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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:11pm On May 28, 2018
Real Madrid academy groundbreaking ceremony today.

Barcelona opened an academy in Lagos last year, Real Madrid is opening today in port-Harcourt.

Let the EL-Classico continue. cheesy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 10:35pm On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Is there benefit painting the trees white?

doubt it, i think it's just for aesthetic purposes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:37pm On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Are you kiddin? Makoko? Even gallivant agreed that while we are slowly eliminating Kibera, you will need an intercontinental ballistic missile to get rid of Makoko.

Makoko is very insignificant as it contains less than 1% of the population of Lagos and the majority of it has been destroyed. So, it is inconsequential and completely indescriptive of the living conditions of the poor people of Lagos.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 11:06pm On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


I just think u r albino and thats how its going to be dude! I dont think twice !

What does your darkness stand for? precisely

your soul is already too corrupted to understand....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:15pm On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-40-22.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-39-55.png?w=980[/img]

It runs in the night too

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[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-36-23.png?w=980[/img]
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[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-38-18.png?w=980[/img]

Do you doubt the cable cars too?

Is this guy called TayserMahiri without any iota of shame? Just see how you keep being proved and disproved here over again and again.

Now that he has showed you pics of people boarding the train, what else do you need?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:28pm On May 28, 2018
Nowenuse:


Makoko is very insignificant as it contains less than 1% of the population of Lagos and the majority of it has been destroyed. So, it is inconsequential and completely indescriptive of the living conditions of the poor people of Lagos.
it's even a fishing community, it's on water and not land. People living there are mostly fishermen. But the state govt is demolishing that community cos it's an eyesore when commuting from the mainland to the island via third mainland bridge.

What will be the fate of those fishermen at d end of the day?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:36pm On May 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Nigeria is 190M strong; Kenya is merely 48M; so you don't expect Kenya to have the same number of cities as Nigeria. Obviously you'd need to compare Nigeria with entire East Africa (Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda,TZ and Kenya) - total pop should roughly be equal to Nigeria or less - and you'll know East Africa has way more and bigger cities than Nigeria.

As far as Kenya goes - we have cities & towns - that though smaller - are more modern & liveable. You got mega slums. If Nigeria was half decent - you'd be talking of about 30 cities - real cities!


Nigeria has more than 30 cities with at least 500,000 people.
What do you mean real cities? What is the definition of a city?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:42pm On May 28, 2018
Nowenuse:


Is this guy called TayserMahiri without any iota of shame? Just see how you keep being proved and disproved here over again and again.

Now that he has showed you pics of people boarding the train, what else do you need?
I think this thread is full of hypocrisy on the Kenyans side. Since they're not truthful with themselves, u wouldn't expect them to trust others.

Notice when Nigerians post things here, they're quick to google search it's genuineness but if they post theirs, Nigerians don't really bother to confirm, and if checked, it's always false.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:46pm On May 28, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Thankfully when somebody lands in Nairobi or Mombasa and wants to see what Kenyan slums look like, they have to request to be taken to Kibera. Meanwhile in Nigeria such things are non existent.............you land and you see a slum. You don't have to request to be taken anywhere.

Did you know that Lamu is older than both Kano and Ibadan? Did you know that some of these beautiful Lamu buildings are older than those Ibadan and Kano eyesores?


Why are you showing us a city built by arabs? Show us the ones built by black Africans. That's what we are interested in.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 12:03am On May 29, 2018
kikuyu1:


Haiyyyya!? This is the first I'm hearing about a major project. My goodness! http://mwalemedicalandtechnologycity.com/Home.html



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mwale_Medical_and_Technology_City

DANGOTELANDERS,SEE REAL DEVELOPMENT AND PROGRESS WITH INVESTORS AND LOCALS HAND IN HAND MOVING FORWARD WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING FAILED MONO RAILS AND WAITING FOR YOUR KING TO PAY FOR YOUR SUYA! BEHOLD!
Yes,that's a CGI but if its not standing in 2020,I know we'll be here to discuss.
here's what I found about ur mwale or whatever.

He's a fraud and not a businessman.
Mr Mwale, the proprietor of Mwale Medical and Technology City in Butere, is accused of having issued bad cheques to contractors, amounting to Sh22 Million.

In his defence, Mwale stated that his lawyers compelled him to write the cheques even after he had disputed the amount demanded by the contractors.

