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The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Kazrem(m): 10:51am On Oct 07, 2016
The Importance of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 5.172 Narrated by Aisha
Ashura’ (i.e. the tenth of Muharram) was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre-Islamic period of ignorance. The Prophet (saws) also used to fast on this day. So when he (saws) migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined, it became optional for the people to fast or not to fast on the day of Ashura.Ibn ‘Abbas reported: “The Prophet (saws) came to Madinah and found the Jews fasting on the day of ‘Ashurah. He (saws) said to them: ‘What is this fast?’ They said: ‘A great day. Allah saved Moses and the tribes of Israel from their enemies on this day and therefore, Moses fasted on this day.’ The Prophet (saws) said: ‘We have more of a right to Moses than you,’ so he (saws) fasted on that day also and ordered the believers to fast on that day.” Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.

Ibn ‘Abbas reported: “The Messenger of Allah (saws) fasted on the day of ‘Ashurah and ordered the people to fast on it. The people said: ‘O Messenger of Allah (saws) , it is a day that the Jews and Christians honor.’ The Prophet (saws) said, ‘When the following year comes–Allah willing–we shall fast (also) on the ninth.’ The death of the Prophet (saws) came before the following year.” Related by Muslim and Abu Dawud.

The tenth of Muharram was a day which not only the pagans of Quraish, but also the Jews and the Christians of the time held in honor before the advent of Islam; and they commemorated this day by fasting. The Messenger of Allah (saws) declared that the believers, because of their true belief upon all the previous Prophets of Allah, had more right to honor this day and he (saws) encouraged the believers to differ from the pagans and fast two days, either the 9 and the 10 or the 10 and the 11 , in commemoration of this great day.

Sunan of Abu-Dawood 2419 (part) Narrated by Abu Qatadah: The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “….. I seek from Allah that fasting on the day of ‘Arafah’ may atone for the sins of the preceding and the coming year; and I seek from Allah that fasting on the days of ‘Ashura’ may atone for the sins of the preceding year.”

Tasu'a and Ashura is on Monday 11th Oct and Tuesday 12th October.


Source: https://muhdlawal./2011/12/03/the-importance-of-fasting-tasua-ashura/

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by MakeWeTalk: 11:15am On Oct 07, 2016
Hmmmm

In Christianity they do not advertise they fast.

Matthew 6
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;

18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly


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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Toybad: 11:17am On Oct 07, 2016
SAW
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Jimwalex(m): 11:17am On Oct 07, 2016
Masha Allah...may Almighty Allah make it easy for us

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Ssthorm(f): 11:24am On Oct 07, 2016
Jazaakallah brother...beautiful reminder

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Ugogenius(m): 11:25am On Oct 07, 2016
Allahuakubar

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by NupeZalla(m): 11:25am On Oct 07, 2016
Masha Allah..jakallah khair Op

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by yusuf01(m): 11:42am On Oct 07, 2016
This is not advertising fasts, it's about reminding people about the benefits o fasting in the two days. Many people don't know the time, so the reason for the reminder
MakeWeTalk:
Hmmmm

In Christianity they do not advertise they fast.

Matthew 6
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;

18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly


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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by budosky(m): 11:47am On Oct 07, 2016
الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Musharraf: 11:56am On Oct 07, 2016
Surely Allah has full Knowledge of our needs & desires. Sufficient is He as our protector & comforter. May He ceaselessly comfort,protect & provide 4 us. Juma'ah Mubarak
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Gimmy(m): 12:16pm On Oct 07, 2016
MakeWeTalk:
Hmmmm

In Christianity they do not advertise they fast.

Matthew 6
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;

18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly
You are simply getting it wrong and that is how you mislead people from the truth. As you said,"[i]Matthew 6
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." This is the kind of fasten which you do when you seek something from God,Nobody must know that you are indeed fasten. But,when we talk of fasten that has to do with God's commandment or which he has stipulate in his Holy scriptures,Then verily,you should make it known to the people so that they can also do it and benefit from the blessings that comes from it. Please,dont take this as a competition. I am just being truthful. Thank you Allah.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Gimmy(m): 12:17pm On Oct 07, 2016
May Allah reward you for bringing this to our notice.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Intuitive1: 1:01pm On Oct 07, 2016
Well, if you conclude it's an advert I completely agree with you. Why? Because the product of Allah is expensive. Jannah is pricey, though most desirable. Hence, the need to convince people to buy. The Prophet ﷺ says that,

“Indeed the commodity of Allah is expensive, indeed the commodity of Allah is jannah (paradise)” (Tirmidhi).

Therefore, it's mandatory upon every Muslim to enjoin that which is good and forbid that which is forbidden. Allah says;
(وَلْتَكُنْ مِنْكُمْ أُمَّةٌ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى الْخَيْرِ وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ ۚ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ) [Surat Aal-E-Imran 104]

"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity."

