jiggaz:
What do you say to the parents of a Christian teenager who has just killed himself? I faced this situation several years ago and, I have tell you, it’s not easy. Premature death is hard to handle at any time but suicide leaves loved ones bewildered at its senselessness.

It seems the subject of suicide is one of those sensitive issues that Christians don’t like to talk about. That’s probably because most of us don’t have anything good to say! Ask a believer, “What happens to Christians who kill themselves?” and you’ll likely get one of the following responses:

1. They go to hell because they never repented for the sin of murder.

2. It’s not up to us to judge – we don’t know what happens
.
3. It’s a grave sin but God will somehow take care of it in his mysterious ways.

None of these responses brings much comfort to those who are left behind. But happily none of these responses is true! Let’s compare each response with what the Bible says.

What does the Bible say about those who commit suicide?

First, do people who commit suicide go to hell? Not if they’re saved. Revelations 21:8 tells us that the lake of fire – whatever that is – will be full of murderers. But you don’t end up in the lake of fire because you are a murderer (see Rev 20:15). If murder sent you to hell, King David would be a goner. But it doesn’t and he isn’t.

But didn’t God say, “Thou shalt not murder”? He did – it’s the sixth commandment and part of the law. Do you know what the penalty for law-breaking is? Jesus said anyone who breaks the law is in danger of hellfire (Mt 5:22). But his words were directed to those who were born under law – not you (Rm 6:14). When Jesus went to the cross he fulfilled the requirements of the law on your behalf so that you might live free from its curse. Don’t look at your own obedience for salvation; look at his. On the cross Jesus carried the sins of the world and now you are completely and eternally forgiven .

But what about repentance? Don’t we have to repent in order to receive forgiveness? Isn’t this the stumbling block for those who kill themselves – that they never repent? No. We are not forgiven on the basis of anything we do or don’t do. We are forgiven because of what Jesus has done:

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace. (Eph 1:7)

In God’s eyes you are forgiven whether you repent or don’t repent. To say, you must repent to be forgiven , is to cheapen the riches of His grace. The blood of Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world – including the unrepentant and suicidal (1 Jn 2:2). This isn’t to say that the whole world is saved, for we all need to respond to the grace of God by faith (Eph 2:. Everyone is forgiven but not everyone has received the gift of his righteousness (Rms 1:17). But we are talking here about people who are saved when they die.

Can a Christian nullify God’s forgiveness by committing suicide? No – it’s impossible. God’s gifts are irrevocable.
Second, to say, “we don’t know what happens to Christians who kill themselves” merely reveals an ignorance of God’s promises. We do know what happens. They go to be with Jesus (Jn 3:16, 14:3). Some say that “suicide is a grave sin.” Is there any sin that’s not?

The good news is that God’s grace is greater than our gravest sins; His best is better than our worst (Rms 5:20). Just as we are not qualified by our good deeds, neither are we disqualified by our bad (see Col 1:12). We were condemned by Adam’s disobedience but now we have been justified through Christ’s obedience:

So then, just as sin ruled by means of death, so also God’s grace rules by means of righteousness, leading us to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rms 5:21, GNB)

Third, to offer vague comfort by saying, “God will take care of it in some mysterious way,” is to insult the finished work of the cross. Take care of it? He already did! He came and died and rose again that we might have resurrection life:

“I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies.” (Jhn 11:25)

Look closely at this promise of Jesus and see if you can find any conditions pertaining to the means of death. There are none! The way in which you shrug off your earth-suit has absolutely no bearing on his promise of resurrection life. Whether you die in a house fire, from an over-dose, or go down with the Titanic, Jesus said, He who believes in me will live, even though he dies.

The main thing

For those who are left behind, suicide hits like a Mack truck. But allow me to bring some perspective to this issue. The single most important fact of your life is not where you were born or how you die, but whether you believe in Jesus – whether you have put your trust in him and confessed him as Lord.

