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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:25pm On Jun 02, 2020
why is UN still feeding Nigerians in tents in North East. Nearly every day - Boko Haram are killing Nigeria. I think on 20th May they killed 20.

Please stop this nonsense about a powerful black nation. It is VERY INSULTING.

You shame every black person by failing to use oil and by acting like an animal zoo. You're like Liberia or Haiti - that racist America use to show just how incompetent a black person is.

Abohboy:

That was years ago today they only occupy the borders of lake chad, their main bases are the islands of lake chad, stop lying the Nigerian government has gone on a massive offensive and pushed them very far back, and by your same logic America’s military is weak because they were unable to defeat ISIS right. And finally Boko Haram is supported by the French and american, you may not know but it serves a purpose for them, for Africa to stay underdeveloped it make sit easier to exploit them for resources, Nigeria is one of the only countries stopping this, being a large political influencer and powerful black nation if they ever get a competent leader and develop, they will kick out America, so destabilizing the country is one of the only ways to stop that from happening. Same applies to Kenya and Iran who do you think funded the taliban and al shabaab than they pretended to help. America and France have military bases all around lake chad, with reaper drones and fighter jets as a few thousand troops, why haven’t they sent them to fight Boko Haram, they are not there to help anyone all of it is for their own gain, France would be nowhere without African resources and exploitation, and America is france’s ally so they’d re helping. Understand now why Boko Haram is so formidable when they re about to be defeated the military bases in cameroon, Niger and chad give them more money or weapons and boom they attack again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:34pm On Jun 02, 2020
I just checked you Nigeria Intelligence Services - and I want to cry smiley. I am seeing 6m dollars. My friend Boko Haram is not beaten through Satelitte. You need Nigeria Intelligence officers living with Boko Haram.

Look like you have 3 - SSS, NIS and DIS - but getting their budget would tell us just how effective they are.

Kenya has NIS - Counter-Terrorism Unit - and Military Intelligence Unit.

NIS - basically CIA - with the budget now approaching 400m.
National Counter-Terrorism Unit- allows US/UK/foreign agents to work with the Kenya Police mostly to deal with international terror. They get state and donor funding.
Military Intelligence - is part of the Kenya Defence Forces.

Abohboy:

Nigeria has drones and military satellites we shove do have intelligence services that is how we have been bombing Boko Haram settlements for the last three weeks, and have been able to invade them with ground troops as well. The government is trying to get 5-8 military satellites by 2025 and bring in more drones and fighter jets soon Nigeria will be sending aircrafts to other countries to help them with terrorism.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:53pm On Jun 02, 2020
Okay look like I found for 2018. Look like SSS and NIS are each roughly funded with 100m dollars. There is amorphous Security Adviser with 100M and presidential escort.

So we can conclude they are spending about half on intelligence on Kenya - in a country of 200m people.

No wonder Nigeria is a wild wild west.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:56pm On Jun 02, 2020
gallivant:


Gdp is statistics. The economic aspect was brought in to muddy the waters on a sound aspect of Gdp which is, its simply statistics in every nature and form.
what does gdp calculate?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:57pm On Jun 02, 2020
davefurn:

Although ur land army is well equipped buh Nigeria numbers take a larger precedence....just our reserve forces is a whole lot
it's only larger in terms of men..... Wrt actual equipment it's smaller quite alot smaller
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:59pm On Jun 02, 2020
Abohboy:



Which is better Kenyan or Nigerian
better is relative..... However on paper the Nigerian military is more powerful.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:03pm On Jun 02, 2020
samorobo:


Somethings are not even worth discussing or arguing..
Africa military power.

Egypt
Algeria
South Africa
Nigeria
Ethiopia...

Sorry but Kenya is lost in the scenes...
Know your place.
Angola is undoubtedly more powerful than Ethiopia....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2020
gallivant:


You are not serious. grin
you too grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:20pm On Jun 02, 2020
davefurn:

Don't say that.......chadian army reallyyyy?.....they just woke up one morning and decided fight to earn some political points and u are calling them........ Those countries are d root cause of the problem periodt......

People are overrating the Chadian army IMO.. they are using their victory over BH to mock Nigeria army .. Nobody is talking about the hundreds of Chad citizens and soldiers that have been killed by BH.. nobody is talking about how incompetent the Chadian army is for allowing BH invade their territory in the first place...
Even till now, nobody is talking about how the Chadians are faring on the battle field at this moment..maybe when they kill a few more BH members,people will talk..

It's like they didn't expect the Chadians to go out and defend their country...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:23pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:
Dont blame them , They have no idea KDF is annexing part of Somalia right now as we chat
single handedly supporting an independent state within Somalia whose leadership is already aligned to Nairobi


Why else are you supporting Somali if not to stop them from gaining access to your country ??

