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What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 12:12pm On Nov 05, 2016
The US residency permit otherwise known as Green Card is not a honorary title bestowed on non-US citizens by the US govt as a badge of honour or recognition but rather is a document sought by individual immigrant applicants. And it's final approval is at the discretion of the Immigration officer going through your original application.

America did not bestow that status on you but rather granted your application seeking permission to come and go as you please into their country.

The US green card does not equate to US citizenship and as such, you are not even eligible to vote in any election.

So if you like you can tear it to shreds if Trump wins and it wont bother anybody.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by RZArecta(m): 12:28pm On Nov 05, 2016
grin kongi the nama, shebi Obasanjo has told him to concentrate on his guinea fowl hunting/wine drinking and forget about politics which he knows nothing about ? Even Hilary Clinton will bítch slap him if he keeps talking carelessly

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by Edwinmason(m): 12:32pm On Nov 05, 2016
RZArecta:
grin kongi the nama, shebi Obasanjo has told him to concentrate on his guinea fowl hunting/wine drinking and forget about politics which he knows nothing about ? Even Hilary Clinton will bítch slap him if he keeps talking carelessly
u are talking ill about your leader CAPON BLOOD

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 12:33pm On Nov 05, 2016
Demagogue Trump'll surely destroy America like his inexperienced counterpart did in Nigeria, leaving Buhari with nothing but a recession.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 12:39pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
Demagogue Trump'll surely destroy America like his inexperienced counterpart did in Nigeria, leaving Buhari with nothing but a recession.


You just had to sneak in your regular daily GEJ blaming and buhari exoneration.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 12:49pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:



You just had to sneak in your regular daily GEJ blaming and buhari exoneration.
It's no secret that Wailers, who are of the PDP, support the bigoted Trump. We're seeing what's being done to Hillary by the agencies, just like we saw what Ogar did to APC. Trump's a loser. Dump Trump.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by PaulIdu: 12:51pm On Nov 05, 2016
Soyinka really flicked up big time

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 12:58pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
It's no secret that Wailers, who are of the PDP, support the bigoted Trump. We're seeing what's being done to Hillary by the agencies, just like we saw what Ogar did to APC. Trump's a loser. Dump Trump.

And it is no news that zombie Afonjas and their almajiri boko cousins support Clinton for supporting their global jihad

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by nigeriafilm(m): 1:00pm On Nov 05, 2016
OP, you don't understand what Soyinka means. He is responding to statement credited to Trump, that says, if he (Donald Trump) wins, all the green card wil be invalidated for the holders to re-apply.
Wole Soyinka is saying that he wil not wait for it to be declared invalid before he breaks his own

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by cyberguy72(m): 1:01pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
Demagogue Trump'll surely destroy America like his inexperienced counterpart did in Nigeria, leaving Buhari with nothing but a recession.
Zombie! u re very funny,who is the inexperienced one here is it the dullard that has plunged the country into deep recession or the HERO that voluntrily accepted to hand over even though it was very clear the election was rigged?

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by nigeriafilm(m): 1:03pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:
The US residency permit otherwise known as Green Card is not a honorary title bestowed on non-US citizens by the US govt as a badge of honour or recognition but rather is a document sought by individual immigrant applicants. And it's final approval is at the discretion of the Immigration officer going through your original application.


America did not bestow that status on you but rather granted your application seeking permission to come and go as you please into their country.

The US green card does not equate to US citizenship and as such, you are not even eligible to vote in any election.
OP, you don't understand what Soyinka means. He is responding to statement credited to Trump, that says, if he (Donald Trump) wins, all the green card wil be invalidated for the holders to re-apply. Wole Soyinka is saying that he wil not wait for it to be declared invalid before he breaks his own

So if you like you can tear it to shreds if Trump wins and it wont bother anybody.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 1:10pm On Nov 05, 2016
^^^ responding to your embedded post above.


Trump was reacting to Obama's executive order to grant amnesty and green cards to all illegal aliens and also to Obama's proposal to fast track green card applications to ME migrant refugees without due security clearance and asylum claim verification.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 1:23pm On Nov 05, 2016
cyberguy72:
Zombie! u re very funny,who is the inexperienced one here is it the dullard that has plunged the country into deep recession or the HERO that voluntrily accepted to hand over even though it was very clear the election was rigged?
I didn't invent the word "clueless." Besides, it's the dullardic Wailing Wailers who think of handing over successfully as an achievement. FYI, for GEJ, the cost of not handing over far outweighs the handing. He has no choice - he hands over and enjoy his loot or refuses and slide into danger and oblivion.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 1:32pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:


And it is no news that zombie Afonjas and their almajiri boko cousins support Clinton for supporting their global jihad
Better be behind a seasoned administrator than be with a con bully who wants to ride to the White House by grabbing p***ies.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 1:34pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
Better be behind a seasoned administrator than be with a con bully who wants to ride to the White House by grabbing p***ies.