In sum, it's completely permissible to advertise and enjoin people to do an act of goodness that pleases Allah. One who makes such advert will earn rewards as those who saw the advert, que-in and make efforts to carry good needs. May Allah grant us understanding .

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by DaudaAbu(m): 1:18pm On Oct 07, 2016
Thanks op for this reminder. May Allah SWT reward you abundantly
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Dscientist: 2:02pm On Oct 07, 2016
Intuitive1:
Well, if you conclude it's an advert I completely agree with you. Why? Because the product of Allah is expensive. Jannah is pricey, though most desirable. Hence, the need to convince people to buy. The Prophet ﷺ says that,

“Indeed the commodity of Allah is expensive, indeed the commodity of Allah is jannah (paradise)” (Tirmidhi).

Therefore, it's mandatory upon every Muslim to enjoin that which is good and forbid that which is forbidden. Allah says;
(وَلْتَكُنْ مِنْكُمْ أُمَّةٌ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى الْخَيْرِ وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ ۚ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ) [Surat Aal-E-Imran 104]

"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity."

In sum, it's completely permissible to advertise and enjoin people to do an act of goodness that pleases Allah. One who makes such advert will earn rewards as those who saw the advert, que-in and make efforts to carry good needs. May Allah grant us understanding .
Nice Response

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by olaitan9291(m): 2:10pm On Oct 07, 2016
[quote author=MakeWeTalk post=49993629]Hmmmm

In Christianity they do not advertise they fast.

[i]Matthew 6
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;

18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee open

That is for Christians and we are Muslims

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 2:15pm On Oct 07, 2016
Kazrem:
The Importance of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura

Is there any importance in an abandoned practice?

Kazrem:

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 5.172 Narrated by Aisha
Ashura’ (i.e. the tenth of Muharram) was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre-Islamic period of ignorance. The Prophet (saws) also used to fast on this day. So when he (saws) migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined, it became optional for the people to fast or not to fast on the day of Ashura.

# This hadith of Aisha clearly suggest that Nabi knew about the fasting of Ashura as he too used to fast before he migrated to Madinah. Then he continue the fasting in Madinah.

# Observe the following points:

i. Nabi spent 13 years in Makkah and 10 years in Madinah

ii. Ramadan was enjoined in the 2nd year the Prophet entered al-Madinah.

iii. Nabi died in the 11th year of Hijrah.

This hadith of Aishah is clearly contradictory with that of Ibn Abbas which reads:


Imam Muslim documents:

Ibn Abbas (r) reported that when Allah's Messenger (s) came to Medina, he found the Jews observing the fast on the day of Ashura. They were asked about it and they said: It is the day on which Allah granted victory to Moses and Bani Isra'il over the Pharaoh and we observe fast out of gratitude to Him. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (s) said: We have a closer connection with Moses than you have, and he commanded to observe fast on this day‏.‏


Reference : Sahih Muslim 1130 a
In-book reference : Book 13, Hadith 162
http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/13

# This clearly revealed the Prophet's naivety of the fasting of Ashura and its significance.

# If we are to marry the two hadiths, we can only infer that Aishah's hadith only meant that Nabi used to fast Ashura when he arrived Madinah, and not that he practiced it in Makkah (following the Pagan Quraysh).

# Yet the continuation of hadith Ibn Abbas exposed the fallacy of Tasu'a and Ashura fasting:

Imam Muslim continues his documentation:

Ibn 'Abbas reported that when the Messenger of Allah (s) fasted on the day of 'Ashura and commanded that it should be observed as a fast, they (his Companions) said to him: Messenger of Allah, it is a day which the Jews and Christians hold in high esteem. Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (s) said: When the next year comes, God willing, we would observe fast on the 9th But the Messenger of Allah (s) died before the advent of the next year .

Reference : Sahih Muslim 1134 a
In-book reference : Book 13, Hadith 172

http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/13

# This hadith which claimed Nabi died the following year he commanded the fasting of Ashura, clearly suggest he might have spent 2 - 3 years in al-Madinah. This is contradictory to established facts of 10 years he spent in al-Madinah.

# If we however suggest that this command and complaint of Ashura fasting was on the 9th/10th year of Hijra that Nabi entered al-Madinah therefore died the following year 10th/11th, then it render the previous ahadith of Aishah, Jabir et al useless since they claimed fasting of Ramadan (established in 2nd year) made fasting of Ashura abandoned or optional.

# There is absolutely no suggestion in this hadith that there was a time difference between the command of Ashura fasting and the complaint of the Sahabah. Even if we fabricate a gap period, the question is what made the complaint of the Sahabah and Nabi's unrealized reaction so late for about 8/9 years?

