[quote author=Vastjoy post=49041058]I stayed in Awo throughout my undergraduate days and I supported virtually all the actions taken then by my Amirs. I remembered how we tried to stop Awo boys from watching porn at TV room every Friday nights.[/quote mono break incident? I remember that unpleasant event in 2005 or 6 through the use of violence, that is the religion of peace indeed, with the alias having cutlasses to enforce their own believe.]

What are they going to do about it if she did

handsomeclouds:

You don't need to scream here.
Go there in person and tell them without fear nor favour that they are ISIS wannabes.
Thank me later.
Note: Having a formidable force is never equal to terrorism. An Insult on a group's personality won't be greeted with handshake. Especially this kinda comparison!

daretodiffer:
It cannot be refuted by the original MSSN group. This group should have been disbanded ande when they started. Their leaders should have been sent to imprison for this madness. I hope they are watching them because I won't put mass suicide past them. Thy need to be called what they are. They are terrorists! And they are gaining ground fast in our tertiary institutions.

what? I don't get you.. You mean mssn is a terrorist group or what?

So en don reach this level abi...
So the OAU muslim Community is now crying extremism....those babas and their lies

This article is full of shits...
No extremist in any of the Oau mosques..

There has always been a major issue with Oau mssn chapter,the school community and the general mssn
The OAU chapter always follows the Hadith in selecting their leaders...the Muslim community wants it to democratically contested.hence why you have two different excos...
Its not about extremism

I pray Almighty Allah help them resolve it sha....

During my student days at the university of Ibadan in 2008, my room was directly above the mosque in Nnamdi Azikwe hall. one morning, I was awake during the early morning prayer so I could hear them from my room. The sermon I heard that day was scary, it was totally out of place and outright fanatical. I was scared that the students would arise from their prayer ground and attack Christians. To be frank also, some pastors preach anti-islam messages too which should not be so

Everyone should be free to have their own set of beliefs without anyone calling people infidels or unbelievers

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I remember Diamond leading Awo boys with stones stick bottles to Awo cafe...

pepigeorge:
I wish western world wud exercise the same animalistic tendencies of this regious fanatics and wipe them all off the face of this earth, send dem to their paradise. . So dey can leave us in peace in this earth......

This useless religion has brought us more sorrow than good on earth..... I pray Donald Trump wins.... then send this fvckers to their paradise of hell

Are you really a human being or some kind if alien to have written this nonsense?

MSSN is not a terrorist group but there is a muslim group that is a terrorist group. MSSN has reported them over and over again and no one is doing anything about it

eitsei:
what? I don't get you.. You mean mssn is a terrorist group or what?

If at all there will be any religious uprising in the south west it will start from Osun state,but God no go gree una

These guys have mind oh. Imagine a student invited by Dean of student affairs and the students sending text message that they have test to write, this is insult of the highest order. In uniben Security alone can invite you even when you have exam and you dare not miss it let alone Dean of student affairs! !, you wil just face disciplinary committee immediately.

darecool:

Are you really a human being or some kind if alien to have written this nonsense?

for hitting the nail on the head?

There are extremists in OAU. They are basically those who wants to hijack MSSN.

emperorscoon:
So en don reach this level abi...
So the OAU muslim Community is now crying extremism....those babas and their lies

This article is full of shits...
No extremist in any of the Oau mosques..

There has always been a major issue with Oau mssn chapter,the school community and the general mssn
The OAU chapter always follows the Hadith in selecting their leaders...the Muslim community wants it to democratically contested.hence why you have two different excos...
Its not about extremism

I pray Almighty Allah help them resolve it sha....

modath:


When you cure your ignorance about a sect you either know nothing about or are partial to, quit jumping like benbella into my mentions.... I didn't ask for your opinion about my opinion.. shift!!!

Okay

Those guys were never student.

daretodiffer:

There are extremists in OAU. They are basically those who wants to hijack MSSN.

And who is trying to hijack the MSSN
Maybe you don't know but it's actually those babas that claims to be the Muslim community...

*main:* From MSSNOAU to all Stalites, Freshers, friends and well-wishers within and outside OAU Campus

MADAM D.S.A AND HER “BROTHELS”,
A RESPONSE.

In a five page sheets of nausea issued from the Madam, Acting Dean of the DSA this afternoon (Dr. G.O Akinola), she claimed, after paragraphs of ambiguities and name-calling, that the well-known and well-visited Awo and Faj hall mosque is “running a brothel”, breeding prostitution.
Though we never expect nothing less from the DSA, but we never know it will stoop this low. We wonder if any sense of honour remains in the heart controlling the hand that penned that release. For it calls to mind baffling questions already begging for answers, not to talk of the shock and rage the association of “prostitution” with two hall mosques, a religious space, is certainly going to provoke.

