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Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by yuzedo: 4:50pm On Nov 09, 2016
EVERY M*THERFUCKER and they mammy has an opinion on US Politics and its just concluded elections, and I don't know which is worse; the very indignant class who by virtue of some soon-to-expire B1-B2 privilege, feel entitled to offer their insignificant and unsought opinions, or the "peasants" who will never even come close to 2 Walter Carrington Street, for an opportunity to have their visa application emphatically and legitimately turned down.

Dear Clinton-stans, what if I told you NOTHING would change, and your "fears" are unfounded? Would that temper your angst and indignation??

Okay, let's see:

Immigration Laws? Really, that's your primary concern, right?? Remind me how the BILLIONS in USD that Homeland generates from Tourism and Visa Applications is negligible to their books.

Nuclear War? You REALLY think the American President can utilize "the football" arbitrarily? (If you have to google what the football is, you really shouldn't be as pressed as you are about a more-vested people exercising their democratic franchise).

Any opinion on Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Obama being at war longer than ANY President in American History. Let's not even talk about the hilarious double volte-face between Obama and Hillary after their messy 2008 DNC contest against one another.

What else?

Clinton "deserved" it more? How? By virtue of experience/qualifications? Tell that to Goodluck Jonathan.

I think we Nigerians should be far more ashamed at how concerned we are about who emerges America's Commander-in-Chief, when we cannot name our representatives at the Senate, House of Representatives, Local Government Chairmen or State Assemblies!!

Personally, I eagerly anticipate the pure banter if PRESIDENT Trump plays the vindictive card when he assumes office. Starting from The White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2011, the now President-elect suffered a barrage of taunts from the incumbent suggesting his "dreams were not valid", and the Presidency which Obama is now enjoying THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA was an impossible aspiration for him. The Media and America's fickle celebrities joined the bandwagon, and Trump bore it all with the same equanimity and grace he did Comedy Central's 2011 Roast where he graciously acquiesced his presence and cooperation.

This particular faux pas of the Fifth Estate, especially in famzing who they expected would win by a landslide takes me back to Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power, and how it relates to these elections:

"Keep Your Options Open, Never Commit Unless You Have To

If I had to pick “The One Law of Power,” it would be this. Power is a game of options. The surest way to get someone to do what you want is to arrange things so that it’s their best option, and one they freely (if grudgingly) choose. The obvious corollary is that if you want to prevent yourself from being manipulated by others, you must guard your options from being hemmed in.

Charles Talleyrand, the French statesman whose career spanned, against all odds, several revolutionary governments and the rise and fall of Napoleon, illustrates this principle. While it must have been tempting to choose sides in such tumultuous times, Talleyrand’s singular survival owes to his not doing so:

--- Talleyrand, now elderly, sat by his Paris window, listening to the pealing bells that signaled the riots were over. Turning to an assistant, he said, “Ah, the bells! We’re winning.” “Who’s ‘we,’ mon prince?” the assistant asked. Gesturing for the man to keep quiet, Talleyrand replied, “Not a word! I’ll tell you who we are tomorrow.” He well knew that only fools rush into a situation—that by committing too quickly you lose your maneuverability."

As always, it is an incontrovertible fact that we are a specie of short attention span(s), and all this will blow over as soon as the next news-worthy incident comes along. Will it be a war? A terrorist attack? A celebrity death? A natural disaster? Some transvestite distraction? Or all of the above? Nobody can say for certain. But we can all agree with Lucilla Aurelius' famous assertion that "the mob is fickle, and this will be forgotten in a month."

Till then, it is on and ahead with our intellectual masturbätion.

- Yuzedo writes from Banana Iceland, Ikoyi.

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Elkay3: 4:56pm On Nov 09, 2016
To cut it short, the more things change the more the stay the same.
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by laurenziz6(m): 5:10pm On Nov 09, 2016
Lemme book space just in case
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by SamuelAnyawu(m): 5:21pm On Nov 09, 2016
grin
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Kosy79(f): 5:26pm On Nov 09, 2016
Na una sabi.

Homecoming bash!!!! Homecoming bash!!!!

There will be a homecoming bash for all those returning from America on 26th November. Y'all don't miss out. Come meet that friend that left and never checked on you. That guy that borrowed money from you and ran to the states. That guy that broke your heart and married that white lady for a visa.

Don't worry they are all coming home.

Don't miss the bash.

Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by caprini1: 5:26pm On Nov 09, 2016
yuzedo my personal person......e don tey o....where have u been?
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Nobody: 5:32pm On Nov 09, 2016
Make I quickly mess for fridge. I dey come back com comment
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by yuzedo: 12:49pm On Nov 10, 2016
For those that don't mind reading long analyses. These are the people that use facts, stats and historical antecedence, not "divine revelation" to make predictions:


Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, ‘cause you’ll be saying them for the next four years: “PRESIDENT TRUMP.”

