orisa37:
He was insane and actually brainless.

zzzzy:
Upon you typed " personal God , you still can't see it"
Btw remember when democritus brought the idea of atoms and then Aristotle (one of earth's greatest thinkers) declared it useless. No doubt he was a great thinker, but that doesn't mean hr couldn't be wrong

orisa37:
He was insane and actually brainless.

johnydon22:


If being sane and brainfull is being like you and having your types of belief then thank you, i'd love to be insane and brainless.

Have fun with your sanity and brain

winner01:
But Einstein did not deny the obvious like you and your peers do

lordnicklaus:
Albert Einstein was practically a deist. He believed in a creator who exerts no control over human affairs and nature.

johnydon22:


Einstein was a pantheist oo... Spinoza God calling nature God... hiaaan..

winner01:
Did he tell you that himself or do you just want to feel better? Cos he said this;
"I am not an atheist, and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist."

johnydon22:

Nope it's not Deism but pantheism or spinozaism.

Deism/theism are almost the same thing they include belief in a personal God [God(s) that can be referred to as a person- anthropomorphical Gods] - strictly what atheism rejects though. Only that a deist coins an indifferent deity.

Pantheism is still atheism in the basic sense because it rejects belief in personal Gods but rather uses the word "God" for the universe [nature]

lordnicklaus:

Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. hey, what about your blog?

johnydon22:


I have decided to do it thanks to you. I will contact you once i am ready to go. Have to buy a new laptop.

You have a lot of part to play in it...

johnydon22:
Spinoza God is Nature.... equating the entirety of nature [matter, thoughts] as God.. thats all.

That's broadly still atheistic

Reyginus:
Einstein was too smart to be an Atheist. A man of his reasoning can't. Accumulation is nothing. Thinking is nothing. Reasoning is key.

darkenedrebel:


I tell you. And to think Atheists consider themselves as enlightened. Enlightened my sooty, black arse. Enlightened people that show discernment only once in every 20 years. . Religion could arguably be the opium of the masses - especially when common sense has been sacrificed on the altar of religious fanaticism, but atheism is ten times worse than the worst form of religion.

If this message I'm sending to you did not happen by chance, but is of traceable provenance (my mind), then how logical is it for someone to wake up one bright morning, see the intricacies of the earth's geography; the seasons, time; the hills and mountains; the beautiful firmaments; and even the complexities of human brain, and then blindly chalk these all up to happenstances?. . . . .or that evolution drivel.

Even Leonardo Da Vinci asked to be given Viaticum while he was on his death bed. Like the IQs of these atheists can even measure up with a single strand of Da Vinci's nose-hair.

Reyginus:
I've come to realise a lot of Atheists have zero understanding of Philosophy. Intelligence on one subject is not knowledge of all subjects. I can even say the ratio of atheists ignorant is double that of theists

You see questions like 'if Christians claim that God created everything then who created God?'

And this is from a self acclaimed more intelligent mind. How can you ask such a question and still consider self sane in the subject of logic?

Some Christians also display this behaviour. The difference is, one, the atheist, claims to know too much, which I find ironic. You cannot know too much of our present world and still call yourself an atheist. Atheism as a position is a logical impossibility. Atheism can't exist

This arrogance is also embedded in all walks of life. For some reason, people think that knowledge of one field qualifies knowledge of other fields. The reason you see Professors and so called intellectuals vote Mr Buhari as President of a complex Nigeria

You guys are doing a good job. Almost every atheist here has a closed mind yet they talk about knowledge and enlightenment. I'm acting tautological now. Most atheists now fear that their wonderful atheism will be shattered. How do you shatter something that is logically impossible in the first place?

darkenedrebel:



We cannot even predict what would happen tomorrow, but that doesn't mean tomorrow isn't going to happen or become a reality. Same thing applies to God - that we cannot prove he exists doesn't disprove of his existence.

People need to begin to identify with fact that some things are just beyond the confines of human knowledge. When we accept the unknowability of certain phenomena, then we would see a cessation in these sort of questions.



