Some parents decided to keep their children home rather than have the ids indoctrinated by President Obama. Jim Greer the head of the Florida GOP said that Obama was trying to advance a Socialist agenda. A GOP Representative from South Carolina yells out "lie" during a Obama speech on health care address to a joint session of Congress. Conservatives have been showing up at townhall  meetings and Obama speeches with weapons and wearing t-shirts with It's time to water the tree of liberty!" (a wingnut way of stating Jefferson's famous quote, "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants." . Michelle Bachmann talks of the need for armed rebellion from time to time and calls Obama a tyrant and Marxist. Governors Perry of Texas and Pawlenty of Minnesota talk of secession. Sarah Palin, Chuck Grassley and others talk of Death Panels in the health care bill. All of these actions have occurred with the support of GOP officials.

What is the overall goal of these maneuvers? Dan Savage says the following:  "I really do think that the Michele Bachmanns of the world and the Glenn Becks of the world are actively and consciously, or subconsciously, trying to get - I'm just going to say it, trying to get the president killed. That's why they're setting this up as kill or be killed arguments. He's going to kill your grandma, pull the plug on grandma, death panels that little children have to go in front of."

http://www.breitbart.tv/olbermann-guest-dan-savage-beck-bachmann-actively-trying-to-get-the-president-killed/

MJ Rosenberg has a TPM post wherein he details a book on a presidential assassination titled "Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield."  From the Rosenberg post:

Garfield wasn't even a candidate for a President in 1880 (he was a Congressman) and went to the convention to support one of the anti-Grant candidates.

But, after 35 ballots of deadlock, the Republican convention nominated Garfield who had won it over with a spellbinding speech. The Grant people went crazy, frustrated at the lost opportunities to rob the government blind for four more years and sat on their hands in November.

Grant himself refused to acknowledge that Garfield was the nominee and then President. Even after the inauguration, he personally snubbed Garfield at every opportunity and his supporters spread word of Grant's contempt for Garfield far and wide.

The corruptionist wing of the GOP (similar to the far right crazies of today) spewed incessant hatred at Garfield. To them, he was utterly illegitimate simply because he wasn't Grant and because he refused to appoint crooks whose names they suggested for government positions. Garfield spent the first four months of his Presidency trying to defeat the Grant faction (known as the Stalwarts, meaning they were stalwart backers of Grant).

There are marked differences in the situations between Garfield and Obama. The level of political violence was much higher in Garfield's time, but as neoboho noted in a TPM post in response to a blog from Elizabeth2, "The Last Word On Race (IMO)", Obama gets 30 death threats a day - up 400% from GW Bush's average.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

Should we take comments like the "lie" shouted out by Representative Joe Wilson, as a mere moment of passion, or a part of a larger plan in which the GOP tries to delegitimize Obama's Presidency? Are the Republicans feeding red meat to the GOP base, fomenting secession and the bearing of arms at public meetings?

If that is the goal, aren't Republicans also placing Obama's life at risk?

America is massively populated with agents of satan and to cap it up,they are seen as responsible humans running the affairs of men.

Free speech bullshit don't seems to differentiate between evil speech and good one,that is why people like bill o'reily of fox have jobs,dickheads

The regime of George W. Bush killed the USA. The repercussions for his actions are just becoming manifest now because the despot is no more and everyone can express themselves. Democracy has returned and now all mouths are open. Where were these GOP screamers during the 8 year tyranny of George Bush and Dick Cheney?


Even before Obama's election, as a Senator, there was a time when his life was under threat a a time he stood vehemently against George Bush's Iraqi spending. So It's not a first.


Texas will most likely secede before Obama's tenure is over, or it may even bring an end to his tenure.

@ Poster

You and your fellow black racist should go and get a life . . . . Phocking retards thats always depend on the race card.