HER VISIT TO THE HALL MOSQUES
What provoked this laughable accusations, we were told in her release, was her visit to the Hall mosques two days ago.
Clearly naive, she went into the mosque from the male side and started banging on the door from that side, in the name of knocking, in a bid to gain access to the female side. The ridiculousness of the situation was clearly manifest in the slowness of the sisters from their section of the mosque to open the door she was knocking, for they are not used to sudden knocks on their door from the brother's side at any other time except during the time for academic tutorials and arabic classes which have fixed times.
So they were slow to open the door, and when it was eventually opened and Madam DSA barged in, the only explanation she could give was that these sisters were slow to open the door because they are prostitutes, and the mosque where we all worship our lord, she claims, is where they ply their trade!
Her entry was just the beginning of an ugly story.
We have seen this, and before we see more, we are challenging her to employ all the might in her possession to bring out subtantive evidence that there are brothels in the mosques and that it is breeding prostitutes. The honour of multitudes she is dallying with will not leave unchecked!
But that aside, her whole bundle of papers need dissection, for it is rare to find such a concentration of falsehoods and inaccuracies that have been managed to be packed into five sheets:
1. On her claim that “students who wanted to impose themselves and their doctrines which are not consistent with the constitution of MSSN Members caused issues at the inauguration” at the central mosque.

Her first obvious collision with the truth was this – And it shows her complete ignorance of the details of this issues before delving into it or a deliberate and mischievous effort to turn the while story upside down.
Even the most passive Muslim student on this campus knows the true story of what led to the “inauguration” fracas, and we all know the elderly initiator and sole participant to initiate the disturbance that day. She would be kind to tell us if it is a sin to raise your hand to ask a question at an open gathering or if the elder flying at the questioner with the aim of trying to tear him into shreds justify the act of trying to impose executives on thousands of mature students who are capable of steering their own affairs.

The DSA hasn’t made its research enough despite the surplus sources of information as regards what really happened at the central mosque that day. We can only say she has only chosen to get her info from where she wishes clearly. An evidence that was witnessed by hundreds of students can never be written away by a few lines with her manufactured version. The while world knows who really caused the issue. Madam, you are not writing for imbeciles to read. Video records abound.

2. On her insistence on “a week to be given to permit the group interact with the Mainstream MSSN and settle their disagreement”

Our records of meetings with her rather shows her insistence of solving i

From MSSNOAU to all Stalites, Freshers, friends and well-wishers within and outside OAU Campus
BOKOHARAM IN OAU!!!

Quoting the statement from the Acting Dean of students’ affairs;
“…emergence on the OAU campus of an extremist group of Muslim students in a fashion similar to the current Boko Haram insurgency besetting Nigeria”
Firstly, Boko Haram is an extremist group which derives its name from “western education is forbidden”. They are a notorious group known for violence and killings. We don’t expect someone like her, supposedly with a high intellectual capability and a capable administrator, to swallow such an allegation being given to her by some people of troublesome intention and making it public without investigation. Has she forgotten we are students of this western education which is preached against by Boko Haram.
· We also expect her to have consulted the security outfit of the university according to protocol mandating them to carry out a comprehensive investigation into the allegation with concrete evidence and coming out with a valid report to substantiate the allegation.

· We also expect her to address the issue of Boko Haram, and other issues being raised firstly as a mother herself by asking from the person(s) being alleged, this coupled with being put into a position to cater for the welfare of students, demands that she conducts investigation and bring substantive proof that Boko Haram is existing on OAU campus. By her not doing this, it shows she is biased, bigoted and for reasons known only to her, looking for a dog to tag a bad name.

Now, she has labelled us as “Boko Haram” because the Muslim students on OAU campus resisted the imposition of “unrecognized parallel executives’ being selected by part of the Muslim Community (A body composed of the University’s teaching and non-teaching staff) with the backing of some external intruders just like NASU/SSANU refused and resisted the past administration to impose a leader on them.
Now, can we say the struggle of the unions on OAU campus to bring in this present administration which she is also part of implies they (the unions) are also Boko Haram?
Knowing that she is aware of what Boko Haram means to this country and she refused to convey the information to the appropriate security apparatus of the Federal government of Nigeria, it shows she is an accomplice to the conspiracy.
On this note, sincere advice is being given to this Acting Dean to extricate herself from the embrace of bigotry and dogmatism. Our society and community will be henceforth better for it.
Cc:
Vice Chancellor
Registrar
Chief Security Officer
Division of Student Affairs

Berbierklaus:

So you support extremism/Fanatism?

