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Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by makedisciples: 8:40am On Sep 13, 2016
Is there any woman after Christ allowed to head the Church? Is there any example of a woman who headed a Church in the Bible?

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by chiefolododo(m): 9:06am On Sep 13, 2016
If she is called of God to do so

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by kolaish(m): 9:58am On Sep 13, 2016
makedisciples:
Is there any woman after Christ allowed to head the Church? Is there any example of a woman who headed a Church in the Bible?
CHRIST WAS NEVER AGAINST ANY WOMAN LEADING, SHE HAS NEVER REBUKED ANY WOMAN FOR PLAYING LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE CHURCH. CHRIST MAY NOT WANT ANY CONTROVERSY TO TEAR APART HIS MINISTRY DUE TO JEWISH LAW THAT FORBIDS WOMAN TO LEAD, PROBABLY THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE REASON WHY THERE IS NO WOMAN IN HIS 12 DISCIPLES.

THE CRUCIAL POINTS ARE, HAS GOD EVER BEEN ANNOYED WITH A WOMAN BEING A PROPHET. Consider the following

1. MIRIAM

“Then the prophet Miriam, Aaron’s sister, took a tambourine in her hand; and all the women went out after her with tambourines and with dancing. And Miriam sang to them: ‘Sing to the LORD, for he has triumphed gloriously; horse and rider he has thrown into the sea’” (Exodus 15:20-21).


2. DEBORAH - was a prophetess and a judge in Israel

“At that time Deborah, a prophetess, wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel. She used to sit under the palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the Israelites came up to her for judgment” (Judges 4:4-5).

3. Isaiah wife was a prophetess - Isaiah 8:3

4. Huldah was a prophetess - 2 Kings 22:14

5. Noadiah was a prophetess

“Remember Tobiah and Sanballat, O my God, according to these things that they did, and also the prophetess Noadiah and the rest of the prophets who wanted to make me afraid” (Nehemiah 6:14).

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by makedisciples: 10:03am On Sep 13, 2016
I said after the coming of Jesus. As at the time Christianity started
kolaish:
CHRIST WAS NEVER AGAINST ANY WOMAN LEADING, SHE HAS NEVER REBUKED ANY WOMAN FOR PLAYING LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE CHURCH. CHRIST MAY NOT WANT ANY CONTROVERSY TO TEAR APART HIS MINISTRY DUE TO JEWISH LAW THAT FORBIDS WOMAN TO LEAD, PROBABLY THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE REASON WHY THERE IS NO WOMAN IN HIS 12 DISCIPLES.

THE CRUCIAL POINTS ARE, HAS GOD EVER BEEN ANNOYED WITH A WOMAN BEING A PROPHET. Consider the following

1. MIRIAM

“Then the prophet Miriam, Aaron’s sister, took a tambourine in her hand; and all the women went out after her with tambourines and with dancing. And Miriam sang to them: ‘Sing to the LORD, for he has triumphed gloriously; horse and rider he has thrown into the sea’” (Exodus 15:20-21).


2. DEBORAH - was a prophetess and a judge in Israel

“At that time Deborah, a prophetess, wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel. She used to sit under the palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the Israelites came up to her for judgment” (Judges 4:4-5).

3. Isaiah wife was a prophetess - Isaiah 8:3

4. Huldah was a prophetess - 2 Kings 22:14

5. Noadiah was a prophetess

“Remember Tobiah and Sanballat, O my God, according to these things that they did, and also the prophetess Noadiah and the rest of the prophets who wanted to make me afraid” (Nehemiah 6:14).

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by orisa37: 10:53am On Sep 13, 2016
A Church is an Assembly of Heart, Soul, Mind and Body. A Church is a Human Organization. Any competent Manager or Arrangee of Men, Means, Materials,Methods and Matters is a Master. And so, A Help Meet with experience and God's given skills, knowledge and Understanding can set up Churches and manage them. Heading a Church is "The Light" of Christ in any of His Apostles, male or female. Chauvinism in early Christianity prevented the mention of the full works of Mary Magdalene, Mary our Mother in Christ, Julie, Dorcas etcetera.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by johnydon22(m): 11:12am On Sep 13, 2016
Timothy 2:11-15


A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not
permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she
must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam
was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and
became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if
they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.


1st Corinthians 14:34

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission, as the law says.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by CoolUsername: 12:37pm On Sep 13, 2016
johnydon22:
Timothy 2:11-15


A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not
permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she
must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam
was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and
became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if
they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.


