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Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 4:52pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: You're welcome |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by hahn(m): 4:52pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: Let's meet at Igbobi so you can perform your miracles |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:54pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: I've read many books on evolution, but I've not understood how a bacteria can change into a worm. Please explain to me. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 4:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Agumentun ad hominem. Towing your line, since you happened to finish biology class conclusively, please answer my question. Again, please suggest one biology textbook for me which you believe can answer my question and I'll gladly read. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 5:09pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: It's childish when some folks here argue just to protect their beliefs while rejecting or ignoring verifiable facts which they don't know prior to the argument. 1 Like |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:12pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: Produce the verifiable facts which we didn't know before now. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:16pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234:I have no obligations to do so. You can start with Google, and then find a public library. This is the information age. Atheists on the other hand, read the Bible thoroughly, in fact , much more thoroughly than Christians, before we come here to repudiate stone age myths. Infact, reading the Bible thoroughly is the gateway to agnosticism and atheism. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by sinequanon: 5:16pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: You are not honest, and you know it. You are evading facts, and then claiming to be rational. Explain how it is that the Nobel Prize has been awarded to Peter Higgs because "the existence of the Higgs Boson has been confirmed", when the black and white evidence shows that it has not been confirmed. What you are is a cheerleader. A lot of scientists are cheerleaders, too. Numbers of supporting cheerleaders means nothing when it comes to facts. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:21pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Lol. I doubt that you did. Sorry, that' nobody's fault but your own shortcomings. In fact, your statements alone show that it's beyond your grasp, because you're still thinking in magical terms like , Jesus turning water into wine and 5 fishes and loaves multiplying to feed thousands. This is your problem. 2 Likes |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:22pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Is that the reason why I always expose the ignorance of atheists in Bible matters?
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Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:26pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: I spotted about two or more logical fallacies in this post: 1. Argumentum ad hominem 2. Appeal to ridicule (Horse Laugh). |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 5:34pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:By saying "we" in your reply, you believe that you fall into the category of people I'm referring to right? Nice! Good job. When next we argue, if I have a verifiable fact which you didn't know a priori, I'll call your attention to it, and vice versa because I'd like to learn new stuff. agreed? |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: You could have been included in that "we", you know... So, you mean that for this argument, there is no verifiable fact which we didn't know? Hmm. That's a bonus to us. Agreed. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 5:47pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
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Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 5:56pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: I have researched thoroughly on evolution and still came to the same conclusion: animals do evolve through mutation, natural selection et al but that's not sufficient to explain the diversity of life form. Not every information you get through Google search is factual. Anybody can put information on the internet and Google will bring it up. Since you picked to discuss the bible, the holy book of christians, let us go there. Studying a book to understanding it is different from studying to discover loophole. Bible is a collection of different books written over a long period. The consistency is unrivaled. You can't say same of your science textbook. 1 Like |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: The quote of the century. How does a rational person argue with that I give up. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 6:00pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Give yourself a standing ovation . |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 6:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton:
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Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 6:11pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: You have drawn your conclusion on evolution based on your limited research. Nice of your inquisitive mind. But this conclusion of yours which you hold and believe in, remains your opinion and doesn't automatically stand as the ultimate truth. It doesn't prove or disprove the evolution theory. Does it? |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 6:26pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Please don't give up. Come let's finish it off. Attack the comment and leave the person. Fact: science is full of theories that were earlier held in high esteem in the scientific community but later repudiated. By inference, the very tool of science, science is not an end in itself. It keeps evolving and cannot be trusted to answer all my questions. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 6:32pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: Welcome on board. With your unlimited research help me out with explanation for this and I'll not have any doubt on evolution of man: 1) explain how evolved animals appear in pairs ( male and female) 2) how the first evolved man escaped predators because he couldn't have evolved with tools. Thank you in advance. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 6:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: Thank you too. I rightly mentioned that you conducted your 'limited' research. It doesn't imply that I conducted 'unlimited' research. So, in the light of that, I'm sorry I can't explain the issues you highlighted. I don't even know if what you have asked me to explain is correct in the first place. But you can still react to my previous post "your opinion on evolution can't stand as 'ultimate truth' thereby proving or disproving the theory". Do you agree with me? |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 6:53pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: You show that you , in this 21st century, are still clueless about what science is. I find it funny how mad you guys are because you neither understand what science is or fail to grasp simple scientific ideas and norms. And then you lash out at atheists for your lack of understanding. In a way, I only pity and don't blame most of you guys. You're a product of a bad system,. a system that doesn't encourage rational thinking. With clowns like Adeboye, Oyedepo , Mbaka etc titillating you simpletons with magic, abracadabra and smoked and mirrors, your minds have been hardwired to be aversive to scientific rationalism. Like you said, science is not an end, but a PROCESS of discovery. That old ideas can be discarded for new discoveries is what makes science the truly preeminent SYSTEM , the preeminent arbiter of reality. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 7:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: Sorry to have burdened you with the question. I thought as a molecular biologist that you'll have the answers. However, I've drawn a conclusion: if asked by fellow biologist you'll allude to evolution even though you don't know. I'll therefore suggest you implore your fellow biologist to assist you in imbibing evolution before you ask the respective religious ardent followers to proof God's existence. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 7:12pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: Its okay. An Evolutionary Biologist would provide a satisfactory answer maybe. For now, i study individual genes. I ain't asking anyone to provide proof of Gods existence though. But are you stylishly disagreeing with me that "your opinion may not be ultimate truth"? You are digressing. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 7:25pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Dear, you're still committing same error: argumentum ad hominem. Religion and science are different matters. Science has its place. Upon it discoveries, technolgy is built. But science can't answer the question of God because it's purely a religious matter. It's foolhardy that tend to use science to discredit religious views. If you believe there's no God so be it but don't try to use science to buttress your point. Because, I'll always be here to expose you. Science cannot proof or disproof God's existence. If because I'm a Nigerian, I'm a product of bad system. Are there no religious followers in advance countries? |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by onetrack(m): 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: The quote says that it may be dismissed without evidence, not that it should be or must be. Many of the great discoveries came from wild hypotheses which later had to be proved. The problem is that many theist say that their god exists and that their religion is true. I cannot disprove the existence of their god(s) but religion being divine can be easily disproved. Evolution is absolutely not based on assumption, but on very careful and testable evidence. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:30pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: Ask am o.
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Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by onetrack(m): 7:30pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: MRI scans as well as facial expressions, tone of voice etc. |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by mank1234(m): 7:36pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: No comment. Let's wait for an evolutionary biologist to join the thread. Digressing? Remind me what the argument was! |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:38pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
onetrack:So MRI scan is used to detect jealousy in human beings? Hhahhahahahha |
Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DeSepiero(m): 7:39pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: DeSepiero:[quote author=mank1234 post=49860649] |
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