Breeding the likes of ISIS/BOKOHARAM when they should be cut off?

@bolded link

What evidence do you have for this? Other than this article which I read first hand myself and knew right away had no single truth in it.
People trying to defame others with the boko haram tag is nothing new. Some unknown set of people tried it with 2 brothers of mine, attaching the boko haram tag to them cos they know it's a sore spot for everyone.


How does not supporting the closure of the mosque equal to supporting extremism.

daretodiffer:
MSSN is not a terrorist group but there is a muslim group that is a terrorist group. MSSN has reported them over and over again and no one is doing anything about it

which group is that?

Redoil:
Reddlabel i see you

Islam is satanic, Mohammed was demonic, imams and alfas are demonising.

From MSSNOAU to all Stalites, Freshers, friends and well-wishers within and outside OAU Campus

MADAM D.S.A AND HER “BROTHELS”,
A RESPONSE.

In a five page sheets of nausea issued from the Madam, Acting Dean of the DSA this afternoon (Dr. G.O Akinola), she claimed, after paragraphs of ambiguities and name-calling, that the well-known and well-visited Awo and Faj hall mosque is “running a brothel”, breeding prostitution.
Though we never expect nothing less from the DSA, but we never know it will stoop this low. We wonder if any sense of honour remains in the heart controlling the hand that penned that release. For it calls to mind baffling questions already begging for answers, not to talk of the shock and rage the association of “prostitution” with two hall mosques, a religious space, is certainly going to provoke.

HER VISIT TO THE HALL MOSQUES
What provoked this laughable accusations, we were told in her release, was her visit to the Hall mosques two days ago.
Clearly naive, she went into the mosque from the male side and started banging on the door from that side, in the name of knocking, in a bid to gain access to the female side. The ridiculousness of the situation was clearly manifest in the slowness of the sisters from their section of the mosque to open the door she was knocking, for they are not used to sudden knocks on their door from the brother's side at any other time except during the time for academic tutorials and arabic classes which have fixed times.
So they were slow to open the door, and when it was eventually opened and Madam DSA barged in, the only explanation she could give was that these sisters were slow to open the door because they are prostitutes, and the mosque where we all worship our lord, she claims, is where they ply their trade!
Her entry was just the beginning of an ugly story.
We have seen this, and before we see more, we are challenging her to employ all the might in her possession to bring out subtantive evidence that there are brothels in the mosques and that it is breeding prostitutes. The honour of multitudes she is dallying with will not leave unchecked!
But that aside, her whole bundle of papers need dissection, for it is rare to find such a concentration of falsehoods and inaccuracies that have been managed to be packed into five sheets:
1. On her claim that “students who wanted to impose themselves and their doctrines which are not consistent with the constitution of MSSN Members caused issues at the inauguration” at the central mosque.

Her first obvious collision with the truth was this – And it shows her complete ignorance of the details of this issues before delving into it or a deliberate and mischievous effort to turn the while story upside down.
Even the most passive Muslim student on this campus knows the true story of what led to the “inauguration” fracas, and we all know the elderly initiator and sole participant to initiate the disturbance that day. She would be kind to tell us if it is a sin to raise your hand to ask a question at an open gathering or if the elder flying at the questioner with the aim of trying to tear him into shreds justify the act of trying to impose executives on thousands of mature students who are capable of steering their own affairs.

The DSA hasn’t made its research enough despite the surplus sources of information as regards what really happened at the central mosque that day. We can only say she has only chosen to get her info from where she wishes clearly. An evidence that was witnessed by hundreds of students can never be written away by a few lines with her manufactured version. The while world knows who really caused the issue. Madam, you are not writing for imbeciles to read. Video records abound.

2. On her insistence on “a week to be given to permit the group interact with the Mainstream MSSN and settle their disagreement”

Our records of meetings with her rather shows her insistence of solving issues amicably with the Muslim Community rather than the so called ”Mainstream MSSN”(whatever that means, unless the MC is now the Mainstream MSSN) as she claims.

However, this also points to her ignorance of the issue on ground. A week or not, she seem not to realize, or have deliberately closed her eyes to the glaring fact before, during and after the “Inauguration” saga that the MC she is sending us to convince within a week to persuade to come back to its senses is not ready to shift grounds on its decision to forcefully impose a minute set of faceless mischievous students on the generality of OAU Muslim students as leaders at any cost.
We will ask her if it is that easy to convince an antagonist to a truce, when he is even ready for a dialogue, within a week, not to talk of one who is not ready for one in the foreseeable future, if ever. Anyway, posterity will record us a making an attempt in her one week of ordering us to take a camel through the eye of a needle and at our last meeting with her, that is on 31st August we reported to her that the camel won’t bulge to even move not to talk of passing it through the eye of a needle.