The controversial businessman is said to be behind a project to build a Sh200 Billion mall in the Western Kenya town.
government warns building plans of Mwale Medical and Technology City have never been approved.
at least, Dangote is not a fraud.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:03am On May 29, 2018
rvp20182:
For Nigeria size of economy - allegedly - the amount of machinery+equipment+plant (Or maybe BUHARI-DANGOTE is manufacturing them now smiley - they would need to import annually would be around 100B dollars - but right now they are struggling to import wheat+rice smiley from the little that Shell-BP gives them (10-15$B) and whatever else the diaspora send(10-15$B). That is all there is in Nigeria economy - it's KAPUT. Remove Oil and remove diaspora remittance - and the thing is dead as dodo.That is why Nigerians are risking everything to sail to Europe and even poor country like Kenya is heaven to them.

The next export they have is coca nuts - which is worth 10% of what Ghana & Ivory coast do - I think slightly about 300M dollars grin grin Then rubber;maybe some shrimps and I guess that is about it smiley

Kikuyu1

You guys are nothing but shameless haters whose cries about the Nigerian economy will not change nor stop us from being recognized as the largest economy in Africa with the largest middleclass population.

Around 40million Nigerians are middleclass citizens.

Add the middleclass population of the entire east africa, it still is not up to that of Nigeria.
Add the population of the top 10 largest middleclass population from different countries in Africa, it is still barely that of Nigeria's. What a shame.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:19am On May 29, 2018
NairobiWalker:


In good faith I don't mean to demean you but I'd rather have a decent town than a slum of a city. Your definition of city is only based on population but never quality. See for instance, Naivasha is a small town of about 180,000 people while Abeokuta is a city of over 1 million people. But look at Naivasha and compare it with Abeokuta.

Naivasha



Now look at Abeokuta

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Free advice, don't just base your arguments on population - Nigeria is 4 times more populous than Kenya. Look at quality.

rvp20182:
Had to confirm again those pictures - yeap - that is what I am talking about slum cities. Nigeria in 70-80s OIL BOOM moved to towns in droves [they had for a decade the world fastest urbanization] in search for elusive OYEL money- and yet there was no corresponding infrastructure or housing development - and what you got are huge slum metropolis - and collapsed rural economy (agriculture) - I tell you the amount of fallow land you'll find in Nigeria is staggering. Everybody and their grandmother basically abandoned the villages in 80s for unplanned urban centers --- except maybe for the nomadic north (hausa-fulani-kanuri) - you now have mega metropolis of slums - without electricity or water or sewage or any garbage collection -- everyone is just waiting for oil money to come from Abuja and if not - trying to escape Nigeria.


First of all, Abeokuta does not have up to a million people, stop telling lies in order to prove a point.

One thing about some Nigerian cities like Ibadan, Abeokuta and Kano is that they usually have an old city section. Most of these old houses were built long before independence, also, many of the residents of these places have been urban by nature even before the Europeans came! So, they no longer have any villages anymore which they are native to.
So your issue of urbanization during the oil boom makes no sense because some Nigerians have been urban for centuries. If you think it does, why don't all the Nigerian cities look like Abeokuta?


Besides, the entire Abeokuta does not look like that. There are modern parts of the city, but you chose to focus on that part.

The pictures of Naivasha you are showing us, how many Kenyans can afford to live in those kind of houses when the middleclass population of Kenya is very small? Or will you tell us that those areas are for low income people?

It is obvious that Kenya builds it's own cities to be exclusive for high middleclass and rich people. Nigerian cities on the other hand are for everyone, for the very rich and the very poor. You only need to find the area that suits you.

At least I prefer these old houses of Abeokuta, they are more decent than the gigantic slums in which the majority of urban Kenyans live. What is the essence of having expensive cities which the majority of the citizens cannot afford and end up in slums?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Sayboy: 2:48am On May 29, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:59am On May 29, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Is there benefit painting the trees white?
lol
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:11am On May 29, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Get online and search for Eastleigh pictures and post them here. Clearly you dont know what affluent stands for. Majority of the Somalis in Eastleigh are Kenyan Somali not Somali's from Somalia. So your point is desperation as usual.
Even the Kenyan Somali prefer to identity with Somalia and Eastleigh has many Somali immigrants. Remember the Shifta war?To many Kenyans, Eastleigh is affluent since they can't afford to live there. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:21am On May 29, 2018
Nowenuse:




First of all, Abeokuta does not have up to a million people, stop telling lies in order to prove a point.

One thing about some Nigerian cities like Ibadan, Abeokuta and Kano is that they usually have an old city section. Most of these old houses were built long before independence, also, many of the residents of these places have been urban by nature even before the Europeans came! So, they no longer have any villages anymore which they are native to.
So your issue of urbanization during the oil boom makes no sense because some Nigerians have been urban for centuries. If you think it does, why don't all the Nigerian cities look like Abeokuta?