They have managed to attack your capital and some other parts of your country over the years...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:26pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
why is UN still feeding Nigerians in tents in North East. Nearly every day - Boko Haram are killing Nigeria. I think on 20th May they killed 20.

Please stop this nonsense about a powerful black nation. It is VERY INSULTING.

You shame every black person by failing to use oil and by acting like an animal zoo. You're like Liberia or Haiti - that racist America use to show just how incompetent a black person is.



You got the report backwards Nigerian military killed 20 Boko Haram fighters. And the rest of the things you are saying I’m not bothered to explain if your not willing to speak without insults and proper reasoning then please don’t reply me.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:29pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
why is UN still feeding Nigerians in tents in North East. Nearly every day - Boko Haram are killing Nigeria. I think on 20th May they killed 20.

Please stop this nonsense about a powerful black nation. It is VERY INSULTING.

You shame every black person by failing to use oil and by acting like an animal zoo. You're like Liberia or Haiti - that racist America use to show just how incompetent a black person is.


At least we know why the UN are feeding people in Nigeria's north east ..

Pray tell us,why is nearly every major aid agency in the world still feeding people in your northern region ?
The turkanas in particular..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:29pm On Jun 02, 2020
New Nigerian tanks and artillery on the way to the northeast the VT-4 battle tank is the second best tank currently in use in Africa only behind Egypt’s abrams.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nigeria&#39;s new VT-4 tank and wheeled 105 mm Self propelled artillery heading to the front right away !!! <a href="https:///AkqnlZ1qGV">pic.twitter.com/AkqnlZ1qGV</a></p>&mdash; Defense News Nigeria (@DefenseNigeria) <a href="https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1267881562898681856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jun 02, 2020
Danielnino00:


Why else are you supporting Somali if not to stop them from gaining access to your country ??

They have managed to attack your capital and some other parts of your country over the years...

there is a difference between somalis and alshabaab, like nigeria they are fighting a war against insurgents occupying their territory
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:33pm On Jun 02, 2020
They said it not us

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 7:34pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
Boko Haram have tanks - and name it. Maybe you only beat them in the Airforce. They have huge territory - not just Sambisa forest - but nearly 2-3 states in Nigeria.

You cannot compare to Alshabaab - who are just cowardly terrorist - who sneak in, launch an attack and are killed.

Tanks really.....own 2 and 3 states??......where do u get ur news?..........no need to continue d arguments.......checked d latest news
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:35pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
Yes the Eritrea rebels kicked the Ethiopia militia slowly until it became totally landlocked. They should at least have defended a small corridor to the sea.

I'll have to agree with you on this, Ethiopia fuc ked up things. If they are wise, they can start of a little contention by secretly financing an insurgency in their border with Eritrea, then move in and reclaim even if it's an inch to the sea.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 7:37pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:

tantrum
they cant hold a single inch of kenyan territory like boko haram
thats why they spend alot of resources and time hiding as they attack civilian targets, planting ied's on our border roads
below 2014 was the last time they tried to establish a local insurgency in our territory they destroyed a police post and murdered villagers, Kdf eliminated all of them soon after




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb3j6GB2QVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5LssaU79dU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL3cUaySGpA
Exactly what Boko Haram is doing now
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:38pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:

there is a difference between somalis and alshabaab, like nigeria they are fighting a war against insurgents occupying their territory

Somali are fighting Al Shabab,clan wars and that kind of nonsense..
The only reason Kenyan troops are in Somali is to stop Al Shabab from gaining access into your country... There are over 2 million Somalis living in Kenya..it would cost Al Shabab nothing to establish territories in Kenya if nothing stands in their way..
Basically,Kenya is doing what Chad is doing: fighting to keep terrorists away from their country.

It simply means Kenya is at war with external terror groups...has Kenya won the war ? No!

You dare not pull your troops out of Somali cus it would mean trouble grin ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 7:39pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:

tantrum
they cant hold a single inch of kenyan territory like boko haram
thats why they spend alot of resources and time hiding as they attack civilian targets, planting ied's on our border roads
below 2014 was the last time they tried to establish a local insurgency in our territory they destroyed a police post and murdered villagers, Kdf eliminated all of them soon after




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb3j6GB2QVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5LssaU79dU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL3cUaySGpA
Exactly what Boko Haram is doing now
Attacking d military and random villages unawares then run
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:39pm On Jun 02, 2020
davefurn:

Tanks really.....own 2 and 3 states??......where do u get ur news?..........no need to continue d arguments.......checked d latest news

It's typical of RVP to post misinformation whenever he gets excited..