Clinton's husband turned the oval office to his personal brothel

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 1:56pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:


Clinton's husband turned the oval office to his personal brothel
Bill isn't the one on the ticket. But even at that, it's better than being married to a porn-star.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by bennyann: 2:03pm On Nov 05, 2016
OP, respect now. What are you teaching a whole Prof that he doesn't know already
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 2:05pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
Bill isn't the one on the ticket. But even at that, it's better than being married to a porn-star.

Well both bill and Hillary plus that token nigga won't be around to save your Khalifar from the Trump purge

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 2:08pm On Nov 05, 2016
bennyann:
OP, respect now. What are you teaching a whole Prof that he doesn't know already

Decorum and the wisdom to shut his inconsequential ass
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 2:17pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:


Well both bill and Hillary plus that token nigga won't be around to save your Khalifar from the Trump purge
His chances are as slim as a camel passing through a needle. I don't want Americans to be duped like we were with that shoeless story, that would take them a generation to recover.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 2:20pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
His chances are as slim as a camel passing through a needle. I don't want Americans to be duped like we were with that shoeless story, that would take them a generation to recover.

Stop watching CNN

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by Nobody: 2:32pm On Nov 05, 2016
Come is it true that bill clinton is a father to that mixed raced guy? Been hearing and reading this news in the media and its is starting to sound like it's true, is it true?
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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 2:38pm On Nov 05, 2016
APCHaram:


Stop watching CNN
Don't Let Donald Trump Make You His Next Patsy
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"Forget his lies about American Muslims and about the President’s birth; forget his outrageous insult to John McCain, a war hero, and forget his vulgar treatment of women. Just consider: How will he treat you?
Ask yourself: If you were sitting at a poker table and playing for big stakes, would you close your eyes and trust Trump to be the dealer?
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http://fortune.com/2016/11/04/donald-trump-vote-patsy/

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 3:21pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:

Don't Let Donald Trump Make You His Next Patsy
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"Forget his lies about American Muslims and about the President’s birth; forget his outrageous insult to John McCain, a war hero, and forget his vulgar treatment of women. Just consider: How will he treat you?
Ask yourself: If you were sitting at a poker table and playing for big stakes, would you close your eyes and trust Trump to be the dealer?
//
http://fortune.com/2016/11/04/donald-trump-vote-patsy/


Three weeks ago, when we first reported that Qatar had offered to pay the Clinton Foundation $1 million after a hacked Podesta email disclosed that the ambassador of Qatar “Would like to see WJC [William Jefferson Clinton] ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011”, we said that in this particular case, the Clinton Foundation may also be in violation of State Department ethics codes.As we said in early October, while this has been seen by critics of the Clinton Foundation as yet another instance of influence pandering and "pay-to-play", this time there may actually be consequences for the Clinton Foundation: according to the State Department, the previously undisclosed donation suggests there may be an ethics violation by the foundation, even though the State of Qatar is shown on the foundation's website as having given at least that amount. There is no date listed for the donation.Underscoring the potential flagrant abuse of ethical guidelines if the Qatar payment is confirmed, Hillary Clinton promised the U.S. government that while she served as secretary of state the foundation would not accept new funding from foreign governments without seeking clearance from the State Department's ethics office. The agreement was designed to dispel concerns that U.S. foreign policy could be swayed by donations to the foundation.

Of course, US foreign policy could be very easily swayed if Hillary accepted money and simply did not report it the receipt of such money.

However, and where things got awkward for Clinton, is that the State Department has said it cannot cite any instances of its ethics officials reviewing or approving new donations from foreign governments to the foundation while Clinton served as the country's top diplomat from 2009 until 2013, confirming the foundation was in clear breach of its ethics agreement over the not immaterial donation of $1 million from a foreign state, which as Hillary herself also disclosed in another hacked Podesta email, is the primary supporter of the Islamic State.

"You would need to ask the Foundation whether there were additional matters that it should have submitted for State Department review," the department said in a statement.

Fast forward to today when overnight Reuters reported that the Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had vouched to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.

Clinton signed an ethics agreement governing her family's foundation in order to become secretary of state in 2009. The agreement was designed to increase transparency to avoid appearances that U.S. foreign policy could be swayed by wealthy donors. According to the agreement, if a new foreign government wished to donate or if an existing foreign-government donor, such as Qatar, wanted to "increase materially" its support of ongoing programs, Clinton promised that the State Department's ethics official would be notified and given a chance to raise any concerns.