1st Corinthians 14:34

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission, as the law says.

I love the bible.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by raphieMontella: 12:39pm On Sep 13, 2016
CoolUsername:

I love the bible.
we fvcking love the bible!

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by hopefulLandlord: 12:39pm On Sep 13, 2016
CoolUsername:

I love the bible.
me too bro

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by hopefulLandlord: 12:40pm On Sep 13, 2016
CoolUsername:

I love the bible.
me too bro

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Sep 13, 2016
raphieMontella:

we fvcking love the bible!
I hate the bible undecided tongue
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by raphieMontella: 1:11pm On Sep 13, 2016
johnydon22:
Timothy 2:11-15


A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not
permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she
must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam
was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and
became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if
they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.


1st Corinthians 14:34

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission, as the law says.
34 the women should keep quiet in the meetings. They
are not allowed to speak; as the Jewish Law says,
they must not be in charge. 35 If they want to find out about something, they should ask their
husbands at home. It is a disgraceful thing for a
woman to speak in a church meeting


you didnt finish it sire

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by xender(m): 2:09pm On Sep 13, 2016
Mindless lifting
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by flamingREED(m): 2:28pm On Sep 13, 2016
kolaish:
CHRIST WAS NEVER AGAINST ANY WOMAN LEADING, SHE HAS NEVER REBUKED ANY WOMAN FOR PLAYING LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE CHURCH. CHRIST MAY NOT WANT ANY CONTROVERSY TO TEAR APART HIS MINISTRY DUE TO JEWISH LAW THAT FORBIDS WOMAN TO LEAD, PROBABLY THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE REASON WHY THERE IS NO WOMAN IN HIS 12 DISCIPLES.

THE CRUCIAL POINTS ARE, HAS GOD EVER BEEN ANNOYED WITH A WOMAN BEING A PROPHET. Consider the following

1. MIRIAM

“Then the prophet Miriam, Aaron’s sister, took a tambourine in her hand; and all the women went out after her with tambourines and with dancing. And Miriam sang to them: ‘Sing to the LORD, for he has triumphed gloriously; horse and rider he has thrown into the sea’” (Exodus 15:20-21).


2. DEBORAH - was a prophetess and a judge in Israel

“At that time Deborah, a prophetess, wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel. She used to sit under the palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the Israelites came up to her for judgment” (Judges 4:4-5).

3. Isaiah wife was a prophetess - Isaiah 8:3

4. Huldah was a prophetess - 2 Kings 22:14

5. Noadiah was a prophetess

“Remember Tobiah and Sanballat, O my God, according to these things that they did, and also the prophetess Noadiah and the rest of the prophets who wanted to make me afraid” (Nehemiah 6:14).

Excepting De'brah,
None of those people headed the church.

And talking about Deborah,
It's out of necessity that she took the responsibility.

Unless there's no living church around,
Otherwise such feminine ambition expired the day Paul penned down the following:

1 Timothy 2
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 BUT I SUFFER NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH, NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE.


From the apostles to the last of church leaders we find in the Bible,
There was no woman.

But women have their roles in the church:

They can lend a helping hand to the leadership-

Romans 16
3 Greet PRISCILLA and Aquila my HELPERS in Christ Jesus:

They MUST teach younger women:

Titus 2
3 THE AGED WOMEN LIKEWISE, THAT THEY BE IN BEHAVIOUR AS BECOMETH HOLINESS, NOT FALSE ACCUSERS, NOT GIVEN TO MUCH WINE, TEACHERS OF GOOD THINGS;
4 THAT THEY MAY TEACH THE YOUNG WOMEN TO BE SOBER, TO LOVE THEIR HUSBANDS, TO LOVE THEIR CHILDREN,
5 TO BE DISCREET, CHASTE, KEEPERS AT HOME, GOOD, OBEDIENT TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS, THAT THE WORD OF GOD BE NOT BLASPHEMED.

They MUST raise up seasoned ministers from childhood:

2 Timothy 1
5 When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.

2 Timothy 3
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Most importantly,
They shouldn't put be stumbling block on the men's calling like this:

Revelation 2
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to SEDUCE my servants to COMMIT FORNICATION, and to EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS.

