believe in the existence of tectonic weapons and terraforming weapons ? cool

The Tesla shield is neither a tectonic nor terraforming weapon. Its in operational use. The Russians had it by the early 80s. Basically an EM forcefield straight out of Star Trek.
You can see that any weapons system today must move under the protection of a Tesla Dome Shield. In other words, the Dome must always march overhead and around the naval ships, the aircraft, and the armies moving toward their destination. As you can imagine from this artist's recreation, a Dome Shield can be made to continuously move with the aircraft, at the speed of the aircraft, so it will always surround the plane. This recreation was seen by pilots of another commercial aircraft and reported to the Ashai Evening News, Tokyo, 6/22/1982. Notice how old this technology is to the Russians!


http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2155.cfm

Individual soldiers,ships and planes all platforms can have a Tesla shield. This means conventional kinetic kills by means of projectiles are obsolete. Btw,nemesis2u what do you know about the ancient vimanas as told in the 7000 year old Ramayana epic? They were as real as todays Tejas. Apparently some were for individual local and continental flying and others were for near and deep space journeys. Do you know about their mercury engines?

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:07pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:


no, LCA MK2 will be the most advanced variant

LCA MK2 will have the more powerful General Electric F414-GE-INS6 engine with 98 kN of thrust and refined aerodynamics.

LCA MK2 will have a length of 14.2 metre (1 metre more than that of the LCA MK1, for incorporating a stretched nose section and a modified fuselage section aft of the cockpit for housing an expanded complement of mission avionics LRUs), height of 4.6 metre (as opposed to 4.4 metres of the LCA MK1, to accommodate an enlarged vertical tail-section) and a wingspan of 8.2 metres, same as that of the LCA MK1, however with an increased wing area.

External stores capacity will be boosted to 5,000 kg (as opposed to 4,000 kg for the LCA MK1), while the twin internal air-intake ducts will be minimally enlarged to cater to the increased airflow requirements of the 98 kN thrust F414-GE-INS6.

The Mk2 will also see the incorporation of a new electronic warfare suite which is being jointly developed with Israel. This is to have a new glass cockpit with larger displays. The LCA MK2 will have some 25-30 percent commonality in parts with the LCA MK1 and these parts are already in production.

LCA MK2 will incorporate an IRST, AESA radar, IFR , sensor fusion etc etc

personally i can say this that some of RAFALE sub-systems/technologies will get into LCA MK2 under the MII scheme.

also lot of things mentioned above might change as the development progresses , like the local kaveri engine might get in.

plus there r rumors of a single engined 5 generation light stealth aircraft , for now let it remain as rumors grin


Okay mate only one thing missing, has HAL said anything hinting to conformal girl tanks? You know to increase range and all of that.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:28pm On Feb 03, 2017
jakeporeshenko:


Okay mate only one thing missing, has HAL said anything hinting to conformal girl tanks? You know to increase range and all of that.

no, there is no talk of conformal fuel tanks on LCA. plus i havent seen conformal fuel tanks on delta winged aircrafts till now.

it should interest u though that utilizing conformal fuel tanks on a combat aircraft leads to considerable aerodynamic penalty.

with the advent of inflight refuelling, conformal tanks requirement is somewhat reduced. also the role of the aircraft is crucial to decide upon the requirement of conformable fuel tanks.

also installing conformal fuel tanks on an RSS (relaxed static stabilty) ie intentionally unstable designed aircraft will require extensive testing and validation plus the digital FBW control laws have to be tweaked considerably. this will lead to greater development time and greater costs.

very few aircrafts have conformal fuel tanks , u will notice that those aircrafts which have been produced in great numbers will end up getting conformal fuel tanks eg. F16

as far as i am concerned it is mostly a marketing gimmick , to make the aircraft versions more attractive for buyers after running out of all available upgrades. grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by overhypedsteve(m): 2:30pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:


say what if the ghosts come hunting for u grin
ever heard about the word "RUN"?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:34pm On Feb 03, 2017
overhypedsteve:
ever heard about the word "RUN"?

grin grin grin grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by overhypedsteve(m): 2:39pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


The Tesla shield is neither a tectonic nor terraforming weapon. Its in operational use. The Russians had it by the early 80s. Basically an EM forcefield straight out of Star Trek.



http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2155.cfm

Individual soldiers,ships and planes all platforms can have a Tesla shield. This means conventional kinetic kills by means of projectiles are obsolete. Btw,nemesis2u what do you know about the ancient vimanas as told in the 7000 year old Ramayana epic? They were as real as todays Tejas. Apparently some were for individual local and continental flying and others were for near and deep space journeys. Do you know about their mercury engines?
are you talking about the Mercury Engines used by the Ancient Urudimanti emperor in the Ancient Urudi Epics? Legend have it that it was laid inside the Gazolima Pyramid which is deep somewhere in the atlantic ocean not too far from the Coast of Kurumbaya which is a dark ancient word for Illusions. grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:28pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


The Tesla shield is neither a tectonic nor terraforming weapon. Its in operational use. The Russians had it by the early 80s. Basically an EM forcefield straight out of Star Trek.