# The fact that Allah has declared in the 1st year of Prophet's arrival in al-Madinah:

" Never will the Jews and the Christians be satisfied with thee (Muhammad) unless you follow their form of religion. Say (O Muhammad) 'The guidance of God, that is the (only) Guidance.‟ Were you to follow their desires after the knowledge which has reached you, then you will neither find protector or helper against God ” {Sura al-Baqarah: 120}

# So, neither the Prophet nor the Sahabah can be heedless of this ayah. The valid conclusion is that both the command and complaint as expressed in the hadith took place in the 1st/2nd year of Hijra since after the legislation of Ramadan fasting, Ashura fasting can never be commanded again.

# The fact that the hadith later claim Nabi died the following year collapse the whole pack of lies about the Tasu'a and Ashura fasting.

Kazrem:

Sunan of Abu-Dawood 2419 (part) Narrated by Abu Qatadah: The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “….. I seek from Allah that fasting on the day of ‘Arafah’ may atone for the sins of the preceding and the coming year; and I seek from Allah that fasting on the days of ‘Ashura’ may atone for the sins of the preceding year.”

Source: https://muhdlawal./2011/12/03/the-importance-of-fasting-tasua-ashura/

# So, did Allah grant this virtue of Ashura? Fasting of Ramadan encompass all blessings which has rendered Ashura an abandoned fasting.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 2:21pm On Oct 07, 2016
WHO LEGISLATED ASHURA FASTING?

# THE JEWS?

According to the aforementioned hadith of Ibn Abbas in sahih Muslim, when the Jews were seen fasting on the day of Ashura,

"... They were asked about it and they said: It is the day on which Allah granted victory to Moses and Bani Isra'il over Pharaoh and we observe fast out of gratitude to Him . Upon this the Messenger of Allah (s) said: We have a closer connection with Moses than you have, and he commanded to observe fast on this day ..."

# This clearly establish the fast as Jewish invention. So, why would Nabi Muhammad salallahu alayhi wa ahli followed the Jewish innovation?

# NABI MUSA?

Contrastingly, Imam al-Bukhari's version states:

Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (s) came to Medina and saw the Jews fasting on the day of Ashura. He asked them about that. They replied, "This is a good day, the day on which Allah rescued Bani Israel from their enemy. So, Moses fasted this day ." The Prophet (s) said, "We have more claim over Moses than you." So, the Prophet fasted on that day and ordered (the Muslims) to fast (on that day).

Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2004
In-book reference : Book 30, Hadith 109
http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/30

So, Nabi Musa fasted! Says who? The Jew.

# Why would Nabi Muhammad salallahu alayhi wa ahli take the word of the Jew valid? Is there a record for it in their Torah that Nabi Musa fasted on Ashura?

"And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the Lord brought you out from this place; there shall no leavened bread be eaten . This day came ye out in the month of Abib ." {Exodus 13: 3-4}

# There is zero confirmation of this fasting in al-Furqan (The criterion, Quran) or a revelation to validate it despite the detailed account of Nabi Musa in the Quran. Rather, Allah says concerning the Jews and their scripture:

"And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, “This is from Allâh,” but it is not from Allâh. And they speak untruth about Allâh while they know " {surah Âhli-Imran 3/78}

# Apart from the fasting of Ramadan which apparently made fasting of Ashura an abandoned fast, Allah declares in the same surah al-Baqarah:

"Never will the Jews and the Christians be satisfied with thee (Muhammad) unless you follow their form of religion. Say (O Muhammad) 'The guidance of God, that is the (only) Guidance.‟ Were you to follow their desires after the knowledge which has reached you, then you will neither find protector or helper against God ” {Sura al-Baqarah: 120}

* So, if at all Nabi once fasted Ashura for what the Jews claimed, then this command (and the command of fasting of Ramadan) truly render this "Jewish practice" abandoned.

# If because of the statement, "We have more claim over Moses than you ", fasting of Ashura is established, then why cant Nabi also embrace the day Manna was sent from heaven as E'id {surah al-Maidah: 112-114}, after all Nabi Eesa is more closer to Islam than Christianity?

COMMANDS OF QURAN

Quran further states in another early Madinan surah:

" He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the true religion, that He may make it overcome the religions, all of them, though the polytheists may be averse " {surah as-Saff: 9}

Indeed fasting of Ashura, if truly Nabi once enjoined it, became an abandoned fasting so also is its purported virtues.

# Imam Bukhari documents the interpretation of "abandon ترك " of Ashura fasting by a Sahabi:

Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The Prophet (s) observed the fast on the 10th of Muharram ('Ashura), and ordered (Muslims) to fast on that day, but when the fasting of the month of Ramadan was prescribed, the fasting of the 'Ashura' was abandoned. Abdullah did not use to fast on that day unless it coincided with his routine fasting by chance.

Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 1892
In-book reference : Book 30, Hadith 2
http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/30

# We ask, why the yearly campaign of this abandoned practice?

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Nobody: 3:11pm On Oct 07, 2016
AlBaqir:


Is there any importance in an abandoned practice?



# This hadith of Aisha clearly suggest that Nabi knew about the fasting of Ashura as he too used to fast before he migrated to Madinah. Then he continue the fasting in Madinah.

# Observe the following points:

i. Nabi spent 13 years in Makkah and 10 years in Madinah

ii. Ramadan was enjoined in the 2nd year the Prophet entered al-Madinah.

iii. Nabi died in the 11th year of Hijrah.

This hadith of Aishah is clearly contradictory with that of Ibn Abbas which reads:


Imam Muslim documents:

Ibn Abbas (r) reported that when Allah's Messenger (s) came to Medina, he found the Jews observing the fast on the day of Ashura. They were asked about it and they said: It is the day on which Allah granted victory to Moses and Bani Isra'il over the Pharaoh and we observe fast out of gratitude to Him. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (s) said: We have a closer connection with Moses than you have, and he commanded to observe fast on this day‏.‏


Reference : Sahih Muslim 1130 a
In-book reference : Book 13, Hadith 162
http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/13

# This clearly revealed the Prophet's naivety of the fasting of Ashura.

# If we are to marry the two hadiths, we can only infer that Aishah's hadith only meant that Nabi used to fast Ashura when he arrived Madinah, and not that he practiced it in Makkah (following the Pagan Quraysh).

# Yet the continuation of hadith Ibn Abbas exposed the fallacy of Tasu'a and Ashura fasting:

[color=#990000]Imam Muslim continues his documentation:

Ibn 'Abbas reported that when the Messenger of Allah (s) fasted on the day of 'Ashura and commanded that it should be observed as a fast, they (his Companions) said to him: Messenger of Allah, it is a day which the Jews and Christians hold in high esteem. Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (s) said: When the next year comes, God willing, we would observe fast on the 9th But the Messenger of Allah (s) died before the advent of the next year .

Reference : Sahih Muslim 1134 a
In-book reference : Book 13, Hadith 172
http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/13

# This hadith which claimed Nabi died the following year he commanded the fasting of Ashura, clearly suggest he might have spent 2 - 3 years in al-Madinah. This is contradictory to established facts of 10 years he spent in al-Madinah.

# If we however suggest that this command and complaint of Ashura fasting was on the 9th/10th year of Hijra that Nabi entered al-Madinah therefore died the following year 10th/11th, then it render the previous ahadith of Aishah, Jabir et al useless since they claimed fasting of Ramadan (established in 2nd year) made fasting of Ashura abandoned or optional.

# There is absolutely no suggestion in this hadith that there was a time difference between the command of Ashura fasting and the complaint of the Sahabah. Even if we fabricate a gap period, the question is what made the complaint of the Sahabah and Nabi's unrealized reaction so late for about 8/9 years?

# The fact that Allah has declared in the 1st year of Prophet's arrival in al-Madinah:

" Never will the Jews and the Christians be satisfied with thee (Muhammad) unless you follow their form of religion. Say (O Muhammad) 'The guidance of God, that is the (only) Guidance.‟ Were you to follow their desires after the knowledge which has reached you, then you will neither find protector or helper against God ” {Sura al-Baqarah: 120}

# So, neither the Prophet nor the Sahabah will heedless of this ayah. The valid conclusion is that both the command and complaint as expressed in the hadith took place in the 1st/2nd year of Hijra.

# The fact that the hadith later claim Nabi died the following year collapse the whole pack of lies about the Tasu'a and Ashura fasting.


Sunan of Abu-Dawood 2419 (part) Narrated by Abu Qatadah: The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “….. I seek from Allah that fasting on the day of ‘Arafah’ may atone for the sins of the preceding and the coming year; and I seek from Allah that fasting on the days of ‘Ashura’ may atone for the sins of the preceding year.”

Source: https://muhdlawal./2011/12/03/the-importance-of-fasting-tasua-ashura/


# So, did Allah grant this virtue of Ashura? Fasting of Ramadan encompass all blessings which has rendered Ashura an abandoned fasting.

But the shias can be wearing black cloths, mourning Imam Hussain ba, harming themselves, crying, lamenting?! I wonder aw u drive pleasure in distorting Quran and hadiths!? Hypocrisy is when u deny, curse the sahabas, and yet for ur own whims, u quote their hadiths. Shia=Black dresses, black character, black everytyn... U filthy people. May allaah expose the shias.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 3:20pm On Oct 07, 2016
RABIUSHILE04:


But the shias can be wearing black cloths, mourning Imam Hussain ba, harming themselves, crying, lamenting?! I wonder aw u drive pleasure in distorting Quran and hadiths!? Hypocrisy is when u deny, curse the sahabas, and yet for ur own whims, u quote their hadiths. Shia=Black dresses, black character, black everytyn... U filthy people. May allaah expose the shias.