Besides, the entire Abeokuta does not look like that. There are modern parts of the city, but you chose to focus on that part.

The pictures of Naivasha you are showing us, how many Kenyans can afford to live in those kind of houses when the middleclass population of Kenya is very small? Or will you tell us that those areas are for low income people?

It is obvious that Kenya builds it's own cities to be exclusive for high middleclass and rich people. Nigerian cities on the other hand are for everyone, for the very rich and the very poor. You only need to find the area that suits you.

At least I prefer these old houses of Abeokuta, they are more decent than the gigantic slums in which the majority of urban Kenyans live. What is the essence of having expensive cities which the majority of the citizens cannot afford and end up in slums?
Don't believe him. This is Naivasha below. A town of just 120,000 with several slums.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:25am On May 29, 2018
This data is quoting Nigeria cooked GDP - if you guys cannot even hold credible census - how can you come up with credible national accounts -gdp.
Nowenuse:
Kikuyu1

You guys are nothing but shameless haters whose cries about the Nigerian economy will not change nor stop us from being recognized as the largest economy in Africa with the largest middleclass population.

Around 40million Nigerians are middleclass citizens.

Add the middleclass population of the entire east africa, it still is not up to that of Nigeria.
Add the population of the top 10 largest middleclass population from different countries in Africa, it is still barely that of Nigeria's. What a shame.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:27am On May 29, 2018
sufferNsmiling:
The wealth of a country is not in the ground but all around us .nigeria has a lot of wealth in the ground like democratic republic of congo but on the other hand kenya is a better built country and a better structured country. I am a nigeria but come sunshine or rain I like kenya.
You are a "Nigeria" indeed.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:27am On May 29, 2018
That is Kibera slums. Entire Nigerian cities look like that. In Nairobi the slums occupy 5% of the land -- and they all all build in illegal land. You cannot find slums where people legally own land - like in Nigeria where there is no planning - anybody can come up with anything. In Nairobi any project save for illegal ones have to go thro rigorous approval.
obaaderemi:
Don't believe him. This is Naivasha below. A town of just 120,000 with several slums.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:29am On May 29, 2018
Naivasha is floriculture town of kenya and also a leading tourist destination (a weekend hangout for many Nairobians middle & upper class).
Zuckerberg toured Naivasha when he came to kenya.






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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:36am On May 29, 2018
Makoko Lagos....The monstrous grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27MIznzDpTA
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:38am On May 29, 2018
Naivasha - has many holiday/summer homes - for the rich.





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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:43am On May 29, 2018
rvp20182:
Naivasha - has many holiday/summer homes - for the rich.






Nice pics broh...This really really pisses off Naijas like the Oba guy cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:46am On May 29, 2018
Nairobi - Lower Kabete - Once Nigeria get near there - come and boast of 500B GDP smiley


Nairobi -Nyari - Nigerian concrete hugly mansions with zero greenery & landscapping can never measure up


Nairobi - Runda


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:46am On May 29, 2018
obaaderemi:
Even the Kenyan Somali prefer to identity with Somalia and Eastleigh has many Somali immigrants. Remember the Shifta war?To many Kenyans, Eastleigh is affluent since they can't afford to live there . grin


Your desperation is starting to show my broda…. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:51am On May 29, 2018
Nairobi - Runda - Nigeria concrete jungle can never compete? - except in cooked census and gdp.


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:53am On May 29, 2018
Nairobi - Kileleshwa - middle class estate - bring your chinese made roundabouts


Nairobi - Hurlingham -middle class estate - Yaya shopping center


Nairobi - Kilimani - middle class estate
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:56am On May 29, 2018
Nairobi eastland - This is worse of Nairobi [ Lower Middle class] - before you get to illegal slums built in valleys and forest.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:59am On May 29, 2018
Langata - with Kibera on the edge - as you can see there is ongoing slum upgrading.

Nairobi - Karen - comparing Nairobi with any Nigerian city is an insult.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:59am On May 29, 2018
mtis:


Your desperation is starting to show my broda…. grin
You are hurt by the truth. Sorry. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:04am On May 29, 2018
Nairobi - is too much for Nigeria shitty slum cities - it can be compared to South African cities - let's try Kisumu
Kisumu city


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:05am On May 29, 2018
obaaderemi:
You are hurt by the truth. Sorry. grin

Which truth…Just look at the photos being posted here n tell me if you don’t feel jealous grin

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