You can be born a prince and die on a field of glory, but unless you know Jesus it’s all for naught. Conversely, you can be born a nobody and die a nobody but if Jesus knows you, all is eternally well! If you have lost someone to suicide and they belonged to Jesus, all is not lost! You will be with them again. Believe what God has promised and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

It is beyond the scope of this post to discuss those things that might drive a believer to suicide. Perhaps you find it inconceivable that someone acquainted with the goodness of God would ever consider ending their lives. But only God knows the depth of pain that some of our brothers and sisters have to endure in this world.

The teenager I mentioned at the top of this post took his own life because he was the ongoing victim of a sexual predator and he could see no other way out. Who am I to say that I would’ve chosen differently if I had been in his shoes? I’m not trying to justify suicide. I’m saying I can’t condemn those who, for reasons I cannot fathom, choose death over life.

It’s too late to help that young man but it’s not too late to comfort his parents and those of you who’ve lost loved ones to suicide. Maybe you have heard words of condemnation or hollow comfort. Maybe you’ve been be told that the one you lost is lost for eternity. If so, I encourage you to find rest in the grace of our loving Father and to cultivate the same conviction as Paul:

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rms 8:38-9)

https://escapetoreality.org/2011/07/04/what-happens-to-christians-who-commit-suicide/

SirWere:
Now this is intresting.


Scholar8200 ; do you agree with this??

solite3:
Will someone who is saved commit suicide? What for? If he commit suicide it means his faith is vain, the Christ who saved him was not able to save him now. My dear he is going straight to hell.
Once saved always saved is a false teaching from hell!
Any faith that cannot save you from committing sin cannot save you from hell

jiggaz:
morning

jiggaz:
morning

]Mr Hell Fire thank you....When was the last time you sinned? Or abi u dont sin now?

You might be in danger of Hell too you know....

lol . Since you are negating the finished work of Christ on the Cross and you want to add to what Christ did on the Cross, well carry go!!

But mind you, your self righteousness is a filthy rag before God. You people always condemn unbelievers & believers alike to hell and it stinks!!

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rms 8:38-9) If you don't like it, go and hug transformer!! Most of you hypocritical Christians are the reason people hardly embrace Christ, with all your do's and donts!! Christianity is not a religion neither is it about law keeping... its a relationship with Christ Jesus!!

I am for the Gospel of Grace cos its the true Gospel of Christ!! Thank God its now spreading all over the world!!

And lemme warn you and your kind ( Hpocrital-Pharisee-Judgemental Chrsitians ) STAY OFF MY POSTS!! Me and you people are not in the same category!! Stay off my posts if you don't want to see another side of me!! I am not nice to your kind... BE WARNED!!

jiggaz:
What do you say to the parents of a Christian teenager who has just killed himself? I faced this situation several years ago and, I have tell you, it’s not easy. Premature death is hard to handle at any time but suicide leaves loved ones bewildered at its senselessness.

It seems the subject of suicide is one of those sensitive issues that Christians don’t like to talk about. That’s probably because most of us don’t have anything good to say! Ask a believer, “What happens to Christians who kill themselves?” and you’ll likely get one of the following responses:

1. They go to hell because they never repented for the sin of murder.

2. It’s not up to us to judge – we don’t know what happens
.
3. It’s a grave sin but God will somehow take care of it in his mysterious ways.

None of these responses brings much comfort to those who are left behind. But happily none of these responses is true! Let’s compare each response with what the Bible says.

What does the Bible say about those who commit suicide?

First, do people who commit suicide go to hell? Not if they’re saved. Revelations 21:8 tells us that the lake of fire – whatever that is – will be full of murderers. But you don’t end up in the lake of fire because you are a murderer (see Rev 20:15). If murder sent you to hell, King David would be a goner. But it doesn’t and he isn’t.

But didn’t God say, “Thou shalt not murder”? He did – it’s the sixth commandment and part of the law. Do you know what the penalty for law-breaking is? Jesus said anyone who breaks the law is in danger of hellfire (Mt 5:22). But his words were directed to those who were born under law – not you (Rm 6:14). When Jesus went to the cross he fulfilled the requirements of the law on your behalf so that you might live free from its curse. Don’t look at your own obedience for salvation; look at his. On the cross Jesus carried the sins of the world and now you are completely and eternally forgiven .

