chrisooblog:
bro can't believe you are actually saying all this.

Mandela himself in his book Long Walk To Freedom acknowledged the role African countries like Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana, Guinea heck even Algeria played in contributing to the abolishment of apartheid.

Please spare us the referendum story everyone knows the White led government finally caved in when their biggest backers like the US and UK were getting cold feet because of pressure from their citizens.

read up on the 1976 olympics in montreal that African countries boycotted in support against Apartheid.

Yes you boycotted so what

The referendum is what ended apartheid,

chrisooblog:
bro can't believe you are actually saying all this.

Mandela himself in his book Long Walk To Freedom acknowledged the role African countries like Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana, Guinea heck even Algeria played in contributing to the abolishment of apartheid.

Please spare us the referendum story everyone knows the White led government finally caved in when their biggest backers like the US and UK were getting cold feet because of pressure from their citizens.

read up on the 1976 olympics in montreal that African countries boycotted in support against Apartheid.

African countries were Transit Nations fact

Except for Zambia


Pretty much almost every where in SA was normal, yes places like Vaal, Soweto were violent.




You helped ANC what? Some trained in Russia, Cuba, to do what?

the boycott brought global attention to the apartheid cause. years of political pressure especially from african nations helped bring down the repressive system.

you kid right? referendum? after how many years of exploiting the local population i hear you.

Austine1213:


Yes you boycotted so what

The referendum is what ended apartheid,

there was nothing pretty normal. blacks were excluded from running the country by the minority white government fact.

transit nations that gave you money and offered training and safe passage i hear you.

really wonder what kind of history they teach in SA schools to attempt to down play the supportive role african nations played.

please spare me the blah blah blah about russia and cuba when every little boy and his dog knows they were only offering help as political opponents of the US and UK who in turn were supporting the apartheid government.

Austine1213:


African countries were Transit Nations fact

Except for Zambia


Pretty much almost every where in SA was normal, yes places like Vaal, Soweto were violent.




You helped ANC what? Some trained in Russia, Cuba, to do what?

Austine1213:


Apartheid ended after a referendum that's fact


Can you prove how many were accomodated, the ANC was in Zambia fact.


Tanzania chased then away, Nigeria was hostile, ANC peeps diapeared without a trace

African countries were transit countries, only Zambia really accomodated ANC

Apartheid ended because African countries and other non aligned nations kept the evil of the system in the public awareness across the world. It was the same thing with how African countries got their independence. Mostly by keeping the evil in the public sphere.
The whites that you credit with ending apartheid today were your real enemies. They didn't want apartheid to end became they believed the black government would go communist. Look what the apartheid government of South Africa did in Namibia and Angola in the 80s, with the backing of the support of the American government.

And how was Nigeria hostile to South Africans during apartheid? Is that the lie the white masters told you? And how did Tanzania expel anc men? Maybe kazikazi can confirm that for us.

chrisooblog:
the boycott brought global attention to the apartheid cause. years of political pressure especially from african nations helped bring down the repressive system.

you kid right? referendum? after how many years of exploiting the local population i hear you.

He blatantly exposed his ignorance. Fact is over the years, the black South Africans have been fed with hatred against fellow Africans. During xenophobia, you never see them go near white properties. They've been brainwashed. Just like the Kenyans who view Indian domination as normal.

Austine1213:


African countries were Transit Nations fact

Except for Zambia

At least they were transit nations.

Austine1213:


Pretty much almost every where in SA was normal, yes places like Vaal, Soweto were violent.

How was it normal when blacks in all South African cities and towns were excluded from the government of their nation? You need to stop talking like this. If you were having this convo with Kenyans, they would have called you all kinds of names.

Austine1213:


You helped ANC what? Some trained in Russia, Cuba, to do what?

Some trained in Ethiopia and Tanzania. Mbeki lived in Nigeria. Mandela was returning from Ethiopia when they nabbed him. But now you remember the Cubans and Russians and left out Ethiopia because it's African.

obaaderemi:
He blatantly exposed his ignorance. Fact is over the years, the black South Africans have been fed with hatred against fellow Africans. During xenophobia, you never see them go near white properties. They've been brainwashed. Just like the Kenyans who view Indian domination as normal.

You should fix Nigeria and your people will never suffer from xenophobia, Mediterenean high seas and slavery in Europe. Nobody will tolerate your baggage of a failed state in Africa, we have our own problems to deal with. Keep your asses in freaking Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
At least they were transit nations.