Just see how hypocritical you guys are . . . . .Didnt Senator Obama oppose all the major policies of George Bush?I'm yet to see a president that was

ridiculed  to extent of that of Geroge Bush which you liberals spearheaded all the attacks. .    . Now you guys are expecting

Republicans to give President Obama_messaih a free ride so that he can implement his socialist/extreme liberal agenda.

  Damn! you shit heads make me sick.

IGWE_USA:

@ Poster

You and your fellow black racist should go and get a life . . . . Phocking retards thats always depend on the race card.

Just see how hypocritical you guys are . . . . .Didnt Senator Obama oppose all the major policies of George Bush?I'm yet to see a president that was

ridiculed  to extent of that of Geroge Bush which you liberals spearheaded all the attacks. .    . Now you guys are expecting

Republicans to give President Obama_messaih a free ride so that he can implement his socialist/extreme liberal agenda.

  Damn! you shit heads make me sick.

Can you name 5 socialist agenda Obama is implementing in the US that has never been implemented before?. Can you also give us 5 reasons why George W Bush's and his republican era still remains the best yet in the past 17 years?. If you think his speech will also corrupt your children, why don't you block him on your home TV and internet so as to guard your children from seeing the anti Christ. It is only a fool who wouldn't see racism here and that culture shall continue. They made you people Buffalo soldiers and Buffalo soldiers shall you remain.

Aloy~Emeka:

Can you name 5 socialist agenda Obama is implementing in the US that has never been implemented before?. Can you also give us 5 reasons why George W Bush's and his republican era still remains the best yet in the past 17 years?. If you think his speech will also corrupt your children, why don't you block him on your home TV and internet so as to guard your children from seeing the anti Christ. It is only a fool who wouldn't see racism here and that culture shall continue. They made you people Buffalo soldiers and Buffalo soldiers shall you remain.

Dang!! I'm not surprised with the utter rubbish you just spewed above because its the typical reasoning that emanates from Africans and most new semi skilled immigrants in America . . . .especially when they are struck with the reality that America isnt that bed of roses they always dreamt of . . . .an America where they can pluck money from the tree, an America where every thing is free,where the lazy ones would live on the sweat of the rich/harding working ones. I wont engage you further because you are already living in your deluded world of Obama where you guys are always ready to play the reverse racism.
  Buffalo soldier my ass, Y'all should keep on waiting for mannas from heaven.

IGWE USA- you have listening to the venom and hate being disseminated by Beck and Limbaugh and have lost your objectivity. it is easy to rain abuses on people that disagree with you. You remind me of Palin, empty makes outrageous claims but no substance to back up their argument. They incite crowds into a state of misguided frenzy but would shy from taking responsibility for their actions. I have watched rallies and opposition to sitting presidenst since the 70"s and have not witnessed this degree of hate and resentment. it almost looks like an open insurrection. I am not against the criticism of Obama's policies but deliberately whipping up crowd into high states of emotion based on falsehood is a dangerous may set a dangerous precedent. Obama has been described as a Black Christan Radical, Marxist, Arab Muslim, Communits, fascist, Hitler, Socialist etc in a bid to make him a figure of hate. IGWE USA, do you also subscribe to these descritions of Obama?

You call Obama a communist and have not been able to come up with any programme of his to substantiate your claims. The $700 billion stimulus plan was done by the republicans and even the negotations for auto bailouts was already weel advanced before Obama assumed office.

A deranged follower of these demagogues who is imppulsive withought examining the origin or validity of these accusations by the far right could easily decide o take out Obama. When you accuse your president of setting up death panel or planning to murder your grandparents, this can serve as an incentive for a mad person to do something stupid.

I can bet you, Beck and Limbaugh and Bachmann and Palin and the others who have encouraged their deranged followers would have to have round the clock security guards for themselves and their loved ones if something happens to Obama.

Why weren't these protests organised when Bush took the USA into two wars and Halliburton profiting from the war effors - thus leaving behind huge deficits or wall street paying itself ridiculous bonuses thereby plunging the world into the worse recession since the 90's.

