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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:11pm On May 07, 2022
Development every where :
Last stage of the construction of the largest mall in Kaduna, Kaduna state grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 2:13pm On May 07, 2022
Just40:
as usual, a waste of time ...
Empty head person
Hobbit's dwarf brain has spoken. cool

Hobbitsm syndrome is the enemy. I won't blame you for constantly spewing nothing.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:15pm On May 07, 2022
Development every where :
Lekki, Lagos Deep Seaport gets its first vessel with Happy Buccaneer ship unloading petrol for Pinnacle Tank Farm in Lekki . The port project which would also focus heavily on container goods will be completed this year.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:19pm On May 07, 2022
Nigeria has been selected to host the 2022 CAF Confederation Cup Final this month Sunday, May 29. CAF has picked the Godswill Akpabio stadium in Akwa Ibom for better security of officials

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:33pm On May 07, 2022
The renovated Mobolaji Johnson Stadium , Lagos.( 4th largest stadium in Lagos state , yet better than any stadium in Kenya )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_w5H9vuwE8

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:48pm On May 07, 2022
Eket Stadium, is located In Etet town (Not the state capital grin grin grin ), Akwa Ibom 52.8 km from the state capital Uyo

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 3:07pm On May 07, 2022
Another port in Nigeria : why only in Nigeria wink wink wink
Largest Deep-Sea Port in Africa, Badagry,Lagos, Deep Seaport. began construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxF0i_uROI

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 3:28pm On May 07, 2022
68816419:
Another port in Nigeria : why only in Nigeria wink wink wink
Largest Deep-Sea Port in Africa, Badagry,Lagos, Deep Seaport. began construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxF0i_uROI
I thought they said it would begin in June because of the feasibility studies still ongoing?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 3:48pm On May 07, 2022

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 3:49pm On May 07, 2022
GeneralDae:

I thought they said it would begin in June because of the feasibility studies still ongoing?
feasibility studies has been completed

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 3:55pm On May 07, 2022
68816419:
Eket Stadium, is located In Etet town (Not the state capital grin grin grin ), Akwa Ibom 52.8 km from the state capital Uyo

Too many stadiums but you only host a few events, smh!

Kenya as we talk is hosting an international event.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 3:57pm On May 07, 2022
68816419:
Another port in Nigeria : why only in Nigeria wink wink wink
Largest Deep-Sea Port in Africa, Badagry,Lagos, Deep Seaport. began construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxF0i_uROI

That's a plain lie. Kilindini port in Mombasa is the largest deep sea port in SSA probably maybe after dubarn port in SA.


And the newly Lamu port... Located above the deepest ocean on the continent.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 5:08pm On May 07, 2022
Kenya's Tsavo development is growing bigger and bugger by day. 5hrs from now, Kenya's real estate will be giving SA a headache.

https://tsavo.ke/

These Tsavo type of houses are being built all over the place....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQQiZUswu24

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by tylann: 5:18pm On May 07, 2022
I like what governor oparanya has done with kakamega

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 5:21pm On May 07, 2022
Shma:


Too many stadiums but you only host a few events, smh!

Kenya as we talk is hosting an international event.
grin I know a Kenyan would say this. Don't worry, we are planning to host something hooge in the future grin. The World cup.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 5:44pm On May 07, 2022
GeneralDae:

grin I know a Kenyan would say this. Don't worry, we are planning to host something hooge in the future grin. The World cup.
Good luck with that. Senegal, Ivory Coast, and Ghana are also eying on that.


Kenya is not doing well in football, at the moment. But we might host it probably maybe earlier than Nigeria.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 5:55pm On May 07, 2022
Shma:

Hobbit's dwarf brain has spoken. cool

Hobbitsm syndrome is the enemy. I won't blame you for constantly spewing nothing.
skeletal lunatic dwarf

Tantrum

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 6:21pm On May 07, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 6:24pm On May 07, 2022
GeneralDae:

grin I know a Kenyan would say this. Don't worry, we are planning to host something hooge in the future grin. The World cup.

Give us a break, you couldn't even host the youth athletics. But guys go ahead and build more stadiums, for economic prosperity.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by dreamxhaser: 6:30pm On May 07, 2022
rvp2018:
How do you plan to beat India and likes of South Korea very efficient refineries? You'll likely be buying very expensive oil. Kenya we had a refinery until 10yrs ago but it more expensive to buy kenya refined oil than import refined oil.