3. On her claim that the two hall mosques are being used for “ anti-mainstream MSSN rhetorics and doctrinal disagreement on campus, including recruitment of students for their separate teachings”
At this juncture, it becomes clear that the Acting Dean must be having a hidden personal stake in this brightening embers, for she has been seen fanning it.
Our advice to her is not take this issue personal, for when it grows beyond her purview, only God knows how many she will answer to.
In short, we call on her to produce evidence of recruitment going on at the two mosques! Her failure to do so guarantees her a place in the hall of liars, at the corner of those known with producing blatant lies.

4. On her mention of suggesting closure of the mosques while we go and reach agreement on “doctrinal or worship issues”.
What does she know about the doctrines and mode of worship in Islam?
Our many meeting with her usually put us at a disadvantage on some issues regarding Islam simply because of her inability to grasp the meaning of some simple Islamic concepts, even despite her claim agelong purported Muslim affiliations.

5. On the “report” she claimed came to her that a “religious programme” is being planned to be held in Awolowo Hall Cafeteria the following Day (i.e 28th August, 2016).
We wonder the idle individual or individuals who gave her the highly unnecessary “report” that a programme that has been holding every Sunday at that venue decades before her appointment as the Acting Dean will also holds on the 28th. If not being having a mischievous agenda, sponsored or wholly her own, she’d not suddenly develop a ridiculous suspicion towards an open and peaceful programme already well known to both Muslims and Christians on this campus.

6. On her claim that we sent a text message to the DSA that we’d all be having a “continuous assessment tests from 10am to 5pm on the 31st August” to avoid meeting with her.
This is either a calculated twisting of the facts on this or an innocent misreading of our text message, which since her motives is now getting clearer, we will only be too glad to explain to her again.
No test of any nature will hold from 10am to 5pm on this campus and she very well knows that. How she concluded that the that the text message mentioning that “our” tests which (collectively) is referring to various brothers that will be participating at the meeting having their various tests in their various department at different times between 10am and 5pm of the 31st of August can be misread beats the imagination.
The wordings of the text message sent to her (through the Vice-Dean):
“Good evening sir, we request the meeting should be shifted as some of us will be having tests at that time and will be finishing around 5pm, we want to know when it will be convenient for you. Thanks…

7. On her bizarre claim of girls being “locked” “in a room” in the mosque “by their leaders.”
The locked room being referred to by this forever baffling Acting Dean is the entrance to the female section of the mosque. On this, we don’t find it surprising that she is even unaware of the plain and common fact that Muslims have separate places of worship sectioned separately for males and females in all mosques, since we have witnessed her other blunders regarding her familiarity with Islam.

8. On her claim that the said girls she met in their side of the mosque are “locked” there by their leaders, we have nothing to say except
“…supplicate earnestly and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars” Qur’an 3 vs 61.

9. On her strange admission of finding girls at the mosque “during lecture hours”.
We wonder if everybody on campus have the same lecture hours that dictates everybody be at lectures at the exactly the same time? So it really gives one mental agony seeing how she’s making an issue of finding them at the mosque when they should be in her own defined “lecture hours”. Does their lack of a lecture at that time and their presence in the mosque at that time justify calling them prostitutes!!! Acting dean!!!

10. She said there is a practice of “harboring girls in rooms within the mosques”.
We’ll be glad to see her point again to the female side of the mosque where the females perform their daily acts of worship as the room where “harboring girls in the mosques” is going on. The world will be glad for the laugh.

11. Even as ID cards were obligingly giving to her, this jesting Madam pulled up her dishonorable conclusions out of thin air.
Our hasty acting dean shoots herself in the leg after implying our sisters are in their side of the mosque performing immoral action by admitting she obtained ID cards, obligingly, from all of them except one who wasn’t with hers and was vouched for by a brother.
We want to ask if girls that she says don’t “go to lectures” at “lecture hours”, girls that have been “locked” in by her manufactured “their leaders” and are plying the trade of prostitution in the Mosques use for worship of the lord will obligingly hand over their active ID cards to her if they have something to hide?
Madam D.S.A came to the Mosque on an agenda, no doubt, and the scapegoat she thought will be slaughtered after a chase turned out to be human afterall, and they, to her chagrin, came to her slaughter slab without a fight. The knife falls.
We are waiting for her proofs (hard one) that they are conducting prostitution in the Mosque where we all pray, and how career prostitutes who are locked up managed to obtain the school ID card under her nose.