I hate to say it but these protests and hate echoes events that occured in Germany of the 1930s. It's almost as if blacks, hispanics and asians too are the jews of the 21st century. And this is only possible because an awful lot of people just don't possess the knowledge necessary to understand and avoid this. Unfortunately, it's all but impossible to educate those persons like IGWE USA at this at this stage

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service
US President Barack Obama is the target of more than 30 potential death threats a day and is being protected by an increasingly over-stretched and under-resourced Secret Service, according to a new book.
Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.

The viewership of fox (rifght wing) news channel has increased significantly since Obama was elected to office.
MONDAY, AUG. 24, 2009

FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,440,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,937,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,810,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,450,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,066,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,860,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,114,000
CNN KING 1,063,000
MSNBC MADDOW 885,000
CNN COOPER 827,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 640,000

IGWE-USA, open your eyes and you can see an unusual trend here and the only common denominator is Obama's race. There are still a sizeable proportion of the rulling whties who are uncomfortable with a minority in the white house.

Please you may have a good job (you are not an exception), but just don't assume that anyone calling for a more just and equitable society s somehow seeking handouts. Warren Buffet arguably the world's greatest investor has always supported democrats and consistently critised the republican tax policy whereby the rich pay a smaller proportion of their income in taxes compared to the poor.

I'm yet to see a president that was ridiculed to extent of that of Geroge Bush which you liberals spearheaded all the attacks

Why was he so ridiculed even outside America?

IGWE_USA:

Dang!! I'm not surprised with the utter rubbish you just spewed above because its the typical reasoning that emanates from Africans and most new semi skilled immigrants in America . . . .especially when they are struck with the reality that America isnt that bed of roses they always dreamt of . . . .an America where they can pluck money from the tree, an America where every thing is free,where the lazy ones would live on the sweat of the rich/harding working ones. I wont engage you further because you are already living in your deluded world of Obama where you guys are always ready to play the reverse racism.
  Buffalo soldier my ass, Y'all should keep on waiting for mannas from heaven.
 

I believe I just asked you a question. If you have the answers, do let me know, if not, hold your peace forever because it seems you don't have the answer this one you are throwing insults in order to shut me up. I don't have to take panadol for Obama's headache.

Tornadoz:

Why was he so ridiculed even outside America?

Because he chose to make the hard and unpopular decisions like the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan which he doesnt expect most liberals, muslims
and non Americans to support; afterall he is protecting his country and not yours.
Time shall tell, President Obama is now facing the same dilema in Afganistan, his liberal base are already at loggerheads with him over the recent assesment report by General Mycrystal in which he demanded for more troops to combat the growing insurgent in Afganistan, his yet to figure out what to do with Guantanamo Bay after the his much touted campaign promise that he would close it as soon as possible. . . .We shall now wait till the end of Obamas's term to see how popular he remains.

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A deranged follower of these demagogues who is imppulsive withought examining the origin or validity of these accusations by the far right could easily decide o take out Obama. When you accuse your president of setting up death panel or planning to murder your grandparents, this can serve as an incentive for a mad person to do something stupid.

I can bet you, Beck and Limbaugh and Bachmann and Palin and the others who have encouraged their deranged followers would have to have round the clock security guards for themselves and their loved ones if something happens to Obama.

Why weren't these protests organised when Bush took the USA into two wars and Halliburton profiting from the war effors - thus leaving behind huge deficits or wall street paying itself ridiculous bonuses thereby plunging the world into the worse recession since the 90's.