But what about repentance? Don’t we have to repent in order to receive forgiveness? Isn’t this the stumbling block for those who kill themselves – that they never repent? No. We are not forgiven on the basis of anything we do or don’t do. We are forgiven because of what Jesus has done:

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace. (Eph 1:7)

In God’s eyes you are forgiven whether you repent or don’t repent. To say, you must repent to be forgiven , is to cheapen the riches of His grace. The blood of Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world – including the unrepentant and suicidal (1 Jn 2:2). This isn’t to say that the whole world is saved, for we all need to respond to the grace of God by faith (Eph 2:. Everyone is forgiven but not everyone has received the gift of his righteousness (Rms 1:17). But we are talking here about people who are saved when they die.

Can a Christian nullify God’s forgiveness by committing suicide? No – it’s impossible. God’s gifts are irrevocable.
Second, to say, “we don’t know what happens to Christians who kill themselves” merely reveals an ignorance of God’s promises. We do know what happens. They go to be with Jesus (Jn 3:16, 14:3). Some say that “suicide is a grave sin.” Is there any sin that’s not?

jiggaz:
@solite3 Mr Hell Fire plz stay off my posts. From the rubbish u posted up there, it is soo evident that you are soo ignorant about THE GOSPEL OF GRACE ...... You are preaching a mixed gospel ( grace + law )..... i don't even know where to start with you sef...

So please do yourself a favour and shift, we don't have anything to discuss Mr Self Righteous Pharisee...... And plz don't quote me again.... i am through with you.. i don't argue with your likes.. Whoever believes that what Christ did on the Cross is not enough and wants to add their filthy self righteous-dead-works to it will suffer the consequences here in dis world( go check out the consequences of falling from grace ).... This is a memo to all ye self righteous Pharisee

jiggaz:
@solite3 Mr Hell Fire plz stay off my posts. From the rubbish u posted up there, it is soo evident that you are soo ignorant about THE GOSPEL OF GRACE ...... You are preaching a mixed gospel ( grace + law )..... i don't even know where to start with you sef...

So please do yourself a favour and shift, we don't have anything to discuss Mr Self Righteous Pharisee...... And plz don't quote me again.... i am through with you.. i don't argue with your likes.. Whoever believes that what Christ did on the Cross is not enough and wants to add their filthy self righteous-dead-works to it will suffer the consequences here in dis world( go check out the consequences of falling from grace ).... This is a memo to all ye self righteous Pharisee

jiggaz:
What do you say to the parents of a Christian teenager who has just killed himself? I faced this situation several years ago and, I have tell you, it’s not easy. Premature death is hard to handle at any time but suicide leaves loved ones bewildered at its senselessness.

The good news is that God’s grace is greater than our gravest sins; His best is better than our worst (Rms 5:20).

Just as we are not qualified by our good deeds, neither are we disqualified by our bad (see Col 1:12). We were condemned by Adam’s disobedience but now we have been justified through Christ’s obedience:

So then, just as sin ruled by means of death, so also God’s grace rules by means of righteousness, leading us to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rms 5:21, GNB)

jiggaz:
What do you say to the parents of a Christian teenager who has just killed himself? I faced this situation several years ago and, I have tell you, it’s not easy. Premature death is hard to handle at any time but suicide leaves loved ones bewildered at its senselessness.

Third, to offer vague comfort by saying, “God will take care of it in some mysterious way,” is to insult the finished work of the cross. Take care of it? He already did! He came and died and rose again that we might have resurrection life:

“I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies.” (Jhn 11:25)

Look closely at this promise of Jesus and see if you can find any conditions pertaining to the means of death. There are none! The way in which you shrug off your earth-suit has absolutely no bearing on his promise of resurrection life. Whether you die in a house fire, from an over-dose, or go down with the Titanic, Jesus said, He who believes in me will live, even though he dies.

