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Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 8:54pm On Oct 05, 2016
Abiogenesis (Brit.: /ˌeɪˌbaɪoʊˈdʒɛnᵻsᵻs, -ˌbaɪə-, -ˌbiːoʊ-, -
ˌbiːə-/[1][2][3][4] AY-by-oh-JEN-ə-siss or AY-bee-oh-JEN-ə-
siss) or biopoiesis[5] or OoL (Origins of Life),[6] is the
natural process of life arising from non-living matter, such as
simple organic compounds.[7][8][9][10] It is thought to have
occurred on Earth between 3.8 and 4.1[11] billion years ago.
Abiogenesis is studied through a combination of laboratory
experiments and extrapolation from the characteristics of
modern organisms, and aims to determine how pre-life
chemical reactions gave rise to life on Earth.[12]






Have a look at the definition, *IT IS THOUGHT TO HAVE OCCURRED* by who? Humans like us.

The fact about evolution is that, they are not sure of anything they talk about, They keep using words like could have, may have, must have etc. Their was no witness to evolution, no one saw the lightning that struck d pond filled with bacteria. No one saw the bacteria forming into a new specie. No one knows what the 1st specie d bacteria evolved to.

What evidence is der that evolution actually happened? None. No one knows what part of the body the bacteria evolved 1st, no one knows the gender that evolved 1st. Evolution stands on nothing, evolution have no foundation.

Can a non living thing actually produce a living thing?
Re: Abiogenesis by Seun(m): 10:01pm On Oct 05, 2016
Their was no witness to evolution, no one saw the lightning that struck d pond filled with bacteria.
No one saw the bacteria forming into a new specie. No one knows what the 1st specie d bacteria evolved to.
Is there any witness to creation? Did anyone see God creating the 'heavens and the earth' and forming man from dust? Do you have the video?

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Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 10:12pm On Oct 05, 2016
Seun:

Is there any witness to creation? Did anyone see God creating the 'heavens and the earth' and forming man from dust? Do you have the video?


None. But everything is as it was said. All after their kind and still after der kind after many yrs no change. A whale is still a whale. A cow is still a cow.

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Re: Abiogenesis by akintom(m): 10:56pm On Oct 05, 2016
adjoviomole:



None. But everything is as it was said. All after their kind and still after der kind after many yrs no change. A whale is still a whale. A cow is still a cow.

Your creationist position is just a tale by moonlight that all traditional religions (including Judeo-Christianity) have the variants of this same story.

Now in your Bible, how did your god assigned Noah gathered microscopic organisms(that lives in air and water) into the fable ark? Since everything not in the ark were destroyed.
Re: Abiogenesis by akintom(m): 11:09pm On Oct 05, 2016
adjoviomole:



None. But everything is as it was said. All after their kind and still after der kind after many yrs no change. A whale is still a whale. A cow is still a cow.

Moses was said to have written genesis, probably he got the story from God tru vision, dream or audible dictation from God.

How is this model of documentation different from the ones by Muhammad, yoruba, grecian, Chinese mythologists?

Go read their stories of creation, it's all the same. And remember that these stories dated before the arrival of Jewish version(genesis) in yoruba land tru colonization for example. So that a case of yoruba mythologists copying genesis will not be an explanation for the sameness.
Re: Abiogenesis by DeSepiero(m): 11:41pm On Oct 05, 2016
adjoviomole:
... Evolution stands on nothing, evolution have no foundation.


Coming from an idle Nairalander, with 20mb, a smart phone, internet and most likely no degree.

smh.

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Re: Abiogenesis by CltrAltDelicious(m): 2:57am On Oct 06, 2016
Op I bet you know nothing about evolution.
Just another attention seeker
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 7:53am On Oct 06, 2016
DeSepiero:


Coming from an idle Nairalander, with 20mb, a smart phone, internet and most likely no degree.

smh.


Just go back to sleep, will u!
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 7:58am On Oct 06, 2016
akintom:


Moses was said to have written genesis, probably he got the story from God tru vision, dream or audible dictation from God.

How is this model of documentation different from the ones by Muhammad, yoruba, grecian, Chinese mythologists?

Go read their stories of creation, it's all the same. And remember that these stories dated before the arrival of Jewish version(genesis) in yoruba land tru colonization for example. So that a case of yoruba mythologists copying genesis will not be an explanation for the sameness.


The bible itself is even older than islam nt to talk of wen christianity started. What about ur evolution, who saw the lightning that struck the pond filled with bacteria? How did they even know a lighting struck it!? It was all a guess work, with no fact.

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Re: Abiogenesis by hopefulLandlord: 8:01am On Oct 06, 2016
Seun:

Is there any witness to creation? Did anyone see God creating the 'heavens and the earth' and forming man from dust? Do you have the video?

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Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 8:02am On Oct 06, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:
Op I bet you know nothing about evolution.
Just another attention seeker


Hello! That definition is from wikipedia. As u can see it says '' it is thought to have'' . Thought of who? A man like u, a guess work of a man, no evidence, no witness, just a thought(guess)
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 8:05am On Oct 06, 2016
akintom:


Your creationist position is just a tale by moonlight that all traditional religions (including Judeo-Christianity) have the variants of this same story.

Now in your Bible, how did your god assigned Noah gathered microscopic organisms(that lives in air and water) into the fable ark? Since everything not in the ark were destroyed.


Can u even hear urself. And who told u the water covered the whole world as in to the brim? Use ur sense na.

Number 2- it was covered with water so microscopic organisms that liv in water av no problem, do they?
Re: Abiogenesis by raphieMontella: 8:35am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:


Just go back to sleep, will u!
the internet is not costly..
Information is at your doorstep these days... Even if you dont believe it...just try and read evolution up.. So that you wont be asking some kind of weird questions...