Individual soldiers,ships and planes all platforms can have a Tesla shield. This means conventional kinetic kills by means of projectiles are obsolete. Btw,nemesis2u what do you know about the ancient vimanas as told in the 7000 year old Ramayana epic? They were as real as todays Tejas. Apparently some were for individual local and continental flying and others were for near and deep space journeys. Do you know about their mercury engines?

one important thing to understand is that exotic technology involving force fields etc require enormous amounts of energy , these large amount of energy is not available readily on field , thus restricting operational usage .

exotic weapons r mostly in laboratories, where they r being refined further pending breakthrough of a source of high energy power source with manageable weight and requirements.

@kikuyu1

do u know the first mention of TIME TRAVEL is credited to MAHABHARATA which is an very ancient indian epic also the Mahabharata is the longest known epic poem and has been described as "the longest poem ever written", dating back to 8th and 9th centuries BCE.

Bhagavatam 9.3.29-9.3.32 (verse)

Tells us how one person (king Kakudmi) went to the highest planetary system and stayed there for 20 minutes .When he returned to earth 116,640,000 years had passed by on earth.He neither found his friends, relatives or sons,grandsons.

He could not even find a record of his family tree as he had returned to earth in future time.

theory of Relativity says that if one were to move away from the Earth at relativistic velocities and return, more time would have passed on Earth than for the traveler, so in this sense it is accepted that relativity allows "travel into the future." that is via time dilation.

now what would u call it , coincidence or figment of imagination.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


The Tesla shield is neither a tectonic nor terraforming weapon. Its in operational use. The Russians had it by the early 80s. Basically an EM forcefield straight out of Star Trek.



http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2155.cfm

Individual soldiers,ships and planes all platforms can have a Tesla shield. This means conventional kinetic kills by means of projectiles are obsolete. Btw,nemesis2u what do you know about the ancient vimanas as told in the 7000 year old Ramayana epic? They were as real as todays Tejas. Apparently some were for individual local and continental flying and others were for near and deep space journeys. Do you know about their mercury engines?

many people will laugh at talk of exotic technolgies and ancient technologies like vimanas , but they dont realize there is never a smoke with out a fire.

also they r not aware of the billion of dollars and roubles spent by US and USSR to research them.

a designated team was going through restricted documents which were previously marked top secret but later all sensitive information was redacted and the documents was marked as restricted only (ie security clearance was brought down).

one such document was related to an executive order by the erstwhile PM of india ie indra gandhi , and they could make out was the presence of the word anti gravity and some sanskrit words .

and lo behold some years earlier the PM indra gandhi out of the blue had mentioned anti gravity propulsion during an interview to some journalist in kolkata during her election campaign and said that she was of the view that this technology would make india powerful.

even CIA used to mention about UFO type objects in the Himalayas bordering northern India. recent declassified CIA documents r testimony to this fact.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:54pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:



i have a question for u

what is the most powerful weapon in the possession of man ? grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 4:04pm On Feb 03, 2017
type-84 landmine spotted in Libya
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 4:11pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:
first time IA made a video on its martyrs,
ashok chakra winner (posthumous) Hangpan Dada the martial boy from arunachal pradesh and pride of Assam regiment.

gives an good overview of the tough conditions and Indian CT OPS, this particular fight was against Covert Action Division (SSG) of the enemy comprising of mujahedin and SSG soldiers.

watch the video to understand the tough conditions and scale of difficulties encountered


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOEKauo6zxA

Thanks for the video! What is Dada's ethnic group? Which is this N Asian looking Arunachal Pradesh people?
My lurking on defence.pk has convinced me Pakis are endlessly spoiling for a fight with you guys despite 3 losing wars and being outnumbered 7 to 1. They honestly dream of replicating the mass slaughter of their Mughal forefathers. You do know they killed tens of millions of Hindus?
They even named their missiles after these Mughal mass murderers!?

