KINGwax007:
*collects mic from op*

Abeg... Which one be 'thief people' again?

Sorry, 'tiv peple', na im I wan say.

TonyeBarcanista:
Christianity as a religion like Islam was sold to us and adopted by some of us, it isn't a tribe. in fact, we most times uphold the religion alongside our traditional tenet.

That is why most people do Traditional wedding and Church Wedding. Even in Burial we observe traditional rites irrespective of religion.

kettle84:
there is nothing like a moslem tribe but there is what is known as predominantly moslem tribe in English language.



weather or not Christianity or Islam was imported,doesn't make a difference. any tribe haven embraced either religions above 90% is predominant of that religion.
e.g a predominantly Christian community, predominantly Christian country, predominantly Christian tribe e .t c

Kyase:

How was that, we didn't. It's Just that the other tribes are too puny to counter the tiv votes In this democracy.
Infact I wanted young alhaji then to become the governor then.

Orkpekyandega:
Marginalization Of Tiv People At The Federal LevelMarginalization Of Tiv People At The Federal Level; A case study of the Nigerian Military

By Stephen Orkuma

When I saw the list of candidates that were admitted into Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA), I laughed. In their orchestrated effort to crush the spirit of the Tiv people, they have ostracised them of all political appointments at the federal level and now they have extended the exclusion to the Military. This is where they got it wrong and they will regret it in the next few years. The success of an army in war depends on the mind of the soldiers. An army of 1000 cowards cannot stand an army of 100 brave men. The Tiv people are natural warriors:

It was not a fluke that the invading jihadists of 1804 to 1808 were crushed by the Tiv people after they conquered the Hausas and Nupes.
It was not a fluke that the Tiv people were the last ethnic group in Nigeria to be conquered by the British. Unlike the expedition in the Benin Kingdom by the British troops in 1897 where the Bini Empire was conquered, three times the British troops came with their gun power in Tiv territory; three times they were crushed by local fighters.
It was not a fluke that after the British used religion to win the Tiv over, they went ahead to recruit most of them for the First World War.
It was not a fluke that the Tiv people supplied the highest number of men in the Western Frontier Forces that fought on the British side in the Second World War.
It was not a fluke that a Tiv man, Col Joseph Akahan (The first Chief of Army Staff) mobilised the Nigerian troops for the civil war; a war he died in.
It was not a fluke that the Tiv people supplied the highest number of men to fight on the Nigerian side in the civil war.
It was not a fluke that the only officer that was able to stand the firepower of Col. Achuzia of the Biafran rebels was Col. Philemon Shande, even when other officers like Col. Olusegun Obasanjo ran away. Col. Philemon Shande was the only Colonel in the Nigerian army that died in the war.
It was not a fluke that Gen. Victor Malu ended the war in Liberia.
It was not a fluke that Gen. Gabriel Kpamber ended the war in Sierra Leone.
It was not a fluke that Major Gideon Orkar refused to mention the names of the soldiers that took part in his revolutionary activity when he was arrested. He died gallantly as a true soldier.
It was not a fluke that Lance Corporal Kenneth Kulugh was decorated with a Purple Heart medal by President Mohammadu Buhari for his bravery against Boko Haram. While his colleagues took to their heels when they were attacked by Boko Haram in Adamawa State, he alone crushed the terrorists. Unfortunately, he is presently in a wheelchair due to the bullet wounds he sustained from the attack.
It is not a fluke that Seaman Amaseimogha Paul of the Nigeria Navy saved the life of his colleagues after stepping on a landmine by alerting them to steer clear as far as they could go. He died while detonating the explosive.
And the list goes on…..

So if Nigeria like they should continue playing politics with the Nigerian Army by injecting cowards and preventing real soldiers from joining. Last year, a General in the Nigeria Army commanding Bama took to his heels immediately he sighted the ragtag Boko Haram army. Some other soldiers also cowardly refused to fight. Let me ask this simple question: Have you ever heard that a Tiv man ran away at the battlefront or the heat of war?

In terms of warfare, the Tiv people are the comparative advantage Nigeria has over other countries. They are natural warriors but the powers that be are trying to stampede them by drastically cutting down the number of Tiv boys that want to join the Nigerian Army.

The country is shooting itself in the foot because when “e set all cowards go take off run”.

.........Culled from a friend's Facebook page.

EnEnPeecee:
From the post:

"Let me ask this simple question: Have you ever heard that a Tiv man ran away at the battlefront or the heat of war

In terms of warfare, the Tiv people are the comparative advantage Nigeria has over other countries. They are natural warriors but Yet Fulani people are still on rampage in Tiv communities maiming and raping women as well as killing their so called warriors."


And My Humble Submission:

You are warriors yet Fulani ate killing your people daily.

