raphieMontella:

[s]if ur definition of spiritual is quantum physics or violating,,bending and manipulating laws of physics... I agree

u can be alive without eyes...
Organs dont define functiontivity...bt when these organs are dealt blows in fatal spots..u will die

believe me without a brain..ure as good as dead....literally

a television can have all its parts as u know it and not function...if a fundamental wire or switch or wah ever is spoilt or if fundamental parts of it become too old and weary and inevitably cease to function

liar liar vampire..

spirit or soul in a conscious-like manner is not exclusive to humans...so?

consciousness has never been linked away from the brain..

hian..is electricity spiritual?

is lightning a bolt of electricity or what? Are sparks electricity or what?
Baba what are u saying?

coincidences...people come back from the dead without the name of jesus

wait seriously are u in support of the bolded?
Men pschologically taking advantage of the feeble minds of little children?
The day a pastor or who-ever tries
this shvt with my child...is the day he signs his sentence to spend the rest of his life in jail

he fell down...the weight of the machine also inflicted some injuries i believe..
The fact that he sustained injuries frm the bike#falling and inevitably some from the bike..is enough to know something is wrong..
And not jst assigning it to the spiritual...
There's a plausible natural explanation if u had dug deep..

stories....stories...
Stepping on stroke medicines etc...fables...
Or have u done one to somebody? [/s]

thesicilian:


None taken.


No sir, I must assure you, I know what I am talking about. Agreed, a lot of tricksters exist among us, and those who are enlightened will not easily be swayed by the antics of these people.
I was at a time of a similar mindset as you currently are, until I began to see some if these things. For so many of them I desperately wanted to believe they were coincidental, but they just weren't.
I could tell you lots and lots of others, but its always better for you to experience them yourself.

KingEbukasBlog:


Ah my brother . You have said it all - nothing to expurgate , nothing to subsume . May God be with us all , Amen

4kings:

Can u state one that is very convincing.

thesicilian:

How do you define convincing? As long as you were not there its still going to sound suspicious to you, isn't it?

4kings:

Well, from your example, u did not know what went on with the patient u left and the mad man scenario is explainable.
If you tell me something out of the ordinary that u witnessed yourself, then atleast I would consider it. I am not an atheist but a freethinker, I consider all options.

thesicilian:

lol. Who is a free thinker? A free thinker is one who has not yet found his feet. Much like a passenger on a bus yet to reach his destination.
Fact is, every thing is 'explainable' . Even when you walk on water, people who weren't there would think there were rocks under the water you were stepping on.

4kings:

If everything is explainable according to u, what are the odds of yours being supernatural?
******
The idea behind freethinking is being[size=14pt] openminded[/size], and accepting issues based on reason or experience.

KingEbukasBlog:


The joke is on you .

4kings:

You've never considered any other idea outside christendom, how tf is the joke on me. Baba park well.

KingEbukasBlog:


exactly ! I accept I am close-minded on that but you claim to be open minded while you are intransigent about a non interventionist creator.

Do you see it ? If no , let me explain

You can't claim to be open minded and reject any evidence refuting your views about a non interventionist creator . And you surmise that your decision is rational because ? Conjectural conclusions are not worth anyone's attention

naijadeyhia:


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Nobody really bothers or breaks a sweat over hardmirror anymore especially since all he has to offer is personal hatred for anything and everything good. He is now the complete opposite in character from when he claimed he was a pastor which even that claim has come with absolutely zero proof....

I came and viewed the OP and saw its normal predictable content and just ignored it.

He believes nothing Of God is real. ..we believe it is Real...

He believes the supernatural is crap

We believe it is not but in all that God trumpts the rest

He believes that he was a fake pastor even when he claimed to be a pastor

Personally I concur because i have seen many fake pastors like him too...so no biggy

I do not really engage in all topics as I carefully assess that which is worth my time and intellectual contribution. ....no be by force


Bottom line. ...Life is all about Choices...you can choose to board a jet to europe or you can choose to brave the sea to enter as an illegal immigrant....All in all there is always a law governing both scenarios and the punishment does not change for anyone.