The main thing

For those who are left behind, suicide hits like a Mack truck. But allow me to bring some perspective to this issue. The single most important fact of your life is not where you were born or how you die, but whether you believe in Jesus – whether you have put your trust in him and confessed him as Lord.

You can be born a prince and die on a field of glory, but unless you know Jesus it’s all for naught. Conversely, you can be born a nobody and die a nobody but if Jesus knows you, all is eternally well! If you have lost someone to suicide and they belonged to Jesus, all is not lost! You will be with them again. Believe what God has promised and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

It is beyond the scope of this post to discuss those things that might drive a believer to suicide.

Perhaps you find it inconceivable that someone acquainted with the goodness of God would ever consider ending their lives. But only God knows the depth of pain that some of our brothers and sisters have to endure in this world.

The teenager I mentioned at the top of this post took his own life because he was the ongoing victim of a sexual predator and he could see no other way out.

Who am I to say that I would’ve chosen differently if I had been in his shoes? I’m not trying to justify suicide. I’m saying I can’t condemn those who, for reasons I cannot fathom, choose death over life.

It’s too late to help that young man but it’s not too late to comfort his parents and those of you who’ve lost loved ones to suicide.

Maybe you have heard words of condemnation or hollow comfort. Maybe you’ve been be told that the one you lost is lost for eternity. If so, I encourage you to find rest in the grace of our loving Father and to cultivate the same conviction as Paul:

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rms 8:38-9)

jiggaz:
Mr Hell Fire thank you....When was the last time you sinned? Or abi u dont sin now? You might be in danger of Hell too you know.... lol . Since you are negating the finished work of Christ on the Cross and you want to add to what Christ did on the Cross, well carry go!!

But mind you, your self righteousness is a filthy rag before God. You people always condemn unbelievers & believers alike to hell and it stinks!! John 3:16 is the real Gospel not your man made doctrines!! All of you are hypocrites!! You people commit the worst sins in secret and come to the open to claim Holy!! You all stink!! Modern day Pharisees and Jesus was always harsh with your kind during his days!!

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rms 8:38-9) If you don't like it, go and hug transformer!! Most of you hypocritical Christians are the reason people hardly embrace Christ, with all your do's and donts!! Christianity is not a religion neither is it about law keeping... its a relationship with Christ Jesus!!

I am for the Gospel of Grace cos its the true Gospel of Christ!! Thank God its now spreading all over the world!!

And lemme warn you and your kind ( Hpocrital-Pharisee-Judgemental Chrsitians ) STAY OFF MY POSTS!! Me and you people are not in the same category!! Stay off my posts if you don't want to see another side of me!! I am not nice to your kind... BE WARNED!!

Janeyinspires:



jiggaz!!??

jiggaz:
Lool Good evening Janey.. plz disregard that post. That was an old post and am no longer like that.

When i first brought the Gospel of Grace here newly, i have so many opposition and it was mostly Christians that oppose me. I was very angry that my fellow Christians were condemning the Gospel of Christ while unbelievers are embracing it. I then became harsh & almost savage to them lol. I even threatened to beat one of them up!! hahahaaaa.... i was so pissed by their self righteousness and holier than thou attitude... lol.

But later, i began asking myself questions, that the Gospel is shared in love not by force or violence... I asked the Holy Spirit to calm me down because i have a problem with temper when am challenged on what i know lol So what i normally do to avoid all that confrontation is dat i ignore and it works. I don't reply negative comments no more. I only reply positive ones. The world is a big place and we are all different in our understanding, so its okay for people to have contrary opinion.

Nowadays, i just post the article and let the Holy Spirit do His work. I don't reply negative comments again. I am calm now lol. So my dear, plz disregard that post, its the old me. I don't curse or threaten Believers who have a different revelation from me. The Holy Spirit gave me wisdom to deal with my temper, so dats why i run solo here on this religious section. I don't comment on others posts and i don't reply negative comments no more....

I hope you are basking in the Love of Christ... Happy Sunday dear.

Janeyinspires:



Lol,Loler,Lolest...you got me wondering up there.This is hard for some people to take.......I'm all basking in the unsearchable riches of Christ.May I PM you?