I hate to say it but these protests and hate echoes events that occured in Germany of the 1930s. It's almost as if blacks, hispanics and asians too are the jews of the 21st century. And this is only possible because an awful lot of people just don't possess the knowledge necessary to understand and avoid this. Unfortunately, it's all but impossible to educate those persons like IGWE USA at this at this stage

      You see, this was exactly the kind of silly comments I rebutted in my last response to AloyEmeka . . .  We blacks and other immigrants especially the non skilled hispanics and Asians always try to regurgitate all these obnoxious statements,always ready to play the victim card.
From your post I can now deduce that being an Obamamenaic is what makes you knowledgeable, right? . thats really sad.
      Also in one of your posts, you reiterated that Bush started the TARP program which Obama continued, I never demurred that. But in a characteristics liberal style, Obama and his fellow left wing demagogues drafted and passed their Stimulus Bill that was overwhelmingly garnished with porks that absolutely had nothing to do with stimulating the economy. . . . . May be you are using the socialist Europe and UK that is as good as the fallen Roman empire as a case point for America.
       I guess you might be pondering why I and other Americans_{also blacks} are ardent opposers of some of Obama's policies: Some of the reasons are because of his abortions and GLBT views and his believes that the rich owes the poor; hence they need to pay exorbitant taxes to foot his socialist agenda. To add salt to the injury, some of these shameless lazy fellows always have the audacity crying for income equality;unfortunately, they forgot that all men can never be equal in any ramification.
       IDIOpath, always try to reason independently and avoid the group thinking syndrome.

IGWE_USA:

Dang!! I'm not surprised with the utter rubbish you just spewed above because its the typical reasoning that emanates from Africans and most new semi skilled immigrants in America . . . .especially when they are struck with the reality that America isnt that bed of roses they always dreamt of . . . .an America where they can pluck money from the tree, an America where every thing is free,where the lazy ones would live on the sweat of the rich/harding working ones. I wont engage you further because you are already living in your deluded world of Obama where you guys are always ready to play the reverse racism.
  Buffalo soldier my ass, Y'all should keep on waiting for mannas from heaven.
 

this is the problem with the republican noise making . . . they accuse Obama of socialism but CANNOT give one simple example of one policy of Obama's that they disagree with.

IGWE_USA:

        I guess you might be pondering why I and other Americans_{also blacks} are ardent opposers of some of Obama's policies: Some of the reasons are because of his abortions and GLBT views and his believes that the rich owes the poor; hence they need to pay exorbitant taxes to foot his socialist agenda. To add salt to the injury, some of these shameless lazy fellows always have the audacity crying for income equality;unfortunately, they forgot that all men can never be equal in any ramification.
       IDIOpath, always try to reason independently and avoid the group thinking syndrome.

this is absolutely senseless in my opinion. If these are the "policies" that make you and your fellow white republicans so enraged that you wont rest until Obama is killed then i say your problem has less to do with political policy than your own racist agenda.

You oppose Obama's policies based on his views on Abortion and GLBTs? What has Obama's private view on abortion got to do with the economy or healthcare?

When did Obama tell you that the rich owed the poor? Did you know that during WWII . . . the tax on the richest Americans was close to 90% and that under Obama it has not shifted by 0.0001%? Do you know that under Reagan the rich were taxed even more than Obama is proposing?
Do you know that one of the major problems with the Bush economy was the tax cuts granted to the rich that virtually pushed us into a massive deficit?

Do these folks think before they spout?

IGWE_USA:

Because he chose to make the hard and unpopular decisions like the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan which he doesnt expect most liberals, muslims
and non Americans to support; afterall he is protecting his country and not yours.
Time shall tell, President Obama is now facing the same dilema in Afganistan, his liberal base are already at loggerheads with him over the recent assesment report by General Mycrystal in which he demanded for more troops to combat the growing insurgent in Afganistan, his yet to figure out what to do with Guantanamo Bay after the his much touted campaign promise that he would close it as soon as possible. . . .We shall now wait till the end of Obamas's term to see how popular he remains.

Sounds like you pray for more 4 years of tribulation just to satisfy yourself that Obama is a mistake. Retrogressive thinking among human beings. So its better for America to fall so you can come here and shout, una don see wetin i dey talk instead of him doing well so you can eat your words.  A good spirited American will choose the latter but er''r, I forgot you are an unskilled republican immigrant. Buffalo soldier.