The last time Boko Haram held any territory within Nigeria was in 2015.. Today,they have been restricted to Sambisa forest and the lake Chad region ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:42pm On Jun 02, 2020
Despite all the noise about budget and training,the Kenyan military isn't even among the top 10 in Africa..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 7:44pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
The Nigeria Militia - are not a modern army. First show me their MILITARY INTELLIGENCE? You cannot win a war by just sending 100K troops with guns! That kind of brute forces is cannon fodder for modern weapons.

They seriously need to invest in Counter-Terrorism Intelligence. If it mean torturing the Boko Harams - torture them until they reveal everything - if it means paying them pay them.

Kenya intelligence (NIS) alone budget is 200M dollars - that Entire GHANA military budget.

And we still have Military Intelligence.

The modern war is won through BRAINS - and that is why KDF insist on training it's force - and having them acquire military degrees.

Browse best intelligence agencies in Africa then come bk

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:45pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
They are killing many people every day - and displacing thousands - and you're here claiming NIGERIA is the STRONGEST ARMY? The BokoHaram attacks are not random. They are territorial.
prove this or for ever remain silent, Ethiopian militia has been killing kenyan soldiers with no reaction from Kenya. grin grin grin

Prove Boko Haram control an inch of land in Nigeria.... We obliterate them once the have the mind to do so,. Some villagers complain of the stench coming from decaying BHT

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 7:45pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
The Nigeria Militia - are not a modern army. First show me their MILITARY INTELLIGENCE? You cannot win a war by just sending 100K troops with guns! That kind of brute forces is cannon fodder for modern weapons.

They seriously need to invest in Counter-Terrorism Intelligence. If it mean torturing the Boko Harams - torture them until they reveal everything - if it means paying them pay them.

Kenya intelligence (NIS) alone budget is 200M dollars - that Entire GHANA military budget.

And we still have Military Intelligence.

The modern war is won through BRAINS - and that is why KDF insist on training it's force - and having them acquire military degrees.

Browse best intelligence agencies in Africa first grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:47pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:
Dont blame them , They have no idea KDF is annexing part of Somalia right now as we chat
single handedly supporting an independent state within Somalia whose leadership is already aligned to Nairobi

Ethiopia will do annex turkana and all boarder towns with Kenya. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:51pm On Jun 02, 2020
davefurn:

They aren't territorial again......Boko Haram of before yes buh now fat NO!!.......I never claimed Nigeria is d strongest army......tbh we are still crude
do you know the meaning of the word crude... A military that manufactures , drones, ships, guns, rockets, rocket pods, amoured vehicles,helmets and bullet proof vests cannot be crude.. Somali military isn't even crude.

Only maumau like gallivant fighters are crude grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:54pm On Jun 02, 2020
rvp2018:
Boko Haram have tanks - and name it. Maybe you only beat them in the Airforce. They have huge territory - not just Sambisa forest - but nearly 2-3 states in Nigeria.

You cannot compare to Alshabaab - who are just cowardly terrorist - who sneak in, launch an attack and are killed.

lol. Your life is joke to be honest grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jun 02, 2020
Danielnino00:


Somali are fighting Al Shabab,clan wars and that kind of nonsense..
The only reason Kenyan troops are in Somali is to stop Al Shabab from gaining access into your country... There are over 2 million Somalis living in Kenya..it would cost Al Shabab nothing to establish territories in Kenya if nothing stands in their way..
Basically,Kenya is doing what Chad is doing: fighting to keep terrorists away from their country.

It simply means Kenya is at war with external terror groups...has Kenya won the war ? No!

You dare not pull your troops out of Somali cus it would mean trouble grin ..

that will not be the first time somalis tried that sh*t, go read about the shifta war when somali govt tried to sponsor an insurgency in kenya, they got thoroughly whooped and abandoned by somalia , the somali govt had to sign a peace treaty to stop the brutal kenyan forces

this is not the first time Kenya has dealt with insurgencies, they have been many, read about the Sabaot Land defence Force, the Mombasa Republican Council and the Mungiki menace, all quashed and so will alshabaab.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 7:56pm On Jun 02, 2020
Baliv254:

tantrum
they cant hold a single inch of kenyan territory like boko haram
thats why they spend alot of resources and time hiding as they attack civilian targets, planting ied's on our border roads
below 2014 was the last time they tried to establish a local insurgency in our territory they destroyed a police post and murdered villagers, Kdf eliminated all of them soon after




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb3j6GB2QVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5LssaU79dU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL3cUaySGpA
wow I can see a mi-28 heli in the last video grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:57pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tanzania's ordinary folks

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:57pm On Jun 02, 2020
gallivant:


Gdp is statistics. The economic aspect was brought in to muddy the waters on a sound aspect of Gdp which is, its simply statistics in every nature and form.
pls, don't say that bolded statement in public....

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