(meanwhile some of them tell us to eat Salah meat - they're deceived anyway)

In the picture below I don't find any woman:

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by johnydon22(m): 2:52pm On Sep 13, 2016
raphieMontella:

34 the women should keep quiet in the meetings. They
are not allowed to speak; as the Jewish Law says,
they must not be in charge. 35 If they want to find out about something, they should ask their
husbands at home. It is a disgraceful thing for a
woman to speak in a church meeting


you didnt finish it sire

Thanks for doing that then brother

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by neocortex: 3:10pm On Sep 13, 2016
raphieMontella:

34 the women should keep quiet in the meetings. They
are not allowed to speak; as the Jewish Law says,
they must not be in charge. 35 If they want to find out about something, they should ask their
husbands at home. It is a disgraceful thing for a
woman to speak in a church meeting


you didnt finish it sire


So much hate for women from a supposedly loving "god".

Is this not another proof that the "god" concept is as misogynistic as the society
that invented it ?

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by FunkyMetahuman: 3:16pm On Sep 13, 2016
johnydon22:
Timothy 2:11-15


A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not
permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she
must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam
was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and
became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if
they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.


1st Corinthians 14:34

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission, as the law says.
isn't bible great cheesy
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by herald9: 4:24pm On Sep 13, 2016
I think amongst all the Nigerian pastors, it's Pastor Chris that is really in tune with the reality of the Bible.

Dude said creating a woman was not God's original plan, it was rather an afterthought.
And that a husband does not mean the male partner in marriage, it means 'master'.

I think all these Bible portions above lend credence to his assertions and considering the fact that the Christian God doesn't even have a wife, talk less of female angels.

Some people be attacking him when they don't even have an acute understanding of the foundation and philosophy of Judaism cum Christianity.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by CAPSLOCKED: 4:54pm On Sep 13, 2016
makedisciples:
Is there any woman after Christ allowed to head the Church? Is there any example of a woman who headed a Church in the Bible?




MAN, JUST FORGET IT.
RELIGION = ANTI-WOMEN.. PERIOD!

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by oaroloye(m): 6:34am On Sep 14, 2016
SHALOM!

Well, what The Bible says is clear:

. 1st CORINTHIANS 14:29-40.

29. Let the Prophets speak two or three,
and let the other judge.
30. If any thing be revealed
to another that sitteth by,
let the first hold his peace.
31. For ye may all Prophesy one-by-one,
that all may learn,
and all may be comforted.
32. And the Spirits of the Prophets
are subject to the Prophets.
33. For God is not the Author of Confusion,
but of Peace,
as in all Churches of the Saints.
34. Let your women keep silence
in the churches:
for it is not permitted unto them
to speak;
but they are Commanded
to be under Obedience,
as also saith The Law.
35. And if they will learn any thing,
let them ask their husbands at home:
for it is a shame for women
to speak in the church.
36. What? came The Word of God
out from you?
Or came it unto you only?
37. If any man think himself
to be a Prophet,
or Spiritual,
let him acknowledge
that the things that I write unto you
are the Commandments of the Lord.
38 But if any man be ignorant,
let him be ignorant.
39 Wherefore, Brethren,
covet to Prophesy,
and forbid not to speak with Tongues.
40. Let all things be done
Decently and in Order.

. 1st TIMOTHY 2:1-15.

I EXHORT therefore, that,
first of all, Supplications,
Prayers, Intercessions,
and Giving of Thanks,
be made for all men;
2. For kings,
and for all that are in Authority;
that we may lead
a Quiet and Peaceable Life
in all Godliness and Honesty.
3. For this is Good and Acceptable in
The Sight of God our Saviour;
4. Who will have all men to be saved,
and to come unto
The Knowledge of The Truth.
5. For there is one God,
and one Mediator
between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus;
6. Who gave himself a Ransom for all,
to be testified in due time.
7. Whereunto I am ordained a Preacher,
and an Apostle,
[I speak the truth in Christ,
and lie not;]
a Teacher of the Gentiles
in Faith and Verity.
8. I will therefore
that men Pray every where,
lifting up Holy Hands,
without wrath and doubting.
9. In like manner also,
that women adorn themselves
in Modest Apparel,
with Shamefacedness and Sobriety;
not with Broided Hair,
or Gold,
or Pearls,
or Costly Array;
10. But [which becometh women
professing godliness] with Good Works.
11. Let the woman learn
in silence with all subjection.
12. But I suffer not
a woman to teach,
nor to usurp authority over the man,
but to be in silence.
13. For Adam was first formed,
then Eve.
14. And Adam was not Deceived,
but the woman being Deceived
was in the Transgression.
15. Notwithstanding she shall be
saved in childbearing,
if they continue
in Faith and Charity
and Holiness with sobriety.