Nice thread OP...as you have succeeded in showing once again that your issues are personal and have nothing to do with God....fix your car and finish your journey in comfort....you were given a vessel that is not perfect but able to go through maintenance (if u so choose) it does not become the fault of the manufacturer when you abuse the vessel and still expect it to produce same result..... if you prayed and attempted casting out demons and it never worked then you up and declare a eureka moment that God is false then that is your problem because with every false prophet we see many real ones.

Your case is like that of a fly who thought itself strong and better than man simply because it has wings so decided to mock man at every turn because it just became a fly so the experience is new...older flies keep warning it via experience but it refuses to heed.....

Enjoy your fly moment while it lasts......Since you claim to be an ex pastor then you can help me with finishing my analogy...

The OP or anyone else should not quote me..

Ebuka my brother....life na choice...no be person wey gree say the thing wey dey the side of his head na ear na him go hear? Even person wey gree go still decide to use hand block am so e no go hear....Abi u don see where stone use im own hand baf before? Or where sand use im own leg change location from lagos to abuja?

My brother the bible has said it all...Let He that has an ear, hear what the spirit is saying.....

Goodnight![/size]

hopefuLandlord:


Video tricks bro

4kings:

If everything is explainable according to u, what are the odds of yours being supernatural?
******
The idea behind freethinking is being openminded, and accepting issues based on reason or experience.

thesicilian:

Where do I even begin!

HardMirror:
[size=32pt]I have prayed for the lame, the blind, the dumb and I have NEVER seen them healed. I have prayed for those with malaria, fever, headaches, pains and many of them got healed. I later discovered that even scientists can replicate the same results. [/size]

thesicilian:

I thought the sarcastic undertone was obvious from the way I used the term 'explainable' ?!

And when you say a free thinker accepts issues based on reason and experience, do you mean your own personal experience or that of others?

4kings:

Ok

That of others too.

hopefuLandlord:


Video tricks bro

HardMirror:
I won't waste time typing an epistle.

Money Rituals
You argue endlessly that blood money is real. Name the world billionaires that did money rituals

Have you seen how poor and wretched those who even sell the human parts are? Why sell a human head for as cheap as N5,000 when that head has potential of vomiting Millions or even Billions?

At least you have done a terrible thing by killing a fellow human, the least you can do is to at least sell the parts for more reasonable amount of money. Does this not tell you it's all a scam?

Ok ok, you have Heard stories of people turning to snake in hotel when they went to meet an "Alhaji" and the Alhaji used the lady for money rituals and she turned to a big snake with Human head. Such stories are only seen on cheap blogs and magazines, you don't see such an Epic story on Channels TV or AIT or BBC. You only Hear how many have you seen ? Have you ever seen evidence of people vomitting money as portrayed in Nollywood movies?

someone could be traffiking drugs and because he keeps his business secret rumors start to fly that such a person did "Blood money"


How more stuupid can people be?

Church Miracles

Now this is the most unfortunate one.
We can spend all year discussing this fraud called church miracles but I will make it simple.

In what situation does one need God's intervention and a miracle?
Definitely in situations where man is helpless.

Do I need prayers to get a wife? NO
Do I need a miracle to get a Job? NO

A Real need of miracle is to see amputated limbs grow not headaches cured.

A real need of a miracle is to demand a beheaded man be resurrected not someone in coma coming back from coma.

Why are people praising God? Where is the miracle?

With millions people who get one part or the other amputated every year, why is it that we don't see at least ONE just ONE amputee's limbs growing back just once in 10years?

But every sunday around the world hundreds of millions of christians are sharing testimonies of God's miracles Yet NOT ONE amputee even just once in 10 years!

Satanists

Oh yeah, the most deluded of the bunch. They believe satan gives them everything instantly unlike God. Lol
They claim they interact with demons
They claim they can travel out of their bodies.