Alas, it now appears that the agreement was nothing more than a piece of paper to Hillary Clinton, who violated its terms on at least one occasion, and potentially on .

Clinton Foundation officials last month declined to confirm the Qatar donation. In response to additional questions, a foundation spokesman, Brian Cookstra, this week said that it accepted the $1 million gift from Qatar, but this did not amount to a "material increase" in the Gulf country's support for the charity. Of course, only in the world of the Clintons is $1 million not a "material" increase. It is also a flat out lie. As we calculated in October, according to the Foundation's own website, Qatar gave anywhere between $1 million and $5 million, so in the best case scenario the donation would be a rather material 20% increase to Qatar's total. In the worst case, it would be 100%.

Cookstra declined to say whether Qatari officials received their requested meeting with Bill Clinton. Officials at Qatar's embassy in Washington and in its Council of Ministers in the capital, Doha, declined to discuss the donation.

But while Qatar was obvious engaged in pay to play, what makes this instance even worse, is that Hillary and Bill were confident enough they could simply get away with it by never telling the State Department of the new influence money. According to Reuters, the State Department has said it has no record of the foundation submitting the Qatar gift for review, and that it was incumbent on the foundation to notify the department about donations that needed attention.

"Oversights"

Foundation officials told Reuters last year that they did not always comply with central provisions of the agreement with President Barack Obama's administration, blaming oversights in some cases. At least eight other countries besides Qatar gave new or increased funding to the foundation, in most cases to fund its health project, without the State Department being informed, according to foundation and agency records. They include Algeria, which gave for the first time in 2010, and the United Kingdom, which nearly tripled its support for the foundation's health project to $11.2 million between 2009 and 2012.

Foundation officials have said some of those donations, including Algeria, were oversights and should have been flagged, while others, such as the UK increase, did not qualify as material increases.

The foundation has declined to describe what sort of increase in funding by a foreign government would have triggered notification of the State Department for review. Cookstra said the agreement was designed to "allow foreign funding for critical Clinton Foundation programs" to continue without disruption.

And the punchline: The State Department said it has no record of being asked by the foundation to review any increases in support by a foreign government.

This means that not only was there an "oversight" by Hillary to report the Qatari $1 million, she did not report the receipt of any foreign money funneling into the Clinton Foundation at all!

Asked whether Qatar was funding a specific program at the foundation, Cookstra fell back to the Foundation's usual response when challenged about conflicts of interest, and said the country supported the organization's "overall humanitarian work."

"Qatar continued supporting Clinton Foundation at equal or lower levels" compared with the country's pre-2009 support, he said. He declined to say if Qatar gave any money during the first three years of Clinton's four-year term at the State Department, or what its support before 2009 amounted to. In another email released by WikiLeaks, a former Clinton Foundation fundraiser said he raised more than $21 million in connection with Bill Clinton's 65th birthday in 2011. It was not immediately clear how much of this was not reported to the State Department  due to "oversights."

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To summarize, due to an "oversight", Hillary Clinton violated an ethics agreement she signed during her tenure as State Department, and "forgot" to notify the Department (which she headed) that her family's foundation had received at least $1 million from Qatar, a state which alongside Saudi Arabia, she admitted provides "financial and logistic support to ISIL"; and also appears to have "forgotten" to notify the State Department on all other occasions when foreign countries were paying the Clinton Foundation to purchase political influence and clout. 

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The Clinton Foundation has said it would no longer accept money from foreign governments if Clinton is elected president and would spin off those programs that are dependent on foreign governments. Because if Clinton is elected president, she would much rather move the "oversights" to the Oval Office, where all the influence that donations - such as Qatar's - have purchased over the year, can finally be exercised.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by APCHaram: 3:25pm On Nov 05, 2016
SirShymexx:


A lot of you're just so caught up in the APC, Ipod, and primitive naij crap that you've the required IQ to decipher global dynamics and the consciousness of international politics. You lot are still crying about recession in naij, but by the time Clinton runs around for four years - you'll have civil war to deal with coupled with that. And a lot of you might end up burying those close to you. That's the reality. Then again, some of you won't mind being refugees in other countries. So, you might get ya wish. grin

You want to know what a devilish racist is: a woman (with her Husband) who's complicit in the fact that a Lebanese man, Chagoury, helped a naij dictator, launder tens of billions of dollars out of naij and in return, got billions of dollars donated to the Clinton Foundation (Chagoury is still one of her biggest donors). I bet you're out there broke as fvck but a Lebanese guy (foreigner) made billions of dollars in the same country you live, with this woman with billions as kick-back for being complicit in it. That alone should make you slap yourself. grin