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you’re doing right now. You’re shaking your head wildly – “No, Mike, this won’t happen!” Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts – “77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!” – or logic – “people aren’t going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!” – is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.” We want to – we need to – hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a shit show and it’s hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can’t handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: “Watch out!,” they shouted. “There are people on the sidewalk!”

Well, folks, this isn’t an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen – and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in.

Don’t get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women – check. Abortion should be legal – check. Stronger environmental laws – check. More gun control – check. Legalize marijuana – check. A huge shift has taken place – just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November – who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.
Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:

Midwest Math, or Welcome to Our Rust Belt Brexit. I believe Trump is going to focus much of his attention on the four blue states in the rustbelt of the upper Great Lakes – Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Four traditionally Democratic states – but each of them have elected a Republican governor since 2010 (only Pennsylvania has now finally elected a Democrat). In the Michigan primary in March, more Michiganders came out to vote for the Republicans (1.32 million) that the Democrats (1.19 million). Trump is ahead of Hillary in the latest polls in Pennsylvania and tied with her in Ohio. Tied? How can the race be this close after everything Trump has said and done? Well maybe it’s because he’s said (correctly) that the Clintons’ support of NAFTA helped to destroy the industrial states of the Upper Midwest. Trump is going to hammer Clinton on this and her support of TPP and other trade policies that have royally screwed the people of these four states. When Trump stood in the shadow of a Ford Motor factory during the Michigan primary, he threatened the corporation that if they did indeed go ahead with their planned closure of that factory and move it to Mexico, he would slap a 35% tariff on any Mexican-built cars shipped back to the United States. It was sweet, sweet music to the ears of the working class of Michigan, and when he tossed in his threat to Apple that he would force them to stop making their iPhones in China and build them here in America, well, hearts swooned and Trump walked away with a big victory that should have gone to the governor next-door, John Kasich.

From Green Bay to Pittsburgh, this, my friends, is the middle of England – broken, depressed, struggling, the smokestacks strewn across the countryside with the carcass of what we use to call the Middle Class. Angry, embittered working (and nonworking) people who were lied to by the trickle-down of Reagan and abandoned by Democrats who still try to talk a good line but are really just looking forward to rub one out with a lobbyist from Goldman Sachs who’ll write them nice big check before leaving the room. What happened in the UK with Brexit is going to happen here. Elmer Gantry shows up looking like Boris Johnson and just says whatever shit he can make up to convince the masses that this is their chance! To stick to ALL of them, all who wrecked their American Dream! And now The Outsider, Donald Trump, has arrived to clean house! You don’t have to agree with him! You don’t even have to like him! He is your personal Molotov cocktail to throw right into the center of the bastards who did this to you! SEND A MESSAGE! TRUMP IS YOUR MESSENGER!

And this is where the math comes in. In 2012, Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. Add up the electoral votes cast by Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. It’s 64. All Trump needs to do to win is to carry, as he’s expected to do, the swath of traditional red states from Idaho to Georgia (states that’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton), and then he just needs these four rust belt states. He doesn’t need Florida. He doesn’t need Colorado or Virginia. Just Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And that will put him over the top. This is how it will happen in November.

The Last Stand of the Angry White Man. Our male-dominated, 240-year run of the USA is coming to an end. A woman is about to take over! How did this happen?! On our watch! There were warning signs, but we ignored them. Nixon, the gender traitor, imposing Title IX on us, the rule that said girls in school should get an equal chance at playing sports. Then they let them fly commercial jets. Before we knew it, Beyoncé stormed on the field at this year’s Super Bowl (our game!) with an army of Black Women, fists raised, declaring that our domination was hereby terminated! Oh, the humanity!

That’s a small peek into the mind of the Endangered White Male. There is a sense that the power has slipped out of their hands, that their way of doing things is no longer how things are done. This monster, the “Feminazi,”the thing that as Trump says, “bleeds through her eyes or wherever she bleeds,” has conquered us — and now, after having had to endure eight years of a black man telling us what to do, we’re supposed to just sit back and take eight years of a woman bossing us around? After that it’ll be eight years of the gays in the White House! Then the transgenders! You can see where this is going. By then animals will have been granted human rights and a fuckin’ hamster is going to be running the country. This has to stop!

The Hillary Problem. Can we speak honestly, just among ourselves? And before we do, let me state, I actually like Hillary – a lot – and I think she has been given a bad rap she doesn’t deserve. But her vote for the Iraq War made me promise her that I would never vote for her again. To date, I haven’t broken that promise. For the sake of preventing a proto-fascist from becoming our commander-in-chief, I’m breaking that promise. I sadly believe Clinton will find a way to get us in some kind of military action. She’s a hawk, to the right of Obama. But Trump’s psycho finger will be on The Button, and that is that. Done and done.