# Your comment is noted. Unfortunately since it is not academic or near my replies posed to the OP, its of no probative value.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by ShiaMuslim: 3:29pm On Oct 07, 2016
RABIUSHILE04:

But the shias can be wearing black cloths, mourning Imam Hussain ba, harming themselves, crying, lamenting?! I wonder aw u drive pleasure in distorting Quran and hadiths!? Hypocrisy is when u deny, curse the sahabas, and yet for ur own whims, u quote their hadiths. Shia=Black dresses, black character, black everytyn... U filthy people. May allaah expose the shias.

Yes we can and we will till Qiyamah. Why? Because lamenting for Imam Hussein (as) is Sunnah. Did the Prophet (s) cry over him even before the Tragedy of Karbala? Yes he did. Sunnah is the deeds and words of the Prophet (s). So we will follow that Sunnah.

Did the Prophet (s) arrive Medina in Muharram or in Rabiul Awwal? He arrived in Rabiul Awwal. So how do you claim he fasted on Ashura or met the Jews fasting on Ashura when he did not arrive in the month of Muharram to Medina?

Furthermore, if the Prophet (s) was alive today, would he mourn for Imam Hussein (as) and remember his sacrifice for Islam, or would he be happy that Noah's (as) ark landed after the flood?

Do the Jews fast on Ashura? No! Did any Jewish fast coincide on Ashura in the year the Prophet (s) made hijrah and arrived in Medinah? Calculation shows that no Jewish fast coincided on Ashura in the first and second year of the hijrah. So where did the lie about Jews fasting on Ashura come from?

Is it worthy of the Prophet (s) to emulate the Jews or for the Jews to emulate him?

We therefore conclude that there was no fasting done by the Prophet (s) on Ashura and all the accolades about previous prophets attached to Ashura are the fabrications of banu Umayyah to conceal the Tragedy of Karbala and the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) and his household and followed.

As for the sahaba, we do not curse "them". There are the ones we respect and the ones we expose. There were early Shia among the sahaba. Those are the ones worthy of emulation and praises because of their attachment to the Ahlul-Bayt (as) which was the will of the Prophet (s).
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Kunle28: 3:43pm On Oct 07, 2016
With the Declaration by the sultanate that 3rd of October 2016, is 1st Muharram 1438AH, it's clear that Next Week Tuesday and Wednesday 11th and 12th of October, 2016 would be 9th and 10th Of Muharram 1438AH also Known as Tasu'a and Ashura respectively, it is sunnah to fast the two days. May Allah spare our lives to witness the days, give us the opportunity to observe the fast and may He accept it from us and reward us with the best of rewards..Amin
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 4:02pm On Oct 07, 2016
Kunle28:
With the Declaration by the sultanate that 3rd of October 2016, is 1st Muharram 1438AH, it's clear that Next Week Tuesday and Wednesday 11th and 12th of October, 2016 would be 9th and 10th Of Muharram 1438AH also Known as Tasu'a and Ashura respectively, it is sunnah to fast the two days. May Allah spare our lives to witness the days, give us the opportunity to observe the fast and may He accept it from us and reward us with the best of rewards..Amin

# How is an abandoned practice be tagged a Sunnah?
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by sino(m): 5:06pm On Oct 07, 2016
"Here are the ahadeeth from the Imams regarding fasting on Ashura from Shia books:

(i). Sa’ad bin ‘Abdullah from abu Ja’afar from Ja’afar bin Muhammad bin ‘Ubeidullah from ‘Abdullah bin Maymoun al-Qaddah from Imam Ja’afar from his father (as): “The fasting of ‘Ashura removes the sins of a year.”(Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/300 & Wasael al-Shia 10/457).[Grading: Sahih(authentic)]

(ii). ‘Ali bin al-Hassan bin Faddal from Haroun bin Muslim from Masa’adah bin Sadaqah from Imam abu ‘Abdullah from his Father that ‘Ali (as) said: “Fast on ‘Ashura the ninth and tenth for it removes the sins of a whole year.” (Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/299 & Wasael al-Shia 10/457).[Grading: Muawaththaq(reliable)]

(iii). Also from him, from Ya’aqoub bin Yazid, from abu Hamam, from Imam abu al-Hassan (as): “The messenger peace be upon him and his household fasted the day of ‘Ashura.” (Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/299-300).