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:45pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


Thanks for the video! What is Dada's ethnic group? Which is this N Asian looking Arunachal Pradesh people?

bro lets not discuss this topic , others will/might find it objectionable and importantly nothing meaningful will come out it.

lets talk on far interesting things which will interest both of us and others too. wink

hundreds of civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries have come and gone ,
millions have died fighting for these very civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries only to have these very civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries conquered , destroyed , assimilated and withered away before their very eyes and over a period of time .

wasting away our life for the sake of glory and ideology based on religious / ethnic / racial reasons is tomfoolery

why do we fight for our country ?
we fight to protect our family our friends , our independence and our way of life
only fools/marauders/looters/religious bigots fight for reasons other than the reasons i mentioned just above.

those who do so r just wasting their lives by getting themselves played by others ie men in power, which they also realize but only on their death bed.

a human being comes to this world empty handed and goes out empty handed , he takes nothings along with him except his deeds and acquired knowledge (in the form of memories)

i have seen terrorists die inches away from me , it is interesting to note their eyes full of regret and wandering all over as if they r looking for sympathy .
and i have seen good men die who accept death with content and peace.
the difference is very glaring


there nearly close to 1000 tribes in india if not more. plus there is lot of racial diversity .

arunachalis trace their origin to Tibeto-Burman people, i dont know Dada's tribe.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
CFTE Tu-204C operated as the J-20’s radar-testbed and avionics laboratory at the CFTE in Yanglian

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
US Aurora programme-TR-3B

@kikuyu1 u will find it interesting

and for those who dont know US did lots of research on nuclear powered aircraft's which is well documented.


The TR-3B triangle-shaped nuclear-powered aerospace platform, built in the mid-1980s by Lockheed Martin and Teledyne Ryan, was developed under the Aurora programme—a top-secret, multi-tier developmental roadmap for advanced aerospace vehicles. The TR-3B’s outer coating is reactive to electrical stimulation and can change colour, reflectiveness, and radar absorptiveness. This is also the first US vehicle to use quasi-crystals in the vehicle’s skin. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3B’s ECM suite, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft or a flying cylinder or even tricking radars into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations. A circular, mercury-based plasma-filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter (MFD) surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology. The plasma is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 RPM to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. Sandia National Labs and Lawrence Livermore Labs co-developed the MFD, which generates a magnetic-vortex field that disrupts or neutralises the effects of gravity on mass within proximity by 89%. This is not anti-gravity, for anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator—and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule and the nuclear reactor—are reduced by almost 90%. This causes the effect of making a vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmanoeuvre (horizontally and vertically) any aircraft yet constructed. Except, of course, those ‘Unconventional Flying Objects’ (UFO) not of Earthly origin. The TR-3B’s aerodynamic performance is limited only the stresses that its human aircrew can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%. The TR-3B’s aircrew can therefore comfortably sustain up to 40Gs which, when reduced by 89%, will be about 4.2 Gs.

By using electromagnetic forces to contain rotating systems, it is possible for the masses to reach relativistic velocities. Thus, a comparatively small amount of matter, if dense enough and moving fast enough, can produce usable gravitational effects. The requirement for a dense material moving at relativistic speeds would explain the use of Mercury plasma (heavy ions). If the plasma really spins at 50,000 RPM and the Mercury ions are also moving in a tight pitched spiral, then the individual ions would be moving probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of times faster than the bulk plasma spin, in order to execute their ‘screw thread’ motions. It is quite conceivable that the ions could be accelerated to relativistic speeds in this manner. For this to happen, it is necessary to strip the free electrons from the plasma, making a positively charged plasma, since the free electrons would tend to counter-rotate and reduce the efficiency of the MFD. One of Dr Albert Einstein’s postulates of general relativity (GR) says that gravitational mass and inertial mass are equivalent. This is consistent with claims of the inertial mass within the mercury-based plasma ring also being reduced by 89%. This also explains why the TR-3B is triange-shaped. Since it still requires conventional thrusters for propulsion, the thrusters would need to be located outside of the ‘mass reduction zone’ or else the mass of the thrusters reaction material would also be reduced, making them terribly inefficient. Since it requires a minimum of three legs to have a stable stool, it follows that one would need a minimum of three thrusters to have a stable aerospace platform. Three thrusters, located outside of the plasma ring, plus appropriate structural support, would naturally lead to a triangular shape for the vehicle.

The nuclear reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic thruster nozzles (developed by Rockwell), so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. This multi-mode propulsion system can operate in the atmosphere, with thrust being provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion; and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen/oxygen propulsion. Directional propulsion is thus provided by the three multi-mode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3B is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above 100,000 feet. It is 600 feet across, which would make it similar in size to an aircraft carrier. At least three prototypes were built, each measuring about 60 metres across, and the operational model is about 180 metres (600 feet) across. The TR-3B can thus be used as a reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time.

interesting ? grin grin grin grin

pic 1 (representative image)

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:57pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


Thanks for the video! What is Dada's ethnic group? Which is this N Asian looking Arunachal Pradesh people?
My lurking on defence.pk has convinced me Pakis are endlessly spoiling for a fight with you guys despite 3 losing wars and being outnumbered 7 to 1. They honestly dream of replicating the mass slaughter of their Mughal forefathers. You do know they killed tens of millions of Hindus?
They even named their missiles after these Mughal mass murderers!?
They know conventionally they can't take on and defeat indi that's why they invest in assymetrical capabilities.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 6:04pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:
US Aurora programme-TR-3B

@kikuyu1 u will find it interesting

and for those who dont know US did lots of research on nuclear powered aircraft's which is well documented.