How was it normal when blacks in all South African cities and towns were excluded from the government of their nation? You need to stop talking like this. If you were having this convo with Kenyans, they would have called you all kinds of names.




Some trained in Ethiopia and Tanzania. Mbeki lived in Nigeria. Mandela was returning from Ethiopia when they nabbed him. But now you remember the Cubans and Russians and left out Ethiopia because it's African.

Black's were not excluded in cities you just had to carry a pass, my mom worked in Pretoria, my uncle was a doctor lived in hillbrow in its glory. Yes the Anc wrote history in their favor, to be more acceptable.

But what were the training for? Where did they implement their training?

Are you sure Mandela was nabbed from Ethiopia? Lol

obaaderemi:
At least they were transit nations.

How was it normal when blacks in all South African cities and towns were excluded from the government of their nation? You need to stop talking like this. If you were having this convo with Kenyans, they would have called you all kinds of names.




Some trained in Ethiopia and Tanzania. Mbeki lived in Nigeria. Mandela was returning from Ethiopia when they nabbed him. But now you remember the Cubans and Russians and left out Ethiopia because it's African.

Mbeki’s mission in Nigeria was to establish diplomatic relations with Olusegun Obasanjo’s regime, – a mission that proved to be quite successful as Mbeki was to build a lasting relationship with the Nigerian authorities.

It wasn't really a stay, but a mission

obaaderemi:
Apartheid ended because African countries and other non aligned nations kept the evil of the system in the public awareness across the world. It was the same thing with how African countries got their independence. Mostly by keeping the evil in the public sphere.
The whites that you credit with ending apartheid today were your real enemies. They didn't want apartheid to end became they believed the black government would go communist. Look what the apartheid government of South Africa did in Namibia and Angola in the 80s, with the backing of the support of the American government.

And how was Nigeria hostile to South Africans during apartheid? Is that the lie the white masters told you? And how did Tanzania expel anc men? Maybe kazikazi can confirm that for us.

Nigeria being hostile to SA had no impact on SA

Anc stay in Tanzania was short and expelled shortly Zambia took them in for years

chrisooblog:
bro can't believe you are actually saying all this.

Mandela himself in his book Long Walk To Freedom acknowledged the role African countries like Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana, Guinea heck even Algeria played in contributing to the abolishment of apartheid.

Please spare us the referendum story everyone knows the White led government finally caved in when their biggest backers like the US and UK were getting cold feet because of pressure from their citizens.

read up on the 1976 olympics in montreal that African countries boycotted in support against Apartheid.

The economy caved not the Government...... As Austine stated apartheid ended due to a referendum which 62% of White SAns voted to abolish apartheid and un-ban the ANC.

chrisooblog:
there was nothing pretty normal. blacks were excluded from running the country by the minority white government fact.

transit nations that gave you money and offered training and safe passage i hear you.

really wonder what kind of history they teach in SA schools to attempt to down play the supportive role african nations played.

please spare me the blah blah blah about russia and cuba when every little boy and his dog knows they were only offering help as political opponents of the US and UK who in turn were supporting the apartheid government.

That's what the ANC told people from outside the country they needed people to rally with them

Just what the Eff is doing now,,, the make too much noise over nothing that's why they never win elections,

obaaderemi:
He blatantly exposed his ignorance. Fact is over the years, the black South Africans have been fed with hatred against fellow Africans. During xenophobia, you never see them go near white properties. They've been brainwashed. Just like the Kenyans who view Indian domination as normal.

Have you head south Africa complain about Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland Lesotho?

All those countries are doing well, you don't come to SA with a baggage of problems and expect South africans to smile at you.


Are Europeans not complaining about influx of illegal immigrants, ain't black Americans not complaining about illegal immigrants? Isn't Philippines hanging and executing Nigerians in their hundreds?
Law takes too much time south africans don't have time for that.