Let’s face it: Our biggest problem here isn’t Trump – it’s Hillary. She is hugely unpopular — nearly 70% of all voters think she is untrustworthy and dishonest. She represents the old way of politics, not really believing in anything other than what can get you elected. That’s why she fights against gays getting married one moment, and the next she’s officiating a gay marriage. Young women are among her biggest detractors, which has to hurt considering it’s the sacrifices and the battles that Hillary and other women of her generation endured so that this younger generation would never have to be told by the Barbara Bushes of the world that they should just shut up and go bake some cookies. But the kids don’t like her, and not a day goes by that a millennial doesn’t tell me they aren’t voting for her. No Democrat, and certainly no independent, is waking up on November 8th excited to run out and vote for Hillary the way they did the day Obama became president or when Bernie was on the primary ballot. The enthusiasm just isn’t there. And because this election is going to come down to just one thing — who drags the most people out of the house and gets them to the polls — Trump right now is in the catbird seat.

The Depressed Sanders Vote. Stop fretting about Bernie’s supporters not voting for Clinton – we’re voting for Clinton! The polls already show that more Sanders voters will vote for Hillary this year than the number of Hillary primary voters in ’08 who then voted for Obama. This is not the problem. The fire alarm that should be going off is that while the average Bernie backer will drag him/herself to the polls that day to somewhat reluctantly vote for Hillary, it will be what’s called a “depressed vote” – meaning the voter doesn’t bring five people to vote with her. He doesn’t volunteer 10 hours in the month leading up to the election. She never talks in an excited voice when asked why she’s voting for Hillary. A depressed voter. Because, when you’re young, you have zero tolerance for phonies and BS. Returning to the Clinton/Bush era for them is like suddenly having to pay for music, or using MySpace or carrying around one of those big-ass portable phones. They’re not going to vote for Trump; some will vote third party, but many will just stay home. Hillary Clinton is going to have to do something to give them a reason to support her — and picking a moderate, bland-o, middle of the road old white guy as her running mate is not the kind of edgy move that tells millenials that their vote is important to Hillary. Having two women on the ticket – that was an exciting idea. But then Hillary got scared and has decided to play it safe. This is just one example of how she is killing the youth vote.

The Jesse Ventura Effect. Finally, do not discount the electorate’s ability to be mischievous or underestimate how any millions fancy themselves as closet anarchists once they draw the curtain and are all alone in the voting booth. It’s one of the few places left in society where there are no security cameras, no listening devices, no spouses, no kids, no boss, no cops, there’s not even a friggin’ time limit. You can take as long as you need in there and no one can make you do anything. You can push the button and vote a straight party line, or you can write in Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. There are no rules. And because of that, and the anger that so many have toward a broken political system, millions are going to vote for Trump not because they agree with him, not because they like his bigotry or ego, but just because they can. Just because it will upset the apple cart and make mommy and daddy mad. And in the same way like when you’re standing on the edge of Niagara Falls and your mind wonders for a moment what would that feel like to go over that thing, a lot of people are going to love being in the position of puppetmaster and plunking down for Trump just to see what that might look like. Remember back in the ‘90s when the people of Minnesota elected a professional wrestler as their governor? They didn’t do this because they’re stupid or thought that Jesse Ventura was some sort of statesman or political intellectual. They did so just because they could. Minnesota is one of the smartest states in the country. It is also filled with people who have a dark sense of humor — and voting for Ventura was their version of a good practical joke on a sick political system. This is going to happen again with Trump.

Coming back to the hotel after appearing on Bill Maher’s Republican Convention special this week on HBO, a man stopped me. “Mike,” he said, “we have to vote for Trump. We HAVE to shake things up.” That was it. That was enough for him. To “shake things up.” President Trump would indeed do just that, and a good chunk of the electorate would like to sit in the bleachers and watch that reality show.

(Next week I will post my thoughts on Trump’s Achilles Heel and how I think he can be beat.)

ALSO: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/michael-moores-5-reasons-why-trump-will-win

Yours,
Michael Moore

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by yuzedo: 12:55pm On Nov 10, 2016
caprini1:
yuzedo my personal person......e don tey o....where have u been?
Banana Iceland, bro.... 1 Chief Sweetus Close, Off Mike Adenuga Street, Off Aliko Dangote Road. wink

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by caprini1: 5:08pm On Nov 10, 2016
yuzedo:

Banana Iceland, bro.... 1 Chief Sweetus Close, Off Mike Adenuga Street, Off Aliko Dangote Road. wink
Ok bro.....how is your sweetheart ,Rita Dominic?
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by davide470(m): 7:19pm On Nov 10, 2016
Happy Birthday Oga Yuzedo!

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by yuzedo: 7:42pm On Nov 10, 2016
davide470:
Happy Birthday Oga Yuzedo!
Thank you brethren!!