The TR-3B triangle-shaped nuclear-powered aerospace platform, built in the mid-1980s by Lockheed Martin and Teledyne Ryan, was developed under the Aurora programme—a top-secret, multi-tier developmental roadmap for advanced aerospace vehicles. The TR-3B’s outer coating is reactive to electrical stimulation and can change colour, reflectiveness, and radar absorptiveness. This is also the first US vehicle to use quasi-crystals in the vehicle’s skin. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3B’s ECM suite, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft or a flying cylinder or even tricking radars into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations. A circular, mercury-based plasma-filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter (MFD) surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology. The plasma is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 RPM to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. Sandia National Labs and Lawrence Livermore Labs co-developed the MFD, which generates a magnetic-vortex field that disrupts or neutralises the effects of gravity on mass within proximity by 89%. This is not anti-gravity, for anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator—and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule and the nuclear reactor—are reduced by almost 90%. This causes the effect of making a vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmanoeuvre (horizontally and vertically) any aircraft yet constructed. Except, of course, those ‘Unconventional Flying Objects’ (UFO) not of Earthly origin. The TR-3B’s aerodynamic performance is limited only the stresses that its human aircrew can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%. The TR-3B’s aircrew can therefore comfortably sustain up to 40Gs which, when reduced by 89%, will be about 4.2 Gs.

By using electromagnetic forces to contain rotating systems, it is possible for the masses to reach relativistic velocities. Thus, a comparatively small amount of matter, if dense enough and moving fast enough, can produce usable gravitational effects. The requirement for a dense material moving at relativistic speeds would explain the use of Mercury plasma (heavy ions). If the plasma really spins at 50,000 RPM and the Mercury ions are also moving in a tight pitched spiral, then the individual ions would be moving probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of times faster than the bulk plasma spin, in order to execute their ‘screw thread’ motions. It is quite conceivable that the ions could be accelerated to relativistic speeds in this manner. For this to happen, it is necessary to strip the free electrons from the plasma, making a positively charged plasma, since the free electrons would tend to counter-rotate and reduce the efficiency of the MFD. One of Dr Albert Einstein’s postulates of general relativity (GR) says that gravitational mass and inertial mass are equivalent. This is consistent with claims of the inertial mass within the mercury-based plasma ring also being reduced by 89%. This also explains why the TR-3B is triange-shaped. Since it still requires conventional thrusters for propulsion, the thrusters would need to be located outside of the ‘mass reduction zone’ or else the mass of the thrusters reaction material would also be reduced, making them terribly inefficient. Since it requires a minimum of three legs to have a stable stool, it follows that one would need a minimum of three thrusters to have a stable aerospace platform. Three thrusters, located outside of the plasma ring, plus appropriate structural support, would naturally lead to a triangular shape for the vehicle.

The nuclear reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic thruster nozzles (developed by Rockwell), so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. This multi-mode propulsion system can operate in the atmosphere, with thrust being provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion; and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen/oxygen propulsion. Directional propulsion is thus provided by the three multi-mode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3B is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above 100,000 feet. It is 600 feet across, which would make it similar in size to an aircraft carrier. At least three prototypes were built, each measuring about 60 metres across, and the operational model is about 180 metres (600 feet) across. The TR-3B can thus be used as a reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time.

interesting ? grin grin grin grin

pic 1 (representative image)
gaskiya I don't believe.


is it really possible
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:31pm On Feb 03, 2017
giles14:

gaskiya I don't believe.


is it really possible

lets travel back 500 years

ancient nemesis2u : one day we will travel in air

ancient giles14 : ur mad , not possible

present day : we r traveling in air grin

for the atheists grin
science=> human mind => limitless possibilities

for the religious ones grin
science=> human mind => god

do u realize 50-100 years for now on, a human being will never die , he will become immortal (atleast those who can afford it grin)

thanks to cutting edge stem cell / cell regeneration / cloning technology

the day that happens concept of god will go out of the window .
and those who died in the name of god will be feeling pretty embarrassed about themselves on their stupidity. grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:36pm On Feb 03, 2017
Project Thor :: orbital Kinetic Bombardment

@kikuyu1 and others

A kinetic bombardment (sometimes called a mass drop) is a fairly simple concept. Mass is dropped. In other words, the idea behind a kinetic bombardment is to take something massive, and well, drop it.
It is the act of attacking a planetary surface with an inert projectile, where the destructive force comes from the kinetic energy of the projectile impacting at very high velocities. The concept is encountered in science fiction and is thought to have originated during the Cold War.
Non-orbital bombardments with kinetic projectiles, such as lobbing stones with siege engines such as catapults or trebuchets are considered siege warfare, not kinetic bombardment.