I AM A BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN, NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY ORGANIZED CHRISTIAN CHURCH. As such, I believe in what THE BIBLE says is THE GOSPEL, and THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD- NOT what SOMEBODY SAYS is THE GOSPEL and THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

I feel a great swell of COMPASSION toward the POOR FOOLS who are TIED IN KNOTS, trying to follow what SOMEBODY SAID is WHAT THEY OUGHT to do.

That is why I WORK HARD to get THE TRUTH out, to FREE THE PRISONERS. [What more do YOU do?]

THE GOSPEL therefore, is defined as follows:

. MARK 1:14-15.

14. Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching The Gospel of The Kingdom of God,
15. And saying,
"The Time is fulfilled,
and The Kingdom of God
is at hand:
REPENT YE,
and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL."

. MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a Witness unto all Nations;
and then shall The End come."

. MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth
shall pass away,
but my Words
shall not pass away."

. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the eleven Disciples
went away in Galilee,
into a mountain where
Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them,
saying,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all Nations,
Baptizing them in
The Name of The Father,
and of The Son,
and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
(even) unto The End of The World."
Amen.

DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE A BETTER DEFINITION?

Stuff thou it back up whence it camest out.

Use both hands.

And put thy back into it.

ONLY WHAT YAHSHUA PREACHED AND TAUGHT ON THE EARTH IS "THE GOSPEL." That is NON-NEGOTIABLE!

ORAL ROBERTS once prayed to know: "How can I know Jesus?" He was answered:

"READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, and the Book of ACTS- THREE times in THIRTY days!"

Kenneth Copeland said that he did it on his knees,
At the end of the thirty days, he testified, he now knew Jesus better than he knew any man on the Face of the Earth!

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out, and departed from The Temple: and his Disciples came to (him) for to shew him the buildings of The Temple.
2. And Jesus said unto them,
"See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER,
THAT SHALL NOT BE
THROWN DOWN.' "

3. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the Disciples came unto him privately, saying,
"Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be The Sign of thy Coming, and of The End of the World?"
4. And Jesus answered and said unto them,
"Take heed that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come in my Name, saying I am Christ, and shall deceive many."

ACCORDING TO YAHSHUA'S TEACHING, ANYBODY SAYING THAT YAHSHUA IS THE HaMISHIACH IS A DECEIVER: PERIOD.

It will come as a HUGE surprise to THOUSANDS of MILLIONS of Christians and non-Christians alike, that YAHSHUA FORBADE ANY MAN TO TELL THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH.

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came into
the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples,
"Whom do man say that I,
The Son of Man am?"
14. And they said,
"Some (say that thou art)
John the Baptist: some Elias;
and others,
Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."
15. He saith unto them,
"But whom say ye that I am?"
16. And Simon Peter answered
and said,
"Thou art The Christ,
The Son of The Living God."
17. And Jesus answered
and said unto him,
"Blessed art thou,
Simon Bar-Jona:
for flesh and blood
hath not revealed (It) unto you,
but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I say also unto unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL
AGAINST IT.'

19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."
20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus the Christ.

I DO NOT MAKE THE GOSPEL: I MERELY REPORT THE GOSPEL.

Everything anyone who tells you "JESUS IS THE CHRIST" is SUSPECT.

When you DON'T KNOW who Yahshua might be, your mind goes into a profound agitation, trying to figure it out.

Left to yourself, this agitation will continue, until you hear THE VOICE OF GOD telling you:

"HE IS THE CHRIST AND MY SON!"

The agitation will stop, and REVELATION will POLARIZE.

Like a ROCK forming.

Like CONCRETE.

This Knowledge will stay with you FOR LIFE.

THAT is THE ROCK that THE CHURCH OF YAHSHUA is built upon.

But when SOME MAN tells you that "JESUS IS THE CHRIST," that agitation STOPS SHORT of COMMUNICATION WITH GOD.

Also, you will be bound to THAT person who EXPLAINED JESUS TO YOU. They generally introduce you to a BIG BROTHER, or CO-BRETHREN TEACHERS.