(iv). Muhammad bin al-Hassan with its Isnad from ‘Ali bin al-Hassan bin Faddal from Ya’aqoub bin Yazid from abu Hamad from abu al-Hassan (as): “The Prophet(saw) fasted the day of ‘Ashura.”(Wasael al-Shia 10/457).

(v). Ali (ra) said: “Fast on the day of Ashoora 9th and 10th for substitution, for it is an expiation for the the past year, and if someone of you eats (by mistake) should continue his fasting.”

1- Al-Haj Hussein Al-Nuri Tabarsi in Mustadrak Al-Wasael 1/594,

2- Haj Brujardi in Jaa’me Ahadeeth Al-Shia 9/475.

Esteemed Shia Ayatullah authenticated ahadeeth regarding fasting on Ashura:

Ayatullah Abul-Qasim Al-Khoie (former head of the Hawzah in Najaf and one of the greatest Shia Hadith scholars, teacher of Ayatullah Sistani) in his book al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa, volume 12 stated:

‘As for the encompassing narrations commanding and recommending the fast of this day, they are many, like the authentic(Sahih) narration of al-Qadaah [from Abu `Abdillah(as), from his father Abu Ja`far(as), who said: “The fasting of the day of Ashura is atonement for a year.” And the[b] reliable(Muwaththaq) narration of Mas`ada b. Sadaqa from Abu `Abdillah(as), from Abu Ja`far(as), who said that Imam `Ali(as) said:[/b] “Fast on Ashura, the ninth and the tenth, for verily it atones for the sins of a year.”(Source: al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa)

Esteemed Shia Ayatullah admits that the Shia ahadeeth which forbid fasting on Ashura are all Weak:

Ayatullah Abul-Qasim Al-Khoie(former head of the Hawzah in Najaf and one of the greatest Shia Hadith scholars, teacher of Ayatullah Sistani) states:

The narrations that forbid this (Fasting) do not have proper Sanad, they are all weak, in fact we don’t have any respectable narrations that we can rely on to prove that those that differ with them are Taqqiyah. As for the narrations that speak about fasting this day and that it is favourable to fast there are plenty of them, such as the SAHIH of al-Qidah: “Fasting the day of ‘Ashoora removes the sins of a year.” and the Muwaththaq of Masa’adah bin Sadaqah: “Fast ‘Ashoora the ninth and the tenth for it removes the sins of an entire year.” and others like them. This is acceptable taking into consideration the unimaginably great hunger and thirst and pain that Ahlul-Bayt had to go through on that hard day. So the strongest opinion would be that it is favoured to fast this day.“ (Kitab al-Sawm by al-Khoei 2/305).

Similarly Al-Khoie, in al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa, volume 12 states:

So it is correct what we have claimed, that the prohibitive narrations are all da`if(weak) in sanad. So, the authoritative is free of opposition, and the karahat (dislike) of the fast of Ashura is not established, let alone its prohibition which was the view hold in al-Hada’iq(of Yusuf al-Bahrani). Rather, it is permissible, recommended especially (if done) mournfully according to what you have recognized by what there is no exceeding upon it. “( al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa).

Who deviated from the teaching of Ahlelbayt(as) in regards to fasting on Ashura; Sunnis or Shia?

Famous Shia scholar al-Muhaqqiq al-Sha’rani says in his commentary on the book “al-Wafi” by al-Faydh al-Kashani, 22/505:

[It happens that some of the narrators who are extreme in their hatred for the Mukhalifeen (Sunnis), those who exaggerate the differences and deviate from the school of Ahlul-Bayt (as), that they may go overboard in certain beliefs un-intentionally only so they may oppose the Mukhalifeen. They do this because of their strong relation to Tashayyu`, as we see a group in the late times who deny that fasting `Ashura is liked (Mustahabb) by agreement, just so they can oppose the Mukhalifeen, and they stick to the belief that the Qur’an is corrupted so they can use this to criticize the enemies of Ahlul-Bayt (as), although there are many criticisms against them and there is no need to prove Tahreef(corruption) and demolish the foundations of the religion.]"

After reading the above dear Muslim, shouldn’t you wonder why these shi’as have neglected the teachings of the Prophet (SAW) and the ahl-l-bayt?! Why are they going against the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW)?! Are they really following the ahl-l-bayt as they claim?! For refutations of the shi’a’s misconceptions and doubts as presented here by AlBaqir, please go HERE

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Kazrem(m): 5:15pm On Oct 07, 2016
Thank you my brother AlBaqir. I really appreciate but when you see a scholar ask him those questions. I am not one.
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by gloryman91: 5:16pm On Oct 07, 2016
In sha Allah,I won't be left out with my family to observe these fast with a lot of good deeds.