And wouldn't you know, humanity has been using kinetic bombardments (in a sense) for thousands of years. If it comes from a non-horizontal direction, doesn't use explosives, and has a blunt impact then it's technically a kinetic bombardment. A particularly ancient example occurred during the ice age when hunters would lure mammoths and other prey into lower areas, then drop heavy rocks on them from above. More modern examples can be found in the World War 2 and Cold War eras when multiple bombs were developed that were designed to weigh as much as possible and be dropped from large heights. While the intended purpose of this was to have the bombs penetrate the earth and explode underground, testing revealed that the massive forces involved (imagine 22,000 pounds being dropped from almost 12,000 feat and moving at nearly supersonic speed upon impact) would effectively cause two shock-waves, one when the bomb landed and one when it exploded.

Now imagine, instead of using a bomb or a small load of rocks to attack the earth, you decide to use something a bit more massive.

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb. Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb. These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.

In the case of the system mentioned in the 2003 USAF report above, a 6.1m x 0.3m tungsten cylinder impacting at Mach 10 has a kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 11.5 tons of TNT (or 7.2 tons of dynamite). The mass of such a cylinder is itself greater than 9 tons, so it is clear that the practical applications of such a system are limited to those situations where its other characteristics provide a decisive advantage - a conventional bomb/warhead of similar weight to the tungsten rod, delivered by conventional means, provides similar destructive capability and is a far more practical method.

The highly elongated shape and high density are to enhance sectional density and therefore minimize kinetic energy loss due to air friction and maximize penetration of hard or buried targets. The larger device is expected to be quite good at penetrating deeply buried bunkers and other command and control targets. The smaller "crowbar" size might be employed for anti-armor, anti-aircraft, anti-satellite and possibly anti-personnel use.

The weapon would be very hard to defend against. It has a very high closing velocity and a small radar cross-section. Launch is difficult to detect. Any infra-red launch signature occurs in orbit, at no fixed position. The infra-red launch signature also has a small magnitude compared to a ballistic missile launch. One drawback of the system is that the weapon's sensors would almost certainly be blind during atmospheric reentry due to the plasma sheath that would develop ahead of it, so a mobile target could be difficult to hit if it performed any unexpected maneuvering. The system would also have to cope with atmospheric heating from re-entry, which could melt non-tungsten components of the weapon.

While the larger version might be individually launched, the smaller versions would be launched from "pods" or "carriers" that contained several missiles.

The phrase "Rods from God" is also used to describe the same concept. A USAF report called them "hypervelocity rod bundles".

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:58pm On Feb 03, 2017
an interesting Russian article on exotic weapons

The perspective planning department is a top secret structure in the US Defense Department, which deals with the development of weapons of the future. There are such departments in the Russian Defense Ministry of course, as well as in other military departments of other countries. Needless to mention that all those developments make a state secret.

The question of weapons of the future is actual not only for military men, but for all people living on the planet. Experts of the Phenomenon commission made a forecast of the future weapons. The forecast was solely based on various publications in the press.

The first question about the military future of humanity is definitely connected with wars. One may not say that there will be absolutely no wars in the future. According to scientific calculations, about 15,000 wars have taken place on the planet during the recent 5,5 thousand years. More than 3.5 billion people have been killed in the wars. There were only 292 peaceful years in the entire history of the mankind. There is no reason to believe that something will change in the future. The human civilization is based on aggressiveness and war. Huge funds have been spent on armies and defense industries - the inseparable part of the modern economy of any country. Unfortunately, the situation will be preserved in the 21st century too.

According to experts' estimates, a global war is likely to happen in the future as well - it will be 30 percent likely to occur. In addition to nuclear, chemical, biological weapons, there will be more sophisticated weapons of mass destruction used - they are currently being developed in secret laboratories.

It has recently transpired that Russian scientists are working on the so-called plasma weapon. Academician Avramenko says, the plasma weapon will be capable of repulsing air and even space attacks. The controllable bunch of power created with the help of powerful ground lasers can destroy any aircraft and any missile when it approaches a defended area. It is a horrible weapon, although it has several disadvantages too. Ground generators can be easily detected and then destroyed. Probably, people will use autonomous and solar weapons in the future. The solar weapon was used already in the III century B.C. when Greek mathematician Archimedes burnt the Roman fleet with the help of mirrors and the sun. Unfortunately, such weapon stops working in bad weather. However, mirrors can be taken to space to avoid the weather problem. The temperature in the center of the focused solar current can reach thousands of degrees. Such a powerful ray can reach the ground from space through thick layer of clouds. This weapon will be capable of melting and burning any target. However, this weapon has a rather big disadvantage: it destroys everything on a large area around the target, like an A-bomb. A winner does not need the burnt barren land. A neutron bomb is a lot better in this respect, because it kills every living being, but non-living objects remain intact. Yet, there is no use of a town if there are no people there. Genetic poison will probably be used in the future as the most optimal variant to destroy a part of the population, even a certain specific part. Each human race has an individual genetic code. Genetic differences may lay the ground of the genetic weapon. It will be possible to create genetic viruses to exterminate a certain group of people on the planet.