If there is any DOUBT in THAT person's INTEGRITY, it will become a DOUBT OF JESUS. As a RULE, such people NEVER Believe MORE of The Gospel than THEIR TEACHERS do

If they do not believe in DIVINE HEALING, YOU won't, either- even if your LIFE depends on it. They are your MASTERS; you are their SLAVE.

In that state, that can feed you ANY BULLSHIT they WANT: and you MUST eat it.

I am also learned in DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY, and the first thing an AUDITOR wants to know, is:

"WHEN DID YOU START TO BELIEVE THIS?"

The Secret of MIND KONTROL ULTRA is that the victims must FORGET being COMMANDED.

Therefore the HYPNOSIS is installed while in a state of DEEP UNCONSCIOUSNESS.

If you can do that, you can Mind Kontrol a person immediately. If you can't, you must employ TRICKS to install the Demolishing Kommands into the SUBCONSCIOUS MIND.

Everybody knows about ADAM AND STEVE, right?

No?

Okay- the Doctrine of HOMOSEXUALITY won't sell here, then.

ADAM and EVE, right? Everybody knows about ADAM AND EVE?

So PAUL SAYS:

"WOMEN ARE UNRELIABLE!"

That makes people defensive, even angry, so PAUL JUSTIFIES his Assertion with:

"EVE WAS DECEIVED- BUT NOT ADAM."

Everybody is like:

"Ye-e-a-a-h-h! I NEVER THOUGHT of it like THAT before!"

While they are in THAT state, they RECEIVE THE DIRECTIVE to SILENCE Women in the Church.

Which YAHSHUA never Taught.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by raphieMontella: 6:46am On Sep 14, 2016
oaroloye
are you an apostle undecided ? U seem to hate paul undecided
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by oaroloye(m): 8:25am On Sep 14, 2016
SHALOM!

PAUL was a DECEIVER, who played upon the IGNORANCE OF GENTILE CHRISTIANS, to teach them ANTI-GOSPEL Teachings, without their Knowledge.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
Which I Command thee this day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in and possess the Land
which The LORD sware
unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember
all the Way which
The LORD led thee
these forty years in the Wilderness,
to humble thee,
(and) to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with Manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might make thee know that

"MAN DOTH NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ONLY,
BUT BY EVERY (WORD)
THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF
THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."

4. Thy raiment
waxed not old upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell,
these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also
consider in thine heart,

"THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
(SO) THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE."

6. Therefore thou shalt
keep The Commandments
of The LORD thy God,
to walk in his Ways,
and to fear Him.

WHY IS THIS TEACHING NOT QUOTED BY EVERY NEW TESTAMENT WRITER?

Even because THEY DIDNT WANT THE GENTILES TO KNOW ABOUT IT!

Oh? You didn't KNOW that?

. ACTS 15:12-21.

12. Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what Miracles and Wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13. And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying,
"Men (and) Brethren, hearken unto me:
14. "Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for His Name.
15. "And to this agree The Words of The Prophets; as it is written,
16. 'After this I will Return,
And will build again
The Tabernacle of David,
Which is fallen down;
And I will build again the Ruins thereof,
And I will set It up.
17. 'That the Residue of Men
Might seek unto The LORD,
And all the Gentiles
Upon whom My Name is called,
saith The LORD, Who Doeth all these Things.'
18. "Known unto God are all His Works From The Beginning of the World.
19. "Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20. "But that we write unto them, that they abstain from Pollutions of Idols, and (from) Fornication, and (from) Things Strangled, and (from) Blood.
21. "For Moses hath of Old Time hath in every city then that preach him, being read in the Synagogues every Sabbath Day.
22. Then pleased it the Apostles and Elders, with the whole Church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; (namely), Judas surnamed Barnabas, and Silas, chief men among the Brethren:
23. And they wrote (Letters) by them after this manner;
"The Apostles and Elders and Brethren (send) greeting unto the Brethren which were of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24. "Forasmuch as we have heard that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying,
"Ye (must) be circumcised and keep The Law;"
to whom we gave no (such) Commandment.
25. "It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26. "Men that have hazarded their lives for the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27. "We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell (you) the same things by mouth.
28. "For it seemed good to The Holy Ghost and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29. " "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols,
and from blood, and from things strangled,
and from Fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves,
ye shall do well."
Fare ye well."
30. So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the Epistle:
31. (Which) when they had read, they rejoiced for the Consolation.