YET no satanist can travel out of his body and go and deliver a message to another satanist just the way we pick up our phones and call friends to discuss. Or should we put it to the test? I give you a message and you use your astral projection to go and deliver the message accurately?
Not possible!
So why are there people who believe this Nonsense?
Human stupidity!

African Bullet proof!

It's astonishing that almost 99% of Nigerians believe this magic exists. Even highly supposedly educated intellectuals.

Wait a minute.

Do you know that we don't even have good herbalists in this generation compared to 100years ago when our forefathers were full blooded traditionalists?

When our local warriors where 100% soaked in Charms and voodoo?

Go back 100 years in african history and you will see how the Europeans came to Africa with their guns and razed down many of our villages and ancient cities including the Great Benin kingdom.

Where was the bullet proof charm? Did any European run back to Europe to tell tales of a people that bullet and knives could not penetrate?

If they experience such, trust me it would be part of the history we would be reading today.

Why are Governments spending Billions of Dollars to buy and develop bullet proof vests and vehicles?

Common sense is indeed not common.

damogul:
Must read

https://www.nairaland.com/3485930/exposing-hardmirror-tale-two-mirrors

EyeHateGod:
You do realize this didn't change anything ryt?

hopefulLandlord:


lol

he must be thinking he's done extreme damage, hence his spamming every thread

probably gives himself praises every morning

HardMirror:
I won't waste time typing an epistle.

Money Rituals
You argue endlessly that blood money is real. Name the world billionaires that did money rituals

Have you seen how poor and wretched those who even sell the human parts are? Why sell a human head for as cheap as N5,000 when that head has potential of vomiting Millions or even Billions? At least you have done a terrible thing by killing a fellow human, the least you can do is to at least sell the parts for more reasonable amount of money. Does this not tell you it's all a scam?

Ok ok, you have Heard stories of people turning to snake in hotel when they went to meet an "Alhaji" and the Alhaji used the lady for money rituals and she turned to a big snake with Human head. Such stories are only seen on cheap blogs and magazines, you don't see such an Epic story on Channels TV or AIT or BBC. You only Hear how many have you seen ? Have you ever seen evidence of people vomitting money as portrayed in Nollywood movies?

someone could be traffiking drugs and because he keeps his business secret rumors start to fly that such a person did "Blood money"


How more stuupid can people be?

Those Ritualists are only taking advantage of peoples ignorance. I will open a thread to fully discuss this scam later as I have a first hand experience.


Church Miracles

Now this is the most unfortunate one.
We can spend all year discussing this fraud called church miracles but I will make it simple.

In what situation does one need God's intervention and a miracle?
Definitely in situations where man is helpless.

Do I need prayers to get a wife? NO
Do I need a miracle to get a Job? NO

A Real need of miracle is to see amputated limbs grow not headaches cured.

A real need of a miracle is to demand a beheaded man be resurrected not someone in coma coming back from coma.

Why are people praising God? Where is the miracle?
With millions people who get one part or the other amputated every year, why is it that we don't see at least ONE just ONE amputee's limbs growing back just once in 10years?

But every sunday around the world hundreds of millions of christians are sharing testimonies of God's miracles Yet NOT ONE amputee even just once in 10 years!


Satanists

Oh yeah, the most deluded of the bunch. They believe satan gives them everything instantly unlike God. Lol
They claim they interact with demons
They claim they can travel out of their bodies.

YET no satanist can travel out of his body and go and deliver a message to another satanist just the way we pick up our phones and call friends to discuss. Or should we put it to the test? I give you a message and you use your astral projection to go and deliver the message accurately?
Not possible!
So why are there people who believe this Nonsense?
Human stupidity!

African Bullet proof!
It's astonishing that almost 99% of Nigerians believe this magic exists. Even highly supposedly educated intellectuals.
Wait a minute.
Do you know that we don't even have good herbalists in this generation compared to 100years ago when our forefathers were full blooded traditionalists?