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Nobody: 7:47pm On Nov 10, 2016
yuzedo:
For those that don't mind reading long analyses. These are the people that use facts, stats and historical antecedence, not "divine revelation" to make predictions:

I can't believe I just read all that, but it was such an insightful read. I've not been much of a follower of international politics, I've been following this thread with the aim of learning than contributing.

Anyways, happy birthday Chief Sweetus Yuzedo oyigiyigi, horseband of Reeta Dumminick, and owner of manshion in Banana Iceland. A proud stan here. wink

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Dreambeat: 7:54pm On Nov 10, 2016
Yuzedo,welcome back.It has been ages.

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 10, 2016
dis 'madman' still dey NL?

mr sweetus aka oyoyo master aka oko (toy) of reeta domeenick

but why d long epistle na?
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by ndcide(m): 8:40pm On Nov 10, 2016
It's been a long while Yuzedo.
Nice to read your post.

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Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by Nobody: 4:41pm On Nov 12, 2016
Stating the obvious
Re: Trump Won. So What? - A Banana Iceland Perspective by SlyIg(f): 6:53pm On Jan 24, 2017
Just checking on you!


yuzedo:
EVERY M*THERFUCKER and they mammy has an opinion on US Politics and its just concluded elections, and I don't know which is worse; the very indignant class who by virtue of some soon-to-expire B1-B2 privilege, feel entitled to offer their insignificant and unsought opinions, or the "peasants" who will never even come close to 2 Walter Carrington Street, for an opportunity to have their visa application emphatically and legitimately turned down.

Dear Clinton-stans, what if I told you NOTHING would change, and your "fears" are unfounded? Would that temper your angst and indignation??

Okay, let's see:

Immigration Laws? Really, that's your primary concern, right?? Remind me how the BILLIONS in USD that Homeland generates from Tourism and Visa Applications is negligible to their books.

Nuclear War? You REALLY think the American President can utilize "the football" arbitrarily? (If you have to google what the football is, you really shouldn't be as pressed as you are about a more-vested people exercising their democratic franchise).

Any opinion on Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Obama being at war longer than ANY President in American History. Let's not even talk about the hilarious double volte-face between Obama and Hillary after their messy 2008 DNC contest against one another.

What else?

Clinton "deserved" it more? How? By virtue of experience/qualifications? Tell that to Goodluck Jonathan.

I think we Nigerians should be far more ashamed at how concerned we are about who emerges America's Commander-in-Chief, when we cannot name our representatives at the Senate, House of Representatives, Local Government Chairmen or State Assemblies!!

Personally, I eagerly anticipate the pure banter if PRESIDENT Trump plays the vindictive card when he assumes office. Starting from The White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2011, the now President-elect suffered a barrage of taunts from the incumbent suggesting his "dreams were not valid", and the Presidency which Obama is now enjoying THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA was an impossible aspiration for him. The Media and America's fickle celebrities joined the bandwagon, and Trump bore it all with the same equanimity and grace he did Comedy Central's 2011 Roast where he graciously acquiesced his presence and cooperation.

This particular faux pas of the Fifth Estate, especially in famzing who they expected would win by a landslide takes me back to Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power, and how it relates to these elections:

"Keep Your Options Open, Never Commit Unless You Have To

If I had to pick “The One Law of Power,” it would be this. Power is a game of options. The surest way to get someone to do what you want is to arrange things so that it’s their best option, and one they freely (if grudgingly) choose. The obvious corollary is that if you want to prevent yourself from being manipulated by others, you must guard your options from being hemmed in.

Charles Talleyrand, the French statesman whose career spanned, against all odds, several revolutionary governments and the rise and fall of Napoleon, illustrates this principle. While it must have been tempting to choose sides in such tumultuous times, Talleyrand’s singular survival owes to his not doing so:

--- Talleyrand, now elderly, sat by his Paris window, listening to the pealing bells that signaled the riots were over. Turning to an assistant, he said, “Ah, the bells! We’re winning.” “Who’s ‘we,’ mon prince?” the assistant asked. Gesturing for the man to keep quiet, Talleyrand replied, “Not a word! I’ll tell you who we are tomorrow.” He well knew that only fools rush into a situation—that by committing too quickly you lose your maneuverability."

As always, it is an incontrovertible fact that we are a specie of short attention span(s), and all this will blow over as soon as the next news-worthy incident comes along. Will it be a war? A terrorist attack? A celebrity death? A natural disaster? Some transvestite distraction? Or all of the above? Nobody can say for certain. But we can all agree with Lucilla Aurelius' famous assertion that "the mob is fickle, and this will be forgotten in a month."

Till then, it is on and ahead with our intellectual masturbätion.

- Yuzedo writes from Banana Iceland, Ikoyi.

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