Terrorism of the 21st century will enter the new technological level too. As it is well known, spy satellites can read the title of a newspaper on the ground. A laser of a killer satellite can destroy any target on the Earth's surface, which is rather convenient for large terrorist acts - it will not be possible to identify the "nation" of the satellite, because a laser can be shot from any location in space filled with other countries' satellites.

New discoveries and technologies will be gradually coming out of secret laboratories. Most probable weapons of the future include:

Bioelectronical weapon. Professor G.Bogdanov patented the generator to fight termites. The generator's radiation kills insects paralyzing their nerve system. One shall assume, a certain frequency of the appliance can kill people too.

Meteorological weapon. It is possible to make specified weather on a specified territory changing the electric charge of the air. Hard rains, droughts, blizzards can cause a very serious damage to an enemy. It is known that Russian scientists were working in the field of the meteorological war in the city of Obninsk.

Tectonic weapon. Artificial earthquakes will probably be used in the future as a weapon to level cities and towns. Military departments of Russia and the USA strongly reject such a possibility at present. However, Professor E. Kerimov of the Earth Physics Institute believes that scheduled natural disasters are quite real. Yet, official departments reject the existence of all above-mentioned weapons.

It is not ruled out that the wars of the future will be taking place without the explicit use of weapons. A disastrous nuclear explosion is very effective, but other methods are very efficient too, when enemies do not realize they are being attacked. Manifestations of such wars can already be seen in modern times. The capitalist and the communist superpowers have been struggling for decades without the use of their huge military potentials. As a result of the opposition, the communist superpower was destroyed. Soviet people perceived the break up of the USSR as a liberation, although the country was virtually defeated in the economic war. It is the economic war that allows to conquer other states one after another. However, Russia has not been conquered yet, because the Russian economy has not been added to the economy of the winner. Money will probably be the major weapon of the 21st century.

Let's imagine that a country is waging war against an enemy, using tectonic and meteorological weapons: an earthquake is followed with hard rains and draughts. An enemy will most likely ask for help after such a powerful impact. It will be the best moment to use the power of money. (very interesting idea)

The weapons of the future will be a lot more efficient than the nuclear weapon. It does not matter, if they are going to be used as the prime or the extra weapon in a war - people will suffer and die anyway. The weapons of the new technologies pose a great danger to life on planet Earth. All present developments and research works must be strictly controlled by the state and by the society. A victory in a war is good for the government of the winning state, first and foremost. Common people have to survive a disastrous tragedy for a victory.

As experience shows, all anomalous or inexplicable phenomena are hidden from the public eye. Such a policy is understandable, because secret or unexplored knowledge can be used for someone's selfish needs. On the other hand, concealing or misrepresenting facts, separating science into "official" and "unofficial" categories is extremely dangerous for the whole humanity. Science helps people find answers to questions, it is not meant to incite wars and hostilities.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 7:29pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:
Project Thor :: orbital Kinetic Bombardment

@kikuyu1 and others

A kinetic bombardment (sometimes called a mass drop) is a fairly simple concept. Mass is dropped. In other words, the idea behind a kinetic bombardment is to take something massive, and well, drop it.
It is the act of attacking a planetary surface with an inert projectile, where the destructive force comes from the kinetic energy of the projectile impacting at very high velocities. The concept is encountered in science fiction and is thought to have originated during the Cold War.
Non-orbital bombardments with kinetic projectiles, such as lobbing stones with siege engines such as catapults or trebuchets are considered siege warfare, not kinetic bombardment.

And wouldn't you know, humanity has been using kinetic bombardments (in a sense) for thousands of years. If it comes from a non-horizontal direction, doesn't use explosives, and has a blunt impact then it's technically a kinetic bombardment. A particularly ancient example occurred during the ice age when hunters would lure mammoths and other prey into lower areas, then drop heavy rocks on them from above. More modern examples can be found in the World War 2 and Cold War eras when multiple bombs were developed that were designed to weigh as much as possible and be dropped from large heights. While the intended purpose of this was to have the bombs penetrate the earth and explode underground, testing revealed that the massive forces involved (imagine 22,000 pounds being dropped from almost 12,000 feat and moving at nearly supersonic speed upon impact) would effectively cause two shock-waves, one when the bomb landed and one when it exploded.