When our local warriors where 100% soaked in Charms and voodoo?

Go back 100 years in african history and you will see how the Europeans came to Africa with their guns and razed down many of our villages and ancient cities including the Great Benin kingdom.

Where was the bullet proof charm? Did any European run back to Europe to tell tales of a people that bullet and knives could not penetrate?

If they experience such, trust me it would be part of the history we would be reading today.

Why are Governments spending Billions of Dollars to buy and develop bullet proof vests and vehicles?

Common sense is indeed not common.

felixomor:
Hmmmmmm.....

The Mirror. ...

HardMirror:
I won't waste time typing an epistle.

Money Rituals
You argue endlessly that blood money is real. Name the world billionaires that did money rituals

Have you seen how poor and wretched those who even sell the human parts are? Why sell a human head for as cheap as N5,000 when that head has potential of vomiting Millions or even Billions? At least you have done a terrible thing by killing a fellow human, the least you can do is to at least sell the parts for more reasonable amount of money. Does this not tell you it's all a scam?

Ok ok, you have Heard stories of people turning to snake in hotel when they went to meet an "Alhaji" and the Alhaji used the lady for money rituals and she turned to a big snake with Human head. Such stories are only seen on cheap blogs and magazines, you don't see such an Epic story on Channels TV or AIT or BBC. You only Hear how many have you seen ? Have you ever seen evidence of people vomitting money as portrayed in Nollywood movies?

someone could be traffiking drugs and because he keeps his business secret rumors start to fly that such a person did "Blood money"


How more stuupid can people be?

Those Ritualists are only taking advantage of peoples ignorance. I will open a thread to fully discuss this scam later as I have a first hand experience.


Church Miracles

Now this is the most unfortunate one.
We can spend all year discussing this fraud called church miracles but I will make it simple.

In what situation does one need God's intervention and a miracle?
Definitely in situations where man is helpless.

Do I need prayers to get a wife? NO
Do I need a miracle to get a Job? NO

A Real need of miracle is to see amputated limbs grow not headaches cured.

A real need of a miracle is to demand a beheaded man be resurrected not someone in coma coming back from coma.

Why are people praising God? Where is the miracle?
With millions people who get one part or the other amputated every year, why is it that we don't see at least ONE just ONE amputee's limbs growing back just once in 10years?

But every sunday around the world hundreds of millions of christians are sharing testimonies of God's miracles Yet NOT ONE amputee even just once in 10 years!


Satanists

Oh yeah, the most deluded of the bunch. They believe satan gives them everything instantly unlike God. Lol
They claim they interact with demons
They claim they can travel out of their bodies.

YET no satanist can travel out of his body and go and deliver a message to another satanist just the way we pick up our phones and call friends to discuss. Or should we put it to the test? I give you a message and you use your astral projection to go and deliver the message accurately?
Not possible!
So why are there people who believe this Nonsense?
Human stupidity!

African Bullet proof!
It's astonishing that almost 99% of Nigerians believe this magic exists. Even highly supposedly educated intellectuals.
Wait a minute.
Do you know that we don't even have good herbalists in this generation compared to 100years ago when our forefathers were full blooded traditionalists?

When our local warriors where 100% soaked in Charms and voodoo?

Go back 100 years in african history and you will see how the Europeans came to Africa with their guns and razed down many of our villages and ancient cities including the Great Benin kingdom.

Where was the bullet proof charm? Did any European run back to Europe to tell tales of a people that bullet and knives could not penetrate?

If they experience such, trust me it would be part of the history we would be reading today.

Why are Governments spending Billions of Dollars to buy and develop bullet proof vests and vehicles?

Common sense is indeed not common.

Lennycool:
Even most Nigerian intellectuals believe in the supernatural powers of native doctors. I just don't get it.
I blame it on Nollywood and the superstitious/religious society.