Extremist cell? If GOD be for us,who can be against us? no fvcking 1.

daretodiffer:
It cannot be refuted by the original MSSN group. This group should have been disbanded ande when they started. Their leaders should have been sent to imprison for this madness. I hope they are watching them because I won't put mass suicide past them. Thy need to be called what they are. They are terrorists! And they are gaining ground fast in our tertiary institutions.

What do you know about it?

There is supposedly extremism and boko haramism and prostitution going on the mosque which there is no evidence for, so let's close the mosque where the Muslim student body living in the halls of residence pray perfectly makes sense.

Let me ask what the extremism is, your evidence and all you know about this.


I pray at Awo mosque, I haven't come across any extremism unless you count sisters wearing niqab for whatever reason or from personal conviction extremism. Or probably the Quran, arabic and fiqh classes and Sunday MSSN programmes is what is terrorism and extremism.
There is certainly no prostitution or whatever BS mentioned in the article going on. Obviously the mosque has a partition between the male and female side. The DSA came in through the male side and knocked on the connecting door btw the two sides,and met some sisters staying in the mosque and asked for their ID cards, without any chance given to say anything or reason for that, then they brought up their sensationalized lies ridden article, four sisters in the female side became a dozen sisters locked in a room by some 'leaders'and prostitution allegations

This issues have been on ground for years. MC against MSSN and other stuffs we hear about.




Or I'm probably not getting your POV

Naira landers, am sure OAU students and staff are part, please let's hear objective views on the issues! 1. The Constitution guarantees the right of religion within the laws, so who knows more about this case, who can find out more about this case?

The school needs to simply rusticate any female student who insists on staying in a male hostel together with her host.!

obayaya:
How were these students allowed to operate mosques in the halls of residence in the first place?

I care less about their teachings. But having "mosques" in the hall of residence is illegal.

I wonder how they were allowed to continue for so long.

Christians also worship in halls of residence. Fellowships hold services in both faj cafe/reading room and annex television room. Christians have a vast number of house fellowship secretariats within the halls of residence and they(male and female) usually have closed door meetings even during odd hour. Also, on Sundays and during week days(evening) they occupy virtually all lecture rooms. Albeit, I am a Christian and I believe religious tolerance and understanding is needed by all and sundry.

Tolexander:
Very good step!

These people are religious cultists and have made the Awo and Faj mosques cafes their asylum.

Any steps taken against their ideology by the school authority or students, you see them grouping, regrouping and reinforcing from these "mosques", most especially the one in Awo Hall eg "Mojo" break in 2006.

The way the 2 mosques are set(typical of Nairaland Islamic section) by these religious ideological group has made the places separate communities on campus and calls for closure.

True. A very welcome move.
Though a Muslim myself...but I remember during my undergraduate days in Oau Ife, most of these guys had a crooked religious ideology, nd dey had this caucus of a ting, if u weren't rily wit their ideology, they will trit u as an heretic.
Most often, when it comes to leading prayers, they hardly allowed non-causus members to lead prayers. They had this believe that they were the "model Muslims", hence they are the most appropriate in leading prayers. I remembered myself dissociating from a couple of friends who were overwhelmed by the crooked ideology, nd began to trit me as if I was an outcast...all because I was liberal, nd didn't agree with several of there ways. Well I was myself all through.
....I support the move.

obayaya:
How were these students allowed to operate mosques in the halls of residence in the first place?

I care less about their teachings. But having "mosques" in the hall of residence is illegal.

I wonder how they were allowed to continue for so long.

what abt fellowship Secretariat in hall of residence

Daud2:
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANTI_ISLAMIC ELEMENT IN THIS PLATFORM TO SIMPLY ATTACK ISLAM IGNORANTLY. ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION

I can't quantify how SAD I am by this development

alsudaes1:


I can't quantify how SAD I am by this development

pls don't b sad, it will soon tired the Muslim community. those baba r the one having problem

Tolexander:
Very good step!

These people are religious cultists and have made the Awo and Faj mosques cafes their asylum.

Any steps taken against their ideology by the school authority or students, you see them grouping, regrouping and reinforcing from these "mosques", most especially the one in Awo Hall eg "Mojo" break in 2006.

The way the 2 mosques are set(typical of Nairaland Islamic section) by these religious ideological group has made the places separate communities on campus and calls for closure.

bros I sight you.good day good broda.great ife to the core.primary school to university all great ife.princenico of oracle board dey hail u so!