godunia:
I go buy before December.

mployer:
I am not buying....

kingreign:

What were the criteria used in determining the outcome?
After everything, I still consider Peugeots engineers as 'Lazy engineers' and their cars I feel are lazily engineered. Na only Nigeria and France and Britain (3 awkward counties) that votes Peugeot as car of the year. In more serious and straight thinking countries, they know a Honda civic and even a hyundai Elantra is a seriously engineered and better car by miles.
Small economy cars have shifted from traditional autos to CVT, I guess na now Peugeot dey enter Auto gearbox.

DrMeroThaEmperor:
really? I'd rather buy a Volvo than any Japanese car! Do you know how many Hondas I see on the road with the front wheels AWOL?

Peogeot is as good as Ford, VW, BMW & even Audi.

Those from the Eastern block are not my favourite except Toyota.

judistics:


Av u entered a Peugeot 301? or u saying u know more than the auto journalists? u should be proud that a Nigerian assembled car won the award!! #Changebeginswithme

Kebabs:
I almost thought i'd seen it all! Blood of Sam Loco!!

judistics:


Av u entered a Peugeot 301? or u saying u know more than the auto journalists? u should be proud that a Nigerian assembled car won the award!! #Changebeginswithme

kingreign:

Small economy cars have shifted from traditional autos to CVT, I guess na now Peugeot dey enter Auto gearbox.

ExInferis:


Yeah but CVTs eat up to 20% of the engine's power just to keep variating the gear ratio.

ogtavia:
this 301 is a joke...the 307 even outperforms it..but if you dash me,i will still collect..

kingreign:

What were the criteria used in determining the outcome?
After everything, I still consider Peugeots engineers as 'Lazy engineers' and their cars I feel are lazily engineered. Na only Nigeria and France and Britain (3 awkward counties) that votes Peugeot as car of the year. In more serious and straight thinking countries, they know a Honda civic and even a hyundai Elantra is a seriously engineered and better car by miles.
Small economy cars have shifted from traditional autos to CVT, I guess na now Peugeot dey enter Auto gearbox.

kingreign:

Wrong. Na traditional auto does such.

ExInferis:


Wrong wrong.

CVTs do it. They need the power to sustain the infinite ratios.

Come on, man!

kingreign:


Well, truth is, I've not really taken time to study the CVT thingy cos I don't like them. As for autos, I prefer them to CVT and I've done a lot of studies on them.

ExInferis:


CVTs are expensive, unreliable, and vastly complicated, which i dont believe is a fair trade off for what they do. Though they're not as bad as DSGs, they still suck arse. I prefer autos with tiptronics

kingreign:


Earlier CVTs were unreliable. But recent CVTs are vastly improved. And complex, yes they are. Which modern car isn't complicated?

But my gosh, those CVT's runs fast but are strange in older generation cars.

sultaan:


They are the same, but they only made the 301 for developing countries/people like Nigeria because it will fit our meagre budget, selling it in Europe will destroy their reputation.

It is like that food you can't feed your kids but is fine(for sale) for those poor kids down the street or they might go hungry

ogtavia:
I agree with ur latter comment...but no no no and no...they aren't the same..consider the 301 an upgrade from the 206...the 408 is an upgrade from the 307...they aren't the same...I have driven a 307 but not a 301....but I have been in one....that 301 is a slowpoke...driving experience is more like that of a 206.

Ikenna351:


Peugeot 301 is not an upgrade of Peugeot 206. The 301 that got this award was a reintroduction of Peugeot 301 model, which was first produced decades ago. And Peugeot 408 you referred to was not an upgrade of Peugeot 307. Peugeot 308 replaced 307. The 408 is a new introduced model.

If you want to review a car, you have to be technically specific. To say Peugeot 301 is very slow sounds like a beer parlour opinion. The current Peugeot 301 that got this award has more than one petrol engine, with different hp/powers. So, you are saying the 1.2 liter 3-cylinder engine in 301 must posses same power with 301 with other 4-cylinder engines, including transmissions? So if the Peugeot 301 with the 1.2 liter engine felt slow to you (if that was the one you were driven in), does that make all Peugeot 301 same in terms of power? Besides, people that buy cars with less powerful engines are not interested in power, but low fuel consumption. Specifications of cars indicate people with particular intention or purposes cars are targeted to or designed for. It cut across all car brands.

Same way you cant say Peugeot 206 are slow, when probably you drove one with 1.4 liter TU3 75 hp engine, when there are about 5 petrol engines in 206 you haven't experienced, ranging from 75 hp - 180 hp. Would you say the same thing if you had driven Peugeot 206 with TU5JP, TU5JP4, EW10J4 & EW10J4S? Those that buy 206 with TU3 engines are probably not interested in power, but a 206 that consumes very little amount of fuel, with less powerful engine.

Learn all these things before you review or start criticizing a car. It's all about specificity or specifications. Even this Peugeot 301 that got this car of the year award is the outdated model. The sale of the revised or newer model of the lion is expected to start next year, 2017, by PAN, and also expected to be sold with the Peugeot PureTech engines that was awarded world Engine of the year 2 consecutive times.

Note that I am not trying to stop you from criticizing Peugeot 301 & Peugeot 206 if that's what you want. I only pointed out the positives about those Lions you probably didn't know and might be interested to know, including other people that read this thread. In every subject, there is positive and negative side of it, depending on the one you choose to focus on that gives you joy.

Ikenna, Lion King.

Ikenna351:


[s]Peugeot 301 is not an upgrade of Peugeot 206. The 301 that got this award was a reintroduction of Peugeot 301 model, which was first produced decades ago. And Peugeot 408 you referred to was not an upgrade of Peugeot 307. Peugeot 308 replaced 307. The 408 is a new introduced model.

If you want to review a car, you have to be technically specific. To say Peugeot 301 is very slow sounds like a beer parlour opinion. The current Peugeot 301 that got this award has more than one petrol engine, with different hp/powers. So, you are saying the 1.2 liter 3-cylinder engine in 301 must posses same power with 301 with other 4-cylinder engines, including transmissions? So if the Peugeot 301 with the 1.2 liter engine felt slow to you (if that was the one you were driven in), does that make all Peugeot 301 same in terms of power? Besides, people that buy cars with less powerful engines are not interested in power, but low fuel consumption. Specifications of cars indicate people with particular intention or purposes cars are targeted to or designed for. It cut across all car brands.

Same way you cant say Peugeot 206 are slow, when probably you drove one with 1.4 liter TU3 75 hp engine, when there are about 5 petrol engines in 206 you haven't experienced, ranging from 75 hp - 180 hp. Would you say the same thing if you had driven Peugeot 206 with TU5JP, TU5JP4, EW10J4 & EW10J4S? Those that buy 206 with TU3 engines are probably not interested in power, but a 206 that consumes very little amount of fuel, with less powerful engine.

Learn all these things before you review or start criticizing a car. It's all about specificity or specifications. Even this Peugeot 301 that got this car of the year award is the outdated model. The sale of the revised or newer model of the lion is expected to start next year, 2017, by PAN, and also expected to be sold with the Peugeot PureTech engines that was awarded world Engine of the year 2 consecutive times.

Note that I am not trying to stop you from criticizing Peugeot 301 & Peugeot 206 if that's what you want. I only pointed out the positives about those Lions you probably didn't know and might be interested to know, including other people that read this thread. In every subject, there is positive and negative side of it, depending on the one you choose to focus on that gives you joy.

Ikenna, Lion King.[/s]

kingreign:


Peugeot is a crap vehicle.

QED.