@bolded__that's what I was saying yesterday. They know this, so they try to twist it to mean 'the absence of belief in God(s).



Like intelluatualism is even a criterium to hold a public office in Nigeria. If it were, then Pat Utomi should be the President.



My advise for atheists is to do some serious soul-searching; meditative omphaloskepsis if you will, and connect with their Maker.

They are lost souls!

malvisguy212:
you are right, But for what I observe,Albert Einstein equation of relativity, imply the universe has a beginning, einstein does not like this idea, he thought one would have to conclude that the universe was created by God. So he expend the equation and fail, he say " this is one of my worst mistake"

So, Einstein became a deist - a believer in an impersonal creator God:

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals
himself in the orderly harmony of what
exists, not in a God who concerns himself
with fates and actions of human beings."

Just as you're putting Einstein in the camp of atheism, others people do the same thing. Einstein complain bitterly for putting him in the same camp of atheism:

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can
call myself a pantheist. We are in the
position of a little child entering a huge
library filled with books in many languages.
The child knows someone must have written
those books. It does not know how. It does
not understand the languages in which they
are written. The child dimly suspects a
mysterious order in the arrangements of
the books, but doesn't know what it is. That,
it seems to me, is the attitude of even the
most intelligent human being toward God."

http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm

When ask about jesus and the Gospel, this is what he say :

"You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels
without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."
https://intellectualfroglegs.com/einstein-jesus/

Unlike atheist here on naraland, Einstein had a Great respect in jesus, many forum I have visit, I have never seen forum attack jesus soo much like nairalnad. Nigerian atheist are something els. They mention jesus (the man they hate) 90% in every bad word that comes out from their mouth, but they forget their is a man call muhammed. Hadmirrow hopefullandlord henn seun just name them.

Einstein stated: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things."

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms—it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

"The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naïve."

darkenedrebel:



We cannot even predict what would happen tomorrow, but that doesn't mean tomorrow isn't going to happen or become a reality. Same thing applies to God - that we cannot prove he exists doesn't disprove of his existence.

People need to begin to identify with the fact that some things are just beyond the confines of human knowledge. When we accept the unknowability of certain phenomena, then we would see a cessation in these sort of questions.



@bolded__that's what I was saying yesterday. They know this, so they try to twist it to mean 'the absence of belief in God(s).



Like intelluatualism is even a criterium to hold a public office in Nigeria. If it were, then Pat Utomi should be the President.



My advise for atheists is to do some serious soul-searching; meditative omphaloskepsis if you will, and connect with their Maker.

They are lost souls!

Reyginus:
I agree with you but it seems you didn't get that question. Look at what I mean. A person cannot ask what created that he admits created all in one sentence. You cannot ask 'if God created everything then what created him?'. It's a very dumb question to ask.

johnydon22:

Nope it's not Deism but pantheism or spinozaism.

Deism/theism are almost the same thing they include belief in a personal God [God(s) that can be referred to as a person- anthropomorphical Gods] - strictly what atheism rejects though. Only that a deist coins an indifferent deity.

Pantheism is still atheism in the basic sense because it rejects belief in personal Gods but rather uses the word "God" for the universe [nature]

darkenedrebel:


I tell you. And to think Atheists consider themselves as enlightened. Enlightened my sooty, black arse. Enlightened people that show discernment only once in every 20 years. . Religion could arguably be the opium of the masses - especially when common sense has been sacrificed on the altar of religious fanaticism, but atheism is ten times worse than the worst form of religion.

If this message I'm sending to you did not happen by chance, but is of traceable provenance (my mind), then how logical is it for someone to wake up one bright morning, see the intricacies of the earth's geography; the seasons, time; the hills and mountains; the beautiful firmaments; and even the complexities of human brain, and then blindly chalk these all up to happenstances?. . . . .or that evolution drivel.

Even Leonardo Da Vinci asked to be given Viaticum while he was on his death bed. Like the IQs of these atheists can even measure up with a single strand of Da Vinci's nose-hair.

wiegraf:
kayi