Dangote has built a refinery in Lagos - and will have to ship the crude oil from south east - and you can bet his refined oil will be more expensive that oil that land in Lagos.

And of course because you've total inefficient downstream business - by the time - oil snake itself from Dangote refinery in Lekki to your petrol station - it will have incurred days if not months of transport and storage.

In short you cannot beat Indians in refinery business - focus on building the internal downstream infrastructure.


See mumu, we will beat the indians hands down.

How can our refined oil be expensive like that of Kenya? We are an oil producing country for Gods sake, while Kenya isn't . You morons should realise our refined oil will even be cheaper than the ones imported.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:32pm On May 07, 2022
rvp2018:
South Africa during apartheid sanction pioneered the production of oil from their coal as they couldnt find oil easily. Sasoil - one largest companies in the world - refine oil - not from crude - but from their coal.

Kenya for 50yrs until 2010 or about had oil refinery that was meeting local and regional demands - producing 50,000 barrels per day - however it went into disused - new refining standard came (no lead/sulfur) - and Indians simply built world most efficient large refineries that put many small refinieries worldwide out of business. In 2010 - we sold half the share to Essar (I think part of Indian Reliance - oil biggest refineries) - but for some reason they couldnt revive the plant - and we bought it back.

Kenya doesnt produce oil - for Nigeria - the shame is beyond the pale

So You allowed your refinery to go to the dogs because Indians in India built large refineries? grin Why do Indians determine so much that happens in Kenya? That's beyond stvpid.

Nigeria currently is building a refinery that might put a number of Indian refineries out of business. Shame on you.

By next year we will have zero fuel import. By the way we already export fertilisers to some big countries.

As a regional powerhouse and a 50m population country, you have no excuse.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:57pm On May 07, 2022
dreamxhaser:


See mumu, we will beat the indians hands down.

How can our refined oil be expensive like that of Kenya? We are an oil producing country for Gods sake, while Kenya isn't . You morons should realise our refined oil will even be cheaper than the ones imported.
And it will be readily available while Kenya continues to queue for fuel.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obakillah: 7:15pm On May 07, 2022
obaaderemi:
So You allowed your refinery to go to the dogs because Indians in India built large refineries? grin Why do Indians determine so much that happens in Kenya? That's beyond stvpid.


I totally understand your obsession with Indians. You are just pushing the narrative wrong. I can help you...

Indians are the second biggest employers in Nigeria

https://www.icirnigeria.org/indian-govt-claims-its-second-highest-employer-of-labour-in-nigeria/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/02/19/indian-firms-second-highest-employers-after-fg-says-acci-2/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ripplesnigeria.com/india-is-highest-employer-of-labour-in-nigeria-after-govt-envoy/%3famp

Not to mention Indians run the oil industry in Nigeria. wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:52pm On May 07, 2022
rvp2018:
I am not suprised that you picked Russia. A third world country with nuclear weapons.
I've always said it, you little Indians know little about international affairs. How can an educated person label Russia a third world country? You are very ignorant.
rvp2018:

Very few countries develop using natural resources.
Nobody is talking about development and natural resources. We are saying natural resources come in handy when things are rough. United States has availability of many natural resources as one of the factors to thank for its rapid development. Iron ore helped Britain a lot too. Oil and gas are helping Russia.
rvp2018:


[b]Those that have developed and that kenya want to follow do not have any natural resources[/s] - you can majority of Asian Tigers - most of Western Europe. What those countries do - they invest in their people - they educate them, they feed them better, they have less kids - and those people can then buy natural resouces from Nigeria or Russia - add value - and get more money. Look at you oil - India that doesnt have any oil - buy them cheap - refine them - and
Your shithole is nothing like any of those countries. They had foundation for development which you lack and they don't worship corruption like you do. The other time you said an animal like Ruto should take over from his corrupt brother as president. A man like that would be behind bars in any of those countries you think you are aping.

rvp2018:

Now let move to Kenya - apart from last month of madness - we have always nailed the oil sector - and re-export oil worth 2B dollars. How do we do this - we have cornered the logistics of the downstream oil business. We have 2nd most functional downstream oil pipeline, we had refinery that is now a storage, and we have huge storage tanks - that allows us to re-export oil and it's by products from Kenya to Uganda, DRC, Rwanda, Congo, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Malawi, Zambia and even down to Moz. Kenya oil downstream companies are selling fuel in those countries.
Now all this has been proved to be insufficient. Has it not? Now your problems with oil product supply has clearly shown your foolishness in not investing enough in that industry instead of just being satisfied as a transit point.

rvp2018:

So you see having natural resources is NOTHING to shout about. Human brains is more important - making sure you build modern economy that is not based on natural resources critical.