THIS WAS WHERE THE JEWISH CHRISTIANS CONSPIRED TO BAN THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS FROM LEARNING THE BIBLE.

You either never heard this your whole life, or else a "SPIN" was put on it, so that you thought that it was something different.

JAMES- the BROTHER of Yahshua, who OPPOSED The Gospel when YAHSHUA preached It- said that if the Gentiles wanted to hear THE TORAH that badly, THEY SHOULD GO TO THE JEWISH UNBELIEVERS, and listen to them reading the Torah in their Synagogue.

You know- the people who just killed their Lord.

Of course they will make THEM just as WELCOME as they made YAHSHUA. I mean- they only CRUCIFIED his ass!

This tells us that THEY DID NOT Teach THE LAW in THe CHURCH!

"MOST CHRISTIANS
FEED THEIR BODIES
THREE HOT MEALS
PER DAY,
AND THEIR SOULS,
ONE COLD SNACK
PER WEEK-
-AND THEN WONDER
WHY THEY HAVE
NO FAITH
FOR HEALING!"
- F.F. Bosworth.

THE LAW OF MOSES IS THE BASIS OF FAITH.

It FEEDS the SOUL.

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and shalt have good success."


. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man that walketh not in the Counsel of the Ungodly, nor standeth in the Way of Sinners, nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But His Delight is in The Law of The LORD, and in His Law doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season, his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the Wind driveth away.
5. Therefore the Ungodly shall not stand in the Judgment, nor Sinners in the Congregation of the Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth the Way of the Righteous: but the Way of the Ungodly shall perish.


. PSALM 119:11.

11. Thy Word have I hid in mine heart,
that I might not Sin against thee.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law! It (is) my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments hast made me wiser than mine Enemies: for they (are) ever with me.
99. I have more understanding than all my Teachers: for Thy Testimonies (are) my meditation.
100. I understand more than the Ancients, because I keep thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet from every Evil Way, that I may keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed from Thy Judgments: for Thou hast Taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words unto my taste! (Yea, sweeter) than honey to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every False Way.
105. Thy Word (is) a Lamp unto my feet, and a Light unto Thy Path.

WHAT DO ALL THESE SCRIPTURES HAVE IN COMMON?

1. They all teach that THE SECRET OF SUCCESS
is MEDITATION IN THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES.

2. They were all known to every New Testament writer.

3. They were NEVER MENTIONED by ANY New Testament Writer.

SOLE RATIONAL CONCLUSION:

THE NEW TESTAMENT WRITERS DID NOT WANT THEIR READERS TO KNOW ABOUT THESE SCRIPTURES FROM THEM, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO HELP THEM TO SUCCEED.

Is there Scripture for that?

. DEUTERONOMY 23:6.

6. Thou shalt not seek
their Peace
nor their Prosperity
all thy days
for ever.

SINCE THEY WERE ALL ANTI-GENTILE, THEY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO USE THE SIMEON/LEVI SHECHEM PROTOCOLS TO DESTROY THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS, WHO WANTED TO "DESECRATE" THE SPIRIT OF GOD- AS THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN IT.

. LEVITICUS 19:11-14.

11. "Ye shall not Steal, neither Deal Falsely; neither Lie to one another.
12. "And ye shall not swear by My Name falsely, neither shalt thou profane The Name of thy God: I (am) The LORD.
13. "Thou shalt not Defraud thy Neighbour, neither Rob (him): the Wages of him that is Hired shall not remain with thee all night until the morning.
14. "Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the Blind, but shalt fear thy God: I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever I Command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
IF THERE arise among you a Prophet, or a Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying,
"Let us go after other gods,
Which thou hast not known,
And let us serve them."
3. Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams: for The LORD thy God proveth you, to know whether ye love The LORD your God with all your Heart and with all your Soul.
4. Ye shall walk after The LORD your God, and Fear Him, and Keep His Commandments, and obey His Voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him.
5. And that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams, shall be put to Death; because he hath spoken to turn (you) away from The LORD your God, Which brought you out of The Land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of The House of Bondage, to thrust thee out of The Way which The LORD thy God Commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the Evil away from the midst of thee.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:17-19.

17. Cursed (be) he that removeth his neighbour's landmark.
And all the people shall say, "Amen."
18. Cursed (be) he that maketh the Blind to wander out of the way.
And all the people shall say, "Amen."
19. Cursed (be) he that perverteth the Judgment of the Stranger, Fatherless, and Widow.
And all the people shall say, "Amen."