IGWE_USA:

   But in a characteristics liberal style, Obama and his fellow left wing demagogues drafted and passed their Stimulus Bill that was overwhelmingly garnished with porks that absolutely had nothing to do with stimulating the economy. . . . . May be you are using the socialist Europe and UK that is as good as the fallen Roman empire as a case point for America.

Very daft point IMO. The socialist Europe have a healthcare delivery system that is vastly superior to that of the US. See Americans flying to Belgium, Germany and even Jordan for health care they cant afford here in the US.

As "socialist" as Europe is . . . Germany, France and the UK are already out of the recession and are posting positive GDP growth rates while your almighty America is still groaning under poor economic numbers. If not for the much maligned stimulus, it would have been far worse.

For those crying about the stimulus now, when Bush was dashing you all free checks in the mail i didnt hear anyone crying about "overspending".

davidylan:

this is absolutely senseless in my opinion. If these are the "policies" that make you and your fellow white republicans so enraged that you wont rest until Obama is killed then i say your problem has less to do with political policy than your own racist agenda.

You oppose Obama's policies based on his views on Abortion and GLBTs? What has Obama's private view on abortion got to do with the economy or healthcare?

When did Obama tell you that the rich owed the poor? Did you know that during WWII . . . the tax on the richest Americans was close to 90% and that under Obama it has not shifted by 0.0001%? Do you know that under Reagan the rich were taxed even more than Obama is proposing?
Do you know that one of the major problems with the Bush economy was the tax cuts granted to the rich that virtually pushed us into a massive deficit?

Do these folks think before they spout?

Anything to attack Obama. Even when he is fighting on their behalf, they will be attacking him yet they wouldn't give one reason for such attack or an alternate solution. Some people here are becoming more republican than the republicans themselves. Republicans failed massively in the last election because they messed up America yet they have guts to utter rubbish. If they knew the formula to this healthcare, why didn't they fix it during the Bush regime?. What did Bush fix in his 8 years in office apart from shattering Iraq? What?.

Foolish igwe doesn't know the republicans against this healthcare are after their divested interests in the insurance industry. I would if such a plan will make my business grow thin. Its all these pay check republicans who can hardly afford their rent how much less medical insurance that support them that i pity.

The republican lawmakers are trying to protect their checks from the Insurance industry, the common folks want the white house to remain historically occupied only by whites. Period.

The problem is not overspending or healthcare or deficits or government take over or socialism . . . it is Obama's color.

Please read Maureen Dowd's column in the NYT this weekend.

Fools; That was the same reason when they voted Bush the 2nd time after seeing his huge errors and inability to lead.  3 years after the 2nd mistake, they started losing their jobs and some are  regretting  their action yet some of them are blaming Obama for their job losses. Even a 2 year old should know that job losses among Americans stems from years of bad economic judgment and not Obama's 9 month leadership. They never complained about Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson when they were fixing a broken nation because they knew it will take time to fix the damage but with a black man, he must have a midas touch or they scandalize him and call him hitler. Tribalism and racism are the two greatest evil in the world.

Aloy~Emeka:

Sounds like you pray for more 4 years of tribulation just to satisfy yourself that Obama is a mistake. Retrogressive thinking among human beings. So its better for America to fall so you can come here and shout, una don see wetin i dey talk instead of him doing well so you can eat your words.  A good spirited American will choose the latter but er''r, I forgot you are an unskilled republican immigrant. Buffalo soldier.

I guess you are a graduate, right?Only God knows the Nigeria university that dished you out as one of their half baked products. .  .Just blame yourself for your inability to discern my response to TORNADOZ 's question.
I'm not even pertubed by your myopic views on American politics which is mostly driven by allegiance to race factor . . . .It only exposes your archaic way of reasoning.  . .  And I must tell you that a Republican Buffalo soldier is pretty much better than you idiot's miserable life as a YARADUA buffalo soldier.
FYI, I'm a student and am doing pretty good in all ramification.