Now imagine, instead of using a bomb or a small load of rocks to attack the earth, you decide to use something a bit more massive.

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb. Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb. These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.

In the case of the system mentioned in the 2003 USAF report above, a 6.1m x 0.3m tungsten cylinder impacting at Mach 10 has a kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 11.5 tons of TNT (or 7.2 tons of dynamite). The mass of such a cylinder is itself greater than 9 tons, so it is clear that the practical applications of such a system are limited to those situations where its other characteristics provide a decisive advantage - a conventional bomb/warhead of similar weight to the tungsten rod, delivered by conventional means, provides similar destructive capability and is a far more practical method.

The highly elongated shape and high density are to enhance sectional density and therefore minimize kinetic energy loss due to air friction and maximize penetration of hard or buried targets. The larger device is expected to be quite good at penetrating deeply buried bunkers and other command and control targets. The smaller "crowbar" size might be employed for anti-armor, anti-aircraft, anti-satellite and possibly anti-personnel use.

The weapon would be very hard to defend against. It has a very high closing velocity and a small radar cross-section. Launch is difficult to detect. Any infra-red launch signature occurs in orbit, at no fixed position. The infra-red launch signature also has a small magnitude compared to a ballistic missile launch. One drawback of the system is that the weapon's sensors would almost certainly be blind during atmospheric reentry due to the plasma sheath that would develop ahead of it, so a mobile target could be difficult to hit if it performed any unexpected maneuvering. The system would also have to cope with atmospheric heating from re-entry, which could melt non-tungsten components of the weapon.

While the larger version might be individually launched, the smaller versions would be launched from "pods" or "carriers" that contained several missiles.

The phrase "Rods from God" is also used to describe the same concept. A USAF report called them "hypervelocity rod bundles".

pic 1 representative image

I'm 70pct certain the CIA has already used the God Rod operationally. In August 2015 there was a massive explosion in Tianjin. The Chinese 'explained' the nuke level blast waz caused by improperly stored chemicals.
The Chinese a week previously has devalued the yuan by 8pct sparking claims of currency warfare. Also Tianjin is the hq of the PLAN cyberwar centre. In fact the building housing their Tianhe1 supercomputer was damaged. Look at the pics. Am on my phone now can't link.
Chinese8107 what's the official story?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 7:35pm On Feb 03, 2017
overhypedsteve:
are you talking about the Mercury Engines used by the Ancient Urudimanti emperor in the Ancient Urudi Epics? Legend have it that it was laid inside the Gazolima Pyramid which is deep somewhere in the atlantic ocean not too far from the Coast of Kurumbaya which is a dark ancient word for Illusions. grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Dude,there's very very real things in this world about which YOU HAVE NO IDEA. Frankly you're knowledge on this issue is too limited to even venture an opinion.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 7:39pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:


i have a question for u

what is the most powerful weapon in the possession of man ? grin

I'm too simple minded to attempt such a question. My simple skullspace software can only handle tangibles! Sorry; but indulge me and other curious forumers.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:46pm On Feb 03, 2017
from 1:40 ... what dreams are made of


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC79fs7hVBo

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 7:46pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:


bro lets not discuss this topic , others will/might find it objectionable and importantly nothing meaningful will come out it.

lets talk on far interesting things which will interest both of us and others too. wink

hundreds of civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries have come and gone ,
millions have died fighting for these very civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries only to have these very civilizations, kingdoms, empires , republics , confederations , countries conquered , destroyed , assimilated and withered away before their very eyes and over a period of time .

wasting away our life for the sake of glory and ideology based on religious / ethnic / racial reasons is tomfoolery

why do we fight for our country ?
we fight to protect our family our friends , our independence and our way of life
only fools/marauders/looters fight for reasons other than the reasons i mentioned just above.

those who do so r just wasting their lives by getting themselves played by others ie men in power, which they also realize but only on their death bed.

a human being comes to this work naked and goes out naked , he takes nothings along with him except his deeds and acquired knowledge

i have seen terrorists die inches away from me , it is interesting to note their eyes full of regret and wandering all over as if they r looking for sympathy .
and i have seen good men die who accept death with content and peace.
the difference is very glaring


there nearly close to 1000 tribes in india if not more. plus there is lot of racial diversity .

arunachalis trace their origin to Tibeto-Burman people, i dont know Dada's tribe.