You're talking about 2008 - Kenya has breezed through all sort of global crisis without any worry - because we have resilient diversified NON mineral economy.

We have built africa largest non-mineral economy by investing in HCI. And Nigeria has world WORST
Did you know that Kenya's HCI is the 2nd HIGHEST IN AFRICA at 0.56? Mauritius leads at 0.64.

Nigeria has one of the lowest HCIs in the world at just 0.33 (same as Angola).

Rwanda's HCI of 0.36 is higher than Eswatini (the latter's GDP per capita is 4-5 times greater).


And really the only non-mineral investment you're now shouting about - so called FinTech/ICT - is mainly driven by diaspora Nigerians returning home - this not homegrown HCI.

And you've achieve d nothing with your supposedly and phantom high hci. Your school leavers constantly fail their final school leaving exams and foreigners own your ict industry. So what again?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 8:14pm On May 07, 2022
Obakillah:


I totally understand your obsession with Indians. You are just pushing the narrative wrong. I can help you...

Indians are the second biggest employers in Nigeria

https://www.icirnigeria.org/indian-govt-claims-its-second-highest-employer-of-labour-in-nigeria/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/02/19/indian-firms-second-highest-employers-after-fg-says-acci-2/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ripplesnigeria.com/india-is-highest-employer-of-labour-in-nigeria-after-govt-envoy/%3famp

Not to mention Indians run the oil industry in Nigeria. wink
1. How did the Indian run the oil industry in Nigeria.
2. List their companies participating in the oil industry

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:17pm On May 07, 2022
You're talking future tense - make it happen first.
We have done it before.
Our oil refinery was competitive until 2014.
Oil products from KPRL used to serve customers in Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania and parts of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
We use to import crude and refine it.
But refinery got old and inefficient - an attempt to get strategic Indian partner Essar to help us didnt work out.
Yes India are good in that stuff. Essar and Reliance are some world leader in this business. Ambani is one richest in world from oil refinery
Thousands of Indians are laying down Dangote refinery and will run it.
Your salt merchant Dangote knows nothing about refinery
His real value is going to be getting Abuja to impose taxes and duty on refine fuel imports...protectionism
And then he will finish you - with high prices - just like Cement.

obaaderemi:
So You allowed your refinery to go to the dogs because Indians in India built large refineries? grin Why do Indians determine so much that happens in Kenya? That's beyond stvpid.

Nigeria currently is building a refinery that might put a number of Indian refineries out of business. Shame on you.

By next year we will have zero fuel import. By the way we already export fertilisers to some big countries.

As a regional powerhouse and a 50m population country, you have no excuse.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:19pm On May 07, 2022
An index is only as good as its data sources. While
the data underlying the HCI have been carefully
curated and thoroughly reviewed by colleagues
around the World Bank, we are acutely aware of its
limitations and that more needs to be done to
improve measurement. [Official sources on health
and school enrollment, together with data from a
variety of international and regional testing
programs, are the basis for the calculation of the
HCI.

The above is from the world bank on HCI. grin Definitely little India has supplied cooked data to the world bank like it does regularly to international bodies. I was wondering how it's HCi could be higher than those of morroco, south Africa and Tunisia. Now it's clear. A country where secondary school students fail woefully each year and the university system is bad.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:24pm On May 07, 2022
One issue at time - we got all the time.
Russia gdp per capita =10,126.72 USD (2020)
That is South Africa level...that is middle class or third world..because we dont have second world.
First class or developed countries start at 12,000usd per capita.
Africa maiden developed country is Mauritus.
Russia is a 3rd world country with nuclear weapons.
Having 10K per capita is a sick joke.
US and Europe have per capita of 40-50k!!!!!!!!!!! 4-5 times more than Russia.
US anybody earning less than 20K is considered poor and receives a welfare cheque.