Stay in your country stop complaining about racism, xenophobia, hatred, discrimination!!! Period

and the economy caved due to sanctions from the outside world. The White led establishment had no choice but to abolish apartheid other option would have led to war and lack of support from your allies then. the reason why the system lasted so long was due to backing from the US and UK. with both government getting tired of backing the white establishment due to pressures from their citizens back home and changing global order (fall of soviet union).

and please the whites didn't wake up one day and decide to abolish apartheid. it was a culmination of years of pressure from African governments and the likes.

jln115:
The economy caved not the Government...... As Austine stated apartheid ended due to a referendum which 62% of White SAns voted to abolish apartheid and un-ban the ANC.

so the apartheid system was loved by all and it was just busybody ANC members causing trouble really? please tell me more

Austine1213:


That's what the ANC told people from outside the country they needed people to rally with them

Just what the Eff is doing now,,, the make too much noise over nothing that's why they never win elections,

chrisooblog:
and the economy caved due to sanctions from the outside world. The White led establishment had no choice but to abolish apartheid other option would have led to war and lack of support from your allies then. the reason why the system lasted so long was due to backing from the US and UK. with both government getting tired of backing the white establishment due to pressures from their citizens back home and changing global order (fall of soviet union).

and please the whites didn't wake up one day and decide to abolish apartheid. it was a culmination of years of pressure from African governments and the likes.

War from whom?

why they have to deploy these gaslighting tactics when the whole world knows how apartheid ended. nobody will beat them if they say African countries helped out

obaaderemi:
At least they were transit nations.

How was it normal when blacks in all South African cities and towns were excluded from the government of their nation? You need to stop talking like this. If you were having this convo with Kenyans, they would have called you all kinds of names.




Some trained in Ethiopia and Tanzania. Mbeki lived in Nigeria. Mandela was returning from Ethiopia when they nabbed him. But now you remember the Cubans and Russians and left out Ethiopia because it's African.

obaaderemi:
He blatantly exposed his ignorance. Fact is over the years, the black South Africans have been fed with hatred against fellow Africans. During xenophobia, you never see them go near white properties. They've been brainwashed. Just like the Kenyans who view Indian domination as normal.

Its because Whites are SAn not illegal foreigners

the ANC and other freedom fighters don't forget cuba was also willing to provide men and ammunition.

jln115:
War from whom?

white are illegal immigrants who took land from the local population fact!

jln115:
Its because Whites are SAn not illegal foreigners

chrisooblog:
so the apartheid system was loved by all and it was just busybody ANC members causing trouble really? please tell me more

They were suppose to fight apartheid not infrastructure ment for the country to function!

In your view when terrorist bmbed a shopping center in Kenya it was OK,

Act like a terrorist, South like a terrorist you are classified a terrorist, Infact the anc was a pwawn in cold war between Russia n US,

chrisooblog:
white are illegal immigrants who took land from the local population fact!

From an outsider perspective, that's your opinion

In South Africa whites are as South African as blacks, equal rights, same standing.

chrisooblog:
the ANC and other freedom fighters don't forget cuba was also willing to provide men and ammunition.

Ammunition for what?

chrisooblog:
why they have to deploy these gaslighting tactics when the whole world knows how apartheid ended. nobody will beat them if they say African countries helped out

Referendum by over 60% decided the end of apartheid

chrisooblog:
white are illegal immigrants who took land from the local population fact!

And so are all the Black Bantu people then in that case

chrisooblog:
the ANC and other freedom fighters don't forget cuba was also willing to provide men and ammunition.

Have you never heard of the Border War? Cuba sent 50 000 men to Angola...........and got absolutely slaughtered by the SADF

jln115:
And so are all the Black Bantu people then in that case

Strawman argument. However, I agree that South Africans(black, white etc) ended arpatheid.

Obakillah:


You should fix Nigeria and your people will never suffer from xenophobia, Mediterenean high seas and slavery in Europe. Nobody will tolerate your baggage of a failed state in Africa, we have our own problems to deal with. Keep your asses in freaking Nigeria.

Don't stress yourself.....nobody wants to come to failed state Kenya.......so be calm, you have no need to worry about xenophobia cos Kenya is s still a sh.iithole......

bantus were born on the continent whites weren't

jln115:
And so are all the Black Bantu people then in that case

dude are you having a laugh you are comparing blood thirsty terrorists to freedom fighters battling for rights to their own land and freedom?

Austine1213:


They were suppose to fight apartheid not infrastructure ment for the country to function!

In your view when terrorist bmbed a shopping center in Kenya it was OK,

Act like a terrorist, South like a terrorist you are classified a terrorist, Infact the anc was a pwawn in cold war between Russia n US,

lol yeah right come with another story pal

jln115:
Have you never heard of the Border War? Cuba sent 50 000 men to Angola...........and got absolutely slaughtered by the SADF