THE EPISTLE WRITERS WERE DELIBERATELY VIOLATING THESE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, IN ORDER TO DESTROY THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS.

. GALATIANS 1:6-9.

6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into The Grace of Christ unto Another Gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert The Gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an Angel from Heaven, preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again,
"If any (man) preach any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

. GALATIANS 1:11-12.

11. But I certify you, Brethren, that the Gospel which is preached of me is not after Man.
12. For I neither received it of Man, neither was I taught (it), but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

PAUL REJECTED THE GOSPEL YAHSHUA COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES TO TEACH THE WORLD- MADE UP HIS OWN, TOTALLY-FAKE, GOSPEL- AND THEN CURSED ANYBODY WHO DID THE SAME THING HE DID, AND THE ANGEL THAT MIGHT BRING SUCH A REVELATION!

That should be PROOF ENOUGH, that this man was NEVER a Christian.

. MATTHEW 5:43-45.

43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'Thou shalt Love thy Neighbour,
And Hate thine Enemy.'

44. "But I say you,

'Love your Enemies,
Bless them that Curse you,
Do Good to them that Hate you,
And Pray For them
Which despitefully use you,
And Persecute you;'

45. "That ye may be The Children of your Father Which is in Heaven: for He maketh His Sun to rise on The Evil and on The Good, and sendeth Rain on the Just and on the Unjust."

OR WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH US TO CURSE ANYBODY?

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe
(that) observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they (themselves) will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men;
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called "Rabbi:" for one is your Master, (even) Christ; and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth: for One is your Father, which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, (even) Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you shall be your Servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men: for ye neither go in (yourselves), neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the Child of Hell than yourselves."

THEREFORE PAUL'S TEACHINGS PERFECTLY EXPRESS WHAT YAHSHUA CALLED: "THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES."

When he says to DO GOOD Things, HE DID NOT do those things.

When he prescribes EVIL things- that does not mean that HE DOES THEM, either. But he wants YOU to THINK that it is ALL RIGHT to do them YOURSELF.

For instance, HE SAID that it was OKAY to eat UNCLEAN MEATS- and THEN he SAID that HE was a VEGETARIAN! (Or maybe an INSECTIVORE? Naah!)

Most Christians are ignorant of the TRUTH that THEY HAVE NO RIGHT to tell us HOW TO LIVE OUR LIVES BEFORE GOD.

Only YAHSHUA has that Right.

You will NEVER hear that from the FAKE CHURCH LEADERS.

The SLAVISH Belief that THE WHOLE BIBLE is THE WORD OF GOD and CHRISTIANS MUST OBEY ALL New Testament Writers quoted to them by a CHURCH LEADER is ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE.

Protestant Church Leaders use it, because THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE POPE THE WHOLE TIME.

Those who say that they do not know this are LYING.

They might say that THEY DIDN'T KNOW where their DOCTRINES ultimately came from.

That is DISSEMBLY.

WHO OWNS the DENOMiNATIONS, and the BIBLE SCHOOLS that taught their CLERGYMEN?

At some point, THE JESUIT ORDER will be telling them:

"Okay! HERE is what you MUST/MUST NOT Teach- or else-!"

That will include SUBJUGATING FEMALE INITIATIVE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK STOPS WOMEN FROM FORMING THEiR OWN, ALL-FEMALE CHURCHES- WITH NO MEN TO HOLD THEM BACK?
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by Pureheart91(m): 1:26pm On Sep 14, 2016
@ the post above :
I believe you know that all dy contents of the bible are subject of Revelations and insights from the MOST HIGH....

The Mosiac Law was as a revelation from God.
The epistless of Paul was as a revelation from Christ.

This same paul u abhor; was confirmed and accepted by Christ's Disciples...

I marvel when u entirely fail to Understand the precepts of the Coming of "Emmanuel" the Christ. Such show of lack of understanding brings doubt to ur ideology.

Paul an Apostle had a calling of spreadn d gospel to the outsiders(non-jewish) and ultimately spoke deligiently about the most important things which are

-Christ as the recompense of sins
-Love, Faith and Peace as the sole constitutes of salvation
-exhortation to the Brethens

And hey! I wonder who wrote ephesians,galatians,chorinthians,colosians........if its who i think then u wud see what he wrote concernin
-the deeds of the flesh
-spititual constituents
-sin and itss consequencies


I may not know the bible as u do, but i just want u to appreciate the connection btw the old and New testament..