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Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 6:25pm On Oct 07, 2016
# Sino, the Master copy-paster grin

I guess you copied here:
http://forum.twelvershia.net/general-sunni-vs-shia/fasting-in-'ashura-is-a-sunnah-not-a-umayyad-bid'ah/

Next time endeavour to site the link. However, a good debater will first neutralise all the submissions of his opponent before he attack with his own submission. Obviously fasting of Ashura in your books is myth.

# Now to your points, here's what your favourite website says:

Fasting Ashura in Shia Hadiths

A surprising fact is that Al-Tusi in Tahtheeb Al-Ahkam has included eight narrations in his book about the fasting Ashura in the chapter of types of fasts. Four of the narrations are for the fasting of Ashura, while the other four are against it.

Ironically, the fourth narration about Ashura specifically states, from the narration of Al-Baqir:

“This is the day in which Allah drowned the Pharaoh and those with him, saved the people of Isra’eel, and gave victory to Musa over the Pharoah.” Al-Tahtheeb 4/960.

This fits the narrative of Ibn Abbas above from the Sunni traditions.

Another interesting narration from Tahtheeb Al-Ahkam 4/980 is one in which Al-Sadiq narrated that even “beasts were fasting Ashura during the time of Dawud.”

Objectively speaking, Al-Majlisi actually weakened all the hadiths in this chapter in his book Malath Al-Akhyar 7/116-118 due to the weakness of the chains, with the exception of one hadith, which is the twelfth in the chapter, which he authenticated. The narration simply states:

“The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him and his progeny fasted the day of Ashura.”

Al-Majlisi I also authenticates another narration his exegesis of Man La Yahtharhu Al-Faqeeh, Rawdhat Al-Mutaqeen 4/313. The narration from Mohammad bin Muslim and Zurarah states that Al-Baqir told them about fasting Ashura that, “it was fasted before Ramadhan, but after Ramadhan was made obligatory it was left.”

This too confirms with the Sunni teaching that fasting Ashura was obligatory for a period of time.

http://twelvershia.net/2015/10/22/the-truth-about-fasting-ashura/
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 6:27pm On Oct 07, 2016
sino:

"Here are the ahadeeth from the Imams regarding fasting on Ashura from Shia books:

(i). Sa’ad bin ‘Abdullah from abu Ja’afar from Ja’afar bin Muhammad bin ‘Ubeidullah from ‘Abdullah bin Maymoun al-Qaddah from Imam Ja’afar from his father (as): “The fasting of ‘Ashura removes the sins of a year.”(Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/300 & Wasael al-Shia 10/457).[Grading: Sahih(authentic)]

(ii). ‘Ali bin al-Hassan bin Faddal from Haroun bin Muslim from Masa’adah bin Sadaqah from Imam abu ‘Abdullah from his Father that ‘Ali (as) said: “Fast on ‘Ashura the ninth and tenth for it removes the sins of a whole year.” (Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/299 & Wasael al-Shia 10/457).[Grading: Muawaththaq(reliable)]

(iii). Also from him, from Ya’aqoub bin Yazid, from abu Hamam, from Imam abu al-Hassan (as): “The messenger peace be upon him and his household fasted the day of ‘Ashura.” (Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 4/299-300).

(iv). Muhammad bin al-Hassan with its Isnad from ‘Ali bin al-Hassan bin Faddal from Ya’aqoub bin Yazid from abu Hamad from abu al-Hassan (as): “The Prophet(saw) fasted the day of ‘Ashura.”(Wasael al-Shia 10/457).

(v). Ali (ra) said: “Fast on the day of Ashoora 9th and 10th for substitution, for it is an expiation for the the past year, and if someone of you eats (by mistake) should continue his fasting.”

1- Al-Haj Hussein Al-Nuri Tabarsi in Mustadrak Al-Wasael 1/594,

2- Haj Brujardi in Jaa’me Ahadeeth Al-Shia 9/475.

# Ma sha Allah! We do not deny these ahadith in our books. All these resonance pre-Ramadan fasting commandment.

Following are ahadith in Kitab al-Kafi:

Sheik al-Kulayni documents:

Book: Kitab al-Kafi

Chapter: Book of fasting part 2, chapter 14 hadith number 4

Najabah ibn Al Harith Al attar said I once asked Abu Jafar(as) about fasting on the day of ashura. He(the imam) said It is a discarded fast after the coming of Shahr Ramadan and what is discarded and abandoned is Heresy. Najabah then asked Abu Abdullah(as) after his father about it and he answered just like his father and then said “ it is a fast about which there is not anything in the book or the established sunnah except the sunnah of the family of Ziyad for their murdering Al-Husayn Ibn Ali(as)


# Sheik al-Kulayni further documents:

Book: Kitab al-Kafi

Chapter: Book of fasting part 2, chapter 14 hadith number 6

I heard Zurarah(RAA) asking Abu Abdullah(as) about the fast on the day of Ashura, Abu Abdullah(as) said whoever fasts on this day, his share for such fasts is like the share of ibn Marjana and the family of Ziyad, I then asked what was their share that day? he said(as) it is the fire, I seek protection with Allah against it and against the deeds against the deeds that take one closer to the fire.