IGWE_USA:

I guess you are a graduate, right?Only God knows the Nigeria university that dished you out as one of their half baked products. .  .Just blame yourself for your inability to discern my response to TORNADOZ 's question.
I'm not even pertubed by your myopic views on American politics which is mostly driven by allegiance to race factor . . . .It only exposes your archaic way of reasoning.  . .  And I must tell you that a Republican Buffalo soldier is pretty much better than you idiot's miserable life as a YARADUA buffalo soldier.
FYI, I'm a student and am doing pretty good in all ramification.

You still havent provided any rationale for your anti-Obama rants. All we get is insults . . . typical of the republican mob.

davidylan:

You still havent provided any rationale for your anti-Obama rants. All we get is insults . . . typical of the republican mob.

I just replied in kind to AloyEmeka who rained insults on me for no reason. I cant be cowed by Obamameniacs who believe that the opposition
shouldnt be heard.
How many times do you guys use the above highlighted term while referring to anti-war protesters, pro-abortion and gay protesters? Nada.
But when conservatives organize their own protest, you and your fellow leftist wont hesitate to call it mobs/rednecks in action.Jeez, thats very pathetic. I know that you guys dont see any thing wrong with anti- Bush rants which started right from the day he defeated AlGore at the supreme court.
   Com'on homeboy, I must tell you that I enjoy playing these games with you black brothers.

IGWE_USA:

I just replied in kind to AloyEmeka who rained insults on me for no reason. I cant be cowed by Obamameniacs who believe that the opposition
shouldnt be heard.
How many times do you guys use the above highlighted term while referring to anti-war protesters, pro-abortion and gay protesters? Nada.
But when conservatives organize their own protest, you and your fellow leftist wont hesitate to call it mobs/rednecks in action.Jeez, thats very pathetic. I know that you guys dont see any thing wrong with anti- Bush rants which started right from the day he defeated AlGore at the supreme court.
   Com'on homeboy, I must tell you that I enjoy playing these games with you black brothers.

No I did not; If you were courteous initially. I wouldn't resort to that. What do you expect when you called me a semi skilled immigrant et al?. You think that being a student in America makes you a Nigerian colossus?. You are yet to give one reason why YOU as a person is against Obama's healthcare plan and also provide a better republican alternative. I will appreciate that instead of of these empty rehearsed rhetorics you were indoctrinated with on TV. I did not support Obama because of his skin colour and neither did I support Bush in his first 4 years because of his skin colour. May be your daddy is paying for option A medical insurance plan for you and that is why you are scattering saliva here supporting republicans. The great news I have for you is that your insurance may only cover malaria and flu. Any day you have something serious is the day you'll realized you've been duped bigtime.

IGWE_USA:

I guess you are a graduate, right?Only God knows the Nigeria university that dished you out as one of their half baked products. .  .Just blame yourself for your inability to discern my response to TORNADOZ 's question.
I'm not even pertubed by your myopic views on American politics which is mostly driven by allegiance to race factor . . . .It only exposes your archaic way of reasoning.  . .  And I must tell you that a Republican Buffalo soldier is pretty much better than you idiot's miserable life as a YARADUA buffalo soldier.
FYI, I'm a student and am doing pretty good in all ramification.

No I'm not. Is being a graduate required to conduct molue in Lagos?. I think not.

^^^^^^@AloyEmeka
Henceforth, I will cease to engage you and your fellow leftist on this kamikaze ideological onslaught. It is quite clear that we can never agree on all issues, but I only expect you guys to accept the fact that conservatives will always object to any Obama policy that is against their values. . . . . atleast this would ameliorate all the race card you guys are playing.

Republicans trying to get Obama killed?? Where do you folks live? In LoonieVille? 

Kobojunkie:

Republicans trying to get Obama killed?? Where do you folks live? In LoonieVille?

My brother can you imagine, it really baffles when I hear literate people making such insinuatuations. If they really want to get rid of Obama, it is quite easy, afterall some other USA president and high profile politicians have been killed or witnessed assasination attempts before.

They also forget that the US secret service probabaly has lots of Republicans protecting the president.