Who am i to judge? I only follow the scriptures and doctriness of Christ Jesus and no Man...

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by oaroloye(m): 9:33pm On Sep 14, 2016
raphieMontella:
oaroloye

are you an apostle undecided ?
U seem to hate paul undecided

Who cares about stupid titles?

Telling the truth about what people did means that you hate them?

Instead of talking about FACTS, you are THEORIZING about my FEELINGS- which are none of your damn business.

Typical Shill Oratory Evasive Tactics.
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by Iseoluwani: 10:14pm On Sep 14, 2016
neocortex:



So much hate for women from a supposedly loving "god".

Is this not another proof that the "god" concept is as misogynistic as the society
that invented it ?


It z better to be quiet than act folly

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by raphieMontella: 10:19pm On Sep 14, 2016
oaroloye:


Who cares about stupid titles?

Telling the truth about what people did means that you hate them?

Instead of talking about FACTS, you are THEORIZING about my FEELINGS- which are none of your damn business.

Typical Shill Oratory Evasive Tactics.
sorry sire

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by kolaish(m): 11:54am On Sep 15, 2016
flamingREED:


Excepting De'brah,
None of those people headed the church.

And talking about Deborah,
It's out of necessity that she took the responsibility.

Unless there's no living church around,
Otherwise such feminine ambition expired the day Paul penned down the following:

1 Timothy 2
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 BUT I SUFFER NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH, NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE.


From the apostles to the last of church leaders we find in the Bible,
There was no woman.

But women have their roles in the church:

They can lend a helping hand to the leadership-

Romans 16
3 Greet PRISCILLA and Aquila my HELPERS in Christ Jesus:

They MUST teach younger women:

Titus 2
3 THE AGED WOMEN LIKEWISE, THAT THEY BE IN BEHAVIOUR AS BECOMETH HOLINESS, NOT FALSE ACCUSERS, NOT GIVEN TO MUCH WINE, TEACHERS OF GOOD THINGS;
4 THAT THEY MAY TEACH THE YOUNG WOMEN TO BE SOBER, TO LOVE THEIR HUSBANDS, TO LOVE THEIR CHILDREN,
5 TO BE DISCREET, CHASTE, KEEPERS AT HOME, GOOD, OBEDIENT TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS, THAT THE WORD OF GOD BE NOT BLASPHEMED.

They MUST raise up seasoned ministers from childhood:

2 Timothy 1
5 When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.

2 Timothy 3
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Most importantly,
They shouldn't put be stumbling block on the men's calling like this:

Revelation 2
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to SEDUCE my servants to COMMIT FORNICATION, and to EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS.

(meanwhile some of them tell us to eat Salah meat - they're deceived anyway)

In the picture below I don't find any woman:
REMEMBER THAT PAUL IS NOT GOD NOR CHRIST. HE GAVE THOSE WORDS AS AN ADVICE, NOT AS INSTRUCTION OR AUTHORITY. THE REASON IS THAT THE JEWISH LAW DOES NOT PLACE WOMEN IN EXALTED POSITION. SO, PAUL DOESNT WANT ANY CONTROVERSY IN THE HOUSE OF GOD. YOU CAN DO YOUR RESEARCH ABOUT THAT THOUGH.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by nmreports: 9:09am On Sep 18, 2016
For me, there isnt any law that says women should not head a chuch in the new testament.

Simple as ABC. No point quoting scriptures.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by jodavid(m): 9:09am On Sep 18, 2016
K
johnydon22:
Timothy 2:11-15
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not
permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she
must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam
was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and
became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if
they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
1st Corinthians 14:34
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,
but must be in submission, as the law says.
There is no better answer than this quote..
I just wonder why people still argue about this issue when it's plainly written.
As a Christian, you have to accept the totality of the Bible..doing one part,, and disobeying another part means you are in aversion.

Paul was filled with the Holy Spirit and thus spoke this words.
Let God's word be the truth and every man's word be a lie.

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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by iamphotoshoot(m): 9:12am On Sep 18, 2016
Nope.
Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by researcherdotcom(m): 9:15am On Sep 18, 2016
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Re: Is It Right For A Woman To Head A Church? by VocalWalls: 9:17am On Sep 18, 2016
Nothing wrong with it.

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