Note: These two narrations are graded authentic by Allamah al-Majlisi in his Mir'atul huqqul (mirror of intellects)

Here's a shia website where all Shia books can be accessed.
http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by AlBaqir(m): 7:06pm On Oct 07, 2016
sino:

Esteemed Shia Ayatullah admits that the Shia ahadeeth which forbid fasting on Ashura are all Weak:

Ayatullah Abul-Qasim Al-Khoie(former head of the Hawzah in Najaf and one of the greatest Shia Hadith scholars, teacher of Ayatullah Sistani) states:

The narrations that forbid this (Fasting) do not have proper Sanad, they are all weak, in fact we don’t have any respectable narrations that we can rely on to prove that those that differ with them are Taqqiyah. As for the narrations that speak about fasting this day and that it is favourable to fast there are plenty of them, such as the SAHIH of al-Qidah: “Fasting the day of ‘Ashoora removes the sins of a year.” and the Muwaththaq of Masa’adah bin Sadaqah: “Fast ‘Ashoora the ninth and the tenth for it removes the sins of an entire year.” and others like them. This is acceptable taking into consideration the unimaginably great hunger and thirst and pain that Ahlul-Bayt had to go through on that hard day. So the strongest opinion would be that it is favoured to fast this day.“ (Kitab al-Sawm by al-Khoei 2/305).

Similarly Al-Khoie, in al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa, volume 12 states:

So it is correct what we have claimed, that the prohibitive narrations are all da`if(weak) in sanad. So, the authoritative is free of opposition, and the karahat (dislike) of the fast of Ashura is not established, let alone its prohibition which was the view hold in al-Hada’iq(of Yusuf al-Bahrani). Rather, it is permissible, recommended especially (if done) mournfully according to what you have recognized by what there is no exceeding upon it. “( al-Mustanad fi Sharh il-`Urwat il-Wuthqa).

# We submit that most of the narrations that forbid or discourage the fasting of Ashura are authentic. This is why

Ayatollah al-Khoei states:

1756. It is abominable to fast on Ashura (10th of Moharrum). It is also abominable to fast an the day about which it is not sure as to whether it is the day of Arafaa or Eidul qurban.
http://www.al-khoei.us/books/?id=3258

On this same website, you can explore the works of Ayatullah al-Khoei and verify the weakness of what you ascribe to him.

Another hadith authenticated by Ayatullah al-Khoei reads:

نعم ، ﺇﻥّ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ رواية واحدة صحيحة السند ، ﻭﻫﻲ صحيحة زرارة ومحمد بن مسلم جميعا : ﺃﻧّﻬﻤﺎ سالا ابا جعفر الباقر ‏( ﻋﻠﻴﻪ السلام ‏) ﻋﻦ صوم يوم عاشورا ‏« فقال : كان صومه قبل شهر رمضان ، ﻓﻠﻤّﺎ نزل شهر رمضان ترك

Narrated Zuraarah and Muhammad b. Muslim:

We both asked Abu Ja'far (as) about the fast of 'Ashura. Then, he said, "It was fasted before the month of Ramadaan. But, when the month of Ramadaan was revealed, it was abandoned."

The hadeeth has a saheeh chain as Ayatullah al-Khui said.
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by xclusive43(m): 7:37pm On Oct 07, 2016
You all should ignore Al baqir. We had similar thing last year.

https://www.nairaland.com/1511261/ashura-important-day-all-muslims

The measage here is fast if you can and if you think you can't, no one is forcing you.
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by Kazrem(m): 7:58pm On Oct 07, 2016
Make una kuku say there is no prophet called Muhammed. Mtcheew.
Re: The Importance Of Fasting Tasu’a & Ashura (9th & 10th Muharram) by ruhu: 8:49pm On Oct 07, 2016
The Prophet has already clearly said it all in the hadith : "anyone wu wishes to fast (Ashura) should do so, and anyone who wants to leave it (After Ramadan was legislated) may leave it". There is no problem. The only problem lies with the Shias, Baqir, if u do not want to fast, please go and get a sharp cutlass and cut yourself, spill blood all over yourself so that you can mourn Hussayn as that is the Shia's way of marking Ashurai. Leave those who wants to fast with hadith proofs to fast and you can go and cut yourselves with sharp objects on that day as if you have any proof on that. The Shaytan that is misleading you guys is waiting but may Allah guide all the Shias.

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