Cheers..
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 8:54am On Oct 06, 2016
raphieMontella:

the internet is not costly..

Information is at your doorstep these days...
Even if you dont believe it...just try and read evolution up..
So that you wont be asking some kind of weird questions...


Cheers..


How did evolution start if I mas ask? And besides d definition up der was copied directly from wikipedia so what is ur point?
Re: Abiogenesis by CltrAltDelicious(m): 9:08am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



Hello! That definition is from wikipedia. As u can see it says '' it is thought to have'' . Thought of who? A man like u, a guess work of a man, no evidence, no witness, just a thought(guess)
my question is have you actually took your time to study how evolution works? And Wikipedia is not a reliable source for educational research
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 9:33am On Oct 06, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:

my question is have you actually took your time to study how evolution works? And Wikipedia is not a reliable source for educational research


Like criosly cheesy wikipedia is nt a reliable source? cheesy grin.

Ok some billion yrs ago, a lightning from nowhere struck a pond filled with bacteria and this bacteria are d genesis of all life forms, is that not it? cheesy grin grin . My question is who saw this lightning? grin grin
Re: Abiogenesis by Ranchhoddas: 9:38am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



Like criosly cheesy wikipedia is nt a reliable source? cheesy grin.

Ok some billion yrs ago, a lightning from nowhere struck a pond filled with bacteria and this bacteria are d genesis of all life forms, is that not it? cheesy grin grin . My question is who saw this lightning? grin grin
Once your goal is to argue, you'd never learn anything. SMH.
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 9:42am On Oct 06, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Once your goal is to argue, you'd never learn anything. SMH.


Stylishly evade it. I understand. is that not how evolution started? Lightning striking a pond? Just ansa yes or no. grin grin
Re: Abiogenesis by Ranchhoddas: 9:47am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



Stylishly evade it. I understand. is that not how evolution started? Lightning striking a pond? Just ansa yes or no. grin grin
People spend countless years of their lives studying these things but somehow you think you are smarter than all of them combined because you dey go church. Your problem is that you think evolution is anti-God... I feel very sorry for you?

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Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 9:51am On Oct 06, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
People spend countless years of their lives studying these things but somehow you think you are smarter than all of them combined because you dey go church. Your problem is that you think evolution is anti-God... I feel very sorry for you?


N how did dey study wat dey did nt see? Carbon dating the lightning shey? cheesy cheesy grin grin
Re: Abiogenesis by Ranchhoddas: 10:07am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



N how did dey study wat dey did nt see? Carbon dating the lightning shey? cheesy cheesy grin grin
It's a postulation. Olodo!
Re: Abiogenesis by CltrAltDelicious(m): 10:13am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



Like criosly cheesy wikipedia is nt a reliable source? cheesy grin.

Ok some billion yrs ago, a lightning from nowhere struck a pond filled with bacteria and this bacteria are d genesis of all life forms, is that not it? cheesy grin grin . My question is who saw this lightning? grin grin
yea seriously
Science may yet to give answer to some question but evolution is plausible compared to creationism
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 10:18am On Oct 06, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:

yea seriously
Science may yet to give answer to some question but evolution is plausible compared to creationism



Evolution is not plausible in any way. Same goes for both. So no one should judge the other as we can both be wrong. So let's wait till after our death to know who is actually right. Case closed.
Re: Abiogenesis by CltrAltDelicious(m): 11:25am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:




Evolution is not plausible in any way. Same goes for both. So no one should judge the other as we can both be wrong. So let's wait till after our death to know who is actually right. Case closed.
The only person judging here is the person who opened this thread.
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 11:34am On Oct 06, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:
The only person judging here is the person who opened this thread.


What about ur other colleagues opening threads too?
Re: Abiogenesis by akintom(m): 11:53am On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



Can u even hear urself. And who told u the water covered the whole world as in to the brim? Use ur sense na.

Number 2- it was covered with water so microscopic organisms that liv in water av no problem, do they?

You religious folks don't either read your Bible or lack capacity to understand it.
Your Bible says EVERYTHING NOT IN THE ARK WERE DESTROYED.
Except you have another bible.
Re: Abiogenesis by taurus25(m): 12:01pm On Oct 06, 2016
why is evolution a serious threat to religions?
Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 12:41pm On Oct 06, 2016
akintom:


You religious folks don't either read your Bible or lack capacity to understand it.
Your Bible says EVERYTHING NOT IN THE ARK WERE DESTROYED.
Except you have another bible.


You can as well say noah should have kept some fish in the ark too grin lmao . Pls use ur brain na. cheesy
Re: Abiogenesis by Seun(m): 12:53pm On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:
None. But everything is as it was said. All after their kind and still after der kind after many yrs no change. A whale is still a whale. A cow is still a cow.
But that's not true. The fossil records show that cows and whales and other animals have evolved. We have the bones of their ancestors.

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Re: Abiogenesis by akintom(m): 1:12pm On Oct 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



You can as well say noah should have kept some fish in the ark too grin lmao . Pls use ur brain na. cheesy

If your brain is really functioning, you should have ask yourself
the meaning of your God destroying everything not in the ark.

Except you disagree with your Bible.

Or your God did a second creation of living things not in the ark.

Re: Abiogenesis by adjoviomole(m): 11:10pm On Oct 06, 2016
Seun:
But that's not true. The fossil records show that cows and whales and other animals have evolved. We have the bones of their ancestors.


And the so called ancestor, was it a full fossil? And besides did u see this ancestors evolving? No. Its just predictions and assumptions wich cld b right or wrong.

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