Understood! As a perpetual observer of Man and his deeds I've always found India fascinating in its diversity. There are facts you'd find unbelievable even as an Indian;eg Tamil languages are W African in origin. In fact apart from pronuncation Cameroonians and Tamils can communicate directly.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by chinese8107: 7:55pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


I'm 70pct certain the CIA has already used the God Rod operationally. In August 2015 there was a massive explosion in Tianjin. The Chinese 'explained' the nuke level blast waz caused by improperly stored chemicals.
The Chinese a week previously has devalued the yuan by 8pct sparking claims of currency warfare. Also Tianjin is the hq of the PLAN cyberwar centre. In fact the building housing their Tianhe1 supercomputer was damaged. Look at the pics. Am on my phone now can't link.
Chinese8107 what's the official story?
no

who told you that ?

the blast ib tianjin is an chemical explode accident,and not nuke level.
The RMB only devalued 6.5% so far.8 percent is google's estimated target price they copy from xe.com,but now it proved wrong.
Tianhe1 suffered a little damage in blast,but now works full loaded , it's only rank NO 3 in CHINA for its speed .NO 1 is shengwei in wuxi city.NO 2 is Tianhe 2 in guangzhou.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:02pm On Feb 03, 2017
kikuyu1:


Understood! As a perpetual observer of Man and his deeds I've always found India fascinating in its diversity. There are facts you'd find unbelievable even as an Indian;eg Tamil languages are W African in origin. In fact apart from pronuncation Cameroonians and Tamils can communicate directly.

diversity came in many ways

1. with open arms

2. with swords dangling on necks

3. with manipulation and bribes

every good story has a bad side to it undecided


ur info about Cameroonian and Tamil language is new to me

its very interesting , will follow up on this info and will dig up more.

also do u know the mother of all humans is an African women grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 8:08pm On Feb 03, 2017
nemesis2u:
Project Thor :: orbital Kinetic Bombardment

@kikuyu1 and others

A kinetic bombardment (sometimes called a mass drop) is a fairly simple concept. Mass is dropped. In other words, the idea behind a kinetic bombardment is to take something massive, and well, drop it.
It is the act of attacking a planetary surface with an inert projectile, where the destructive force comes from the kinetic energy of the projectile impacting at very high velocities. The concept is encountered in science fiction and is thought to have originated during the Cold War.
Non-orbital bombardments with kinetic projectiles, such as lobbing stones with siege engines such as catapults or trebuchets are considered siege warfare, not kinetic bombardment.

And wouldn't you know, humanity has been using kinetic bombardments (in a sense) for thousands of years. If it comes from a non-horizontal direction, doesn't use explosives, and has a blunt impact then it's technically a kinetic bombardment. A particularly ancient example occurred during the ice age when hunters would lure mammoths and other prey into lower areas, then drop heavy rocks on them from above. More modern examples can be found in the World War 2 and Cold War eras when multiple bombs were developed that were designed to weigh as much as possible and be dropped from large heights. While the intended purpose of this was to have the bombs penetrate the earth and explode underground, testing revealed that the massive forces involved (imagine 22,000 pounds being dropped from almost 12,000 feat and moving at nearly supersonic speed upon impact) would effectively cause two shock-waves, one when the bomb landed and one when it exploded.

Now imagine, instead of using a bomb or a small load of rocks to attack the earth, you decide to use something a bit more massive.

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb. Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb. These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.

In the case of the system mentioned in the 2003 USAF report above, a 6.1m x 0.3m tungsten cylinder impacting at Mach 10 has a kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 11.5 tons of TNT (or 7.2 tons of dynamite). The mass of such a cylinder is itself greater than 9 tons, so it is clear that the practical applications of such a system are limited to those situations where its other characteristics provide a decisive advantage - a conventional bomb/warhead of similar weight to the tungsten rod, delivered by conventional means, provides similar destructive capability and is a far more practical method.

The highly elongated shape and high density are to enhance sectional density and therefore minimize kinetic energy loss due to air friction and maximize penetration of hard or buried targets. The larger device is expected to be quite good at penetrating deeply buried bunkers and other command and control targets. The smaller "crowbar" size might be employed for anti-armor, anti-aircraft, anti-satellite and possibly anti-personnel use.

The weapon would be very hard to defend against. It has a very high closing velocity and a small radar cross-section. Launch is difficult to detect. Any infra-red launch signature occurs in orbit, at no fixed position. The infra-red launch signature also has a small magnitude compared to a ballistic missile launch. One drawback of the system is that the weapon's sensors would almost certainly be blind during atmospheric reentry due to the plasma sheath that would develop ahead of it, so a mobile target could be difficult to hit if it performed any unexpected maneuvering. The system would also have to cope with atmospheric heating from re-entry, which could melt non-tungsten components of the weapon.

While the larger version might be individually launched, the smaller versions would be launched from "pods" or "carriers" that contained several missiles.

The phrase "Rods from God" is also used to describe the same concept. A USAF report called them "hypervelocity rod bundles".

pic 1 representative image
but it will lack precision/accuracy.

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