Natural resources never made anyone rich.
It's adding value to natural resources that make people rich.

Otherwise Nigeria and DRC would be richest countries in the world.

obaaderemi:
I've always said it, you little Indians know little about international affairs. How can an educated person label Russia a third world country? You are very ignorant.

Nobody is talking about development and natural resources. We are saying natural resources come in handy when things are rough. United States has availability of many natural resources as one of the factors to thank for its rapid development. Iron ore helped Britain a lot too. Oil and gas are helping Russia.
Your shithole is nothing like any of those countries. They had foundation for development which you lack and they don't worship corruption like you do. The other time you said an animal like Ruto should take over from his corrupt brother as president. A man like that would be behind bars in any of those countries you think you are aping.

Now all this has been proved to be insufficient. Has it not? Now your problems with oil product supply has clearly shown your foolishness in not investing enough in that industry instead of just being satisfied as a transit point.

And you've achieve d nothing with your supposedly and phantom high hci. Your school leavers constantly fail their final school leaving exams and foreigners own your ict industry. So what again?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:25pm On May 07, 2022
rvp2018:
You're talking future tense - make it happen first.
We have done it before.
Our oil refinery was competitive until 2014.
Oil products from KPRL used to serve customers in Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania and parts of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
We use to import crude and refine it.
But refinery got old and inefficient - an attempt to get strategic Indian partner Essar to help us didnt work out.
Yes India are good in that stuff. Essar and Reliance are some world leader in this business. Ambani is one richest in world from oil.
Thousands of Indians are laying down Dangote refinery and will run it.
Your salt merchant Dangote knows nothing about refinery
His real value is going to be getting Abuja to impose taxes and duty on refine fuel imports...protectionism
And then he will finish you - with high prices - just like Cement.

Corruption And lack of knowledgeable personnel killed your refinery. It was long dead before 2014. We had four refineries in the past and the smallest of them was bigger than the inefficient Indian owned refinery you had in Kenya. We never imported any fuel until 1998. The corrupt military boys killed our refineries.

But unlike you, we didn't throw in the towel and give up. We allowed the private sector to take over. But then your private sector is much smaller and less vigorous than ours. wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:29pm On May 07, 2022
Our refinery worked for almost 50yrs.
It biggest problem was new fuel standards - [ this is greek in nigerian] - when sulfur and lead was outlawed in Kenya.
Nigeria you still consume the worst kind of fuel.
In fact you're known worlwide as market for dirty fuels...you get dumped sulfur and lead fuel...
This we banned in kenya - 20 or 30yrs ago.
Yet you have very sweat crude in Nigeria without sulfur or lead.
Your country is a joke.

Anyway we converted our refinery into oil storage and it's working.
For now it's just not feasible to run small refinery.
It was before large refineries were built.
Dangote large refinery will work.
If he let the Indians run it.

obaaderemi:
Corruption And lack of knowledgeable personnel killed your refinery. It was long dead before 2014. We had four refineries in the past and the smallest of them was bigger than the inefficient Indian owned refinery you had in Kenya. We never imported any fuel until 1998. The corrupt military boys killed our refineries.

But unlike you, we didn't throw in the towel and give up. We allowed the private sector to take over. But then your private sector is much smaller and less vigorous than ours. wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:33pm On May 07, 2022
You're being sold fuel most countries banned 30yrs ago...including kenya
The last lead fuel sold in Kenya was maybe 20yrs ago.
And strangely your crude is one best because it has no sulfur or lead.
You export best crude and import the dirtiest of refined oil
End result - health problems - car problems.
The petrol you import is even dirtier than ones I saw being sold on the streets from bush refineries.
At least bush refineries are using sweat crude....that Nigeria sell to US and rest of world.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/01/petrol-sold-to-nigeria-from-europe-dirtier-than-black-market-bush-fuel

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:36pm On May 07, 2022
There are so many indices by so many bodies that clearly shows Kenya is ahead. Common sense alone would tell you that a barren country without arable land or natural resources - and doing so well like kenya - it can only be because of HUMAN Resources.
obaaderemi:


The above is from the world bank on HCI. grin Definitely little India has supplied cooked data to the world bank like it does regularly to international bodies. I was wondering how it's HCi could be higher than those of morroco, south Africa and Tunisia. Now it's clear. A country where secondary school students fail woefully each year and the university system is bad.

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