These your empty chest beating cannot help a matter rather, go back to your people and strategize again on how to tame the beast called ''Fulani KillerMen''

Aufbauh:


You're economical with the truth. So what majority tribe did Oshomiole and Okowa came from in Edo and Delta states respectively before they won their election?
Democracy is not necessarily about equality but equity. It's all about concession and not brutality.
Since the existence of Benue state in 1976,the tivs have not seen any worthy Idoma or Igede sons to entrust the governorship on concession.

I know the writer is indirectly referring to the Idoma dominance in the military intake,the tivs could as well use their population to dominate at the federal level.
In life you can't have it all your way,so the writer should look inward for he that seek equity must do equity and of course equity lean against double portion.

cc: TonyeBarcanista

TonyeBarcanista:

But you guys(my Tiv Brothers) have been marginalising others at state level right from the days of old Benue state till date.

See my friend the issue of marginalisation in Nigeria is epidemic, it cuts across every strata. In fact, I can boldly say that every group feel marginalised.

The North including my Fulani, Hausa, Igala, Nupe etc brothers believe that the allocation remitted to them from the national purse is unfair when compared to what Niger Delta states get.

The Niger Delta believe that they deserve MORE than they currently get and feel marginalised. Even in appointment at federal level.

Ogoni feel marginalized in Rivers state.

Ijaws feel marginalized in Ondo, Edo and even Delta state.

Yoruba feel marginalised, Muslims feel marginalised, Christian feel marginalised.



WHO IS MARGINALISING OUR PEOPLE? Answer pls

ovadozes:
Endemic oga Tonye not epidemic, be careful oo, u be my man dat year

Aufbauh:


You're economical with the truth. So what majority tribe did Oshomiole and Okowa came from in Edo and Delta states respectively before they won their election?
Democracy is not necessarily about equality but equity. It's all about concession and not brutality.
Since the existence of Benue state in 1976,the tivs have not seen any worthy Idoma or Igede sons to entrust the governorship on concession.

I know the writer is indirectly referring to the Idoma dominance in the military intake,the tivs could as well use their population to dominate at the federal level.
In life you can't have it all your way,so the writer should look inward for he that seek equity must do equity and of course equity lean against double portion.

cc: TonyeBarcanista

TonyeBarcanista:

I used "epidemic" to relate it to a disease within the context.



I remain your man any day

ovadozes:

I ve modified it with an example bro, it was a a course in my final year sir, go check it up, after all u re a politician not a health practitioner

kettle84:
this is the reason why restructuring is necessary .productive areas must benefit from their God given resources while unproductive areas of this contraption, most strategize to be productive .the current system encourages marginalization.

Aufbauh:


You're economical with the truth. So what majority tribe did Oshomiole and Okowa came from in Edo and Delta states respectively before they won their election?
Democracy is not necessarily about equality but equity. It's all about concession and not brutality.
Since the existence of Benue state in 1976,the tivs have not seen any worthy Idoma or Igede sons to entrust the governorship on concession.

I know the writer is indirectly referring to the Idoma dominance in the military intake,the tivs could as well use their population to dominate at the federal level.
In life you can't have it all your way,so the writer should look inward for he that seek equity must do equity and of course equity lean against double portion.

cc: TonyeBarcanista

TonyeBarcanista:

I used "epidemic" to relate it to a disease within the context.



I remain your man any day

banki:


that's why a state like bayelsa
with one of the highest allocation from federation account
small population
nndc intervention
13%derivation
ministry of niger delta
royalties from oil companies
royalties from brass nlng
etc

cannot afford to pay salaries.....cannot undertake meaningful projects, cannot do anything
including paying salaries, still go cap in hand to collect bail out and then fail to pay salaries, my brothers and sisters this call for restructuring get as e be....

TonyeBarcanista:

But you guys(my Tiv Brothers) have been marginalising others at state level right from the days of old Benue state till date.

See my friend the issue of marginalisation in Nigeria is epidemic, it cuts across every strata. In fact, I can boldly say that every group feel marginalised.

The North including my Fulani, Hausa, Igala, Nupe etc brothers believe that the allocation remitted to them from the national purse is unfair when compared to what Niger Delta states get.

The Niger Delta believe that they deserve MORE than they currently get and feel marginalised. Even in appointment at federal level.

Ogoni feel marginalized in Rivers state.

Ijaws feel marginalized in Ondo, Edo and even Delta state.

Yoruba feel marginalised, Muslims feel marginalised, Christian feel marginalised.



WHO IS MARGINALISING OUR PEOPLE? Answer pls

andrilgodwin:
Can the Tivs show example by zoning the governorship to the Idomas for once? The Tivs marginalize the Idomas at the state level and still feel cheated at the achievements of the Idomas at the Federal level. Let the Tivs know it today, the Idomas have proved over time to be better administrators than the Tivs. The Idomas man has excelled at all appointments at the Federal level and the Tiv man is still struggling to bring Makurdi at per with other state Capitals created same time. Learn