A racist is a woman whose foundation collected millions of dollars from donors all over globe during the Haitian earthquake to help in rebuilding the country. Yet she stole the money and rather than help rebuild it, she helped one of the donors to her foundation secure the rights to mine gold in the troubled country - while trying to impose a leader on them. A racist is a woman who played a big role in the invasion of Libya and was complicit in how Islamists wiped out black Libyans in Tawergha cos they turned a blind eye to it, despite how it was reported. And the few who escaped the ethnic cleansing were bombed from the air by US jets. A racist is a woman who in conjunction with her husband to pass the drug laws that destroyed about two generations of African Americans. I think the Clinton administration was also responsible for facilitating how Somalia became a failed state. Etc. Just too many crimes to cite.

Anyway, she'll most likely win - but it isn't home run yet. A lot of you are just ignorant. You're still broke and dirt poor in naij, while a Lebanese man made billions off ya backs. If I were you, I'd be mad. Dammit. SMH.

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by Teague4league(m): 3:30pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
It's no secret that Wailers, who are of the PDP, support the bigoted Trump. We're seeing what's being done to Hillary by the agencies, just like we saw what Ogar did to APC. Trump's a loser. Dump Trump.

I'm a big fan of Buhari but I wont agree with you thag he's experienced with democracy . Autocracy is his way and he had further dragged this country into dirt by his policies . I'm for Hilary cause trump knows nothing about politikibg . My point been PDp or APC doesn't directly means you are for trump or Hilary . U decide with their attitude and WHat u feel about them both but who cares . God bless Nigeria
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by Olu317(m): 3:52pm On Nov 05, 2016
Many of you here who criticise Soyinka don't have elderly ones at home because if you do, you won't send ill mannered and unguided messages. My problem with this generation on this site is that many lacked proper perception on what a speaker speaks and how to express genuine opinion. I am definitely sure the ones the people that condemned Professor Soyinka view can not even in Hundred (100) generation's time be able to win Noble Laureate. The UNLETTERED go to school and don't be late because Your
TEACHER is WAITING for You.
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by chemicalDisease: 3:56pm On Nov 05, 2016
MalcoImX:
Demagogue Trump'll surely destroy America like his inexperienced counterpart did in Nigeria, leaving Buhari with nothing but a recession.

Zombie on the RUN!

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Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by Olu317(m): 3:56pm On Nov 05, 2016
Many of you here who criticise Soyinka don't have elderly ones at home because if you do, you won't send ill mannered and unguided messages. My problem with this generation on this site is that many lacked proper perception on what a speaker speaks and how to express genuine opinion. A view that was counter to what Donald Trump said and most of you became toothless barking dog who has no owner. I am definitely sure those among you that has condemned Professor Wole Soyinka's view can not even in Hundred (100) generation's time be able to win Noble Laureate nor your family. The UNLETTERED go to school and don't be late because Your TEACHER is WAITING for You. AWON OMO IRANKIRAN
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by MalcoImX: 4:04pm On Nov 05, 2016
@OP:
The Washington Post has contacted more than 420 charities with some ties to the GOP nominee in an effort to find proof of the millions he has said he donated. We've been mostly unsuccessful.
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The charity that Trump has given the most money to over his lifetime appears to be his own: the Donald J. Trump
Foundation. But that charity, too, was not what it seemed.
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The Trump Foundation appeared outwardly to be a typical, if small, philanthropic foundation — set up by a rich man to give his riches away.
In reality, it has been funded largely by other people. Tax records show the Trump Foundation has received $5.5 million from Trump over its life, and nothing since 2008. It received $9.3 million from other people.
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Another unusual feature: One of the foundation’s most consistent causes was Trump himself.
New findings, for instance, show that the Trump Foundation’s largest-ever gift — $264,631 — was used to renovate a fountain outside the windows of Trump’s Plaza Hotel.
Its smallest-ever gift, for $7, was paid to the Boy Scouts in 1989, at a time when it cost $7 to register a new Scout. Trump’s oldest son was 11 at the time. Trump did not respond to a question about whether the money was paid to register him.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boasts-of-his-philanthropy-but-his-giving-falls-short-of-his-words/2016/10/29/b3c03106-9ac7-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html
Re: What Soyinka Does Not Understand About US Green Card by tinsel: 4:09pm On Nov 05, 2016
OP why are you supporting Trump? I know you are free to do so, but why?

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